Rumoured Cantina 4 Pack

Nicklab said:
Hem Dazon is an interesting case. And it's like you said - the character consisted of a mask with illuminated eyes on the end of a broomstick! Hasbro came up with the rest of the design (with Lucasfilm's approval) in The Saga Collection, but there had never been an Arcona seen fully on screen at that time.

But then we get to The Clone Wars! In the Domino Squad training episode we get to see an Arcona bounty hunter named El-Les who is helping to train the clones. He's a more fully designed character than Hem Dazon, and has different anatomy. So if Hasbro goes the Hem Dazon route, could he look more like El-Les?

View attachment 552695
Click to expand...
Yes, I actually remember this. If being honest, I'd assume they'd go more with this, as, I suppose, this is the canonical special appearance now. But I won't lie. I actually prefer the Hasbro artistic liberties design with the inverted legs. Hem's maybe the most unique case of this of them all, as, again, he's shown in detail...but rather, only his head is, and he's among the least shown, as, well, his body doesn't even exist. Really hard to classify.
 
Although I will ALWAYS prioritize unmade characters over rehashes, there are a handful of rehashes I hope to see eventually. Mostly it's just the characters that can't sit.

Labria
Lak Sivrak
Hem Dazon (the liberties they took on the outfit really don't bother me, since canonically I don't believe there's anything to contradict it)
Ellors Madak (also because I need him to finish off the spacemen. I'd probably buy 3 or 4 of him just for that reason)
Muftak (I honestly don't recall if he's actually sitting in the cantina, and I love the figure we have, but it would be really cool to have one with updated sculpt, paint and articulation)
Djas Puhr (not only so he can finally sit, but so we can get the correct outfit)

All the others I'm happy with. Boshek just stands at the bar and isn't a particularly interesting character to me so I'm happy with the one we got. Bossk makes a better Cantina Dude custom anyway lol. The less painting, the better 😁

Dannik Jericho doesn't bother me. Nor does Hrchek Kal Fas. I really don't mind the creative liberties and they're nice looking figures already. It just seems like we could go on all day about all the various inaccuracies, but it's never going to be perfect, so I'll settle for good enough. Now if they DID update them to make them more accurate, I'd still buy them, but they're not a priority.

Feltipern Trevagg isn't a priority for me because the only thing stopping him from being a 'complete' cantina figure is a soft goods lower shirt so he can sit, and that's an easy custom job.

Trying to think of any others that come up a lot, but I think that mostly covers it.

Edit: Oh yeah I do remember having issues getting Wioslea to stand, and pretty sure he or she can't sit either. So I wouldn't mind an updated sculpt with more stability.
 
Last edited:
I do think Hem Dazon might be one of the easer ones due to just being a head on a stick, Hasbro could literally give him any body the wanted which would essentially be 95% reuse, just needing new head and hands/forearms. Just as I think Labria, Bith head and Duros head are also the same amount of easiness. I would epect them to go for the easy/lower cost stuff first. And only address the higher cost figures later if absolutely necessary.


eriks_mask said:
It is hard while I feel over the years we had some pretty significant coverage of Jabba’s palace with fairly modern figures - all the skiff guards besides Barada and Pote (though I’d argue Pote is fine) are at least up to TVC .1 standards.

Really besides a few more alien guards, Fozec, and Ishi Tib, that leaves a resculpt of the band as my major wants.
Click to expand...
Though it seems Hasbro isn't into doing actual kitbashing, between the Stranger and Joruus we do now have bare arms to work with. So feasibly all they need is a new torso and head. I think pretty much any other figure's legs could work given we don't get a really goo look. I've seen several customs that have used various different legs. I think it's Shasa Tiel that might have a bigger hill to climb in getting made due to possibly needing more newness.
 
A lot of the Rick Baker Patrons (save Muftak) would be easy - because their outfits are so simple. Lak could reuse Hammerhead’s upper arms and upper legs
 
I actually had Hem Dazon as #1 on my March Madness Top 25 last year. He's the first Cantina alien that we see, and I've always felt that the design of the old Saga Collection version looks a bit out of place, as if it were overly influenced by what were then "modern sci-fi aesthetics" as opposed to "Tatooine aesthetics."

Despite only seeing his head in the film, some behind the scenes photos hint at what he might have looked like had he been designed in full for A New Hope. If we were to get a new version, I'd hope his design would be something of a cross between how he appears in these two images, with longer neck, and wearing "desert dweller" attire.

