Scariff Stormtrooper Squad Leader

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Please use this thread to talk about the new Walmart Stormtrooper Squad Leader figure

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Thoughts on this figure? Who's going to be buying it?
 
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The more I see of this guy the more I want it, SA is a great bonus.
 
My preferred figure of the new imperial designs. I know that everyone loves the dwarf troopers but, to me they just don't feel like a star wars design. Too gi joe for my tastes.
 
Death troopers *.

Although I'm sure dwarf troopers would be loved by all as well.
 
Julythrunov said:
My preferred figure of the new imperial designs. I know that everyone loves the dwarf troopers but, to me they just don't feel like a star wars design. Too gi joe for my tastes.
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Have to admit I kinda feel the same way about all these new R1 troops. They're okay and all, and agree that this one looks like it fits the most. But to me they seem like they're put in there for the sake of it. They aren't really performing any tasks that can't be filled by any one of the original established trooper variants now.
 
I agree...I like the design...but much like the tie striker, this trooper along with the others feels shoe horned in for the sake of "new". Another example of film makers not respecting the viewer and trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

"Dat look shiny and new!"
 
And before anyone says it...NO I don't feel like a film like rogue ones needs new troopers designed for the film. I can accept the u-wing but that's about it as far as new designs exclusive to this story.
 
To clarify, since the rebels were less organized and on the run I can accept the rebellion having variations on their outfits. I can also accept stormtroopers having different equipment on their ALREADY existing uniforms. But because the stormtrooper is the standard look for the empire and these troops all appear to be doing the same job (unlike tie pilots or biker scouts or at at drivers etc) I take issue with all these new designs.
 
Julythrunov said:
To clarify, since the rebels were less organized and on the run I can accept the rebellion having variations on their outfits. I can also accept stormtroopers having different equipment on their ALREADY existing uniforms. But because the stormtrooper is the standard look for the empire and these troops all appear to be doing the same job (unlike tie pilots or biker scouts or at at drivers etc) I take issue with all these new designs.
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I like this figure. Liked it when I first saw the design; like it even more now. I'll gladly pick one up (if/when I can find him)...

*Remember: Merchandising is what the SW film series was built on; if there weren't any new trooper designs or alien species to immortalize in plastic, we wouldn't be experiencing the saga as long as we have. (The original SW (EpIV) wouldn't apply to this concept, but as the SW universe expanded in TESB, ROTJ, and then the prequels & TFA, visual interest was created with a plethora of variations on troopers, aliens, and even Jedi.)
 
FOr my part, i gladly accept all those new designs. I hear the "They were nowhere to be seen in the OT" argument. I'm well aware it as more to do with marketing than it has to add depth to the Star Wars universe. This being said, i'm still glad they are not sticking to original designs only.
To me, it does make sense the Empire would have more specific designs knowing they are reigning on a whole star system. It also make sense as a transition from the PT era that did bring quite a few designs and color schemes to the table. One way to look at it if you ask me. The Empire could still be in the process to unify their troop designs and those colorful troops are still part of the Republic Army legacy.
 
I get that. That's the point, that these designs very glaringly serve the merchandise not the story IMO.
 
TK_842 said:
FOr my part, i gladly accept all those new designs. I hear the "They were nowhere to be seen in the OT" argument. I'm well aware it as more to do with marketing than it has to add depth to the Star Wars universe. This being said, i'm still glad they are not sticking to original designs only.
To me, it does make sense the Empire would have more specific designs knowing they are reigning on a whole star system. It also make sense as a transition from the PT era that did bring quite a few designs and color schemes to the table. One way to look at it if you ask me. The Empire could still be in the process to unify their troop designs and those colorful troops are still part of the Republic Army legacy.
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well, one thing I've always enjoyed about the stormtroopers is, they symbolize the empire. It's almost like a brand image. You see that skeleton armor and you know it's them. It's iconic. It would be like Mercedes Benz getting 3 or 4 new hood ornaments because they make vehicles for different terrain.

Again, alterations to the existing outfit, for various environments? I'm all for it.
 
Julythrunov said:
And before anyone says it...NO I don't feel like a film like rogue ones needs new troopers designed for the film. I can accept the u-wing but that's about it as far as new designs exclusive to this story.
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SCUBA Troopers would be cool. And they'd make sense. As would others suited for other potential environments.

But "Shore" troopers for a beach? Just send either Sandtroopers or regular Stormies. Yeesh! I mean what specialised characteristics do they need? Waterproof boots? Fishing net? Coconut opener?
 
Julythrunov said:
well, one thing I've always enjoyed about the stormtroopers is, they symbolize the empire. It's almost like a brand image. You see that skeleton armor and you know it's them. It's iconic. It would be like Mercedes Benz getting 3 or 4 new hood ornaments because they make vehicles for different terrain.

Again, alterations to the existing outfit, for various environments? I'm all for it.
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Agreed. I've also always wanted to see a cool underwater armored stormtrooper, with a unique design. Hopefully we'll see something like this in a future film (either set during the OT films or post-ROTJ).

Back in the late '80's, West End Games (which produced a lot of role-playing adventures/sourcebooks for Star Wars) did have an aquatic SW adventure - the cover of this volume showed a Scout Trooper wearing a breath-mask underwater. I always thought this was fairly uninmaginative - i.e., it would have been cooler to have seen a unique underwater armored trooper, instead of just a re-hash of what we had seen in ROTJ:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_for_the_Golden_Sun
 
There's a SCUBA clone trooper, it's pretty close. Don't know if we will ever get a Stormtrooper version. But then ziI would have not thought we would get a ground crew figure.
 
