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As a fan who's been openly critical of Star Wars and its levels of blatant commercialism...even I'm like "NOPE! I need one...NOW!" Here's the thing! When you make merch to promote your material, I get it. But when you make material to promote your merch, it's obnoxious. Baby Yoda serves a purpose in the story, he's crucial to it. Integral! So yeah, I'm so gonna buy him!
 
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Is it bad that I want to see baby Yoda killed by the remnants of the Empire and then have the Mandalorian go all John Wick on them.

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It's bad isn't it.

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It'd be great though. 😄

Sam Peckinpah's 'The Mandalorian'.

I'd say Werner Herzog would be up for it.
 
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Besides The Mandalorian...check out episode 3, The Midas Touch, on Disney Imagineering Show...they have a nice little section on Star Tours from 1987 with quite a lot of rare behind the scenes footage. Just an FYI.
 
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Is it bad that I want to see baby Yoda killed by the remnants of the Empire and then have the Mandalorian go all John Wick on them.

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It's bad isn't it.

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Oh man that's dark! LMFAO! I'm pretty sure the internet would BREAK if the show went full on Game of Thrones on Baby Yoda. =P

But no two ways about it, absolutely the Mando would LOSE HIS MIND and go on a Baba Yaga murder spree.
 
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As a fan who's been openly critical of Star Wars and its levels of blatant commercialism...even I'm like "NOPE! I need one...NOW!" Here's the thing! When you make merch to promote your material, I get it. But when you make material to promote your merch, it's obnoxious. Baby Yoda serves a purpose in the story, he's crucial to it. Integral! So yeah, I'm so gonna buy him!
It's the kind of ground-level hype that's almost unheard of these days, where everything is pre-marketed in advance and the merchandise has been sitting around collecting dust long before anyone had a reason to care. It's actually kind of refreshing to see.

I'd almost say that it feels a bit like 1977 all over again if the hype wasn't focused around just one character. I just hope that it doesn't burn itself out and create a backlash by the time the toys actually arrive.
 
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It's the kind of ground-level hype that's almost unheard of these days, where everything is pre-marketed in advance and the merchandise has been sitting around collecting dust long before anyone had a reason to care. It's actually kind of refreshing to see.

I'd almost say that it feels a bit like 1977 all over again if the hype wasn't focused around just one character. I just hope that it doesn't burn itself out and create a backlash by the time the toys actually arrive.
Well said. The thing is, the material should create the desire to want merch, not the vice versa. A great example is the first blockbuster Batman franchise. Most seemed to love Batman 1989 at the time, albeit nitpicks, but it was hailed as the summer of Batman. In fact, fun trivia fact, Time Square in New York kept the Batman logo billboard up there for way longer than anything else because, ironically, crime did strangely seem to be reduced. It was almost like a real-world bat signal. I find that pretty awesome. But when you look at what came of that franchise, quite literally the story didn't even come to matter by the end. It was literally all about promoting toys. But what happened? How many toys for Batman and Robin or even Batman Forever really sold? Not....that...much. What Schumacher forgot was that a good story will sell your merch, not a commercial. And that seems the ideology with Baby Yoda. Sure, he'll sell, sell, sell. But he has a point and product wasn't there for Christmas goal. He wasn't, say, Porgs. He has point and purpose. When you create a character that COULD be merchandised before the actual merchandising...you can create something special. Not something superficial that no one wants because everyone sees through the greed.
 
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Is it bad that I want to see baby Yoda killed by the remnants of the Empire and then have the Mandalorian go all John Wick on them.

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It's bad isn't it.

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Doesn't he have to die/be killed?
There's no mention of him in the Disney Trilogy. He's obviously force sensitive and would become a Jedi at some point. But we are told to believe that Luke is the Last Jedi.

So baby Yoda has to die right?

Quite frankly, I'll be mad if he doesn't.
 
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Doesn't he have to die/be killed?
There's no mention of him in the Disney Trilogy. He's obviously force sensitive and would become a Jedi at some point. But we are told to believe that Luke is the Last Jedi.

So baby Yoda has to die right?

Quite frankly, I'll be mad if he doesn't.
What?

Why does he automatically have to become a Jedi? Why does he need to die?

Ahsoka lives and so does Ezra.
 
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Yeah, just like when Ahsoka died at the end of TCW, and like how Ezra died at the end of Rebels.
I sense sarcasm here. But it's lost on me because I didn't watch those shows and didn't know they lived into the years of the Disney Trilogy.
Heck I've never even heard of this Ezra character.
 
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What?

Why does he automatically have to become a Jedi? Why does he need to die?

Ahsoka lives and so does Ezra.
Because I'm tired of all these new stories that are plopped into the canon timeline that are totally unsupported by other stories in the canon timeline.

