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This thread is about matching actors/extras/stand-ins, etc. with their onscreen characters. To get the ball rolling; I'm trying to figure out who played Brock Starsher/Jabba's Skiff Guard in Return of the Jedi. Wookieepedia states it was an "uncredited extra". While no doubt accurate; not helpful at all. No mention at all on iMDB. I asked around in the Facebook group Royal Guard Autograph Service; but it seems to be a mystery there as well. I'd just like to know who was under that helmet; so I'm calling all sleuths to help figure this out!
 
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I honestly wouldn't even know how to find out who played him. Plus it's kind of funny how his name is Brock Starsher now, was this JUST created? Because even the original release of the action figure was simply just called something like Jabba's Skiff Guard. That's kind of an interesting piece of SW lore, how background characters have been given names and even backstories. Like Walrus Man and how he transitioned into being called Ponda Baba or Hammerhead and how that evolved into Momaw Nadon. I'm fairly sure a lot of this first started due to toys and the trading card game.
 
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I honestly wouldn't even know how to find out who played him. Plus it's kind of funny how his name is Brock Starsher now, was this JUST created? Because even the original release of the action figure was simply just called something like Jabba's Skiff Guard. That's kind of an interesting piece of SW lore, how background characters have been given names and even backstories. Like Walrus Man and how he transitioned into being called Ponda Baba or Hammerhead and how that evolved into Momaw Nadon. I'm fairly sure a lot of this first started due to toys and the trading card game.
I think he was given this name in 2013. So pretty recently in the grand scheme. Hasbro put out a figure in 2014.
 
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I think he was given this name in 2013. So pretty recently in the grand scheme. Hasbro put out a figure in 2014.
I'm not 100% sure really, but I will say the character design is kind of fun...albeit a bit lazy and generic. He's basically just a dude in a jump suit with a funky helmet design. You can totally tell the costume designer just went, "Hey, add some funky tube or something to this plastic kids costume knight helmet and BINGO....funky space man. TUBES ARE SPACIE!"
 
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IIRC, the Weequay "Hunter" skiff guard didn't get a name until after the Disney purchase and thus after the TVC figure's release. That character is now known as Pagetti Rook. Is there any other backgrounder from Ep 1-6 that was named after Disney bought the franchise?
 
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I'm not 100% sure really, but I will say the character design is kind of fun...albeit a bit lazy and generic. He's basically just a dude in a jump suit with a funky helmet design. You can totally tell the costume designer just went, "Hey, add some funky tube or something to this plastic kids costume knight helmet and BINGO....funky space man. TUBES ARE SPACIE!"
If you look closely his mask is a scout trooper kneepad.
 
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If you look closely his mask is a scout trooper kneepad.
I'm not actually sure what it really is, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's something re-purposed. Star Wars did that quite a bit. Some interesting cases would be how Dengar is using a lot of Snowtrooper armor just repainted, how nearly all Rodians dress like Greedo in the OT...I assume just because they didn't want to spend the money on different outfits for them, or how even Bossk and Bo'Shek are basically just different colored X-Wing pilot costumes with a few modifications which (I want to say I heard) were even in and of themselves re-purposed from Dr. Who. Now I don't know this 100%, but I always strongly suspected that parts (especially the head) of IG-88 are liqueur dispensers in the cantina because they LOOK identical. I mean, really, even 4-LOM is just a re-used protocol droid body with a new head. When you really look at it, the OT had a LOT of kitbashed and re-used costumes.
 
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I did read online somewhere recently that the faceplate of the helmet is indeed a Biker Scout knee guard; which makes the whole thing a little more creative and interesting. I for one likely wouldn't have thought "hey, this kneepad would make a pretty cool mask!". The helmet is primarily why I like the character so much. I think the pitch black color really pops in those bright exterior shots (not that you really see it that much or very closely), plus (I think) he is the only Skiff Guard whose entire face and head is completely covered; giving him a pinch of mystery; which further fuels why I so desperately want to know who played him. Is the guy still alive? Did he play anything else? I really want to know!
 
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I did read online somewhere recently that the faceplate of the helmet is indeed a Biker Scout knee guard; which makes the whole thing a little more creative and interesting. I for one likely wouldn't have thought "hey, this kneepad would make a pretty cool mask!". The helmet is primarily why I like the character so much. I think the pitch black color really pops in those bright exterior shots (not that you really see it that much or very closely), plus (I think) he is the only Skiff Guard whose entire face and head is completely covered; giving him a pinch of mystery; which further fuels why I so desperately want to know who played him. Is the guy still alive? Did he play anything else? I really want to know!
Yeah, I think the repurposed part is a cool detail.