1761592252217.png 1761592284504.png
 
Darth_Sceptaurus said:
Although I will ALWAYS prioritize unmade characters over rehashes, there are a handful of rehashes I hope to see eventually. Mostly it's just the characters that can't sit.

Labria
Lak Sivrak
Hem Dazon (the liberties they took on the outfit really don't bother me, since canonically I don't believe there's anything to contradict it)
Ellors Madak (also because I need him to finish off the spacemen. I'd probably buy 3 or 4 of him just for that reason)
Muftak (I honestly don't recall if he's actually sitting in the cantina, and I love the figure we have, but it would be really cool to have one with updated sculpt, paint and articulation)
Djas Puhr (not only so he can finally sit, but so we can get the correct outfit)

All the others I'm happy with. Boshek just stands at the bar and isn't a particularly interesting character to me so I'm happy with the one we got. Bossk makes a better Cantina Dude custom anyway lol. The less painting, the better 😁

Dannik Jericho doesn't bother me. Nor does Hrchek Kal Fas. I really don't mind the creative liberties and they're nice looking figures already. It just seems like we could go on all day about all the various inaccuracies, but it's never going to be perfect, so I'll settle for good enough. Now if they DID update them to make them more accurate, I'd still buy them, but they're not a priority.

Feltipern Trevagg isn't a priority for me because the only thing stopping him from being a 'complete' cantina figure is a soft goods lower shirt so he can sit, and that's an easy custom job.

Trying to think of any others that come up a lot, but I think that mostly covers it.

Edit: Oh yeah I do remember having issues getting Wioslea to stand, and pretty sure he or she can't sit either. So I wouldn't mind an updated sculpt with more stability.
Click to expand...

Outside of Bo'shek, I pretty much agree. Those are probably my biggest remake wants. I think Djas Puhr is just a terrible figure even for the time it was released. Labria was pretty bad even by its own standards too. These two might top my list. I think Muftak does still look good, honestly, but he just can't sit...and I want one that can sit. He'd be one that I'd still keep as a Mos Eisley civilian outside the cantina after getting an update, whereas I usually give away my older versions. Ellors Madak is a nice-looking figure too, but I want that modern articulation. Lak I'd LOVE. LOVE. LOVE. I just don't list him as highly because I'm not so sure he'll ever happen again. Maybe. I mean, Shaw Anakin did, so there's totally a chance.

I do really want Bo'shek, I really do; it's pretty much the only one I disagree on.

I wouldn't turn down a new Jericho, but I don't need it. I wouldn't turn down a new Feltipern, but don't need it. I wouldn't mind a new Hr'chek, but I'd prefer the other one and wouldn't pass on a more accurate version...but this one is especially worth keeping the old one still.
 
And she can definitely stand too. Although adding barbel hips to her legs certainly have improved range of motion on them!
 
Nicklab said:
I think people might be diving a bit deeper into the Cantina than Hasbro might go. I think it's very fair to expect that Hasbro might look at the opening montage sequence before Luke actually steps towards the bar for source material.

As for other criteria that Hasbro might consider? Which characters do they consider to be "DONE". The TVC purists are somewhat like Madame Jocasta Nu in AOTC - "If a figure does not appear in our TVC figure archive, it does not exist!" But Hasbro's criteria is different. And I fully expect that they might go back as far as the Post OTC line when we're discussing figures that might be well suited to the Haslab Cantina - because this 4-pack is about world building for that environment.

As for who they might pick based on that sequence? Hem Dazon is in the first shot, and Muftak is in the second. Arleil Schous is in the background of that first shot. As for who else? Labria has a really prominent shot. So do both of the Duros. And Danz Borin is fairly prominent. As for the shadows cast on the table? They all seem pretty alien to me. I suppose Lir'n Carn is a possibility given the Bith tooling.

