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Please use this thread to discuss the newly packaged Sabine Wren figure. This figure was released previously in the Black Series line red packaging but will be seeing a return in the new 2020 packaging.




Anyone picking up this release?
 
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Mine arrived today. I bought it because, while I liked the figure, the eyes on my old one were wonky.

The new one looks much better. I'm glad I upgraded. Oddly, the helmet doesn't hit over her head. On the previous release it fit perfectly - in fact I thought it was the best fitting helmet they had ever done. I'm interested to know if other people experience this problem.

In the end, I suppose, it doesn't matter since I still have the old the can now be the helmet wearing figure (forever hiding those wonky eyes).
 
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How in the world does the helmet not fit...hopefully yours was just a bad batch
 
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It was 104 outside today, and I just picked up off the porch and opened it, so the plastic was still warm and pliable, and I still couldn't get it on.
 
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The new one looks much better. I'm glad I upgraded. Oddly, the helmet doesn't hit over her head. On the previous release it fit perfectly - in fact I thought it was the best fitting helmet they had ever done. I'm interested to know if other people experience this problem.
Mine arrived yesterday, along with Kanan. I had ordered from Amazon. Her helmet fits just fine on mine, but there is an issue with the paint job on her hair where the purple leaks on to the orange. That annoys me and I can't NOT notice it every time I look at the figure. So I'm going to keep the helmet ON this one and try to purchase another one with a better paint job on the hair. Sabine would not approve of that sloppy paint job! ;)

I also had an issue with the 40th Anniversary Lando - the ball and socket joint on his left heel was almost completely off when I opened up the package making him unable to stand properly. Like the leak on the paint job in Sabine's hair, I hate little screw ups like that!
 

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The helmet on my old Sabine was too tight of a fit. I tried to put it on once and halfway through the struggle, i realized that getting it off was gonna be even trickier, so I just left it off ever since.
 
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My original Sabine's helmet fit very well. It was my Cmd Wolffe that was annoying. His head came off every time I tried removing the helmet.
 
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Oh boy I didn't need to hear that after the trouble I went trough to get him. lol
I haven't taken him out of package yet because I don't have a display case for TBS figures yet, so I haven't had the chance to play around with him.
 
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My Sabine arrived from Amazon yesterday (actually mint too!), and the helmet is a VERY tight fit as well. I'm debating whether to just leave it on or off. I have a feeling if I leave it on, at some point it will never come off.
 
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My Sabine arrived from Amazon yesterday (actually mint too!), and the helmet is a VERY tight fit as well. I'm debating whether to just leave it on or off. I have a feeling if I leave it on, at some point it will never come off.
Do you think there's a risk of wearing off the paint apps?
 
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My Sabine has a super tight helmet as well, but my original one (which I sold) was the same way.

The paint in this one is a huge improvement over the original. The face is better, but the paint all over the body is much cleaner and sharper too.
 
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Helmet on my original Sabine fits just fine. I have this new one on order with the rest of the crew although I'll be keeping this lot MIB and displayed together with the connected artwork on the side
 
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Off topic question...I've watched the entire Rebels series but I can't remember...did they ever give a reason as to why Sabine (and the other Mandalorians in the series) can remove their helmets in front of non-family members?
 
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Off topic question...I've watched the entire Rebels series but I can't remember...did they ever give a reason as to why Sabine (and the other Mandalorians in the series) can remove their helmets in front of non-family members?
No -- as far as I am aware, there has been no reason given why the clan in The Mandalorian follow that strict rule when the Mandalorian characters in The Clone Wars and Rebels (including people from Death Watch) didn't hesitate to take their helmets off.

I've been assuming that it's something to do with the order following a stricter code while in exile and in the wake of whatever happened to drive them there. Since Filoni has been one of the people in charge of all three shows, I assume he has an answer and will dole it out in due time. (Now, whether that answer will be satisfying is up to personal perspective. At this point, I trust his storytelling instincts...but I know others do not.)
 
