Rumoured Cantina 4 Pack

How many Duros are in the cantina? There's clearly two talking to each other- Ellors Madak (made, spacesuit material) and Baniss Keeg (unmade, obi wan robes).
Is there a third? The guide I'm seeing says there is one in the very back near the Tonnika's in the alcove with Elis Helrot, Feltipern and M'iiyoom but it doesn't give a name or picture of it.
 
How many Duros are in the cantina? There's clearly two talking to each other- Ellors Madak (made, spacesuit material) and Baniss Keeg (unmade, obi wan robes).
Is there a third? The guide I'm seeing says there is one in the very back near the Tonnika's in the alcove with Elis Helrot, Feltipern and M'iiyoom but it doesn't give a name or picture of it.
idr if he has a name off the top of my head but he's wearing the white jacket that Arliel was wearing iirc
 
One can be seen in the far alcove behind Greedo when he's talking to Han. In behind the scene photos, the Duros is wearing a white jacket and appears to be sitting with Myo.
How many Duros are in the cantina? There's clearly two talking to each other- Ellors Madak (made, spacesuit material) and Baniss Keeg (unmade, obi wan robes).
Is there a third? The guide I'm seeing says there is one in the very back near the Tonnika's in the alcove with Elis Helrot, Feltipern and M'iiyoom but it doesn't give a name or picture of it.
 
One can be seen in the far alcove behind Greedo when he's talking to Han. In behind the scene photos, the Duros is wearing a white jacket and appears to be sitting with Myo.
Yep that duro in the very back is wearing Arleil’s jacket - with Myo’s head to the back of us (poor Elis doesn’t actually appear on screen) a Gotal walks into frame (wearing M'iiyoom Onith‘s robes)
 
I looked through my usual sources and found a third Duros only mentioned once, no onscreen image, and no name. That's even less info than on the two "other Gotals" ("High Tundra" aka Hennet Kayn and Cobb Sonbepol ). I have the feeling we will not get a figure 😁
 
idr if he has a name off the top of my head but he's wearing the white jacket that Arliel was wearing iirc
Cool thank you everyone, I guess I will wait for when Arleil is released to make him.

When going through the photos I found another guy sitting with Debnoli:

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He's wearing a Ponda Baba type jacket which is brown/grey cream. When the camera pans back he switches into Takeel from the back but from the front he definitely appears. I don't think this guy has a name and I can't find much about him. I will make him soon.
 
Cool thank you everyone, I guess I will wait for when Arleil is released to make him.

When going through the photos I found another guy sitting with Debnoli:

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He's wearing a Ponda Baba type jacket which is brown/grey cream. When the camera pans back he switches into Takeel from the back but from the front he definitely appears. I don't think this guy has a name and I can't find much about him. I will make him soon.

Yeah, he's one of the more well-known unnamed characters, sometimes referred to as 'Corellian Pirate'. People typically use a ceremony Luke with a Willrow Hood head, at least they did before he got so expensive. I'm considering using one of the older, less-recognizable Lando heads.
 
When going through the photos I found another guy sitting with Debnoli:

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He's wearing a Ponda Baba type jacket which is brown/grey cream. When the camera pans back he switches into Takeel from the back but from the front he definitely appears. I don't think this guy has a name and I can't find much about him. I will make him soon.
That guy has been nicknamed "Corellian Pirate" since forever.
 
Too bad Kitik is the wrong color.

OK, got inspired to correct the color! Here is a comparison of the production figure and various pics of my repaint. I did a light dry brush of tan on the skirt, but it was mostly the green repaint with a dry brush of yellow and some light brown washes at the joints followed by a coating of Mod Podge that I think was pretty effective!

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Just your average acrylic cheap paint from the craft section of Walmart; I believe the mixture I did was one part forest green and one part orange to two parts yellow. But the mod podge finishing is really where that nice sheen developed.
 
Yeah, he's one of the more well-known unnamed characters, sometimes referred to as 'Corellian Pirate'. People typically use a ceremony Luke with a Willrow Hood head, at least they did before he got so expensive. I'm considering using one of the older, less-recognizable Lando heads.
I just use Biggs Darklighter with the legs from Ceremonial Luke so he can sit down.

Jason
 
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There are only two cups. If it ends up being just a two-pack, I’m going to lose it.
I didn't realize there was thread about this subject until today.

I made a video about this picture, and why I think it shows 3 characters.