If I had to bet? I think there's the possibility of two characters being revisited, and two new ones being included. I'm not optimistic about Hasbro going with some of the really deep cuts.
Click to expand...
Haha, we've certainly got a number of Jocastas on this site and in the hobby in general, if something doesn't meet their standards, they'll start talking about how an upgrade will be needed the moment a figure is released. I can understand wanting some updates for 5 POA figures that can't sit (and are doing so in the film), but I think some are overly critical of figures that even came out during the TAC / Legacy era. Personally, I think that the Hem Dazon figure is pretty great, but I'd buy him again in an alternate costume. Should they do the same outfit with more articulation? I certainly hope not, that would be a waste of valuable tooling dollars considering the majority of cantina backers very likely have the original figure. The vast majority of people even supporting a cantina playset are likely long-haul collectors that have been in it for 15-20+ years and probably have hundreds of figures. Surely Hasbro realizes this as well and knows that they can't feasibly revisit everything (nor should they). That's why I prefer unmade cantina patrons at this point - I'd love to see something new, like Tzizvvt, over a dull rehash.
 
MysterioMaximus said:
Outside of Bo'shek, I pretty much agree. Those are probably my biggest remake wants. I think Djas Puhr is just a terrible figure even for the time it was released. Labria was pretty bad even by its own standards too. These two might top my list. I think Muftak does still look good, honestly, but he just can't sit...and I want one that can sit. He'd be one that I'd still keep as a Mos Eisley civilian outside the cantina after getting an update, whereas I usually give away my older versions. Ellors Madak is a nice-looking figure too, but I want that modern articulation. Lak I'd LOVE. LOVE. LOVE. I just don't list him as highly because I'm not so sure he'll ever happen again. Maybe. I mean, Shaw Anakin did, so there's totally a chance.

I do really want Bo'shek, I really do; it's pretty much the only one I disagree on.

I wouldn't turn down a new Jericho, but I don't need it. I wouldn't turn down a new Feltipern, but don't need it. I wouldn't mind a new Hr'chek, but I'd prefer the other one and wouldn't pass on a more accurate version...but this one is especially worth keeping the old one still.
Click to expand...
Yeah, Lak would definitely be on the top of my list for remakes, probably followed by Labria. Not only because they're the most in need for a remake but I just really like the characters. And it's not necessarily that I'm opposed to a remake of Boshek or have anything against him, he's just not up there as a priority for me. But like the others, if they made one I'd still bite lol.
 
eriks_mask said:
I did some digital mock ups of the 3 resculpts I’m most hopeful to see - several of the shadows could match these hands.
Click to expand...
Gave this a like based solely on the fact that you got the scale of Duros’ head right, even if the color isn’t exactly accurate, heh. Sadly, Hasbro will likely reuse the X-wing pilot Druos head if they update Ellors, so like his POTJ figure, his head will still be too small.
 
VideoViper said:
They could double the Duros figure for the standard repack :LOL: 🤣
Click to expand...
The two Duros in the cantina don't look alike. IIRC they don't even have the same hands. Although I wouldn't mind if Hasbro ignores that production gaffe.
 
^ better yet, the silver suit in 4pk and the jedi/farmer dressed one as a single pack or viseversa
 
EmperorPalps said:
Gave this a like based solely on the fact that you got the scale of Duros’ head right, even if the color isn’t exactly accurate, heh. Sadly, Hasbro will likely reuse the X-wing pilot Druos head if they update Ellors, so like his POTJ figure, his head will still be too small.
Click to expand...
Ellors is blue - though a bit darker than the gg bust I used - Bannis is definitely more greenish
 
They never really said if the 4-pack will contain any brand new characters, did they? Man, I really hope there are at least 2.

I was also looking at one of the table diagrams and I don't think they're going to go with four that actually sat together at the same table. Reason being all the tables that had four patrons are unlikely, either because one would be a re-pack or one would be too large (or way too small in the case of Dice Ibegan) to take a spot in a 4-pack (also Lak and Ketwol were never in the scene together of course). How cool would it be though to get Atheloe, Tzizvvt and Reegesk in a 4-pack along with a new Takeel (I believe he is shown sitting with them at one point, unless it's Zutton)? I think it's unlikely though because Atheloe would be too large.

Either way I think I will wait to return to my cantina customs until after this announcement. Hopefully this will knock at least a couple off my to-do list!
 
Last edited:
eriks_mask said:
I did some digital mock ups of the 3 resculpts I’m most hopeful to see - several of the shadows could match these hands.
Click to expand...

These are great! And I wouldn't be mad at all if they gave Lak more human-like legs. I'm thinking the weird wolf legs thing has been retconned because of Brutus. Would love to see some mock-ups of unmade characters if you ever feel inclined 😁
 
Darth_Sceptaurus said:
They never really said if the 4-pack will contain any brand new characters, did they? Man, I really hope there are at least 2.
Click to expand...
Nope, the only thing we do know is no repacks. So all four could be totally new unmade characters or remakes. I'd lean towards a 50/50 mix because you have to keep the people who already have everything interested. As cool and great remakes are of 10-20 year old figures they not quite as cool as an unmade one in terms of keeping it fresh and new.
 
