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Looks like there's plans for a new Star Trek tv series that'll start in 2017, supposedly not connected to any previous series or movie.
 
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I was excited to hear about this today, but also disappointed that it's not going to run on broadcast TV. The information I read indicated that this will be on CBS' streaming service.
 
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ive been waiting and waiting for someone to finally get a new trek going and now they do it on another streaming channel trying to make me add.
 
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Yeah, I was about to post about this earlier today. But after learning it was only going to be offered on their paid streaming service, I lost interest.
IMO, by making it available on that said service. CBS doesn't have much faith in it either.

It's too bad as it sounded promising, something new and original, and the best part not connected to the movies.
 
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I'm up for it as long as it stars a completely new crew on a ship NOT named Enterprise. If it's just another reboot of the original series then forget it.
 

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I love Trek and am looking forward to it with a few reservations about paying for it. If the pilot is good, and I can binge the season and only pay for a month of the service, then I'm in.
 
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Yeah, I was about to post about this earlier today. But after learning it was only going to be offered on their paid streaming service, I lost interest.
IMO, by making it available on that said service. CBS doesn't have much faith in it either.

It's too bad as it sounded promising, something new and original, and the best part not connected to the movies.
I think it says that they have faith in it to boost users for their streaming service.
 
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I think it says that they have faith in it to boost users for their streaming service.
Exactly. All networks are moving to more proprietary systems. That's why the first major STAR WARS VII interviews on late night were with Jimmy Kimmel - because Kimmel's on ABC, owned by Disney, which owns Lucasfilm. Even though it's not Leno or Letterman anymore, those two shows are still the top of late-night. But Disney's keeping it more "in the family". Pretty soon you'll see "Dancing with the Star Wars Stars" and the such, only ABC/Disney/Lucasfilm/Marvel stars on their talk shows.

CBS is looking to compete with Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, and even HBO GO. They're taking a hugely popular product and driving viewers to their pay service. It's a smart business move, but it'll have to be a "wait and see" on whether it works or not.
 
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I hope they have 2 scripts, one to wrap things up the service fails after one season and one for successful long running series.
 
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I remain indifferent to this news, except for the pay streaming thing. That's a turn off imho.

Having watched TOS as a youngster, then TNG, then DS9, Voyager, countless films, etc I recognize that its time for Hollywood to pull this vehicle out, blow the dust off it's old dry bones, rebrand it, and sell it to an all new group of up-and-comers who can be swayed by all of the usual indoctrination disguised as culturally in-beat social commentary....

Meh, I have little expectations or concerns about another Trek reboot, but if it gets off he ground, receives good reviews, and has a relatively long streaming run, I'll rent the series when it comes out in whatever format is the newest at the time and give the series a fair shot.

I'll check back for developments and reviews in a few years to see if it's worth my time.
 
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I guess I'm just going to be dragged into the streaming stuff kicking and screaming because, so far, I haven't watched more than a few minutes of anything on a tablet, phone, or via a streaming service on my TV.

I'm a huge fan of Top Gear and am still a bit uncertain if I'll watch when the guys debut their new show on Amazon.

To me - streaming should be reserved for shows that, for some reason or another, can't get a big enough following on broadcast TV to generate the audience advertisers need. But, again, I'm obviously out of touch and it's clear that many streaming shows are successful. I just can't imagine though putting something as big as Trek on a streaming service vs. broadcast or even cable TV.
 
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The old model is dying. Digital services are getting content earlier and earlier. Their original content is gaining greater recognition. The biggest problem that I see is that if you have a single content provider and want to watch a show on another provider there is no legal way to get it except to subscribe to another service.
 
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I remain indifferent to this news, except for the pay streaming thing. That's a turn off imho.

Having watched TOS as a youngster, then TNG, then DS9, Voyager, countless films, etc I recognize that its time for Hollywood to pull this vehicle out, blow the dust off it's old dry bones, rebrand it, and sell it to an all new group of up-and-comers who can be swayed by all of the usual indoctrination disguised as culturally in-beat social commentary....

Meh, I have little expectations or concerns about another Trek reboot, but if it gets off he ground, receives good reviews, and has a relatively long streaming run, I'll rent the series when it comes out in whatever format is the newest at the time and give the series a fair shot.