Yes, there are 4 shadows (4 arms), but the 2 shadows on the left are a right and left arm (one character) and the 2 shadows on the right are both right arms (two characters). The hands/claws on the left look similar enough to me to still be one characters. What I have heard through the grapevine is that one character is "all new, never made," which Arleil Schous qualifies as, and at least one character is an update of a previously release figure -- not a "re-release."

Now, the shadow hand on the bottom right is definitely Arleil Schous. I compare the shadow to the action figures right hand from Haslab images.

I think the hands/claws on the left are Muftak. If it is 2 figures, then maybe Muftak and Kabe.

The last shadow in the upper right looks like a human hand wearing a glove. In the video, I guess Tawss Khaa or the Yellow Spacer (Cantina Dude), but someone suggested BoShek, which I think is more likely now that they've mentioned it.

One thing I do get wrong or forgot about when making the video is that Hasbro did release a Jabba's denizens 4-pack, but here lately, it seems like 4-packs are army builders and 3-packs are for individual figures; but hay, I hope I'm wrong.

So, if Hasbro follows the pattern like they did after shipping Jabba's sail barge and they release a 4-pack and a 3-pack, and maybe 3 single carded figures, here is my guess or what I'd like to see:

3-Pack (Sneak Peek "shadow" photo)
1. Arleil Schous
2. Muftak (maybe with Kabe - I know "technically" that would make this a 4-pack)
3. BoShek or Yellow Spacer

4-Pack Cantina humans
1. Swilla Corey
2. Rycar Ryjerd
3. Damono Deomaley
4. Yerka Mig

Single-carded figures
1. Ellors Madak
2. Atheloe or Ownellco (the Colonel)
3. Sai'torr Kal Fas (the Hrchek Kal Fas figure is inaccurate, so this would be a great update)

Jason
 
I'm not convinced the 2 arms on left are from same character. To me they look too far apart from each other when compared to the 2 right arms on the right. If those are not 2 distinct characters, then the left side character has to rather be wide or ideally should have shadow/silhouette of upper arms and shoulders as if leaning over the table. I feel as though the left side left arm could be a character sitting sideways or turned around a bit as if signaling a waiter/waitress or waving to an unseen character. To me, the 2 left side arms look wide enough that a 5th character could sit between them, albeit a smaller stature character. I also feel as though a duro or 2 could be included. 2 duros could explain the 2 chiral hands on the left. I also wouldn't put it past hasbro to distort the images as to make it harder to i.d. the hands
My guess on the i.d. of potential candidate.
Arleil, Duros, Tawass, for 3 and the 4th...either duros#2, tan robed Bith, or Atheloe
 
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I didn't realize there was thread about this subject until today.

I made a video about this picture, and why I think it shows 3 characters.

Yes, there are 4 shadows (4 arms), but the 2 shadows on the left are a right and left arm (one character) and the 2 shadows on the right are both right arms (two characters). The hands/claws on the left look similar enough to me to still be one characters. What I have heard through the grapevine is that one character is "all new, never made," which Arleil Schous qualifies as, and at least one character is an update of a previously release figure -- not a "re-release."

Now, the shadow hand on the bottom right is definitely Arleil Schous. I compare the shadow to the action figures right hand from Haslab images.

I think the hands/claws on the left are Muftak. If it is 2 figures, then maybe Muftak and Kabe.

The last shadow in the upper right looks like a human hand wearing a glove. In the video, I guess Tawss Khaa or the Yellow Spacer (Cantina Dude), but someone suggested BoShek, which I think is more likely now that they've mentioned it.

One thing I do get wrong or forgot about when making the video is that Hasbro did release a Jabba's denizens 4-pack, but here lately, it seems like 4-packs are army builders and 3-packs are for individual figures; but hay, I hope I'm wrong.

So, if Hasbro follows the pattern like they did after shipping Jabba's sail barge and they release a 4-pack and a 3-pack, and maybe 3 single carded figures, here is my guess or what I'd like to see:

3-Pack (Sneak Peek "shadow" photo)
1. Arleil Schous
2. Muftak (maybe with Kabe - I know "technically" that would make this a 4-pack)
3. BoShek or Yellow Spacer

4-Pack Cantina humans
1. Swilla Corey
2. Rycar Ryjerd
3. Damono Deomaley
4. Yerka Mig

Single-carded figures
1. Ellors Madak
2. Atheloe or Ownellco (the Colonel)
3. Sai'torr Kal Fas (the Hrchek Kal Fas figure is inaccurate, so this would be a great update)

Jason
100% in on this. Any list with Rycar and Yerka is exciting. It's like getting Taym and Velken... completely shocked and entirely welcomed.
 
I made a video about this picture, and why I think it shows 3 characters.