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For The Mandalorian "mandalorians": There is a possibility that not knowing your "friends'" faces in case of capture etc, then you can't point them out either. I get the feeling they are being extremely cautious because they have been driven to the brink of extinction and thus also taking in "foundlings" to boost their numbers.
Why it is this harsh, I don't know - were the real Mandalorians such a threat being the warrior culture they were, that the Empire felt the need to purge them all? Seems a bit wild, but then again, our own world have a similar history in the 1940s.
It's all speculations on my part and not necessarily cannon.
 
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I display the original Sabine with helmet on, so maybe I'll just display this one with helmet off.

If I can readjust my shelf space, that is. :)
 
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For The Mandalorian "mandalorians": There is a possibility that not knowing your "friends'" faces in case of capture etc, then you can't point them out either. I get the feeling they are being extremely cautious because they have been driven to the brink of extinction and thus also taking in "foundlings" to boost their numbers.
Why it is this harsh, I don't know - were the real Mandalorians such a threat being the warrior culture they were, that the Empire felt the need to purge them all? Seems a bit wild, but then again, our own world have a similar history in the 1940s.
It's all speculations on my part and not necessarily cannon.
"Crushing local opposition" seems to be pretty standard practice for the Empire. I think it tracks that they would want to remove any threats from the well-known warrior clans.

I like the idea of anonymity as a security measure; it's like every individual Mando is working as their own independent cell. I had assume that it was a case of people getting more orthodox in the implementation of their belief system after experiencing a diaspora...but there's no confirmation of that idea. Not yet, anyway.

I display the original Sabine with helmet on, so maybe I'll just display this one with helmet off.

If I can readjust my shelf space, that is. :)
This is how I talked myself into getting the new one: she could have her helmet off with the Rebels crew, and I could have helmet-on Sabine with other Mandalorian-armored characters in another display. (I still haven't figured out the excuse for also ordering upgrades of Kanan, Hera, and Ahsoka...but I have time to work that out.)
 
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I think it also might stem from the whole thing with Star face time in movies where they have to constantly take off the helmet/mask, sucha s Iron Man, Spider-Man etc. This could be just one of those instances where they are making a statement about not needing to remove a character's face covering every 20 minutes.

Or it could be any reason stated above, or all of them.
 
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This is how I talked myself into getting the new one: she could have her helmet off with the Rebels crew, and I could have helmet-on Sabine with other Mandalorian-armored characters in another display. (I still haven't figured out the excuse for also ordering upgrades of Kanan, Hera, and Ahsoka...but I have time to work that out.)
Haha, I chose to blame quarantine cabin fever! 😜 🤪 :ROFLMAO::p
 
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I just picked up Sabine (and Ezra) at my local Gamestop for $18.49 each on sale! Total with tax for the two was $38.99.
 
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I think it also might stem from the whole thing with Star face time in movies where they have to constantly take off the helmet/mask, sucha s Iron Man, Spider-Man etc.
This used to drive me UP THE WALL in the old Spiderman trilogy and then with Wolverine never wearing a mask. I'm so glad they eventually figured out people aren't just buying tickets because of the actor.
 
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Very nice figure. Had to return the first one amazon sent me due to stuck elbow joints thou.


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I've been assuming that it's something to do with the order following a stricter code while in exile and in the wake of whatever happened to drive them there. Since Filoni has been one of the people in charge of all three shows, I assume he has an answer and will dole it out in due time. (Now, whether that answer will be satisfying is up to personal perspective. At this point, I trust his storytelling instincts...but I know others do not.)
I think that The Mandalorian is really Favreau's project, since it seems to exist in a completely separate continuity than Filoni's shows (Filoni's Mandos frequently and casually interact with Force-users, whereas in the live-action series, the Force is a total unknown and the Jedi seem to be a distant ancestral memory). I don't think that the two can really be reconciled and despite this talk of Filoni's orange waifu making a guest appearance in Season 2, I really hope that they don't try; it'll just be a mess.