I'll check back for developments and reviews in a few years to see if it's worth my time.
I am pretty sure JJ Trek shows that they gave up on capitalism vs socialism in Trek. This is not the old days you could alieanate half of your audience because you barely had competition. This the time of The Expanse, Foundation, Killjoys and tons of ohter shows competing with you.
 
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CBS is looking to compete with Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, and even HBO GO. They're taking a hugely popular product and driving viewers to their pay service. It's a smart business move, but it'll have to be a "wait and see" on whether it works or not.
I realize that it's a tough market out there for TV these days, but this can't be the way to go about it. Seems like it would just alienate even more people. I'm already disgusted with Satellite and Cable, because you have to pay so much for so many channels I simply do not watch. Just to see the 5 shows a week that I do watch. Plus you're bound to the night that show airs, unless you want to pay extra for DVR. The onDemand doesn't let you FF anymore. This is one reason why I like Netflix and Hulu, watch what I want, when I want.

The more we do move into Digital TV, I do expect each Network would rather charge for their own service. Then get payed a small fee from netflix or Hulu. And we'd be right back into that paying too much area, by the time you add up all the channels you'd be paying to watch.
 
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TBH, I'm not interested after learning the era. I've just had it with prequels already.
 
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TBH, I'm not interested after learning the era. I've just had it with prequels already.
It's just a setting. It could have it's own era, it's own region of space to explore and it's own unique baddies to fight.
 
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It's just a setting. It could have it's own era, it's own region of space to explore and it's own unique baddies to fight.
Absolutely agree with you Cartel_Al_Jabr (prolly my first time!) :p

I'm looking quite forward to it - and I think it will be a visually updated version of 'the Cage' episode era trek (from what I've heard). I suspect it won't carry forward much of the 1960s TOS tech (consoles with buttons, etc), and will be something of a reboot, of the visual style of TOS.

And I really love the USS Discovery design! Cannot wait to see more of her!
 
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I'm mildly interested to see how the pilot turns out, which will be broadcast on tv, but there's no way I'm purchasing a subscription for the rest of the series, especially after all the Axanar BS. I'm honestly turned off by the franchise at the moment.
 
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I think it will be a visually updated version of 'the Cage' episode era trek (from what I've heard). I suspect it won't carry forward much of the 1960s TOS tech (consoles with buttons, etc), and will be something of a reboot, of the visual style of TOS.
Exactly, something that already happened with Enterprise. And then again with NuTrek.

I just have no desire to see stuff happening prior to events that have already happened. It posses a great risk for alterations.
 

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Me too. I enjoyed it for now, but I'm not subscribing. And the Klingons are absolutely unrecognizable; I mean, I get that the film and later shows dressed them like Mad Max extras, but this redesign is strange- and where are the birds-of-prey?
 
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Didnt like it to much. Dialogue felt forced and i really thought the acting was way off mark. Plus The Klingon's really bothered me not only look things like worshiping the dead against all previous customs but just the way they spoke. The timing was off, the words sounded mushy and poorly pronounced/delivered. Also things like changing the theme to the intro, it all felt like they were doing a Marvel Netflix show instead of Star Trek.
 
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Thanks to 60 Minutes, my DVR only recorded half of the episode, lol - what I watched was alright, but nothing spectacular. Is it available to watch anywhere else, other than the subscription? I didn't see the pilot episode available with the CBS On Demand listings.
 
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Didn't watch, but DVR'd it. Though i thought this was on the CBS app? Or was the Pilot meant to entice us into paying to see the rest?

I probably watch it on the weekend to see what it's all about, but I have a feeling it will fall flat with me
 
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It is streaming on Crave TV in Canada which I subscribe to anyway.

A tad spoiler-y in what follows....

I enjoyed it and will keep watching. It is interesting to see what they are doing with the Michael character IMO. Some have written about how sci-fi, including Abrams reboot of ST, have taken the appreciation of expertise, intelligence and qualifications out of the genre. Such that someone with just "gumption" or "attitude" can go out into space and kick alien butt and get the job done (and though some might say that this tradition goes back to Alien even they point out that Ripley was actually good at her job and had to use her space smarts to survive...barely)! An under appreciation of qualifications has crept into the genre and a desire to see heroes who do what those with the experience are afraid (or too smart???) to do won't do...those talking about it have ideas as to why...It seems with the Michael character they are trying to perhaps have it both ways? She's smart, completely qualified and yet...perhaps a bit like Kirk ultimately, ready to break the rules? Though Kirk was, correct me if I'm wrong, never shown in TOS to defy direct orders from Starfleet was he? Or to ever do something that would be considered mutiny?
 