Captain_Piet said:
Well, we'll know next month.
Click to expand...
This is amazing. Next month, awesome?!

I suppose this also confirms that this is a 4 pack rather than a 3 pack.
4 much needed Cantina Patrons is amazing. Personally I don't care if they are all new characters or not. I would just hope if they do figures they've done before I hope they pick from the few real early ones that are hard to use now, like Labria and Lak Sivrak.

For example it would be a shame for the to do a new Bo Shek or Ellors Madak, which IMO are still good enough to use with the latest figures (I also use the TCW Muftak, which is a good enough figure for me).
 
I’ve looked at this image a thousand times and feel these are the options that best fit the shadows…

Going clockwise…
Top Right - appears the most humanoid and also looks like a long glove - see the bell shape? That leaves…
Yelllow spacer (a new Bossk tooling)
Twas Khaa (boring, but easy retool of Mosep)
Garindan (not in the cantina- but had to be coming)
Maybe one of the Duros and shadow distorted the sleeve???

Bottom Right - clawed and 3 fingerd
Arleil - most likely finger pose even matches his proto
Gotal- they have similar hands so the only other option I could think of

Bottom left -
Hardest one for sure, slim clawed fingers.
Kabe- not a redo high on my list
Rannat- not a very exciting character but a never before done alien, seems easy to tool,
Labria- possibly
Lutrillian- if they give them some added alien interest to their hands (they just had bare human hands on set)
Muftak- maybe but they seem a bit small
Saurin - could be a potential

Top left- bulky clawed hands
Lirin - would be a very easy retool
Lak - wishful thinking
Labria - again, but the hand does match this bts shot of Rick baker wearing the mask with clawed gloves
Muftak - again, worry Muftak might be too large for a pack like this.

Edit: Hem Dazon could be one of these hands too, as his body is up to interpretation
 

Attachments

  • IMG_8823.png
    IMG_8823.png
    1.6 MB · Views: 29
Last edited:
Idpullthecurtain said:
This is amazing. Next month, awesome?!

I suppose this also confirms that this is a 4 pack rather than a 3 pack.
4 much needed Cantina Patrons is amazing. Personally I don't care if they are all new characters or not. I would just hope if they do figures they've done before I hope they pick from the few real early ones that are hard to use now, like Labria and Lak Sivrak.

For example it would be a shame for the to do a new Bo Shek or Ellors Madak, which IMO are still good enough to use with the latest figures (I also use the TCW Muftak, which is a good enough figure for me).
Click to expand...

The only circumstance where I might prefer a retooled character over a new one is with Ellors, so we can get a new sculpt for the spaceman outfit that at least one if not three other characters wear! The Duros wearing Arleil's jacket should be an easy head and hand swap once Arleil comes out, which just leaves Bannis Keeg, another easy custom. But if Hasbro wants to make those characters, I won't be mad and will still buy them.
 
Darth_Sceptaurus said:
The only circumstance where I might prefer a retooled character over a new one is with Ellors, so we can get a new sculpt for the spaceman outfit that at least one if not three other characters wear! The Duros wearing Arleil's jacket should be an easy head and hand swap once Arleil comes out, which just leaves Bannis Keeg, another easy custom. But if Hasbro wants to make those characters, I won't be mad and will still buy them.
Click to expand...
I think Ellors space suit is very different to the other characters? Regardless, a new Ellors would be ok with me, but I am still happy enough with the POTJ one. Labria is a different story, I cant have that in the cantina. And Sauron is such a mess I cant have that in my Cantina too so I wouldnt mind a re-do of him.
 
Idpullthecurtain said:
I think Ellors space suit is very different to the other characters? Regardless, a new Ellors would be ok with me, but I am still happy enough with the POTJ one. Labria is a different story, I cant have that in the cantina. And Sauron is such a mess I cant have that in my Cantina too so I wouldnt mind a re-do of him.
Click to expand...