I get the feeling they are being extremely cautious because they have been driven to the brink of extinction and thus also taking in "foundlings" to boost their numbers.
They're shown adopting the newly-orphaned Din Djaren prior to the end of the Clone Wars and the rise of the Empire, though.

Why it is this harsh, I don't know - were the real Mandalorians such a threat being the warrior culture they were, that the Empire felt the need to purge them all? Seems a bit wild, but then again, our own world have a similar history in the 1940s.
The foundational idea behind the Mandalorians from day one has been the concept of a group of hyper-elite soldiers; "Shocktroopers" or "Supercommandos" were the original terms before "Mandalorians" was eventually settled on, and they've always been depicted as being able to punch far, far above their weight-limit in combat (almost conquering the old Republic at one point despite a five-to-one numerical disadvantage in soldiers and starships), so it seems like trying to wipe them out would definitely be a priority for the nascent Imperial order.
 
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I think that The Mandalorian is really Favreau's project, since it seems to exist in a completely separate continuity than Filoni's shows (Filoni's Mandos frequently and casually interact with Force-users, whereas in the live-action series, the Force is a total unknown and the Jedi seem to be a distant ancestral memory). I don't think that the two can really be reconciled and despite this talk of Filoni's orange waifu making a guest appearance in Season 2, I really hope that they don't try; it'll just be a mess.
This stems from a Lucas problem more than anything else: the Jedi are depicted as ancient, almost lost history in the original movie. But since it evolved in the storytelling that 19-year-old Luke was the son of Darth Vader from the time before he fell and the Empire rose...then history got condensed really fast. So Mando and Kuill don't know about the Force in much the same way that Luke didn't know about it. And the same as Rey thinks Luke Skywalker is only a legend -- though both were prominent just 20-30 years in the past.

This irked me about Star Wars once the prequels were coming out and I thought it was very unrealistic. Then a few years ago I tried to explain dial-up internet to a room full of teenagers...and I started to understand how much things can get lost in just a couple of decades.

(As for the complaints that Ahsoka is coming into the picture...condolences to those who don't like her, but it makes sense. The end of season 1 was Mando and the Child heading off to find the Child's people. Given that we only know about four canon Force users alive during the show, and that three of them are Luke (unsure if a de-aged Hamill will show up and no one else would be welcome), Leia (RIP Carrie), and a four year old Ben Solo...Ahsoka wins.)

((edit: Although there is a fifth possible Force user in play, but his presence is dependent on the as-of-yet unseen adventures of Ahsoka and...Sabine. Back on topic!))
 
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This stems from a Lucas problem more than anything else: the Jedi are depicted as ancient, almost lost history in the original movie. But since it evolved in the storytelling that 19-year-old Luke was the son of Darth Vader from the time before he fell and the Empire rose...then history got condensed really fast.
Eh, not really. It was established from the get-go that Luke's father was a contemporary of Vader, who himself had been young when he helped destroy the Jedi order. Lucas did somewhat condense the timeline later on, but not by all that much, comparatively.

So Mando and Kuill don't know about the Force in much the same way that Luke didn't know about it. And the same as Rey thinks Luke Skywalker is only a legend -- though both were prominent just 20-30 years in the past.
It does seem to literally be a thing out of the distant past as far as the Mandalorians in the show are concerned, given the following statement from the forge priestess: "The songs of eons past tell of battles between Mandalore The Great, and an order of sorcerers called Jedi that fought with such powers.”

This irked me about Star Wars once the prequels were coming out and I thought it was very unrealistic. Then a few years ago I tried to explain dial-up internet to a room full of teenagers...and I started to understand how much things can get lost in just a couple of decades.
LOL

I feel your pain...

As for the complaints that Ahsoka is coming into the picture...condolences to those who don't like her, but it makes sense.
Nothing about that character makes sense. More generally, though, The Mandalorian has already proven it can stand on its own, with its own original characters. The last thing it needs is for its square peg to be sledgehammered into the round hole that is Dave Filoni's ongoing Life and Adventures of Ahsoka Tano fan-fic.
 
