Technically it's Anakins saber... I feel like they're doing a 'one ring' thing here and giving it a life of its own. "it wants to be found" and all that.One thing I hope sees some further development or explanation is how Maz got Luke's lightsaber
Plus the fact that the Skywalker haven't stopped a damn thing yet.This. Not a fan of the whole skywalkers are the only ones who can stop evil angle. In sports, bloodlines rarely matter and more often than not the kid isn't half the basketball/football player that there dad was.
I really don't like this development - screams of appeals for legitimacy and merchandising options over continuing the story. Lucas showed that the lightsabers were just tools, especially through the prequels. The only significance of Anakin's lightsaber before was symbolic, as Luke lost it along with the fantasy of who his father was. No in-universe value to the saber itself beyond what the character ascribed to it.Technically it's Anakins saber... I feel like they're doing a 'one ring' thing here and giving it a life of its own. "it wants to be found" and all that.
I agree. I don't need it to be something magical like Excalibur.I don't really care for the lightsaber being "special". I could get behind it being treated as a holy relic, especially after the Emperor's campaign to find and destroy every last vestige of the jedi. It was special to Luke because it belonged to his father and it's special to Rey for what it represents. No need for it to be magic or whatever.
it didn't literally call out to her....I don't think anything further will be explained about Anakin's lightsaber. The whole thing was just woefully written to begin with anyhow. How it ended up with Miss Cantina after falling into Bespin (a gas giant), or how it can "call" to someone... ...is so terribly constructed, it beggars belief.
This entire effort at story has been just slapped together like a flimsy partition wall thrown up by a bunch of cowboy builders.
if it literally called out to her the Lightsaber would have said "HEY REY I NEED YOU TO PICK ME UP"that was the word JJ used -- "and now it calls to you" -- are you saying JJ is wrong?
TFA said the saber "Called" to her -- Cellblock asks "How?" -- VF says "it didn't".
(is this proof , that VF didn't see TFA?)
it didn't literally call out to her....
So true, I didn't really care for the wands in Harry Potter suddenly gaining loyalty for their proper wielders either.I agree with the lightsaber thing. it had a meaning for Luke because it came from his father, whom he never knew. I don't think a lightsaber needs to call to someone or choose it's owner in anyway. Obi-Wan and Anaking lost their lightsabers in AOTC and got new ones to use in the arena, then rebuilt theirs afterwards.
Fair enough.That story is likely going to be left to the comic books and novels. It's a small detail that doesn't seem worth spending valuable screen time on, especially if the answer is reduced to a throwaway line.
That's what I'm leaning towards too re: the Skywalker name. It's going to basically be the new name for "Jedi"I'm fine with them doing what they want with Rey's parents, but I'd prefer that they don't change what we learned in TLJ.
I think that the title does refer to her, but I don't think she will be a Skywalker by blood. More like Luke will give her that name and it'll be used like Jedi was before they went extinct.
You're probably correct.That story is likely going to be left to the comic books and novels. It's a small detail that doesn't seem worth spending valuable screen time on, especially if the answer is reduced to a throwaway line.
I don't like the idea of a "One Lightsaber" at all. I interpret the lightsaber's call to Rey, much like a certain career might be a person's calling.that was the word JJ used -- "and now it calls to you" -- are you saying JJ is wrong?
To me, that would be a much more interesting way of bringing clones into the storytelling than the PT did.Some people seem to think Rey is and isn't a Skywalker, per se, and it ties back to Maz and the lightsaber. I've heard (not sure about the reliability of it) that originally the sequels conceptually opened up with Luke's severed hand clutching the Anakin saber. Some people seem to think the reason Rey is so naturally gifted, the reason why she had the vision of Bespin when she touched the saber, is because she was a test tube baby created from the DNA of the severed hand of Luke Skywalker. So her not having parents adds up, she's a science project. But at the same time, she sort of IS a Skywalker. Also sort of mirroring Anakin's creation.
I agree. I could go with that. It's sort of like getting our cake and eating it too. Best of both worlds. Rey does come from nobody, there are no parents, literally, but it also makes her...in a way...a Skywalker too. "From a certain point of view." Well if this theory be true. That was the people that don't want her to be the daughter of Luke win...and the people that do want her to be a Skywalker also win. In a manner of speaking. Plus it would explain away the Mary Sue thing. I was never opposed to how "good" she was with little to no training...because I always assumed it would be explained. Now granted if it's not, then I'll hate it and she indeed is a Mary Sue. But I just assume there will be an explanation for why she's so naturally skilled and as long as that happens, I like the character of Rey.To me, that would be a much more interesting way of bringing clones into the storytelling than the PT did.
I do believe they're going to have to have a person be a Skywalker in this movie based on the title. If it was going to be the name of some new order, there would have to be a "the" before it, like Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith. I don't think anyone would sign off on a grammatical snafu just to maintain an aura of mystery for 8 months. I mean, this name has to stick to the movie forever... long after the sting of whatever grand reveal it is wears off.
I was intrigued, myself, by the trailer for 'The Last Jedi'. It promised a very different film than the one we ended up getting.The trailer has me interested in all these questions etc and that is something I would not have said 3 weeks ago. This trailer felt like the TFA trailer which had a sense of wonder and magic.
TLJ on the other hand...blunder and tragic.
Plaguis would have been cool for nerds like us but would have been meaningless to both general audiences and to Rey - like the Khan thing in Into Darkness. It would have absolutely dictated the need for 20 minutes of backstory exposition which would have brought things to a screeching halt. I was a proponent for Snoke being Plagueis but in this instance I was glad to be wrong.I was glad Snoke was Snoke, a new character, and not Plagueis or something dumb like that).
Exactly. TLJ had good trailers and the film ended up a **** show.Indeed. After the initial exceitement I'm going all "Fool me once...."
I think their main worry was that he'd over shadow Rey, no matter what he did, because she's as empty as used baked bean can.If they bring back Luke it would be the worst mistake since they killed Luke, which was the worst mistake since they wrote him out of TFA...
What boggles my mind still is that they wrote Luke out of TFA in such a lazy way simply because they couldn’t figure out how to write him into the story. The problem was “Luke was too powerful” and every time he showed up “he solved the problem easily” and the new characters couldn’t shine. It just screamed of lazy writing. You couldn’t figure out how to write Luke? Really? There’s what, like 40 post rotj books where authors figured out how to write Luke. Superman is arguably one of the most powerful characters in comics and writers have been figuring out how to write him for how many decades???
Given the series established pattern of lazy writing and unoriginal ideas...I’m not expecting anything new.