We have a force sensitive Yoda species character that isn't mentioned by Yoda or any other force sensitives later in the timeline.
We have Finn and Poe surprised Troopers fly when they've been flying since the Clone Wars.
We have Rey who thought Luke was simply a myth even though he was prominent in the same universe just 30 years prior.

Its all just discombobulated and disconnected. It makes no sense.

In order for those above examples to properly fit in to the Disney canon then:
1) The Yoda baby has to die.
2) Finn (who was a stormtrooper btw) has to NOT be surprised troopers can "fly."
3) Rey can't be so surprised Luke was real. That's like our generation not knowing JFK was assassinated.

At least Rogue One attempted to get it right by killing off all the heroes that stole the plans to the Death Star.

And for all the ST lovers that love to defend it by tearing down the OT and PT, yes I'm quite aware that the PT is very guilty of this too.
Why don't Chewie and Yoda talk of each other?
Why doesn't Ben remember R2?
Why does Leia remember her mother?

I get it, the Star Wars movies I do like are guilty too. But let's face it, despite their flaws they're just more enjoyable.
 
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Doesn't he have to die/be killed?
There's no mention of him in the Disney Trilogy. He's obviously force sensitive and would become a Jedi at some point. But we are told to believe that Luke is the Last Jedi.

So baby Yoda has to die right?

Quite frankly, I'll be mad if he doesn't.
Well, I was only joking when I said that he should die. It's absolutely not going to happen in a Star Wars show.

But, in an alternative universe where it does, it would act as a very real motivator for the Mandalorian to go on a one man mission to kill every remnant of the Empire that he possibly can.

I actually thought the rest of the series, from Ep. 3 onwards, was going to play out following the Mandalorian as he tries to track down Werner Herzog after the Imperials skipped the planet with Kid Yoda. That would have given this first series an actual arc to follow. But, instead the Mando gets the kid and escapes himself and Ep. 4 was just a pretty pointless one off, which I hope is not an indicator of where this show is going.

One thing is for sure, however. Kids (even cute alien ones) can drag a show down, if the lead character is tethered to them for too long. So, at some point, Kid Yoda has got to go.
 
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I don't think Baby Yoda HAS to die at all, nor do I think he contradicts the lore. Firstly, when would he even be ready to be trained as a a Jedi padawan? 200? Just because the purge happened doesn't mean force sensitives weren't born post those events, it just means they weren't trained. And while lore is ambiguous on Yoda's species, one thing that seems known is their species is always, inherently, force sensitive. I saw someone else mention this, but I think the Clone Wars ruined it, that being that his species are Whills. Would make sense, you know, if the Clone Wars didn't actually show Whills as apparently Harlequins or some BS. I still don't get why it or Rebels are so beloved, but to each their own. But point is, Baby Yoda does not remotely HAVE to die. Heck by the time he'd even become a Jedi, if at all, everyone would be LONG dead. If you're going to take the title of The Last Jedi out on something, don't look at Baby Yoda, look at Ruin Johnson's broom kid. Clearly "Last Jedi" was a hyperbole title, not a literal. If you missed that, I have nothing else to say to you other than to also remember to look both ways before you cross the street.

I do agree that Baby Yoda's got to go, eventually. It works for a time, but not the whole time. I don't think he should be in season 2. But this doesn't translate into him having to DIE. Just have him be adopted. Basically have a powerful "Don't go" scene from a dog/pet movie...where you give them away to live a safer happier and more free life...but almost instantly are sad they're gone. I think that will be far MORE emotional than Baby Yoda just dying. His going is far more emotional as in the end, it's kind of happy, just lonely. It's about letting go of something you love and while it may hurt, it's the right thing to do for both to grow and evolve on their own. The child dying is just messed up, not poignant. That won't happen. See the point of Baby Yoda, really, is that he's breaking the Mando's cold and harsh demeanor down. That closed off and walled exterior is diminishing. He does care about things, he's just prior not been able to show it well. Showing it doesn't really make him a good bounty hunter. Who wants to hire the hunter with feelings? Through the presence of this child we get to learn who the character of the Mandalorian really is. That is the genius of Baby Yodas creation. I don't know how many here have children, I personally do not, but I did play step-dad once. And when finally, sadly, his mother and I parted...it meant I too had to part with him in the end. It broke my heart, he was only three. But I knew, we learned a lot from each other. That is how Baby Yoda should end for just having known each other. Sad...but also...happy in the end. So to speak.
 
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Because I'm tired of all these new stories that are plopped into the canon timeline that are totally unsupported by other stories in the canon timeline.

We have a force sensitive Yoda species character that isn't mentioned by Yoda or any other force sensitives later in the timeline.
We have Finn and Poe surprised Troopers fly when they've been flying since the Clone Wars.
We have Rey who thought Luke was simply a myth even though he was prominent in the same universe just 30 years prior.