Yes, there are 4 shadows (4 arms), but the 2 shadows on the left are a right and left arm (one character) and the 2 shadows on the right are both right arms (two characters). The hands/claws on the left look similar enough to me to still be one characters. What I have heard through the grapevine is that one character is "all new, never made," which Arleil Schous qualifies as, and at least one character is an update of a previously release figure -- not a "re-release."
I actually thought this myself when I was analyzing the image shortly after its release. Could go either way, I suppose, but I can see how the shadows on the left could be the right and left arms of one character. Still hope it's a 4-pack though. We need to get those unmade cantina aliens (and notable humans) done and dusted within the next few years.
 
I actually thought this myself when I was analyzing the image shortly after its release. Could go either way, I suppose, but I can see how the shadows on the left could be the right and left arms of one character. Still hope it's a 4-pack though. We need to get those unmade cantina aliens (and notable humans) done and dusted within the next few years.
Most definitely! I certainly want more, not less Cantina figures. I just think that if it's 4 characters it's odd that the two on the left are a left and right arm and all four are not right arms, which would definitely mean four different figures.

I don't know that Hasbro will make all or even most of the human characters, but there's not really a whole lot of (unmade) aliens left for them to produce. Here is a more thorough list of my reasonable hopeful Cantina figures:

1. Tzizvvt (the Fly) - although he's barely seen, he's an interesting enough character to make
2. Reegesk (Rodent) - I'm not too hopeful here, but I could see her in a multi-pack
3. Garouf Lafoe - he seems important enough as a human character since he did snitch on Old Ben
4. Yerka Mig - he's prominent enough at the front of the cantina, plus they may be able to just reuse the Ponda Baba figure
5. Swilla Corey - could reuse Camie with a new head sculpt. I'd be surprised if they made Jenny though
6. Danz Borin (Spaceman) - if they issued one Spaceman with two different helmets, then customers could buy multiples to round out the Spacemen
7. Damono Deomaley - he's odd enough looking and is also kind of prominent at the front-side of the bar
8. Sai'torr Kal Fas - Hrchek Kal Fas wasn't exactly screen accurate. So, I hope they release a more accurate "Crocker"
9. Atheloe/Ownellco (the Colonel) - two for one here, also well-seen when Luke walks to the bar
10. Rycar Ryjerd - this guy is a must! Maybe even pack him in with an updated Kabe.
11. Dannik Jeriko - I could see Hasbro upgrading this character
12. Muftak - definitely needs an upgrade, plus he's a prominent Rick Baker alien
13. Djas Puhr - if Hasbro is listening, then fans have been begging for an upgrade
14. Labria - another figure desperately needing upgraded
15. Ellors Madak - they could use the same body for Ellors and the Spacemen
16. Yellow Spacer (Cantina dude) - if they make a new body, they could reuse it for...
17. BoShek - to me this is a no-brainer. It's not "if" but "when"

Now, let me point out some characters that I doubt Hasbro will ever make or re-make

1. Lak Sivrak - to me, this guy is so low on the list I doubt he ever sees a remake
2. extra Gotals - there are two other Gotals in the Cantina, but I doubt Hasbro ever makes them
3. Ketwol - Melas - probably never gonna get a re-make or even a "never-made" for Melas
4. Lirin Car'n - too easy to make a custom, probably not worth Hasbro's effort
5. Braconner Bakiska (Fu-Man Chu) - since this was a Trinto Duaba mask with whiskers and the fact that he's one of the most obscure characters, I just don't ever see this guy being made
6. Most of the humans - with the exception of who I've listed above, the only other humans that I can see Hasbro releasing, most likely in a 3-pack, are Jabba's Goons -- Boelo, Gela Yeens, Ront Byrnloo.

It would be nice if Hasbro gave more info on the sneak peek prior to Christmas. I'd like to see Cantina figures in the mix for the next two years. Don't be draggin' this out.

Jason
 
What's next? Interesting question; we've really been asking for a while now, but now that it's confirmed it's not actually over...

So what's stuff that's not so much speculative but has a level of evidence or clues to it?

Well, the new Sandtrooper could imply something; I'd say a Dewback is fairly possible.
The Sandtrooper on a single card, I'd venture to guess, is a promise. Now, will they do the different pauldron colors? I hope, but I don't know.
I recall something hinting heavily at Garindan, though I forget what, so I'd say he's probably coming.

