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We have a Lower Decks trailer, folks!

I don't know that I really need a Trek comedy, but I have to admit this looks fun. Lots of Easter Eggs in there, from what I could spot.

And the Cerritos looks much better in these shots than it did in the somewhat unflattering poster image.
The trailer doesn't sell me on it being funny enough. That is, as funny as the other series this is meant to compete against like Rick & Morty. Then again, Solar Opposites isn't as funny as Rick & Morty, so it's not as if it comes easy.

While it's still early to make a final determination, it surprises me that this is supposedly Mike McMahan's baby. He was brilliant with the S8 Twitter and the Warped book that came of that, but the trailer doesn't show that brilliance. I hope he wasn't hamstrung by Kurtzman on that.

Speaking of which, and of the ship, I won't beat a dead horse, but why make the nacelles different when they got so much TNG era stuff right? Can anyone else eyeball if it's a 25% difference? ;)
 
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Those STO ships are turning out to be stunning models. I just wish the designs weren't so busy. There are some really good ideas there, but in my subjective opinion, I feel like they overdo it with the secondary details, making then look fussy and over-defined. The colours and surface markings interfere with the primary forms too much. I guess it's the STO aesthetic and takes cues from the Enterprise E, but it goes too far for my tastes. I'd love to take these designs and dial them back 20% to something more like the series/movie aesthetics. But, regardless, they are undeniably magnificent models. :)
 
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Speaking of which, and of the ship, I won't beat a dead horse, but why make the nacelles different when they got so much TNG era stuff right? Can anyone else eyeball if it's a 25% difference? ;)
Yeah, they do jump out as a bit anachronistic, don't they? They look a lot to me like the kind of nacelles we were seeing on the First Contact ships like the Steamrunner and Akira, and some of the Disco ships like the Hoover-class. I dislike those nacelles for the same reason: too boxy and ugly compared to the sublime beauty of the Enterprise D and E nacelles. These feel like they come from that same school of design, so I suppose they kinda bridge the Akira-style ships with the Wolf 359 kit-bashed fleet, which is what the rest of the ship reminds me of.
 
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Speaking of which, and of the ship, I won't beat a dead horse, but why make the nacelles different when they got so much TNG era stuff right? Can anyone else eyeball if it's a 25% difference? ;)
Because they didn't have to do 25%. Maybe closer to 24 to 26 ;)

The designers were given a directive to do something different instead of familiar nacelles. Though, their choices were...interesting.

but the trailer doesn't show that brilliance.
Trailers are rarely put together by the production team. I think it could be good. I'm at least willing to try it out a couple of times.

ETA: More on topic that Europa looks fantastic!

Double ETA: https://www.snapships.com/ as a possibility?
 
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Hey, are you spitballing here, or have you heard they are after/been granted a license?

I wasn't familiar with the line until now, but just running with this for the sake of it...it's a bit gashapon like F-Toys, a bit Kre-O, and a bit Zoids (having pilots). Could be possibilities there like there was with the South Bend 1701 refit back in the early 80s with nacelle reconfiguration, I guess.
 
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On the online stream, the designer of many of the STO ships (Hector Ortiz) said that his brief for his game designs was to ensure the ships were easily identifiable from a great distance and from every angle, hence the exaggerated/oversized parts (which he readily copped to). He also said that he'd not go that route for ships he'd design specifically for EM, he'd tone that down for miniatures.
 
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Hey, are you spitballing here, or have you heard they are after/been granted a license?

I wasn't familiar with the line until now, but just running with this for the sake of it...it's a bit gashapon like F-Toys, a bit Kre-O, and a bit Zoids (having pilots). Could be possibilities there like there was with the South Bend 1701 refit back in the early 80s with nacelle reconfiguration, I guess.
Just speculation. I'm still trying to figure out the scale, Just learned about them on another forum.
 
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As much as I don't like the Discovery aesthetic, I do like that station, but not control.

Regula-1!!!!!!!! So now we have a simple rerelease from EM where they just remove the lower extending tubes and BAM! Star base 375.
 
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Can definitely see that, now that yiou point it out, Megs. I think if it were based on a nine-spoked wheel rather than eight that would for sure fall into Cardie territory as so many of the forms are within the established Cardassian shape language.
 
