In the vintage threadSo no ones reporting on the death of Kenny baker?
In the vintage threadSo no ones reporting on the death of Kenny baker?
He dosen't?! That is NOT ok. We should get this trending on twitter and enact real change. ;PI don't go in there, he doesn't serve Droids! :grin:
definitely. I hope that give her a dedication in the movie. I'm worried how they will handle her character in the new movie.Carrie is gone. Sad sad day. I read that she recently finished her scenes for episode VIII. It will be bittersweet to watch now for certain. RIP Princess.
New movie?definitely. I hope that give her a dedication in the movie. I'm worried how they will handle her character in the new movie.
that's my point... she was reported as having a larger role in EP VIII. what if her character was meant to be in EP IX ? they either have to redo parts of 8 to change the story to reflect her passing or cast a new actress to play the role in 9 or make some crazy reason as to why she's not in 9.New movie?
Don't have to worry about how they handle anything till EP 9.
I really do wonder how they will continue Leia's story if she is meant to live through EP 9?
I wouldn't be apposed to a look alike actress to play Leia in EP 9 with maybe a bit of Carrie Fishers face CGI'd onto her.that's my point... she was reported as having a larger role in EP VIII. what if her character was meant to be in EP IX ? they either have to redo parts of 8 to change the story to reflect her passing or cast a new actress to play the role in 9 or make some crazy reason as to why she's not in 9.
I'm sure they'd pay the estate of the actor for use of their likeness and have it all cleared before using it. I don't think they can just simply use a likeness and get away with it.Once you start down that path, forever will it dominate...
I hope that this practice doesn't get out of hand. And surely, we're in Jack Kirby territory now? How does something like this affect the person who should be getting paid for their part, but are gone? Is there a precedent set in Movies for this now?
I remember in one of the New Jedi Order era books (no longer canon of course) a character enters a meeting with the major characters and simply says "Admiral Ackbar is dead". No reaction to the statement from anyone. Just a throwaway line with no impact on the characters or story. Luke, Leia and Han deserve better. Han's death was a waste. If they decide to kill Leia, which would be very difficult to watch, I hope they do it justice. She deserves better than a simple "Leia is dead".
See I don't particularly find that they killed Han awful, and the way they did it I was fine with. Ford has wanted Han to die since Empire, this was an amicable decision on part of everyone. My problem is Disney has been so secretive about the time periods and the 30 years between trilogies, minus a few books now, it feels like Han lost something. I mean the Han we met in TFA was still heroic, but he was back doing what he'd done nearly 40 years ago because things went bad. I mean even he and Leia basically divorced even though they still loved each other because they just couldn't handle things. It annoys me that all the big heroes sort of just ran away, except Leia who knew the Resistance was needed. I guess I just dislike that (and yes I realize books and the old EU didn't always turn out so great.) we see such a defining moment of celebration and happiness in RotJ...and then we have to jump 30 years ahead and suddenly everything is either been reset or just as bad a sit was during Imperial control.Its the thing I hated the most about TFA with how they killed off Han Solo.
Was just a dumb idea all around............
Oohhh don't worry why do you think they signed on a new actor to play Han Solo? TO MILK IT over the next 30 years while he ages so that they can have a new prequel series in the next decade or so. Just give it a few more years, and there will be a new Luke Skywalker and Leia, and they'll very much make a series on this era. I almost guarantee it.See I don't particularly find that they killed Han awful, and the way they did it I was fine with. Ford has wanted Han to die since Empire, this was an amicable decision on part of everyone. My problem is Disney has been so secretive about the time periods and the 30 years between trilogies, minus a few books now, it feels like Han lost something. I mean the Han we met in TFA was still heroic, but he was back doing what he'd done nearly 40 years ago because things went bad. I mean even he and Leia basically divorced even though they still loved each other because they just couldn't handle things. It annoys me that all the big heroes sort of just ran away, except Leia who knew the Resistance was needed. I guess I just dislike that (and yes I realize books and the old EU didn't always turn out so great.) we see such a defining moment of celebration and happiness in RotJ...and then we have to jump 30 years ahead and suddenly everything is either been reset or just as bad a sit was during Imperial control.