Its all just discombobulated and disconnected. It makes no sense.

In order for those above examples to properly fit in to the Disney canon then:
1) The Yoda baby has to die.
2) Finn (who was a stormtrooper btw) has to NOT be surprised troopers can "fly."
3) Rey can't be so surprised Luke was real. That's like our generation not knowing JFK was assassinated.

At least Rogue One attempted to get it right by killing off all the heroes that stole the plans to the Death Star.

And for all the ST lovers that love to defend it by tearing down the OT and PT, yes I'm quite aware that the PT is very guilty of this too.
Why don't Chewie and Yoda talk of each other?
Why doesn't Ben remember R2?
Why does Leia remember her mother?

I get it, the Star Wars movies I do like are guilty too. But let's face it, despite their flaws they're just more enjoyable.
It telling how there is finally a character/idea that pretty much the ENTIRE fandom (PT/OT/ST) seems to agree is awesome and here you come finding things to complain about.
 
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I don't think Baby Yoda HAS to die at all, nor do I think he contradicts the lore. Firstly, when would he even be ready to be trained as a a Jedi padawan? 200? Just because the purge happened doesn't mean force sensitives weren't born post those events, it just means they weren't trained. And while lore is ambiguous on Yoda's species, one thing that seems known is their species is always, inherently, force sensitive. I saw someone else mention this, but I think the Clone Wars ruined it, that being that his species are Whills. Would make sense, you know, if the Clone Wars didn't actually show Whills as apparently Harlequins or some BS. I still don't get why it or Rebels are so beloved, but to each their own. But point is, Baby Yoda does not remotely HAVE to die. Heck by the time he'd even become a Jedi, if at all, everyone would be LONG dead. If you're going to take the title of The Last Jedi out on something, don't look at Baby Yoda, look at Ruin Johnson's broom kid. Clearly "Last Jedi" was a hyperbole title, not a literal. If you missed that, I have nothing else to say to you other than to also remember to look both ways before you cross the street.

I do agree that Baby Yoda's got to go, eventually. It works for a time, but not the whole time. I don't think he should be in season 2. But this doesn't translate into him having to DIE. Just have him be adopted. Basically have a powerful "Don't go" scene from a dog/pet movie...where you give them away to live a safer happier and more free life...but almost instantly are sad they're gone. I think that will be far MORE emotional than Baby Yoda just dying. His going is far more emotional as in the end, it's kind of happy, just lonely. It's about letting go of something you love and while it may hurt, it's the right thing to do for both to grow and evolve on their own. The child dying is just messed up, not poignant. That won't happen. See the point of Baby Yoda, really, is that he's breaking the Mando's cold and harsh demeanor down. That closed off and walled exterior is diminishing. He does care about things, he's just prior not been able to show it well. Showing it doesn't really make him a good bounty hunter. Who wants to hire the hunter with feelings? Through the presence of this child we get to learn who the character of the Mandalorian really is. That is the genius of Baby Yodas creation. I don't know how many here have children, I personally do not, but I did play step-dad once. And when finally, sadly, his mother and I parted...it meant I too had to part with him in the end. It broke my heart, he was only three. But I knew, we learned a lot from each other. That is how Baby Yoda should end for just having known each other. Sad...but also...happy in the end. So to speak.
In my experience (and again everyone is different) having children is what not only taught me what love actually is but also fear.

I didn't know what actually fear was until the tiniest sliver of a thought crept in my head that something could happen to one of my children. That is what true fear is. Fear of loss.

My children have taught me what is actually important. I fully understand what the saying "take a bullet" someone else means.

That moment when Mando sees that bassinet in the dumpster WAS the moment he became a father. Something so innocent that belongs to a child that is just tossed aside is symbolically heart shattering. I felt that moment. I treat my children's blankets with as much care as I them. They make my children feel secure when I can't hold them therefore I cherish those objects. That bassinet provided protection for the baby when Mando could not physically hold him.

When he was hesitant to allow the child to go play outside of his view in that village with the children - I know exactly how that feels. Oddly enough I thought it was interesting how quick he was to allow that barmaid to "watch the kid" when he went after Cara. It almost seemed out of character at that point.

Anyway - apologies for the sappy rant. I love my kids.

Edit: just because I MUST throw my TLJ barb in everywhere I go - the fact that broom kids uses the Force to sweep horse **** tells you everything you need to know about that movie.
 
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the title "The Last Jedi" comes from the opening crawl of TFA.

"..Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker, the last Jedi, has been destroyed."


Rian just copy/pasted it from JJ Abrams.




^^ this doesn't mean the child needs to die. it's possible to know kung-fu and NOT be a shao-lin monk;

it's possible to know the force and NOT be a jedi. the "Jedi Order" is an institution. it's not a genetic trait.