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You have a point. In so many of these more recent incarnations, the chain of command is there to hinder the characters instead of being a part of the process. Even in a show like Orville (which... is not really good), where they are trying (too hard) to match TNG, they are defying chain of command.
 
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Well, i caved and watch the Pilot episode. I can say that parts of it are good, while others seem WTF is this? It appears to want to utilize 24th Century technology in a 22nd Century time period. It just feels out of place. Don't even get me stared on the Klingons... The part of me that likes it is at war with the part that doesn't want anything to do with retelling of History. They're pretty much making it difficult to watch Classic trek anymore, as it seems out of place.

I get that a lot of people don't like the Trek tech speak, it's not for everyone. But i do miss it a bit. They kind of tried to weasel it in with that new Alien guy's character. And to some extent with the 1st officer. She does seems like an interesting character, having lived among Vulcans.

Bottom line, I might watch it if it were free. Maybe once it's finished an put somewhere where I can, I'll give it a shot. But this is definitely not a Trek show I'm willing to pay for. They'd have had better luck with me if it was set several years after Picard, and based on new adventures. Not retelling old ones a different way. lol
 
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I did not understand the pilot episode and will not pay for CBS on Demand. I am a fan of Star Trek and enjoy it very much. I have seen all episodes and ready many books, I wish they would just stop going back and move forward after TNG. I also did not like the lens flares, it reminded me too much of a Jar Jar Abrams "Star Trek" film. I will just wait for Blu-ray, but only to add it to the Star Trek Collection...
 

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It appears to want to utilize 24th Century technology in a 22nd Century time period.
That's definitely it; I remember when Enterprise aired, many of us thought it looked too advanced for the time period (except the Grappler, which was interesting). The Shen Zhou (sp?) and the Discovery look far too advanced; if they are going to do a prequel series, then conform to the look of the past!
 
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I'm a life-long Star Trek fan but I'm not a "purist" in the sense that I think things like canon and continuity are untouchable. I enjoy the reboot movies quite a bit. I try not to be a nitpicky fan but even I have my limits. Setting a show 10 years before TOS and then filling it with technology that, as others have said, looks like its more advanced than things we've seen in the 24th century is just asking for trouble. And it's asking for trouble unnecessarily. It creates problems that could have been easily avoided by either setting the show after Voyager or establishing that it's part of the new movie continuity where, visually, it would fit much better.

The last time the Star Trek franchise jumped ahead in its fictional timeline was 30 years ago when TNG debuted. DS9 and Voyager continued in that era so those shows were set in what was the "present" of the Star Trek universe. Everything since then has been prequels and reboots. Thirty years is a long time for a sci-fi property that's supposed to be about moving forward.
 
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Just curious: Does the tech not mesh with what we saw in the nu-Trek films? I can see it not fitting with the original Trek series of course but I didn't feel it clashed with Abrams Trek. Perhaps just because I'm even less of a purist! :)
 
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Just curious: Does the tech not mesh with what we saw in the nu-Trek films? I can see it not fitting with the original Trek series of course but I didn't feel it clashed with Abrams Trek. Perhaps just because I'm even less of a purist! :)
It meshes much better with the reboot movies than it does with "The Cage," which is about when the show is set. To be clear, I would never expect a Star Trek show made in 2017 to look like a show made in 1965 (although it would be fun). But that's why setting it during that era is a bad idea. I just see no good reason why it was necessary. If they changed the Klingons to a never-before-seen alien species and made Michael's adoptive father another Vulcan (I do think a human raised by Vulcans is interesting and has potential), they could have set the show 50-100 years after Voyager and opened the story up to endless possibilities that weren't subject to continuity restraints.
 
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True, I wonder what was behind the decision not to do something post Voyager? General sense of it being safer to stick to territory and franchises an audience knows? Then again, if you don't do it right, as some are suggesting, you run into a whole other set of problems ultimately.
 
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