Outside of those, unless I'm forgetting something here, I think it's all speculative. This set has been long rumored, though.
I think the most likely is still Labria. They updated two of the three from that cinema scene set. He's got to be on their radar.
I'd think BoShek and the Cantina Spacers would be more likely, as much of their tooling already exists.
I think one of the Duros is more likely than others, as I've said before; they didn't make a new Duros head for a random not-on-screen rebel pilot.
 
In order to get though all those seventeen characters with 4-pks alone annually we're looking at a minimum of four years. Which TBH, I don't expect to see any of them as solo main line releases anyway, but if a couple were Exclusives it would take even longer. I also don't think they would release cantina themed 4-pks back to back annually but likely intervals of every 2 or 3 years pushing it out to over a decade before most of those get released.

So personally I'd rather they release the up front needed ones from key scenes first and save the more obscure Tzizvvt types for later. And frankly, if they don't ever plan to offer Lak Sivrak I may just lose interest all together, he's one of the more interesting ones simply by not having "human legs". But if they were just going to retcon him anyway and go the Brutus route then maybe he's best left alone.
 
if they don't ever plan to offer Lak Sivrak I may just lose interest all together, he's one of the more interesting ones simply by not having "human legs". But if they were just going to retcon him anyway and go the Brutus route then maybe he's best left alone.
Dog-like legs would be nice but I wouldn't say no to a new Lak with regular pants and boots. We need him and (a new) Labria to complete that booth.

(And no, Ketwol never happened as far as I'm concerned 😄)
 
True, I supposed something is better than nothing. And if he's just sitting at the table anyway it probably doesn't really matter.
 
Ok Hasbro’s original plan for cantina aliens didn’t go as planned (I believe they expected to sell a lot more cantinas, & probably would have if not for other outside factors)

That being said there is no reason they can’t give us a multi figure pack or anything else 1-2 times a year for however long we continue to buy.

This also gives space to support any other subset of SW products like new media.
 
It would be great if every year there was a Hasbro Pulse 4-pack that had one updated cantina figure like Labria, one figure like the second Duros or non- band Bith or second Mosep that could use existing parts, one all new alien like the Fly, and one human like Yerka or Rycar. That would be so great and I would not complain about anything else they did with the line while that was happening!

There are five cantina alien species that have never been made, so one 4 pack for the next five years would give us 20 more characters. At that point, I'm not sure anyone could justifiably complain about their cantina being under populated.

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I don't think the humans without helmets have much chance at this point. The likely reason Hasbro did a couple of humans for the Jabba's goon set is because their faces are covered with interesting masks. Garouf Lafoe, Yerka Mig, Swilla Corey, etc. all have boring costumes and don't even look like sci-fi characters, so what's the draw for consumers, or even hardcore fans, outside of simply trying to own everyone that appeared on screen?
 
I don't think the humans without helmets have much chance at this point. The likely reason Hasbro did a couple of humans for the Jabba's goon set is because their faces are covered with interesting masks. Garouf Lafoe, Yerka Mig, Swilla Corey, etc. all have boring costumes and don't even look like sci-fi characters, so what's the draw for consumers, or even hardcore fans, outside of simply trying to own everyone that appeared on screen?
That is why I would put them in a four pack, and why I would make it a Pulse exclusive, so it wasn't lying around in Walmarts.
 
I don't think the humans without helmets have much chance at this point. The likely reason Hasbro did a couple of humans for the Jabba's goon set is because their faces are covered with interesting masks. Garouf Lafoe, Yerka Mig, Swilla Corey, etc. all have boring costumes and don't even look like sci-fi characters, so what's the draw for consumers, or even hardcore fans, outside of simply trying to own everyone that appeared on screen?
Speaking of Jabba goons, the only human left that I really want would be Fozec. Otherwise Aliens all the way starting with Shasa Tiel. I'd maybe also make an exception for the staff wielder just in from of Klaatu who stands off against Luke on the Barge. Since he'd be relatively easy to make with reuse. I'd be for Gauron Nas Tal simply to have another Trandoshan.

As for patrons I'd be okay with Swilla Corey being made but that'd ne my limit on humans. Yerka Mig I suppose would be fine if there's reuse to utilize, like Arleil's jacket repainted fine but I'm not campaigning for him. Nor would I likely do the same for Corey even though we do need more female representation in the line. I've got bigger fish I'm after.
 
The Haslab was orignally supposed to come with 2 more figures. I believe that this set will come with at least 1 all new figure, possible 2 and Arleil Schous.

What has the community come up with as a consensus on what 4 figures a recoiming with this set, based on the photo hint?
 
