Rian Johnson's trillogy is still being made

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The trailer for his Knives Out is out, if anyone cares.

I think it’s suppose to be clever, witty, stylish, darkly comedic, and irreverent— traits I would never associate with Rian since he’s so unsuccessful at pulling any of these characteristics off. But then again, the always ferocious Toni Colette is in this, so maybe he just might be able to pull it off… But then again— TLJ.
 
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The trailer for his Knives Out is out, if anyone cares.

I think it’s suppose to be clever, witty, stylish, darkly comedic, and irreverent— traits I would never associate with Rian since he’s so unsuccessful at pulling any of these characteristics off. But then again, the always ferocious Toni Colette is in this, so maybe he just might be able to pull it off… But then again— TLJ.
I've never been so disinterested in an upcoming movie that's starring so many actors and actresses I like. Any one cast member could usually get me in a theater, but then again— TLJ.
 
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Looper and The Last Jedi were great! :) Definitely interested in seeing Knives Out, especially considering all the talent that is involved.
 
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I've never been so disinterested in an upcoming movie that's starring so many actors and actresses I like. Any one cast member could usually get me in a theater, but then again— TLJ.
If Knives Out works out for him, then good for him. Then hopefully he really will leave SW alone— both his treatment of the film and his attitude of the criticism is the epitome of juvenile toxicity, and he’s become a meme of a petulant, bratty middle-age man. (He really should take a clue from George who’s genuinely gentlemanly with his "If this doesn’t work, I’ll take the blame…” maturity.) On a more positive note about Rian, I’ll always maintain TLJ works as a SW-parody/farce at best. (But in no way would I sit through it ever again straight… )

Glad to see that Bob has called off this nonsense direction of The Sequel, and thus a more classic and timeless redirection that’s truer to the spirit of SW is being explored— or in this case, expanded on: The Mandalorian and Cassian (and the return of CW series) are strong indication of returning to SW’s timeless roots— but hopefully not lazily recycling it as this Sequel has done. And hopefully they're done with the tell and don’t show “strong this’ and “strong that” identity politics and will concentrate on just well-developed characters in a “strong” story.

Post-Sequel, I feel they might just no longer take SW for granted and slap the brand on any subpar generic product to be on-trend, and are willing to put in the effort again.
 
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As I've said before, while he may or may not have been right for Star Wars. Especially not something dealing with or connected to OT characters, as far as I'm concerned. That said, he might be okay for something different in that Universe, heck based on TLJ he could have possibly made a decent Vong interpretation. lol

After all i thought Looper was alright, so he had the potential for something. And he may have it for Knives out.

Once I've had time to forget his transgression on Luke, and most of EP8. I think he could do okay for some weird spin-off that I'm not emotionally invested in. Because if he does wind up ruining another SW movie, at least he wouldn't have ruined any of my favorite or childhood characters.
 
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^^^ He was never right for SW; I mean, just on a purely superficial level— tuxedos in a SW film..??? Horseracing/Muppet in literal nun’s habits…??? And a stereotypical nerd who looks like she should be in Ghostbusters..??? He lacks visual flare, and that should have been a warning sigh. I’ve never seen anything of his and he may very well be a competent director in another genre. But after TLJ— along with his obnoxious behaviour (and that voice…) on full display, I’m not interested in seeing anything he has to offer. I have to suffer enough arrogant, obnoxious, bratty people lackingd talent in my professional life, I don’t need to willingly put up with them when it comes to SW.

One of the most distinct, original and interesting director is Yorgos Lanthimos. Every single one of his film, with the exception of his first only because it’s tooon the nose in its literary adaption for my preference, has been building from strength to strength. But I’d never want to see him take on SW: that combo would be a disaster of unimagined magnitude.

But someone like Jeremy Saulnier, I can see him take on SW successfully. Especially now with the seemingly more adult direction with The Mandalorian and Cassian, Jeremy would be a potentially ideal candidate; with his seedier, grittier feel for tone that’s akin to classic Westerns set in modern times, and his leanings towards moodier, outcast-type anti-heroes. He would need to streamline his sensibility when it comes to a more consumer product like SW, but he’s very much like Gareth in that he avoids trends and would keep to a timeless tone for SW.
 
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the thing that bothered me most was the treatment of Luke "I Came Here To Die" Skywalker.
Luke is supposed to be the epitome of all "Hope" -- so what's the opposite of Hope..? suicide.
and despair.

Rian basically just held a mirror up to Luke's character and gave us "Anti-Luke", for the sake of it.
that's not "Clever". NO thought went into this.





it was like watching "Bizarro" Superman -- (after paying good money to see Christopher Reeve).
it was a Bait&Switch -- sold to us by a mischievous leprechaun, who THOUGHT he was being "Clever".


