New Toltoys NZ moc variation discovered

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Another big thank you to Ryan for organising this one for me:
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Congrats guys, those card backs look awesome.Hey James I think that boba card back might be fake, it's the second one Ive seen.The first was a moc.I think there might be a seller in NZ making these in there backyard.
 
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Nick,

I'm getting sick of you trashing these NZ figures as being fake especially the Boba Fett. You seem determined to convince people they are fake. Sorry mate but you are wrong.

Well let me set you straight these are 100% legit rare store sold, bubble unique, smaller stock printed cardbacks vintage factory applied. REAL REAL NZ items.

You need to take the time to read threads in full about these and realise they are genuine vintage production items.

Sheesh

Paul




Congrats guys, those card backs look awesome.Hey James I think that boba card back might be fake, it's the second one Ive seen.The first was a moc.I think there might be a seller in NZ making these in there backyard.
 
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Time to add another cardback to this lot - Darth Vader. :grin:

Its just like an ESB 48 Back-A, but with the New Zealand Toltoys address in where the barcode would normally be. Also, there is no Proof Of Purchase - its a price tag! I've placed it next to a 48 Back just so you can see the difference. The card reverse is also matte, and not at all glossy.



Looking at the front, you can clearly see the indentation where the characteristic NZ bubble discussed above was affixed.



Very very very many thanks to Brody for allowing this to become part of my Vader collection.

Cheers
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That's fantastic Pat :grin: I think a few more of these Kiwi cardbacks are coming out of the woodwork ( 21s, 32s & 48s ) Fingers crossed for another update soon.
edit: also the punch tab looks 'unique' on these NZ 48 backs.
 
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Fantastic addition Pat, awesome card back and great to see it bares the distinctive outline from those crazy NZ bubbles.

Fingers also crossed for another addition in the next wee while.:sneaky:
 
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Hi guys,

Unfortunately I am not a TOLTOYS Collector, just one lucky boy. Picked this up last night within a massive collection. Only thought it would be fair to let you know there is another one, although I would assume that a few know already. :p

ENJOY! :D







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Hey Fellas, these arrived today after a few weeks sweating that they had been lost in the mail.

I believe this is the first time a Chewy has been found on a NZ 48 back and in the lot came two NZ 21 backs.

Unfortunately someone has attempted repairs to all three but the backs are untouched, The 48 back is the same size as a standard Kenner card but the 21 backs are quite visibly smaller than a regular Kenner 21 back. very excited to have something that actually has New Zealand printed on it and as a bonus they originate from my parents home town of Christchurch.

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21 backs


Compared to a Kenner card



Cheers Ryan
Just adding Ryan's great find to this thread. There are some great NZ finds lately. Just amazing.

Cheers
Pat
 

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Hi guys, I was going to update these pics in the cardbacks thread but I thought this would be a better place to keep the data in one central location for these items.



So this is my current collection of NZ 21 back cardbacks, bubbles and carded figures. The Greedo and Hammerhead are carded, the Death Squad Commander and Snaggletooth have the appropriate bubble resting on top of the card but not attached. Those are not the bubbles that came with those exact cards, but they are the correct matching style. The Luke X-Wing however is an interesting sample. The cardback has the usual NZ pyramid shaped bubble remnants but the bubble I have below is not of this style. Thanks to the residual print on the bubble you can see it has the double lines on the border so is definitely from a SW card, but it has no bubble footer and the flanges are square cut like the typical NZ 32 back bubble. This bubble matches the example that Paul has with his carded figure so it is a solid link demonstrating there were two styles of NZ 21 back figure for Luke X-Wing, the pyramid bubble version and a square flanged version.

Additionally thanks again to the retained print from the cardback there are three unmatched bubbles which demonstrate the existence of Chewbacca, C-3PO and Stormtrooper. The last bubble has been thoroughly cleaned along the flange so there is not print to help identify the character it came from however I believe it to be a Greedo bubble as it has some paint transfer inside the bubble that matches the turquoise of Greedo's boots and there's a similar mark on the carded Greedo bubble too. CSI Star Wars in action again! To date this takes the total known characters for NZ 21 back cards to 17 with Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Han Solo and Boba Fett not yet confirmed. I think it's reasonable to presume that those first three were also produced although no known examples have been spotted. As for Boba Fett, it may or may not have been produced on this cardback and we may never have confirmation of this one.



This is my set of 32 backs with the square flanged bubble imprints. The top right Fett had been in my collection since 2009 but I didn't realise what it was at the time. I just thought it was a nice example of a Fett cardback despite the staple it has in the bottom which was obviously used at some time to hold the bubble on. This was probably done at the toy store as it's obvious the bubbles on these cards were not sealed very strongly. Obviously as more information on these has come to light I have a much better understanding of the significance of the unusual bubble shape.



Both these cardbacks are NZ 48 backs but I'm unsure about the bubbles. They're definitely NZ ones but I suspect they're possible supposed to be paired with NZ 32 back cardbacks rather than these. The Yoda bubble has rounded flanges whcih match the 32 back example I've seen while the Luke bubble doesn't seem large enough to cover the bubble impression on the 48 back card. Still, they're a nice match until the correct cardbacks make an appearance :) Here's a photo of the back showing the unique price circle and Toltoys NZ address details.


So.... anyone got some spare NZ cardbacks they want to sell? :D As it happens, I have a carded Hammerhead that I'd now be willing to trade as I have a loose cardback in my collection.
 
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Wow! Just fantastic Dax. Awesome collection, congratulations.
 
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Of course if you don't trade that Hammerhead over time you at least
have an interested buyer ; )
 

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Hi all,

I can now confirm both Lando and Han Hoth in the NZ 32 back series. This leaves Bossk as the only 32 back Empire character that has not been seen on these cards so it would seem probable that he was produced. Interestingly the only SW character seen on these cards to date is Fett so it's possible no other SW characters were produced. Perhaps time will prove me wrong though :)
 
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Only just found this thread, but enjoyed the pics of the NZ 21 and 32 backs. I've always found the shorter NZ 21-backs and larger NZ 32-backs interesting, ever since I started getting figs/cardbacks from overseas and spotted that they were different in size when stacked against my NZ-purchased cardbacks ...have got a few NZ cardbacks in my collection from my childhood (21-backs: R5-D4, Walrusman; 32-backs Bespin Security Guard, Bossk, Hoth Han Solo, Lando, FX-7, Bespin Leia).
 
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I can't believe this was discovered back in 2012, the Boba that is. It was that long ago. Damn I'm getting old. Lol.
Such very cool variations. Hope to one day pick one up, but I never see them.


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What's an Aussie doing with such great Kiwi Star Wars figures lol
I've seen a few here in New Zealand but have been unable to buy so I'm completely jealous Nick haha great figures, well done in the buy
 
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