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Thanks for all of the input gang. I'm loving reading your takes on the whole thing. Sadly, I'm one of those people who don't like Ahsoka, and I hate that they try to shoe-horn her into everything now. However, I know she's popular and people love her, so I just endure her and not start arguments LOL. Long story short, I've found her incredibly annoying from Day 1 and Anakin should never have had a padawan.

ClanVizsla, I have also always had somewhat of an issue with how history is so condensed. For example, the big bad Clone Wars that Obi-Wan speaks of in A New Hope as being long and ravaging and pretty much decimated the galaxy, lasted all of .....three years. A lot can happen in three years, I get it, but something as big and history-changing as the Clone Wars should maybe have been a bit longer. Like maybe start them at the end of Phantom Menace and then see where it goes. I don't know.
 
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Nothing about that character makes sense. More generally, though, The Mandalorian has already proven it can stand on its own, with its own original characters. The last thing it needs is for its square peg to be sledgehammered into the round hole that is Dave Filoni's ongoing Life and Adventures of Ahsoka Tano fan-fic.
OMG THANK YOU! Someone else who sees it the way I do haha.
 
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It does seem to literally be a thing out of the distant past as far as the Mandalorians in the show are concerned, given the following statement from the forge priestess: "The songs of eons past tell of battles between Mandalore The Great, and an order of sorcerers called Jedi that fought with such powers.”
Which seems to be taken right out of EU's KotOR set some 4000 years prior, yet Jedi are a household name for generation up until post ROTS through Empire's reign.
I don't know how they could pull off such a disconnect, because from what I've heard/read, everything in TCW is Canon for Mandalorian society and history. The only way i can see this new sect having no knowledge of Jedi would be if none of hem are true Mandalorians, or related to any of the ones from event in TCW or Rebels.

And I still find it a bit odd that no one has heard of Jedi even after one was responsible for assisting in the fall the Empire, seems to me news like that would travel.
 
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Thanks for all of the input gang. I'm loving reading your takes on the whole thing. Sadly, I'm one of those people who don't like Ahsoka, and I hate that they try to shoe-horn her into everything now.
Her and Rex. Dave Filoni is such a greasy rat, trying to retcon Nik Sant into being his Clone Trooper OC...

Long story short, I've found her incredibly annoying from Day 1 and Anakin should never have had a padawan.
LOL I think I've found my soul-mate... 😅

Ahsoka is indeed incredibly annoying, and her irritating personality is compounded by Filoni constantly giving her unearned victories (really, any one of the adult characters that she dueled with over the course of the series should have easily killed her), such as allowing her to take out Droidekas, which are presented, in the movies, as such a threat that the Jedi run away when they encounter them rather than stand and fight, but the worst of it is that, as I understand it, Lucas had intended for Ahsoka to die at some point over the course of the series so as to add more weight to Anakin's personality conflicts in Revenge of the Sith, but Filoni apparently took advantage of the fact that Lucas was no longer in control of the SW brand at that point to have her survive not only the Clone Wars but the ensuing Jedi Purge. That would be bad enough of itself, but he then retconned a perfectly good death for her at Vader's hands by introducing actual, honest-to-God time-travel to the SW universe in Rebels and now it seems like he actually wants her to literally live forever, as he allegedly lobbied against her being one of the disembodied voices of deceased Jedi heroes speaking to Rey in The Rise of Skywalker and has been seen on Twitter directly comparing Ahsoka to J.R.R. Tolkien's immortal wizard Gandalf, who influenced the course of events in Middle-Earth for thousands of years:

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ClanVizsla , I have also always had somewhat of an issue with how history is so condensed. For example, the big bad Clone Wars that Obi-Wan speaks of in A New Hope as being long and ravaging and pretty much decimated the galaxy, lasted all of .....three years. A lot can happen in three years, I get it, but something as big and history-changing as the Clone Wars should maybe have been a bit longer. Like maybe start them at the end of Phantom Menace and then see where it goes. I don't know.
I think that you're probably right, and that the reason that the Clone Wars ended up the way it did was because of two objectives Lucas had, if I recall correctly: First, he wanted to introduce Anakin Skywalker as an innocent and good-natured child without even a hint of a dark sid, and secondly, he wanted to show the pre-Imperial galaxy in a state of peace (mostly). Unfortunately, that meant that he had to jump ten years between the first and second Prequel films to age Anakin up to the point where he was old enough and experienced enough to be a credible lightsaber combatant and romantic interest for Padme (which I believe created the additional problem of making the onscreen interactions between Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman more awkward; Anakin wouldn't have seemed so weird and vaguely creepy if he and Padme had first met as young adults, and then been separated for a couple of years, rather than as a 9 and 14-year-old who were then apart from each other for a full decade).

OMG THANK YOU! Someone else who sees it the way I do haha.
My pleasure LOL

Which seems to be taken right out of EU's KotOR set some 4000 years prior, yet Jedi are a household name for generation up until post ROTS through Empire's reign.
I don't know how they could pull off such a disconnect, because from what I've heard/read, everything in TCW is Canon for Mandalorian society and history. The only way i can see this new sect having no knowledge of Jedi would be if none of hem are true Mandalorians, or related to any of the ones from event in TCW or Rebels.
You would think so, but that doesn't appear to be the case, since our hero apparently has some direct connection to the Mandalorian homeworld around the end of the Clone Wars, and yet he's apparently never heard of the Jedi or the Force before. :unsure:

And I still find it a bit odd that no one has heard of Jedi even after one was responsible for assisting in the fall the Empire, seems to me news like that would travel.
Especially since the Rebels eventually start making a point of using "May the Force be with you" as a standard farewell, though the disconnect there there may be the result of The Mandalorian having to work with Disney's post-ROTJ continuity, which apparently sees Luke training only a small number of students before his nephew runs off and all the rest get killed somehow, and then Luke goes into exile and becomes a "legend" that most of the galaxy's inhabitants, if I recall correctly, don't believe actually exists.
 
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Her and Rex. Dave Filoni is such a greasy rat, trying to retcon Nik Sant into being his Clone Trooper OC...
100% accurate.

LOL I think I've found my soul-mate... 😅
Glad to be of service haha.

Ahsoka is indeed incredibly annoying, and her irritating personality is compounded by Filoni constantly giving her unearned victories (really, any one of the adult characters that she dueled with over the course of the series should have easily killed her), such as allowing her to take out Droidekas, which are presented, in the movies, as such a threat that the Jedi run away when they encounter them rather than stand and fight, but the worst of it is that, as I understand it, Lucas had intended for Ahsoka to die at some point over the course of the series so as to add more weight to Anakin's personality conflicts in Revenge of the Sith, but Filoni apparently took advantage of the fact that Lucas was no longer in control of the SW brand at that point to have her survive not only the Clone Wars but the ensuing Jedi Purge. That would be bad enough of itself, but he then retconned a perfectly good death for her at Vader's hands by introducing actual, honest-to-God time-travel to the SW universe in Rebels and now it seems like he actually wants her to literally live forever, as he allegedly lobbied against her being one of the disembodied voices of deceased Jedi heroes speaking to Rey in The Rise of Skywalker and has been seen on Twitter directly comparing Ahsoka to J.R.R. Tolkien's immortal wizard Gandalf, who influenced the course of events in Middle-Earth for thousands of years:
Oh HELL NO, she shouldn't even be in the same company as ANYONE in Lord of the Rings. Also, since I'm a woman, I kinda hate the term "Mary Sue". Buuuuuut.....Ahsoka is the quintessential Mary Sue LMAO. I HATED the fact that she beat Grievous (and had to save Luminara in the process...I mean come on). Honestly, I think Rey is one too, but Ahsoka is much worse. She was how old when she came on the scene? 10? 12? I don't remember. But she was painted as a smart-mouthed brat who was able to do anything and basically disrespected Anakin (Skyguy?? Barf) and the other Jedi by thinking she was better than all of them.