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Hey everyone. Not ship related, but Eaglemoss Star Trek related.

I was at my local Dollarama (Canada's largest dollar store chain) and found volume 1,2 & 5 of the Star Trek hardcover collection from Eaglemoss. (Countdown to 2009 Movie, City on the Edge of Forever retelling & Day in the life)

They were $3 each. Just wondering if these are common at low end chains, or something unusual?
 
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I've seen a wide variety of those books at Dollarama (bought the City one) and have heard they show up en masse at pound stores in the UK, too.

In other news, first looks at the S31 Hou-Yi-Class and the XL Shenzhou. :)

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Guess that means there's one more DIS ship to announce before they go on hiatus/into a new line. Any guesses?
 
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Thanks DD, I was wondering about that.

As for Dis. It is the line I started strong with and have now pretty much abandoned. I don't get anything from the line anymore unless my local guy has a sale. Even then it has to be something I really want.

Thankfully the STSS is coming to a close and I can direct some funds to other ships as wanted. Although I am definitely a sucker for Battlestar Galactica. That line has been incredible and I am almost completely caught up. I would argue that it has been ship for ship the best line done by Eaglemoss so far.

I know it isn't exactly fair since Star Trek has released sooooo many ships there was bound to be duds and problems.
 
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Any talk about The Expanse from EM? That's a pretty diverse selection of designs.

Anyhow, other than build-your-own partworks for 1701-D and maybe other ships, I doubt my interest will continue at the same level either. While I am still sore that we still didn't get the long-promised BoBW Cube, or even just a DeAgostini version reissue, a Narada, Trieste, Tian An Men etc, I am quite glad we did get what we have, and feel some guilt about not having been a better customer somehow, as if that might have changed things. I know that sounds foolish, but I didn't want it to end. Who did?

Speaking of which...where's my XL Stargazer? I'd even buy a build-your-own Stargazer over a year or so. I do love that design.

Anyhow, EM had success in this classic line in some part due to the groundwork laid by Mattel, Furuta, and Johnny Lightning before, so unless one of those fills the void again, I can't imagine that there won't be another line from someone again. Any news?

On another front, I got really bad news from Entertainment Earth. Apparently DST said they were doing another run of the 1701-D, so EE opened pre-orders, and I put one in (I know, I should have had the damned thing for years, but don't, and the price was great!). I just got a cancellation saying DST isn't doing it now. I could really use some good news.
 
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I saw Lower Decks. The pacing requires Adderall to feel normal, but it's innocuous. If you're wondering if this skews towards Rick & Morty, well the cybernetic ensign's eyes occasionally remind me of Birdperson, but that's it. There's no way they would be allowed to be that edgy, so keep laugh expectations realistic. At best they are going for The Orville crowd...but, again, on Adderall. ;)

The 25% different issue seems less of a joke when you watch this, as they get SO much from the TNG era right, that you wonder why every fourth thing is specifically different.
 
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I'm digging it. Given the Orville left me cold, I really didn't think this show would grab me as much, but it has. I thoroughly enjoyed the first five episodes and the family members all love it, so that's a bonus. The humour is dialed way up, but I genuinely find it funny. And it ain't all jokes. The stories have heart and I'm loving all the deep cut references. It's great that it is firmly anchored in established 24th Century visual canon.

Sure, I'm glad that it isn't the only Trek storytelling that we have to look forward to and that we'll get more serious content as well, but I like getting to have some fun in the Trek universe this way without disrespecting what went before.

And, it has loads of starship porn! Check out these hotties! I can't wait to see what Eaglemoss does with the designs. :)

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Adderall says it all. Still, I'm enjoying LD too, it's a fun diversion, especially as it's lovingly crammed with easter eggs. It certainly shows reverence for the holy canon, in its own goofy way.

Interesting, Rev, the Orville didn't work for me, either. I've been told it got much better as it went along but I just can't bring myself to watch any more. ;
Nice to see Vancouver in the mix of names, eh. :) I quite like that design, but the Cerritos is gonna take me a while to love or grok.

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I'm digging it. Given the Orville left me cold, I really didn't think this show would grab me as much, but it has. I thoroughly enjoyed the first five episodes and the family members all love it, so that's a bonus. The humour is dialed way up, but I genuinely find it funny. And it ain't all jokes. The stories have heart and I'm loving all the deep cut references. It's great that it is firmly anchored in established 24th Century visual canon.