I suspect this theme will carry over to the Mandalorian himself. ie: he was NOT born on Mandalore -- he was taken in by Mandalorians -- so, being a "Mandalorian" is not genetic either.
 

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When he was hesitant to allow the child to go play outside of his view in that village with the children - I know exactly how that feels. Oddly enough I thought it was interesting how quick he was to allow that barmaid to "watch the kid" when he went after Cara. It almost seemed out of character at that point.
I thought it was in character because he figured he was walking into a gun fight and didn't want the tadpole getting hurt. He didn't have the time to put him anywhere safe.

PS. You don't actually NEED to sling your barb every chance you get. People will take you more seriously if you use it more judiciously.
 
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I thought it was in character because he figured he was walking into a gun fight and didn't want the tadpole getting hurt. He didn't have the time to put him anywhere safe.

PS. You don't actually NEED to sling your barb every chance you get. People will take you more seriously if you use it more judiciously.
That was more my line of thinking too after my 2nd viewing I just felt I typed enough already in my first post.

As for TLJ...thanks for the advice...
 
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It telling how there is finally a character/idea that pretty much the ENTIRE fandom (PT/OT/ST) seems to agree is awesome and here you come finding things to complain about.
Who says I'm complaining? You should stop complaining about other people's opinions.
I'm watching and simply wondering where the show will go for it to make sense in the broader universe. It's light years better than the Disney Trilogy and I'm enjoying it to a point. Although, in between the great scenes, it feels like I'm watching the deleted scenes from the BluRay extras of a movie where they were cut from for a reason.
 
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I liked this episode. But yeah, it feels like they reeeeally need to start moving the overall arc forward at least a bit. Loved all the stuff and familiar faces in this one. The backstreet boy rookie annoyed me at first but I warmed up to the character by the end of the episode. Didn't know Steve Guttenberg did starship repair.
 
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So, did George Lucas secretly direct segments of the fifth episode? Some of the humor felt out of place and gave off a strong Prequels vibe.

I kind of felt like they were going for a Rhea Perlman type of character with the mechanic lady. I don't think it was successful, but she was fine.

Unfortunately, this does feel like the least necessary episode of the series so far. At least we got introduced to Cara Dune in the last episode. Ah well, I've been rewatching Star Trek: TNG while waiting for the new episodes of The Mandalorian to drop and I'm reminded that not every episode of a show needs to be the best thing ever in order for that TV show to be good. The first three episodes of this series built up enough goodwill from me to let a couple of less-then-stellar episodes slide.

That's not to say that episode 5 was terrible at all. This is actually more along the lines of what I expected this series to be when I first saw it announced. The fact that the first three episodes were as good as they were is what really caught me off guard.

Also, it's nice to see that EV-9D9 was able to find work after Jabba's death. :)
 
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I don't mind these episodes that don't move the central plot forward. Watching this show just feels like playing with toys on Saturday morning as a kid. Random pit droids! Trading with Sand People! Riding swoops across Tatooine! Maybe I'm not asking for much but that's all super satisfying to me on a deep level.

I'm not in a hurry to get wherever we're going, I'm just enjoying the ride!
 
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I don't mind these episodes that don't move the central plot forward. Watching this show just feels like playing with toys on Saturday morning as a kid. Random pit droids! Trading with Sand People! Riding swoops across Tatooine! Maybe I'm not asking for much but that's all super satisfying to me on a deep level.

I'm not in a hurry to get wherever we're going, I'm just enjoying the ride!
True. Remember when a season of a TV show was around 20-30 episodes, with none of them building to an epic finale? It's about the journey, not the destination. I like spending time in this universe with these characters. That's kind of the whole point.
 
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Awesome episode..
only 3 chapters left :cry: in the season...
i loved it..
classic star wars OT references !!
re watching it tonight after work!!!
 
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Just saw #5

Liked it. Was kind of great to see some familiar places, with almost identical camera angles.
ok, setting spoiler tags now for everyone not seen it yet ;)
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Mos Eisley as well as the Cantina felt a little empty and abandoned. Guess it was just early in the morning :) :)

Only on second viewing, I was surprised, as I realizing a EV droid being a bartender. Did Wuher sell his beloved bar and retired ?

Seeing the SHIELD agent being a hunterjob was nice, although she didn't reach the awesomeness of the Marvelshow

During the Swoob-ride, they should have included at least one familar place here. Either passing Jabbas Palace or the sailbarge wreckage at the Sarlaccpit would have been great

As for the mystery figure at the end, I am pretty sure I am hearing the signature cling-cling sounds of bootspores, and as we are still awaiting a "character from the CW show", I bet EVERYTHING, this will be Cad Bane.
 
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