It's a Poe Dameron's X-Wing with new Booster. The same micro-mold with a rubber nose from two years ago.
At least the paint job looks better.
So this is a low res shot of the "booster" apparatus on the back end of Poe's X-wing. The toy makes it seem a bit larger I think. Will possibly have the electronic wrist gimmick incorporated into it.
Nice catch Nerdherfer
So will Boosted X-Wing and Poe Dameron get it's own thread.
He does have the removable helmet this time.
Give GNT a break man, he's usually really good about doing just this...plus, a lot of stuff has been revealed today. He's probably busier than a one legged man in an *** kicking contestWhen starting a thread I do wish the mods would bring over discussion from previous thread.
Thanks. I usually try and move comments into threads/around when I can but sometimes I'm unable to do so with all the new items revealed, trying to get threads up as soon as possible or else people get angry, checklists and index threads as well as other tasks.Give GNT a break man, he's usually really good about doing just this...plus, a lot of stuff has been revealed today. He's probably busier than a one legged man in an *** kicking contest
I'll be more curious how Fry and Remillard (Incredible Cross Sections) will modify this. To me, it's like putting a third warp nacelle on a Federation starship. (And yes, it went against Gene's rule, but not George if he had one to begin with).I really don't like when a design concept that work perfectly has a big gun added on to it or in this case a fifth thruster - and is considered all new. It seems like lazy design work. .
Never suggested this was the Hasbro one.I don't remember the Hasbro one having rear landing gear???
Lol... really... ???Never suggested this was the Hasbro one.
If you bother to read what I quoted, he's talking about justifying the booster addition for the design of the ship in the movie, and he asked if it was "realistic" based on what was back there.
The Revell model more accurately depicts that.
Totally agree. Why would an X-Wing need a booster anyway since it's already got a hyperdrive and a repulsor lift for anti-gravitic propulsion. With both of those two systems, shouldn't it have as much speed or lift for atmospheric or space travel as it will ever need for any possible situation? Unless there is some explanation that is logical and well thought out for this thing in the film, then it's just really bordering on the absurd, especially since we haven't seen any other fighters in universe in any other prior film using a booster. That's something that just sticks out like a sore thumb for me since we're going off 40 plus years of this story. Crazy. And don't you just love the fact that Hasbro used warped cannons on that X-Wing for that photo. I guess they're preparing everybody for getting warped parts in this re-release. Hopefully for those who will buy this and want straight, unwarped cannons, Hasbro's customer service team will offer them like they did for the TFA release.I really don't like when a design concept that work perfectly has a big gun added on to it or in this case a fifth thruster - and is considered all new. It seems like lazy design work. It seems like something a toy company would do. Re-sell last years transformer by including a new gun that also transforms into a small robot. And it breaks the imaginary reality of the movies. Is it realistic to think there is room to just add a new thruster on the back of an X-wing? What was already in that part of the ship? Surely not dead space. Can it just be removed and still work. Why not give us a new X-wing all together?
Maybe I'll absolutely love this in the movie. For now it's just a toy I can skip.
I don't think the move need to be absolutely beholden to the cross sections interpretations, if they want to update a ship.I'll be more curious how Fry and Remillard (Incredible Cross Sections) will modify this. To me, it's like putting a third warp nacelle on a Federation starship. (And yes, it went against Gene's rule, but not George if he had one to begin with).
Exec 2 is shortly afterwards promoted.Surely the most embarrassing of embarrassing toy re-release ideas.
Exec 1: 'Hey, you know those Poe X-Wings from 2 years ago?'
Exec 2: 'The one with the bendy laser cannons? We have crates of them in the back'.
Exec 1: 'Yeah, well lets add this Force Tech stuff into it and resell it for more money'.
Exec 2: 'OK! But add a Booster.'
So this is a low res shot of the "booster" apparatus on the back end of Poe's X-wing. The toy makes it seem a bit larger I think. Will possibly have the electronic wrist gimmick incorporated into it.Not sure how much Hasbro's needs determine what will be in the movie , but this is why I wanted to make sure a part of the convo came over from the other thread.Nice catch Nerdherfer
As Nerdherfer has identified this booster is in fact from the film.
The film has been showcasing Poe's exceptional skill and bravado, and this might play into a plot point where Poe can only accomplish a mission with this extra edge advantage.
Not necasarily a whole new ship.
Introducing a whole new ship just for this that they never showed before would have likely been criticized by the same bunch here as not "realistic" or they just happen to have an all new ship when they need it, or if they had this ship why doesn't everyone get one etc... LOL!
I guess we can joke/debate about which came first the need in the film or the toy? :grin:
Excellent analysis.I bet the photo with bent cannons is deliberate, as a precaution so that they couldn't be blamed/held responsible when (some) people opened their boxes and found horrible warpage. Would have to check product photos on box to confirm.