The suit he wears appears to be from PotA. The ReAction figure of Cornelius wearing this suit now goes for crazy money in the aftermarket, as it can be used to make a Danz Borin custom, as it appears he wears the same one. Not only that, but the helmet that comes with it seems to be a perfect match for at least one of the helmets the other two less visible spacers in the cantina wear. There's some debate over whether they also wear the same suit, as some think their suits are silver. I personally think all three suits are the same. If that's the case, Ellors could be used for up to three custom patrons.

1765817891320.png
1765818153906.png

1765818099163.png
 
I know Hasbro probably doesn't have the rights to do so, but I wouldn't be against them sculpt ape heads for one or two of those background spacemen if ever made. Leave the helmet on inside the bubble so it's a surprise when you open it!
 
Masterfett said:
I know Hasbro probably doesn't have the rights to do so, but I wouldn't be against them sculpt ape heads for one or two of those background spacemen if ever made. Leave the helmet on inside the bubble so it's a surprise when you open it!
Click to expand...
If I were to splurge and pay the $150-200 for that Cornelius ReAction figure, I'd leave him exactly as is! With the helmet on no one knows, so who's to say one of the spacers isn't canonically an ape man?
 
eriks_mask said:
I did some digital mock ups of the 3 resculpts I’m most hopeful to see - several of the shadows could match these hands.
Click to expand...
If those are included...though I thought it might be four, not three, but guess beggars can't be choosers...but those three would be big winners.

Labria is my most wanted, by far, for resculpts. His figure is so insanely dated now, so much so it's like a Happy Meal toy. The Duros and Lak would be great, too, and are also pretty dated. Boshek, Djas Puhr, and select others would also be nice remakes.

But I'd like to see some never-before-made in here too. Arleil is the obvious choice here.
 
So assuming this is revealed by January 15th, the "first half" as I've heard, and based on previous preorder listings the set should have an eta of June. Give or take whether it arrives early or not like some items have, that does feel kind of late in the year. Which has me asking how soon we'll see some of this stuff between now and may, I hope a few of these items do ship sooner or more stuff is announced/revealed that comes out sooner.

I do hope that they make one of the Spacemen because it dos have multiple reuse potential, namely I'd like to see a new Bossk which would likely be main line. But I've wanted a newer BoShek since like the last twenty years. lol
 
Darth_Sceptaurus said:
The suit he wears appears to be from PotA. The ReAction figure of Cornelius wearing this suit now goes for crazy money in the aftermarket, as it can be used to make a Danz Borin custom, as it appears he wears the same one. Not only that, but the helmet that comes with it seems to be a perfect match for at least one of the helmets the other two less visible spacers in the cantina wear. There's some debate over whether they also wear the same suit, as some think their suits are silver. I personally think all three suits are the same. If that's the case, Ellors could be used for up to three custom patrons.

View attachment 556858
View attachment 556861

View attachment 556860
Click to expand...

Darth_Sceptaurus said:
If I were to splurge and pay the $150-200 for that Cornelius ReAction figure, I'd leave him exactly as is! With the helmet on no one knows, so who's to say one of the spacers isn't canonically an ape man?
Click to expand...
Yes thanks for that.

I love the Cantina Space Men. Im such a fool for not getting that POTA Cornelius figure. Why they heck didn't I get that, what a stupid mistake.
Lets hope Hasbro rights that wrong and gives us the Space Men! Now you've got me fully behind this. (Although, that said the Cornelius really is a Retro figure and would work far better with a Retro display. For a modern set up, I guess its just about ok but not perfect.)

Theres so much they could do for Cantina figures. Including resculpts, which wouldnt be my priority. I can live with BoShek, hes far better than Labria and Lak. But Djas Phur does look a bit dated thesedays.

This would be my prediction/wish for the 4 pack;

Ellors Madak
Saurin
Arleil
Tzizvvt
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

GNT
Jedi Master Plo Koon and Clone Commander Wolffe 2 Pack
Replies
20
Views
1K
BlasTech
BlasTech
GNT
Battle Droids - 4 Pack
2 3
Replies
100
Views
18K
Nerfherder
Nerfherder
GNT
Mos Eisley Cantina (Haslab) - 14,737 Backers
405 406 407
Replies
16K
Views
3M
Nerfherder
Nerfherder
GNT
IG-12 and Anzellan - VC#358
4 5 6
Replies
223
Views
30K
Masterfett
Masterfett
Darth_Sceptaurus
Expanding Mos Eisley Outside the Cantina
Replies
7
Views
521
Darth_Sceptaurus
Darth_Sceptaurus
Back
Top