Sure, I'm glad that it isn't the only Trek storytelling that we have to look forward to and that we'll get more serious content as well, but I like getting to have some fun in the Trek universe this way without disrespecting what went before.

And, it has loads of starship porn! Check out these hotties! I can't wait to see what Eaglemoss does with the designs. :)

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Have you seen Rick & Morty? I'm wondering where you'd gauge this against that, especially since McMahan did work a little on that.

Personally, even Solar Opposites strikes me as more humorous than Lower Decks but it's innocuous or harmless at worst (well, except for allowing Kurtzman to keep the reins on Trek). I'm glad it's not trying to subvert expectations as other projects have. It's accessible and lighthearted. That's something we could really use right now.

Adderall says it all. Still, I'm enjoying LD too, it's a fun diversion, especially as it's lovingly crammed with easter eggs. It certainly shows reverence for the holy canon, in its own goofy way.

Interesting, Rev, the Orville didn't work for me, either. I've been told it got much better as it went along but I just can't bring myself to watch any more. ;
Nice to see Vancouver in the mix of names, eh. :) I quite like that design, but the Cerritos is gonna take me a while to love or grok.

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STO detailing detracts little from this version of the Europa. I still like it.

The thing about The Orville that I said early on, and almost took back because I did want the show to go on compared to Disco, was that it's essentially a TNG ripoff in sitcom clothes. It's nowhere near a true parody, and ironically, seems to follow it's own 25% rule of added comedy to keep it legal as such. That, along with a paycheck for every Trek franchise actor who wants one, is what the show is.

Still, I'd rather have it than not, and especially when held against what Kurtzman is bringing us. Whether lifted as plagarism, an homage, or parody, The Orville exhalts all the good aspects of the Trek we know and love, and doesn't try to turn it on itself.

Lower Decks doesn't seem to show quite the same reverence to the "soul" of TNG, but it cares a lot more about Trek than anything else in the franchise right now.

If the Cerritos only had Galaxy nacelles and shortened struts, it would be a sure seller. The Vancouver is interesting, to be sure. It has a little of a Universe class detail to it. I can see owning a model of it.

Thing is, will EM do models on these, or do they need a new license for this line?
 
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Have you seen Rick & Morty? I'm wondering where you'd gauge this against that, especially since McMahan did work a little on that.
Never seen an ep. so I went into LD with no expectations in that regard. I was skeptical, but it quickly won me over. I think it has tonnes of heart.

The thing about The Orville that I said early on, and almost took back because I did want the show to go on compared to Disco, was that it's essentially a TNG ripoff in sitcom clothes. It's nowhere near a true parody, and ironically, seems to follow it's own 25% rule of added comedy to keep it legal as such. That, along with a paycheck for every Trek franchise actor who wants one, is what the show is.

Still, I'd rather have it than not, and especially when held against what Kurtzman is bringing us. Whether lifted as plagarism, an homage, or parody, The Orville exhalts all the good aspects of the Trek we know and love, and doesn't try to turn it on itself.

Lower Decks doesn't seem to show quite the same reverence to the "soul" of TNG, but it cares a lot more about Trek than anything else in the franchise right now.
I think it has been kinda the opposite experience for me. I went into The Orville really, really wanting to love it, but it just doesn't give em anything. The characters just don't engage me and I find the pace slow. I love TNG but The Orville doesn't remind me of that show at all. I'm confused when I hear folks say it is so Trekian in heart and soul. The problem must be me, because I can't suspend my disbelief enough to enjoy it. I have so many friends who adore the show and I've watched many episodes from both the first and second seasons, but just have to accept that it's not my thing. That's fine. There's so much else to enjoy that I'm okay with not loving everything. :) A lot of the choices in Disco and Picard missed me, too, but I also found tonnes in there to love, so I'm used to being happy picking the fruit out of my cereal.