And Rex...yeah. That's another one that's annoying. When Ahsoka got her own squadron of troops with the painted helmets I was done.
 
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Actually no. While he himself prefers the Idea of Rex being Sant, he didn't canonize it to leave it up to the audience. Because he is just that nice. Carry on.
LOL

The contention is that it's "100% accurate" that Dave Filoni is a greasy rat, not that he declared ex cathedral that Rex had subsumed Nik on Endor, though Filoni is apparently still trying to backdoor the idea into the current continuity via the "Galaxy of Adventures" shorts:

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LOL

The contention is that it's "100% accurate" that Dave Filoni is a greasy rat, not that he declared ex cathedral that Rex had subsumed Nik on Endor, though Filoni is apparently still trying to backdoor the idea into the current continuity via the "Galaxy of Adventures" shorts:

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What is ex cathedral? Did you mean ex cathedra and it was autocorrected?
 
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100% accurate.
Sadly. I just hope Favreau is up to the task of 'tard wrangling him on The Mandalorian.

Glad to be of service haha.
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Oh HELL NO, she shouldn't even be in the same company as ANYONE in Lord of the Rings.
Filoni is a very strange person. He also has this weird fixation on wolves, introducing oversized alien wolves as some sort physical manifestation of the spirits of deceased Jedi in Rebels, created a Clone Commander named Wolffe who leads a unite called the "Wolf Pack," made minor OT character Wulff Yularen a major non-Clone member of the Republic military, wears a wolf patch on his jacket, decorates his cowboy hat with a wolf pin, cameo'd as an X-Wing pilot with the call-sign "Trapper Wolf" in The Mandalorian, and was planning to introduce a love interest for Ahsoka named "Nyx Okami," a Greek/Japanese combo that translates into English as, more or less, "Night Wolf."

Also, since I'm a woman, I kinda hate the term "Mary Sue".
Interesting. Why is that? I know that "Mary Sue" was a term popularized by a female Star Trek fan making fun of badly-written self-insert fics by other female Trekkies where the protagonist is improbably perfect and loved by everyone for no particular reason.

.....Ahsoka is the quintessential Mary Sue LMAO. I HATED the fact that she beat Grievous (and had to save Luminara in the process...I mean come on). Honestly, I think Rey is one too, but Ahsoka is much worse. She was how old when she came on the scene? 10? 12? I don't remember. But she was painted as a smart-mouthed brat who was able to do anything and basically disrespected Anakin (Skyguy?? Barf) and the other Jedi by thinking she was better than all of them.
Yeah, just about the only thing in The Clone Wars more egregious than Ahsoka's plot-armor is the extent to which poor old Grievous is used as everyone's punching bag.

And Rex...yeah. That's another one that's annoying. When Ahsoka got her own squadron of troops with the painted helmets I was done.
I didn't even bother to watch any of the Series 7 episodes, but...didn't Ahsoka leave the Jedi Order? What's she doing in command of a Republic military unit?

What is ex cathedral? Did you mean ex cathedra and it was autocorrected?
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I didn't even bother to watch any of the Series 7 episodes, but...didn't Ahsoka leave the Jedi Order? What's she doing in command of a Republic military unit?
Anakin and Obi are heading out on the mission to free Palpatine from Grevious. For some reason that I can't remember they get Ahsoka to go to Mandalore to handle the Maul business.

I might have forgotten a lot of details, but let's call it "a long story short..." :)
 
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To be fair Grievous was everyone’s punching bag in ROTS, his first and only film. The only time he wasn’t a complete joke was in the comics and the first Clone Wars series.

Also I think Favreau provides a good tempering influence to rein in Filoni. The Mandalorian is proof of this and I think Season 2 will be similar, can’t imagine Filoni will suddenly have more influence than Favreau. Lucas needed to be reined in as well so it’s fitting that his protege is similar.
 
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