As for the booster, I don't think it's absurd as many are making it out to be. There was a lot of experimentation in the early Cold War days with something called RATO, or rocket assisted takeoff, which was used on otherwise ordinary jet fighters. (Or was tested on more heavily instrumented experimental copies, but anticipated for use by regular fighter aircraft.). The idea actually wasn't to increase top speed, but to assist in takeoff from shorter runways and to get to altitude faster, especially to intercept an incoming nuclear bomber.
My point is that these RATO systems were often just little bottle rockets that were more or less modular prefab units stuck onto the jet, which I feel Poe's booster could easily be as well. If it's a unitary accessory that only takes a firing signal and maybe some electricity from the X-wing, it wouldn't matter in any obvious way what stuff is in the empennage of the ship proper, nor would there be a need for a fuel tank.
WOW I can see this happening, especially if there is still of glut of FA X-wings on clearance side by side with the updated more expensive one, someone buying both, swamping the content, and returning the more expensive one. :wtf:Don't want to be the first one to say it, but watch out for potential fraud folks, I have a feeling there's going to be some swapping on this one.
The film has been showcasing Poe's exceptional skill and bravado, and this might play into a plot point where Poe can only accomplish a mission with this extra edge advantage.Agree this will probably be a plot point to showcase Poe's skill, in a situation where he needs the extra boost.... it strikes me that there could easily be a flight regime (whether atmospheric or not) where extra speed would help, and I can't see any particular impediment, so I guess I'm unsure what the worry would be.
Wasn't enough to into a whole new ship.
The plot allows for it as as far as Star Wars physics, the idea and design of the ship allows for it to.
Not sure what the complaint about it is.
As far as those complaining about Hasbro capitalizing on reusing the ship. Here is an idea, if it's not interesting to you, don't buy it.
How simple is that.
There are other new ships too. :awesome:
I've heard that a lot. But to be fair that was still George's idea. He specifically wanted the Naboo culture to be fancy and told Chiang and everyone else to go for that. So the likes of the Naboo starfighters etc are certainly in stark contrast to the designs in the originals and that was just one of the many things about the prequels which made people's views about them vary.As for trouble, i know all about the wallet variety thanks to great hobbies like this one, but not much beyond that. And as for design, my hat is off to Lucas in all respects, but I am probably personally more moved by McQuarrie and Johnston when it comes to vehicles, and less by Chiang, although I :wub: the old "Vehicles and Vessels" guide he drew for all those years ago, before the dark times of CG replacing thought. (The old yellow-orange covered version.). For me the Naboo tech is great sci fi / space opera / future Art Deco, but it actually slightly grates on me as SW, although again *definitely* not because it isn't good design.
LOL, even as a young kid watching ANH, I've always wondered how come those snub fighters never ran out of fuel fighting in space for that long.lol at looking for real science explanations out of Star Wars, the Star Wars physics & tech runs mostly concordant with fantasy.
As it should. It's part of the charm of the franchise and it has been since the beginning. To start complain about physics now, you should know If it allows for a great visual they'll work it.
Lol Installing a phone system. Just pulling the last trunk cable to the distribution board, long story short, put one foot wrong and landed in some guy's office on his photo copier. They called me the stunt man when I got up and drove myself to hospital. Still paying for it 15 years later.Dare I ask what you were doing on that ceiling?
I like those nubian ships as well. I recall hearing about George Lucas penning his first rough draft of "The Star War" in 1974, the first scene had what could only be described as Padme's Yacht moving across the rings of a planet, so it definitely wasn't an afterthought. Like I said earlier though, I like how there was a design focus on engine upgrades and enhancements during the clone war, at least depicted by the overhead "manifolds" or something of that nature on the Nubian Star Skiff. It's a nice subtle touch and a lot less crude than the garbage disposal unit on the back of this T-75. George's absence is noticeable in that regard IMO.I've heard that a lot. But to be fair that was still George's idea. He specifically wanted the Naboo culture to be fancy and told Chiang and everyone else to go for that. So the likes of the Naboo starfighters etc are certainly in stark contrast to the designs in the originals and that was just one of the many things about the prequels which made people's views about them vary.
Me though I'm cool with it. You got a galactic community that's had interstellar space travel for millenia, and thousands of different technological alien species and cultures, all with their own ideas of what's practical and/or aesthetically pleasing. Which gives us ships of literally every size, shape and description. So the whole instinctive human idea that old = blocky and futuristic = sleek has long fallen by the wayside.
But I'm also biased, as I REALLY liked how the NSF handled when playing Star Wars starfighter. Such a great space flight combat game, as console games go.