 
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Update on Rian's Trilogy.

he's no longer talking about "when" it will happen -- he's talking about "IF" it will happen.

he also says, he's happy to be a SW "fan" again (as opposed to a SW "film maker").

"I am a fan again. I get to JUST be a movie fan. I am so excited. I watched that last trailer and I was just like, squealing at my screen. I cannot wait to get my popcorn, sit down and see the end of this story, man. It's gonna be great."
(Can we expect for you to be walking in the Star Wars universe again?)

"Well, we'll see. I mean I'm still talking to Lucasfilm, they're figuring out what they're doing and we'll see what happens. But you know, I'd be thrilled if it, thrilled IF it happens, and I'm working on my own stuff too."
https://twitter.com/BANGShowbiz/status/1181878285342560256
 
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more here:

https://movieweb.com/star-wars-trilogy-rian-johnson-not-sure/?fbclid=IwAR0Vp5UUholiCB2hIfI83QXCaahdApWHflIbEfgR_4Ne3k9iiMDEeOTDr6w

"Rian Johnson may have just cast some doubt on his planned Star Wars trilogy...

"For the first time since this press tour started, he added just the slightest bit of doubt into the mix when it comes to this project....

"There are two key bits there to focus on, outside of his general tone while speaking in the clip. The "we'll see" and the word "if." Previously, Rian Johnson has been talking as though it's a done deal."


(note: all he ever said was "I'm still working on it" -- which never really meant ANYTHING [IMO] -- it just meant that he was "still working on" his first draft).
 
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^^^ Rian’s “I’m still working on it” whenever asked about this mythical trilogy of his should have been all the warning signs that he was never actually “working” on it. Famous last words and all that...

He was never getting his own Sequel: It was pure marketing to hype TLJ. No director in the history of cinema— no matter how famous they were, was ever promised a 3-film nearly 1 billion dollar production deal before the box-office results of their current hyped film was firmly established to be a phenomenal, runaway blockbuster. Words are cheap, and Disney has consistently taken advantage of this to promote their lazy and banal offering— whether its this Sequel, or their CGI-remake of their animated classics.
 
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Hey, i heard a rumor that they're still "working" on He-Man. How long has that been going on?

I believe when I see in theater.
 
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^^^ Rian’s “I’m still working on it” whenever asked about this mythical trilogy of his should have been all the warning signs that he was never actually “working” on it. Famous last words and all that...

He was never getting his own Sequel: It was pure marketing to hype TLJ. No director in the history of cinema— no matter how famous they were, was ever promised a 3-film nearly 1 billion dollar production deal before the box-office results of their current hyped film was firmly established to be a phenomenal, runaway blockbuster. Words are cheap, and Disney has consistently taken advantage of this to promote their lazy and banal offering— whether its this Sequel, or their CGI-remake of their animated classics.
Absolutely agree with you here
 
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Hey, i heard a rumor that they're still "working" on He-Man. How long has that been going on?

I believe when I see in theater.
Years and years, it may head to Netflix.
Someone said since 2007 ...
But with today's environment it can't become what it should be, unless things really are turning around, as with Chapelle and Joker etc.
 
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I don’t despise Rian nor TLJ as much as some you guys do (hello HothHan!), but going back to when the hype for TLJ and his supposed trilogy was to lead us poor dumb commoners into a new golden age of SW-wokeness, I called PR shenanigans back then. It was clearly all to hype TLJ to the high heavens, and on the strength of those suspiciously nonstop raves from all the critics, I do believe that the hype worked and gave TLJ that BO boost. And in the aftermath of such hype, many seem to now be realizing/admitting that TLJ is a SW-farce.

Then Rian consistency saying “Still working on it!” whenever asked about this "trilogy" of his, gave me the impression even he was in on the joke that he was being transparent about never actually “working” on it. Especially now, with Disney begging the old fanbase back that they so arrogantly scorned only a year ago— with all these OT-flavoured series: The Mando, Cassian and now Obi-Wan, there’s absolutely no way they would bring back Rian, the (main) antagonist who has become the ultimate scarlet letter of the grief in fandom, to helm a trilogy.

(I find it almost endearing that Rian will likely defend TLJ as a misunderstood masterpiece until his last breathe.)
 
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I don’t despise Rian nor TLJ as much as some you guys do (hello HothHan!), but going back to when the hype for TLJ and his supposed trilogy was to lead us poor dumb commoners into a new golden age of SW-wokeness, I called PR shenanigans back then. It was clearly all to hype TLJ to the high heavens, and on the strength of those suspiciously nonstop raves from all the critics, I do believe that the hype worked and gave TLJ that BO boost. And in the aftermath of such hype, many seem to now be realizing/admitting that TLJ is a SW-farce.

