The "Official" Vinyl Cape Jawa and DT Saber Discussion Thread

[Scientwist]

Hello,
Won't bother posting any further messages on this board as it's a waste of time.

 

[Scouse_Vader]

Hi, this is my first post on this thread. Long story short; I've got a vinyl jawa but long lost the gun. I bought one from a shop in the US. I'd sent my vinyl Jawa off to be graded and both figure and cape pass muster. The gun is the problem. It's a real early gun, just not early enough for the vinyl jawa.

So after all that my question is does anyone know where I can but a smooth blaster or normal bump version to complete the grading?

 

[porkinsred6]

You can try the classifieds here but you will have a better chance on the star wars facebook groups

 

[Jawa1977]

Hello I just find this Jawa can you light me up about this one I am new here Can you help me and let me know what you think? Its original? And if it is what will be its value?? Thanks

 

[gerrit]

The jawa is real , unfortunatly the vinyl cape , cardback and blister are fake :'(

 

[Jawa1977]

Can you help What will be its Value like this ? And what will you do ? Sent it to AFA for grading will add value or just sell it like this? Really appreciate your help thanks gerrit

 

[gerrit]

The value to a vintage collector will be about 5 tot 8 dollars for the jawa. The cape and blister card are modern reproductions so basically worthless and sending Them tot AFA is nog going tot improve the value . Selling reproductions is a big no-no in the star wars collecting community so my advice is if you like it keep it and enjoy it if you don't return it to the seller and try to get your money back.

 

[Jawa1977]

I am going to Keep it like I say I find this one for $10 so like I dont know Nothing about this thats why I was Looking for Info about it, Thank you gerrit for all your Help

 

[miscus555]

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the two first picture of coo is legit coo to vinyl jawa?

i was looking to buy a VCjawa that has the copyright pictured in example #2. Is it legit because I heard a VCJ could come with both copyrights? Thanks

 

[porkinsred6]

Yes first 2 examples in that picture are both OK coos. The graphic is wrong when it says NOPE. Any Family I coo is fine

Should be

CORRECT
CORRECT
NOPE
NOPE

 

[miscus555]

Thanks bud!

 

[Episode0]

Great info thank you

 

[The_Principal]

Anyone ever straighten the typical bent tip of a DT saber by dipping it in boiling water for a short amount of time?


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[comicalUser]

The general consensus is that you do not mess with the saber — at all. Very brittle.

 

[The_Principal]

The general consensus is that you do not mess with the saber — at all. Very brittle.

Agreed... I figured it was worth asking; I wouldn’t try such a thing.


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[Rock]

I have wanted a vinyl cape jawa for as long as I can remember but I never pulled the trigger and now the prices are so far out there I don't think I will ever be able to afford one. Do you think they will ever come down or will they just keep on rising in price?

 

[aaronthebanker]

I have wanted a vinyl cape jawa for as long as I can remember but I never pulled the trigger and now the prices are so far out there I don't think I will ever be able to afford one. Do you think they will ever come down or will they just keep on rising in price?

I don't have one either and I would expect a "deal" a couple years down the road is more than likely going to be the same as the upper range prices we see today if I am lucky. I have to see if my disposable income at sometime outpaces the rising cost of a VC Jawa and at that time I have to decide if the available prices are acceptable.

I think Collectibles that are widely known are similar to Blue Chip stocks. They are well established. the value in the long term always goes up. There can be significant swings in the short term affected by everything from the overall economy to how the fandom reacts to missteps by Disney.

Disney could somehow knock it out of the park as far as reigniting fan interest with episode IX and thousands of people who sold or slowed down their collecting may return overnight driving prices to nearly double or the opposite could happen (though similar to gas prices, once a higher price is established it takes awhile for "buy it now" sale prices or brick and mortar to reflect that).