If the Cerritos only had Galaxy nacelles and shortened struts, it would be a sure seller. The Vancouver is interesting, to be sure. It has a little of a Universe class detail to it. I can see owning a model of it.
So true on both counts. :)

I think the Cerritos's awkwardness is by design, and seeing it alongside the Vancouver underscored that for me. One is a sports car and the other is a boxy family sedan that no one has spent any time trying to make look sexy. It's a strange choice for the hero ship of the show, but fits with the theme of the series. To quote Firefly,"If I could make you prettier I would!" but it's growing on me. ;)

DD, those EM models keep getting better and better. The busier STO aesthetic isn't my favourite and I am glad that isn't the way the movies or series have gone, but they make magnificent models.

That Disco Klingon Bathl ship still puzzles me so much. It'd be an awesome alien freighter of the week, but I'm a bit sad that it's supposed to be a Klingon warship. Such strange creative choices made with the Klingons in Season 1.
 
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Never seen an ep. so I went into LD with no expectations in that regard. I was skeptical, but it quickly won me over. I think it has tonnes of heart.
Strap in, if you do. It may reset your opinion. ;)

I think it has been kinda the opposite experience for me. I went into The Orville really, really wanting to love it, but it just doesn't give em anything. The characters just don't engage me and I find the pace slow. I love TNG but The Orville doesn't remind me of that show at all. I'm confused when I hear folks say it is so Trekian in heart and soul. The problem must be me, because I can't suspend my disbelief enough to enjoy it. I have so many friends who adore the show and I've watched many episodes from both the first and second seasons, but just have to accept that it's not my thing. That's fine. There's so much else to enjoy that I'm okay with not loving everything. :) A lot of the choices in Disco and Picard missed me, too, but I also found tonnes in there to love, so I'm used to being happy picking the fruit out of my cereal.
Well, I didn't lavish praise on The Orville either, I just think it reveres TNG in a different way. I think some embrace it more on that count, but I don't completely drink the kool-aid either. I do think it's a good example of a different take on Trek.

I think the Cerritos's awkwardness is by design, and seeing it alongside the Vancouver underscored that for me. One is a sports car and the other is a boxy family sedan that no one has spent any time trying to make look sexy. It's a strange choice for the hero ship of the show, but fits with the theme of the series. To quote Firefly,"If I could make you prettier I would!" but it's growing on me. ;)
The cynic in me ascribed the odd differences in the Cerritos to the 25% difference rumor (and it's not exactly dismissed), but making it an odd bird is more apparent when they get the Olympic class one completely right

DD, those EM models keep getting better and better. The busier STO aesthetic isn't my favourite and I am glad that isn't the way the movies or serie s have gone, but they make magnificent models.
Same, but the Europa design, Disco original or this, is a good Miranda-descendant, and I do love the Miranda despite the glut of it in TNG onward.
 
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Comedy and sci-fi make for uneasy bedfellows, if ya ask me. It's hard to mix farce with trying to sell a "real" made-up universe, so I think it only works in rare circumstances. Hehe, I vote for Spaceballs as the winner in the category, they just went for gags.

I like Rick and Morty but can only take small doses, it's a bit too frenetic for me to binge it. I kinda wish LD was a little more course and rude, like R&M, tbh. I get the sense they're pulling their punches here. I just found the few Orvilles I've seen to be more of a piss-take than a loving satire, and I found the whole thing low-rent TNG, too derivative, nothing new to add that wasn't already in Galaxy Quest.
But I understand why many Trekkies like it, it's got some good bits too.

I tell ya, Rev, those STO ships are really doing my head in: I haven't ordered any yet but I'm getting weaker, resistance is crumbling, many really look good. :)
Once I finish with the regular line and round up stragglers, I think I'll be plunging in. Just the final 3 (178-180), a shuttle set (5), and a Bonus (Reliant concept) to go, before my eventual capitulation to the STO ships. Gawd 'elp me.

