- Jul 2, 2011
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Hey Guys, from a newbie...what are the tells that this is a fake? Thanks!
Thanks for the info. I looked at my stormtroopers and none have the leg angle you spoke of (these are my childhood toys) I guess the less obvious (angle of projection at joint..not sure what you mean) would be some of thie things I will have to pick up on. It is good to know the experienced collectors here are always on the watch for this kind of thing. Friends over at SWCC do the same and it helps guys like me out a great deal. Thanks to you all!!! RoloTo me the most telling things are: Right leg at the hip (angle of projection at joint and all the repro pics seem to have this "look", legs coming to a point versus wider stance, flashing at the lower part of the blaster mag, COO is the same as the repros. Less telling, but red flags came up with location and condition of figure, while not impossible for a mideast location to have a dead mint fig, VERY uncommon. I guess from studying the fakes it "read" the same to me, probably the way if you know looking at a MOC repro is fake in 2 seconds. I'm sure there are other signs, and most are intuitive. My guess is that these are nearly impossible to tell for a newbie without a reference photo or long term experience. It does have a realistic COO and looks "right," but too good.
The problem is that super-white, minty Stormtroopers can usually sell for about $30 or so. Some unsuspecting person may end up paying that much for a piece of repro junk. That's the problem with these things.I don't get it, so repro figures are being made and sold out of Haifa or is the location a scam?
No I know repro's are wrong to be sold as real, but I mean.. why Haifa? Israel getting in the Bootleg game now?The problem is that super-white, minty Stormtroopers can usually sell for about $30 or so. Some unsuspecting person may end up paying that much for a piece of repro junk. That's the problem with these things.
I wish I could "Like" this a million times over. Yes the world is chocked full of stupid people that enable repro makers and scammers.Yet another example of how idiots who want repro 'fillers' in their collections enable the repro market that is ruining the hobby. If you're not taking a hard line against any form of vintage reproduction, you are enabling it. Unfortunately for the hobby, the world is full of stupid people who don't get it.
EXACTLY! If you are patient you can get the real deal items for a good price. Granted repros are cheaper, but there is a reason for it. They are not real. Like I said on another post the person who buys the repro may want it for his own personal self. Now if something were to happen to the person, sad but true, the repro will become part of the estate and no matter how it is sold the new seller and future buyer has no idea it is a fake buying it for the real thing. They may now over pay or possibly try to sell it and get burned by somebody who finds it as fake. It just opens the door for someone who IS knowingly selling fakes to pass them off easier as more doubt gets added to the legitimacy of what is real and fake. The line over time will start to blur.Very true, but and a big old nasty but, regardless of the person's actual IQ, that person's "collecting IQ" (if there is such a thing) is pretty low. The person buying repros may not being doing harm to his own collection, but once that repro hits the market again...who knows what could happen. It's the big picture that's important.
Thanks to the internet with places like here and eBay, it is no longer all that difficult to find any production item especially legit weapons. In this day and age it's just lazy to settle for repros. I usually think of impatience when I think of the need for repros.
Just because you don't agree on someone else's buying habits doesn't make the other person less intelligent.
or this one? Same seller, I will remove the links if they are legit, but they seem like the ones described..SO is this one too? I am trying to learn how to spot these..
VINTAGE 1977 KENNER MINT STORMTROOPER ON DROIDS 12 BACK CARD EXCLUSIVE CUSTOM | eBay
or this one? Same seller, I will remove the links if they are legit, but they seem like the ones described..
VINTAGE 1977 KENNER MINT STORMTROOPER ON 12 BACK TOLTOYS AUSTRALIAN CARD COOL!! | eBay
Sorry to hear that, what a bummer! This is a prime example of how even "honest reproductions" will continue to hurt the hobby in the long run.Ugh, I wish I had seen these before buying from this *****. He had a nice carded stormtrooper, where i knew it was a recard, it was advertised as being a legit figure. I bought it with the intent to open it. Found out immediately that the blaster was fake, called him out on it, but I figured it was a decent deal to hang on to the figure anyhow.
Little did I know, now I am really pissed and beyond the claim period.
Guess I am still in the hunt for a nice white stormtrooper.
Sadly there are - and these are very new so be wary. In hand they'd be easy to spot because they're made of resin and unarticulated but in a job lot photo taken at a distance very very easy to be conned byare there other faked figures besides stormtrooper out there? i always thought it was only mocs and accessories that were faked