That is all short timeframe stuff though, in the long run, lets say in the timeframe of 5-10 years from now its unlikely to see Vintage Star Wars hold a lower price than today (barring the sudden implosion of Western Civilization or something like that in which case everything goes back to zero and if we are lucky or unlucky enough to survive we have other concerns)

 

[Rock]

Good points. I kick myself for not buying one years ago when the prices were more in my range. Now this figure is becoming out of reach for me. I also fear that as years go by someone is going to figure out how to make a cape as good as the original and then AFA will have a brand new problem on their hands.

 

[Hanslanda]

What is considered fair value for an Afa 85 vinyl cape jawa?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/163491252396

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-...h=item23aebf58ea:g:r54AAOSwFZVbdHU7:rk:2:pf:0

Here is an afa 85 and an afa 90. Both have discoloration on the cape but the 85 is priced a bit higher.

 

[Rock]

I am after a loose one in an AFA case. A carded one is crazy expensive!

 

[Hanslanda]

I am after a loose one in an AFA case. A carded one is crazy expensive!

How much do you think the ones I just posted are worth? Considering making an offer.

 

[Rock]

I really have no idea. The prices on anything carded is out of control in my opinion. I believe that in time these bubbles will either fall off or dissolve away. Carded collecting is such a fragile game. All of the things we like to collect are only worth what someone will pay. These are toys not gold.

 

[Hanslanda]

I really have no idea. The prices on anything carded is out of control in my opinion. I believe that in time these bubbles will either fall off or dissolve away. Carded collecting is such a fragile game. All of the things we like to collect are only worth what someone will pay. These are toys not gold.

Well put and something to consider for sure.

 

[Rock]

I am very curious as to why there are so many AFA 85 vinyl cape jawa's on eBay at almost any given time? Something just doesn't seem right. Didn't kids play with these figures? I am in the market to finally buy one but I think I would rather have one that is a lower grade that actually looks played with. My untrusting mind tells me that possibly people have finally cracked the code into making a complete fake of a cape. AFA just seems to be getting a lot of 85's lately. Maybe I am way off base?

 

[aaronthebanker]

I am very curious as to why there are so many AFA 85 vinyl cape jawa's on eBay at almost any given time? Something just doesn't seem right. Didn't kids play with these figures? I am in the market to finally buy one but I think I would rather have one that is a lower grade that actually looks played with. My untrusting mind tells me that possibly people have finally cracked the code into making a complete fake of a cape. AFA just seems to be getting a lot of 85's lately. Maybe I am way off base?

Might be the sellers are pricing themselves out so they just stick around and accumulate as they continue to wait for another overly motivated buyer.

 

[Cyclone]

Which of these is the VC Jawa?

As a kid I had several Jawas. One of which had the Vinyl Cape. As I played with these Jawas, I removed the cloaks and cape and put them back on a number of times. So I have lost track of which of these Jawas was the orignal VC and which were ones I came with the cloth cloaks. I know that we are supposed to be able to tell looking at the eyes and the bandolier, but I'm having a hard time nailing down which one he might be. So after years of wondering, I figured I'd put their pic up here and see if we can figure it out.

and back

 

[gerrit]

As a kid I had several Jawas. One of which had the Vinyl Cape. As I played with these Jawas, I removed the cloaks and cape and put them back on a number of times. So I have lost track of which of these Jawas was the orignal VC and which were ones I came with the cloth cloaks. I know that we are supposed to be able to tell looking at the eyes and the bandolier, but I'm having a hard time nailing down which one he might be. So after years of wondering, I figured I'd put their pic up here and see if we can figure it out.


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The second from the left and the one on the far right are the figures that are usually combined with the vinyl cape.

 

[Cyclone]

Thank you. That would be funny if I had two VC jawas without capes. Double my torment.

While my parents bought me my first jawa (The VC), the other jawas I likely acquired by trading with neighborhood kids or may have received as a duplicate gift later. I always wanted to army build Jawas and Stormtroopers as a kid. Other kids would gladly trade for hotwheels or other stuff. It would be funny if I got a VC Jawa from one of them without its cape and then picked up another cape somewhere down the road.