Didn't you know? It all happened on Life day so Chewie just walked into the sun and got Han out. They slapped some bacta on him and he'll be fine.Its the thing I hated the most about TFA with how they killed off Han Solo.
Was just a dumb idea all around............
While I don't doubt you're on to something, wouldn't that be jarring? Like I get if Ewan comes back in place of Guinness, that's something they'll do, but wouldn't it be weird if we watch Prequels-OT- new films in between with new cast- ST with old cast?Oohhh don't worry why do you think they signed on a new actor to play Han Solo? TO MILK IT over the next 30 years while he ages so that they can have a new prequel series in the next decade or so. Just give it a few more years, and there will be a new Luke Skywalker and Leia, and they'll very much make a series on this era. I almost guarantee it.
Maybe a little but we'll all get used to it. You've just got to suspend belief if they ever do OT era films with the main crew with different actors, it's more about the character not about the person playing the role. For me it'll be like watching the Bond films with different actors in the same main Bond role different actors but same character. If they can pull it off it'll be amazing.While I don't doubt you're on to something, wouldn't that be jarring? Like I get if Ewan comes back in place of Guinness, that's something they'll do, but wouldn't it be weird if we watch Prequels-OT- new films in between with new cast- ST with old cast?
I'm pretty sure it's still a Leia reference and not Rey. Perhaps after ROTJ Luke decided to follow on being a Jedi and Leia took the rebellion approach since that's what she was used to doing. She might just keep any of her learnt skills on the down low and out of sight, I'm sure she would've taught Ben some Jedi skills before he joined Snoke.Star Wars the Force Awakens brings back the characters of Luke and Leia.. yet Leia is not a Jedi in TFA, George was not directly involved in TFA since he sold the rights to Disney and Disney did not use his ideas. so are we now supposed to assume that "the Other" Yoda spoke of in ESB is now the character of Rey or Finn and not that of Leia.
In TFA Leia is seen having some connection to the force as she knows when Han dies. We don't know how much training she has had, I suspect more than we have seen. But for what its worth, in the EU she only had powers as the story needed because she was older when she started her training.ok... so I just thought of something and I'm not sure if it was already discussed in this thread or not but here goes:
just watched Return of the Jedi the other night (had a craving to see the Sail Barge attack and the final duel with Vader) and while watching it I had a thought pop into my head. In Empire Strikes Back when Luke leaves Dagobah to confront rescue his friends Obi Wan says.. "That boy is our last hope." to which Yoda replies... "No, there is another.". now flash forward to ROTJ and we learn that Luke and Leia are brother and sister and Luke reveals that Leia has the power of the Force just as Luke does in ROTJ. now jump forward to 2015 and Star Wars the Force Awakens brings back the characters of Luke and Leia.. yet Leia is not a Jedi in TFA, George was not directly involved in TFA since he sold the rights to Disney and Disney did not use his ideas. so are we now supposed to assume that "the Other" Yoda spoke of in ESB is now the character of Rey or Finn and not that of Leia.
also how is this now all going to play out for EP XIII and The Last Jedi?
I'm curious to hear your thought?
In TFA Leia is seen having some connection to the force as she knows when Han dies. We don't know how much training she has had, I suspect more than we have seen. But for what its worth, in the EU she only had powers as the story needed because she was older when she started her training.
As I explained in the Han Solo movie thread, Han may have started out as someone who maintained some authority, but fell into hard times and had to make tough decision just to survive. But it seems he didn't get consumed by the turmoil that was happening in the galaxy. So when an opportunity present itself to fix the wrongs that are happening in the galaxy, he makes a conscious decision to take advantage of that opportunity because despite his self interests, he still maintains a sense of obligation and duty (in a way to the galaxy). His decision to confront his son could be seen as the ultimate sacrifice.Han is the biggest disappointment to me by far, because he didn’t have a good reason to not look for his son or try to help him. Han wasn’t saving anyone, he wasn’t defending the galaxy, he was just being a smuggler. And that almost makes me not like Han anymore. I hate to think of Han Solo as a dead beat dad.