Then Rian consistency saying “Still working on it!” whenever asked about this "trilogy" of his, gave me the impression even he was in on the joke that he was being transparent about never actually “working” on it. Especially now, with Disney begging the old fanbase back that they so arrogantly scorned only a year ago— with all these OT-flavoured series: The Mando, Cassian and now Obi-Wan, there’s absolutely no way they would bring back Rian, the (main) antagonist who has become the ultimate scarlet letter of the grief in fandom, to helm a trilogy.

(I find it almost endearing that Rian will likely defend TLJ as a misunderstood masterpiece until his last breathe.)
I don't despise RJ. I don't even know the man and frankly that is a strong word to use towards any person. I am certainly not a fan of the work he did on Star Wars. I'm not particularly fond of his social media presence (even though that is kind of petty and stupid). His arrogance and giggly attitude and inability to even ponder any criticism of TLJ puts me off. He's a plonker. But I can't despise a man I don't personally know and even if I did I don't think I would despise him. It's a strong word. Really negative. I've used it before in situations that I regret.

At this point I can't even say I despise TLJ. At one time - yes...definitely. I don't like it for soooo many reasons. I've been over them way too many times by now and it's almost exhausting to think about. But my absolute biggest issue is what it did to the fandom. People suck. It's true. There are awful bigots, racists, sexist dbags out. Unfortunately those schmucks came out of the woodwork and used this movie as a platform to spread hate. But not everyone that didn't like TLJ is one of those people but it seems as if that is the label you get if you don't care for it. You are a manbaby. A fragile white conservative. A racist...etc etc etc. We used to argue here about characters and George Lucas (mostly George Lucas lol). Now we argue about all the awful topics these movies should help us escape from. I don't need Star Wars to be all that thought provoking. I just need to be entertained.

Now I'm not going to downplay the negative aspects of TLJ from a Star Wars standpoint and not a real world view. The ****ing lightsaber over that shoulder. The awful attempt at "Marvel" dialogue. The ridiculous and overly drawn out casino scene. The stupid bronco chase plot. The lightspeed attack thatp existed for a pretty shot. I can go on and on (and for the record I have no issues with Rey being no one).

TLJ broke my heart. I know that's dramatic and I don't care.

Star Wars has always been more to me than a movie franchise. It conjures up feelings of nostalgia and magical emotions. Star Wars has helped me through extremely difficult times in my life. I was a (at the time undiagnosed) depressed high school kid with (at the time undiagnosed) bi-polar disorder. It sucked. All my friends from grammar school went to a different high school. My parents were having a rough time with their relationship. I had acne. I only slept at night because I could throw one of the OT movies in my DVD player and set the volume low enough so that the music was ambient noise. The lead up to TPM and AOTC gave me something positive and exciting to look forward to. By the time ROTS came out I was doing better from a personal standpoint but that doesn't change the fact that that whole PT era meant so much to me.

Star Wars is more than a collection of movies for me. It's a lifestyle and lifesaver.

I'm fortunate enough now as a 36 year old man with a loving wife and 2 beautiful children to not need Star Wars like I once did. But it still means just as much. I share it with my kids. Us older fans are the ones that kept this thing going between 83-99 and again between 05-15. We are the ones that spend our disposable income on toys, t-shirts and toasters. We are the ones passing the legacy to our children. In my opinion TLJ abandoned us. It purposely went out of its way to say "yea...thanks but your time is up".

Today I don't despise TLJ. For me it simply doesn't exist. Besides the visual dictionary and the Luke Skywalker (Crait) figure I don't think I own anything related to that movie anymore. The saga ended at that last sweeping and poignant shot in TFA with Luke and Rey. I hoping that TROS saves the ST for me. I have faith. I'm all in. Got my figures, my t-shirt...I'm ready.
 
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^^^ Good for you for still keeping the faith! I hope ROS turns out well for you. (If it doesn’t, try to take it as a SW-parody. That’s how I see this Sequel. Still wouldn’t suffer through it of course, but it absolutely, perversely works as a total farce/expensive fanfic/parody, take your pick.)

You know, even if The Mando/Cassian/Obi-Wan series all don’t work out for me— and The Mando hasn’t impressed me one bit so far (but who knows…), it’s all good. Out of all this era’s mess, I still have RO. It’s become the best SW film for me. I don’t know if any of the directors involved in any of the series possess that brand of talent of which Gareth and Tom has, and even that is absolultey a personal preference. RO is that one shining dark horse to have come out of this abysmal, although amusingly clueless nuSW era.
 
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If they weren't making a Rian Johnson Star Wars trilogy, they would have announced it, like the Game of Thrones showrunners, deciding to dip in favor of getting their Netflix projects made.