In other news, Ben appeared on the Inglorious Trekspert podcast the other day, so I made some notes, natch. :)

- EM/HC ship models were slated to be used for props/set decos/product placement on the new Trek shows but this hasn't happened yet:
-- John Eaves spray-painted a bunch of EM/HC ships gold for a PIC scene in "Riker's office or whatever he had" but they didn't appear in the final cut
-- DIS Season 2 storyline with "Pike's sister" (she would've been "flying the (EM/HC) NX-01 model in her hand") wasn't produced
- Andy Probert's still fine-tuning his vertical Romulan warbird concept design, working on it for a year
- Babylon 5 licensing enquired about by EM but licensor (WB) declined, "not a live license" for them at this time
- Ben would like to do an XL Botany Bay in launch configuration with boosters
- New licenses are slated to be announced in the next few weeks, "news for people who watch television" (cryptic, innit)
- Ben would consider doing the Mothership from Close Encounters of the Third Kind, ships from The Black Hole, Firefly
- EM/HC has done 72 ships from the era before Discovery, by Ben's count
- EM/HC has enquired about Buck Rogers In The 25thC licensing for McQuarrie's Thunderfighter but Universal says they don't own it, so it's not presently possible
- A "tonne" more Orville ships are coming next year
- More ships from Alien are coming in "a new scale" (?!?)
- Ben expects to receive at least one new ship design per month from the new Trek shows
- About 30 XL Trek issues are currently planned (total, so that's ~7 more forthcoming)
 
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Fascinating news. I wonder if The Expanse is one of those new ones. Maybe the new Lost In Space too?

Anyhow, it sounds good for an XL Stargazer! Maybe them finally getting a proper Borg cube out in the range that surpasses the DeAgostini one isn't yet a dead duck, either. XL size would make it more in scale vs the standard range. I wonder if I should allow myself to get excited again. :)

I'd kill for a Black Hole Cygnus, but that's a Disney license. Something tells me if they could come to terms with Disney, that would have happened awhile ago. :unsure:

One license that I would truly love to see EM obtain would be from Toho, but again, I think we might have seen that happen by now. Of course, if he's actually admitting to WB and Uni turning them down, I wonder if they have approached Disney and Toho yet since there's been no mention.

Anyhow, can you imagine how popular EM Maser tanks would be set alongside Neca or Bandai SH MonsterArts Godzilla figures? Aside from the odd accessory with a MonsterArts figure, neither Bandai nor Neca have explored that market, and other Japanese brands which have, haven't done so for years, and mostly in model kits when they have.

Then again...Neca is losing their license as Legendary is administrating it in N. America again, and allowing Playmates to do Legendary monsterverse toys. It doesn't affect Bandai, but perhaps as a western licensee, EM might not get a foot in the door either.

Damn, I wish that podcast asked these questions!

Is there another Ben announced which I could send these to the hosts of? ;)
 
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Oh wow, an EM Firefly (Serenity) would be AMAZING! I love my QMx model, but would def go an EM as well. Here's to hoping Stargate is on the list of new franchises, soooooo many ships from that one that we've never had proper models of.
 
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Oh wow, an EM Firefly (Serenity) would be AMAZING! I love my QMx model, but would def go an EM as well. Here's to hoping Stargate is on the list of new franchises, soooooo many ships from that one that we've never had proper models of.
I swear I had a brianfart when I posted, as I thought I mentioned Stargate too. That would make a great line. I'd love a Glider and Ra's Cheops Pyramid ship at least. Atlantis would be great if they could do that too.
 
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There's no reason to think it is coming based on these clues, but I still hold out hope that some day Eaglemoss will acquire a Star Wars license. I'd love to see them do with the Wars what they have accomplished for Trek, and in my view it's probably the only way we would get many of the capital ship classes that toy lines tend to skip in favour of starfighters.
 
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Hehe, I'm just terrified that EM will get the SW license... can you even imagine how many ships they'd do?
Ah hell, bring 'em on! Can always get marriage counselling later. :)

In other news, the Son'a Collector went up as a special y'day. And there will be announcements about the line at virtual NYCC, rumour has it.

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Even as a magazine-based partwork, an EM SW license would really step on the toes of Mattel, so I wonder if we would see that. Yes, they do it with Trek, but Mattel did far less with their license, so it didn't surprise me as much to see both hold them continuously.

I'm also wondering if EM went after a DUNE license based on the new film, or even the old one or miniseries'. Sadly, I assume each would require different licenses, but it would be great to see them do Doctor Who-style figurines as well as ships and mech for all.
 
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Shuttle set 7 went up last night on the US shop, yay! I'm pretty stoked about the Captain's yacht, less so about the others.

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And here are some (unknown until now) figurines from GE Fabbri's short-lived Star Trek: The Figurine Collection from 2006, in addition to the 5 we knew.

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