Yeah the Clone SCUBAs were certainly inspired by the Aquatic Assault Stormtroopers from the role-playing game.

ThallJoben said:
Back in the late '80's, West End Games (which produced a lot of role-playing adventures/sourcebooks for Star Wars) did have an aquatic SW adventure - the cover of this volume showed a Scout Trooper wearing a breath-mask underwater. I always thought this was fairly uninmaginative - i.e., it would have been cooler to have seen a unique underwater armored trooper, instead of just a re-hash of what we had seen in ROTJ:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_for_the_Golden_Sun
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I always liked them. I didn't mind them being modelled on scouts as it showed the tendency in the movies for organisations to adapt equipment they already had to suit. AT-AT drivers use modified TIE pilot armour and helmets, which in turn are based on regular Stormtrooper helmets.

These "shore" troopers look somewhere inbetween OT scouts and ROTS Kashyyyk troopers, so they are the most familiar out of the new designs, I just don't think their existence can be justified from a logical (in-movie) standpoint. While a dedicated underwater trooper, whether it was a brand new design or not, could be.
 
Scarif is the military HQ of the Empire. so it stands to reason that it might be protected by a special ops branch of troopers, which I assume these Scarif troopers are, since they are unique to this planet.
 
The TFA art book showed a wreckage strewn water planet (there was something about retrieving something from the remains of the Emperors throne room or something) so had they run with that idea we might have seen some aquatic troopers.
I didn't read the book or pay much attention to the non-alien pictures so there might be something in there.

Who knows, they might be used at Act2 in e8.
 
My main issue with them is that their gear, armor and body glove is really too far ahead in time as its clear they more match the FO Stormtrooper or act more as an intermediary late war design rather than the actual pre-OT where their design should perhaps be more intermediate between late Republic Clone Trooper and Imperial Stormtrooper
 
Julythrunov said:
I agree...I like the design...but much like the tie striker, this trooper along with the others feels shoe horned in for the sake of "new". Another example of film makers not respecting the viewer and trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

"Dat look shiny and new!"
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I feel very much the same way What we had in the OT would have been fine for this film as well. I also understand that whole marketing aspect and why they do stuff like this, whether it's necessary or not.

That said, I really like this design and would like to build a small squad of them.
 
I kind of agree with the comment regarding FO, depending on how many I'm able to army build on these troops I may and what comes out in the next 2 movies (related to TFA) I may just use these guys to supplement my FO troops.
 
Like the design and I'm really excited to get a Black Series version of the figure. My only nitpick is why the Squad Leader? Why not release the basic trooper without the orange bicep? If we want a squad leader, we can break out an orange Sharpie. Plus, the "Scarif Stormtrooper Squad Leader" that comes in the 2-pack with Moroff has a longer kama and no ammo belt. So who's the real squad leader, eh? :)

And talk about why these "Shoretroopers" exist got me thinking. Doesn't that image of the Stormtroopers plodding through the surf look odd? I mean, it shouldn't, Stormtroopers raid anytime & anywhere, but it just looks odd. Maybe it's the vacation photo look. But you get these guys wearing almost 'trooper armor but with trousers and it works for me.
 
Glad to see this guy is sportin' his breast cancer awareness colors :rolleyes: Really, that's the only problem I have with the Scarif Trooper design, the gaudy blues and pinks just don't scream merchant of death to me.
 
I'm a little unsure, but I think this figure as-pictured is actually a basic Scariff Stormtrooper. In the costume sneak-preview event, all of them have the red right bicep and white stripe on their left shoulder. Of the 3 pictured, two have blue shoulders: one has blue chest armor (similar to the AT-ACT pack-in figure) but short kama, and one has a long kama with a blue stripe on its chest (like the 2-pack Moroff figure). Anyway, whatever they call this Black Series figure, it seems like a good base for the Trooper. I'll be buying a few, as they seem to be the ANH Sandtrooper of this movie.
 
Yes, thanks for posting. This clears up a lot. I don't really mind which version they give us, I'll still army build this figure, if I get the chance.
 
I am getting really hyped for these guys for some reason. I think they fit perfectly between the ARC quad gunner from Clone wars and the Scout Trooper from the OT, really like the 1970s color scheme that looks so original Star Wars.
 
I watched a Hasbro interview this morning, and I thought they were saying the basic private or grunt figure was the Walmart exclusive, I guess I will have to rewatch that video .
 
I do like the look of these. Its hard not to like all the different clone and stormtrooper looks. But I too stuggle a bit with why here in Rogue One? I'm hoping the movie gives us a reason why and not just to be a merchandise gimmick.
 
We've never had a movie set on an Imperial controlled tropical or water based planet before, so no reason to see troopers specifically outfitted for those environments. A part of it is cynically just to have something new, sure. But I really like the Shoretrooper design and I think it fits in very nicely with the OT era.

It's odd that the boxed pictures and descriptions we've seen so far of the 3.75 SA Shoretrooper say it's a Squad Leader, but the figure shown is a standard trooper. The Walmart exclusive 6" figure is the regular trooper so maybe it's a mix up or just a temporary prelim pic. I would prefer the 3.75" to be a regular trooper as well to army build, but I do really like the squad leader and will still try to buy a few. Wish we were getting all three variants.
 
starwarsguy said:
That looks like the 6 inch version. You can see the plastic joint pegs on his legs.
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No, this is the 3.75" figure. The 6" figure has double jointed knees, which this one does not.


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lordtyrannus said:
No, this is the 3.75" figure. The 6" figure has double jointed knees, which this one does not.


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Sorry, I see the double pegs in the legs. You were correct; this is the 6" version.


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