So in other words, Rian Johnson's Star Wars trilogy is still being made. :grin:
 
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I believe that Ruin Johnson will get another Star Wars movie. Maybe not a trilogy but one movie.
The GOT guys leaving has left Lucasfilm reeling.
Disney has a release date in 2022 for a Star Wars movie and absolutely no plan for it. Avatar movies and Star Wars movies were supposed to alternate December release dates starting in 2021.
I think Ruin's new film Knives Out, which unsurprisingly is getting rave reviews from the shill critics, will be received well enough that Lucasfilm will go ahead and give him another Star Wars movie.
If for no other reason than they have no other choice.

Of course, it will prove to be a disaster since the hack can't write a decent story but that's another discussion.
 
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I believe that Ruin Johnson will get another Star Wars movie. Maybe not a trilogy but one movie.
The GOT guys leaving has left Lucasfilm reeling.
Disney has a release date in 2022 for a Star Wars movie and absolutely no plan for it. Avatar movies and Star Wars movies were supposed to alternate December release dates starting in 2021.
I think Ruin's new film Knives Out, which unsurprisingly is getting rave reviews from the shill critics, will be received well enough that Lucasfilm will go ahead and give him another Star Wars movie.
If for no other reason than they have no other choice.

Of course, it will prove to be a disaster since the hack can't write a decent story but that's another discussion.
... and while they are at it, just put Brie Larsson in it too, and throw in Tessa Thompson in it as well.
Cue Benny Hill music.
 
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Exactly. This along with RJs vague answers lately on his Trilogy make it seem as if he is out as well.

Thankfully...

I've read rumors saying it's a done deal at Disney that RJ is out. They just don't want to rock the boat before TROS and they're waiting until after TROS has its run to announce that RJ is no longer working on SW.
 
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I believe that Ruin Johnson will get another Star Wars movie. Maybe not a trilogy but one movie.
The GOT guys leaving has left Lucasfilm reeling.
Disney has a release date in 2022 for a Star Wars movie and absolutely no plan for it. Avatar movies and Star Wars movies were supposed to alternate December release dates starting in 2021.
I think Ruin's new film Knives Out, which unsurprisingly is getting rave reviews from the shill critics, will be received well enough that Lucasfilm will go ahead and give him another Star Wars movie.
If for no other reason than they have no other choice.

Of course, it will prove to be a disaster since the hack can't write a decent story but that's another discussion.
Some reviewers of Knives Out aren't even trying to pretend to hide the influence of their bias about Rian Johnson's Star Wars movie. Check out this featured caption on Rotten Tomatoes from a critic who counts towards their aggregate:

Original Score: 4/4
What's that I hear? It's 'as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.' The sound of deflated haters never sounded so sweet as seeing Rian Johnson's The Last Jedi followup, the wildly hilarious whodunit Knives Out.


In what way is this a valid assessment of Knives Out?

Anyways, I would be shocked if this movie gets many bad reviews either way. It has an incredible, talented cast. If it were any other writer/director, I would want to see this the day it came out. But I've found all of his work so far to be underwhelming and disappointing.

 
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He might be a good filmmaker overall, but when it comes to SW, he shouldn't be allowed to touch it with a ten-foot pole.
 
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Like I've said before, I don't know if that totally accurate. He, IMO, just wasn't a good fit with existing OT Canon or for telling Luke's life story.
He may well be just fine doing something not related to the OT, like something from Legacy Comics. Considering his bizarre ideas. lol

Though I'm no too familiar with any of his work other than Looper and TLJ. Looper was alright. However, if i were to base is Resume off of the work listed on IMDB profile. I would have never even considered offering him a gig for the main Star Wars Saga. A spin off? Possibly
 
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Johnson is just not suited to Star Wars. Besides his ideas for the characters, his basic story was rubbish, from papier mache bombers in space, to the slow speed chase in the stars that made no bleedin sense, to the two most redundant sideplots ever in a Star Wars film, to the final silly moments with Finn and Rose.

It was all just terrible.

He should never be allowed to write anything for Star Wars again.

That being said, he has talent as a director. He just needs to direct something writen by somebody that can write a screenplay suited to the GFFA.
 
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You know the only thing I love about this thread? The fact that Bizarro Superman showed up. Me hated it. Me hate it so much.

But what me ACTUALLY hate...is The Last Jedi. All due respect to those who like it. The way I see it is like Cellblock. I've seen some of his other films and while I will say, even those I wasn't thoroughly impressed by, but at least they seemed more competent to me. If that's all he'd done that I'd seen, I'd say he has potential. But putting Rian into SW was like putting David Lynch on Dune. Say what you want about the movie, but that's NOT Dune.
 
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