As far as his identity, we might want to track down call sheets for Return of the Jedi. Sometimes I'm surprised by who is listed on those. Although obviously he wouldn't be listed as "Brock Starsher." It could still be difficult to figure out who played who if they are all listed as "Skiff guard."
 
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or how even Bossk and Bo'Shek are basically just different colored X-Wing pilot costumes with a few modifications which (I want to say I heard) were even in and of themselves re-purposed from Dr. Who.
Bossk and Boshek's costumes were taken directly from a Dr. Who episode. They weren't repurposed X-Wing Pilot flightsuits. Bossk's flightsuit was actually visible in the Cantina with a black, "fishbowl" helmet. His head is just the Saurin from the Cantina, but I believe the hands and feet were created specifically for Bossk. Star Wars' budget was only $10 million initially, so reusing costumes and masks from other movies/TV shows was a necessity in order to get the film finished.

 
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Now I don't know this 100%, but I always strongly suspected that parts (especially the head) of IG-88 are liqueur dispensers in the cantina because they LOOK identical. I mean, really, even 4-LOM is just a re-used protocol droid body with a new head. When you really look at it, the OT had a LOT of kitbashed and re-used costumes.
I only recently heard this brought up and yes, the head of IG-88 is recycled from the dispensers at the cantina.
 
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IIRC, his head is a combustion chamber from a rolls royce jet airplane engine. they found it in a junk yard.
 
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Yeah, I think the repurposed part is a cool detail.

As far as his identity, we might want to track down call sheets for Return of the Jedi. Sometimes I'm surprised by who is listed on those. Although obviously he wouldn't be listed as "Brock Starsher." It could still be difficult to figure out who played who if they are all listed as "Skiff guard."
I like your train of thought; my friend. I hadn't even thought of call sheets.
 
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Look up Gerald_Home. (Squid head) he was actually there on set. His thread has a lot of great details about Return of the Jedi​.
 
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I like your train of thought; my friend. I hadn't even thought of call sheets.
You also have to keep in mind that all of the interior scenes from the Palace and the Sail Barge were shot in a studio in London. The exterior scenes during the skiff battle, including the exterior of the Barge, were shot in the United States. There are also blue-screen shots of the Skiffs, which would have been shot in a studio and were possibly pick ups, so they would have been completed very late in production.

Most likely the Skiff Guard you are looking for would have been played by a stuntman for the exterior action shots and a completely different person in the blue screen shots (possibly just a random crew member). Keeping in mind that weeks or months would have passed between the interior and exterior shots.
 
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You also have to keep in mind that all of the interior scenes from the Palace and the Sail Barge were shot in a studio in London. The exterior scenes during the skiff battle, including the exterior of the Barge, were shot in the United States. There are also blue-screen shots of the Skiffs, which would have been shot in a studio and were possibly pick ups, so they would have been completed very late in production.

Most likely the Skiff Guard you are looking for would have been played by a stuntman for the exterior action shots and a completely different person in the blue screen shots (possibly just a random crew member). Keeping in mind that weeks or months would have passed between the interior and exterior shots.
Considering you're obviously more adept and thoughtful in this undertaking than I am; may I hereby humbly nominate you to solve this mystery for me! :grin:
 
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Considering you're obviously more adept and thoughtful in this undertaking than I am; may I hereby humbly nominate you to solve this mystery for me! :grin:
Well, here is a list of known stunt performers for ROTJ, some credited, some uncredited:
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0086190/fullcredits/stunts

Peter Diamond played the Weequay Skiff Master (the one wearing the quilted, tan shirt on the Prisoner Skiff). Dirk Yohan Beer (because D-i-c-key Beer is censored on this site for some reason) played Barada on the Second Skiff. Corey Dee Williams (Billy Dee Williams' son) played the Klaatu on the Sail Barge (the one we are getting as a TVC figure this year). Those are the only ones I know right off the top of my head.

So that just leaves:
Bob Anderson
Marc Boyle
Sandi Gross (Princess Leia's stunt double, so unlikely)
Frank Henson
Billy Horrigan
Julius LeFlore
Colin Skeaping
Paul Weston
Daniel Zormeier
Lightning Bear
Michael Cassidy
Tracey Eddon
Ted Grossman
Larry Holt
Alf Joint
Glenn Randall Jr.
Malcolm Weaver
Bob Yerkes
Vic Armstrong
Martin Klebba
Kiran Shah
Peter Borroughs
Monty Jordan
Margarita Farrell (unlikely since she was Wicket's stunt double)

I'm listing all of the names from the IMDB page because it increases the chances that one of these stunt performers might find this thread if they are Googling their own name someday.

So, that's a list to start with; but I doubt it's a comprehensive list of all of the stunt performers from a film like ROTJ.
 
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