 

[WampasGottaEat2]

The second from the left and the one on the far right are the figures that are usually combined with the vinyl cape.

Is it the detail in the bandolier? I sort of remember reading something about that a long time ago

 

[Cyclone]

I had been going by details listed in this page.

http://web.ncf.ca/cn333/vcjawa.htm

I was focusing on the Bandolier and the Jawa Eyes. But with two of them looking just like each other, I was confused. I was hoping that one Jawa would stand out from the other three. Instead I have two pairs of look-a-likes.

 

[gerrit]

Is it the detail in the bandolier? I sort of remember reading something about that a long time ago

The page Cyclone pointed out explains it best, it's a combination of the eyes the bandolier and the coo. Another thing to look for is the hands, the thumbs have tiny bumps on the end.

 

[Cyclone]

Sounds like its time to get out the Magnifying glass.

 

[WampasGottaEat2]

The page Cyclone pointed out explains it best, it's a combination of the eyes the bandolier and the coo. Another thing to look for is the hands, the thumbs have tiny bumps on the end.

Cool points. Yes I can see the bandolier difference in the second from the left and the one on the far right compared to the other two.

 

[Killerbee]

Can anyone who has a loose Luke DT saber tell me how long (in mm would be nice) the inner filament is?
I sold one and he's getting mixed messages on length (yes, you can giggle if you want).
The one I sold seems to be between 31 and 32 mm long..

 

[porkinsred6]

35 is the full length

 

[Waggy]

You can try the classifieds here but you will have a better chance on the star wars facebook groups

I will second that, an amazing group of people with plenty of support.

 

[Winnipeg Jawa]

Good Day All:

I picked a lot of figures from an online ad and had a Jawa figure come with it - no cape. He had these from his childhood as far as I can tell - he just threw this figure in with the rest of the lot.

In checking out the conditions for a legit VC Jawa figure, it seems to me this might be one (sans cape).

What tipped me off was:
1) Larger painted eyes
2) COO seems to be offset as per the Rebel Scum posted images
3) Bandolier middle pouch is thinner

Would you fine folks be able to take a look and advise if this is a real original VC Jawa figure or just a normal Jawa early figure?

I accidentally posted this in the wrong forum spot, but the folks there were kind enough to say that this figure could have come from a VC Jawa, but the figure with these tell tale signs was also used for the cloth cape version. So it would seem it really comes down to the cape - of which I am sure there are no authentic stand alone capes out there.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Pop-Up Saber]

Hi All,
So from research here and online, my understanding is that genuine VC Jawas (or early large hood Jawas) have the following features in common:

Torso: Large/narrow set eyes, and bandolier pouches with a thinner middle section as in the image below:


COO: "G.M.F.G.I"/Ver.1 COO text shifted higher up on the leg towards the torso as below (Bad angle, sorry. Not my pics):


Hands: I couldn't find any good images of the "bump/tip" on the thumb in any archives, but did find some in an Ebay auction.:


Is this correct? I just wanted to add some clear images for those who aren't sure what to look for...

 

[Lt__Brenn_Tantor]

Hi All,
So from research here and online, my understanding is that genuine VC Jawas (or early large hood Jawas) have the following features in common:

Torso: Large/narrow set eyes, and bandolier pouches with a thinner middle section as in the image below:
View attachment 374360

COO: "G.M.F.G.I"/Ver.1 COO text shifted higher up on the leg towards the torso as below (Bad angle, sorry. Not my pics):
View attachment 374361

Hands: I couldn't find any good images of the "bump/tip" on the thumb in any archives, but did find some in an Ebay auction.:
View attachment 374362View attachment 374363

Is this correct? I just wanted to add some clear images for those who aren't sure what to look for...

Vinyl Caped Jawa Action Figure

 

[Pop-Up Saber]

Vinyl Caped Jawa Action Figure

Thanks. I've been to that site, but the "thumb" pic was always hard for me to make out, as it's pretty dark and grainy.



Compared to the one I posted earlier.