That is why I would put them in a four pack, and why I would make it a Pulse exclusive, so it wasn't lying around in Walmarts.
Putting four dull humans together would be fine for those that have zero interest (and good for those that genuinely want them), but hopefully they don't mix them with interesting new aliens that consistently maintain more widespread demand. In all reality, someone like Swilla Corey probably has very few supporters, if an online petition were put together, I doubt it would exceed a couple hundred people - she's no Tonnika. :p
 
Putting four dull humans together would be fine for those that have zero interest (and good for those that genuinely want them), but hopefully they don't mix them with interesting new aliens that consistently maintain more widespread demand.
You do realize your avatar is Sim Aloo, right? :)
 
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Speaking of Jabba goons, the only human left that I really want would be Fozec. Otherwise Aliens all the way starting with Shasa Tiel. I'd maybe also make an exception for the staff wielder just in from of Klaatu who stands off against Luke on the Barge. Since he'd be relatively easy to make with reuse. I'd be for Gauron Nas Tal simply to have another Trandoshan.

As for patrons I'd be okay with Swilla Corey being made but that'd ne my limit on humans. Yerka Mig I suppose would be fine if there's reuse to utilize, like Arleil's jacket repainted fine but I'm not campaigning for him. Nor would I likely do the same for Corey even though we do need more female representation in the line. I've got bigger fish I'm after.
TVC is doing a good job with female representation in my view, just look at some of the recent releases - I'm surprised that you think otherwise. When it comes to character selection for females, there are a lot of leads and other significant characters before a background bar patron should even be considered. General Leia from TFA should have a figure in TVC before the likes of Swilla Corey, lol.
 
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I’ve sometimes wondered if the teased image was simply created with four figures Hasbro had readily available, and not necessarily figures that are upcoming releases. It’s possible Hasbro used what they had lying around to create the image, such as Figrin D’an, since they did other photoshoots for the playset. My fear is if Arleil’s hand is in fact the one on the bottom right, he could’ve been used simply as a placeholder, and not necessarily indicative of him coming in the line.
 
You do realize your avatar is Sim Aloo, right? :)
Yes, a far more interesting looking costume than the three cantina humans that I mentioned. Plus, he's a Kenner 96er. There is a reason neither Kenner nor Hasbro ever made those background cantina humans, even in 5 POA. Nothing against anyone that wants them, I just don't think demand exists among a significant percentage of collectors. The costumes almost entirely look like disheveled Earth rags, lol - would that inspire purchases? :unsure:
 
TVC is doing a good job with female representation in my view, just look at some of the recent releases - I'm surprised that you think otherwise.
Yeah, "recent". But we still have a long way to go in the grand scheme and across all media. Frankly, if it weren't for newer media where more than half the cast is female we probably wouldn't have.

When it comes to character selection for females, there are a lot of leads and other significant characters before a background bar patron should even be considered. General Leia from TFA should have a figure in TVC before the likes of Swilla Corey, lol.
That is a tough call for me because of the simple fact I wholly reject the ST so that give the edge up on Swilla Corey over TFA Leia. As much as i like Leia I cannot canonize anything about her from the ST so it would indeed be a pass. Swilla at least would be cantina filler and offer great custom fodder. General Leia does not.
 
Yeah, "recent". But we still have a long way to go in the grand scheme and across all media. Frankly, if it weren't for newer media where more than half the cast is female we probably wouldn't have.


That is a tough call for me because of the simple fact I wholly reject the ST so that give the edge up on Swilla Corey over TFA Leia. As much as i like Leia I cannot canonize anything about her from the ST so it would indeed be a pass. Swilla at least would be cantina filler and offer great custom fodder. General Leia does not.
Are there females from the OT or PT that are desperately needed though? I know many want to see Mon Mothma in TVC, but I'm not seeing widespread fanfare for much else. Who am I forgetting? A female Jedi update or two perhaps, but no real clamoring from the community.

I'm not concerned with ST hate or personal canon, lol - there's no denying that more fans would obviously want a General Leia figure over a random (and nearly unseen) female in the cantina, whose name would probably have to be googled by most - let's at least stay in the realm of reality. And yes, you'd probably buy a Leia to customize, we all know you secretly buy them all. ;)
 
No not specific to any one era, there's some from each one though I'd have to go back and check my almanac for some of their names it's been so long. Of course many of my wants are EU and obscure so obviously I'm alone and not much "clamoring" for them. Serra Keto, Celeste Morne, Darth Maladi, Sian Jeisel, Vergere, Mother Talzin, Ursa Wren, Governor Pryce, Natasi Daala, Second Sister, Latara, Xi'an just to name a few.
 
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