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Let's get this line started off on it's own thread.

List of figures (from JarJarBinks):

Wave 1
* Spider-man
* Punisher
* Iron Man
* Silver Surfer

Wave 1.5
* Black Panther
* Wolverine (X-Force)
* Bullseye
* Daredevil
* Stealth Armor Iron Man
* Human Torch (Flames)
* Human Torch (F4 costume)

Wave 2
* Hulk (Green)
* Hulk (Gray)
* Green Goblin
* Ronin
* Ultimate Captain America
* Iron Fist

Shown, but no release schedule yet:
Blade
Colossus
Hand Ninjas
Hobgoblin
Iron Man (Classic Red/Gold)
Ms. Marvel (1st Appearance)
Ms. Marvel (Modern)
Moon Knight
Punisher (Modern)
Red Hulk
Spider-Man (Symbiote)
The Thing
Thor (Modern)
Union Jack

And lastly, a link to SDCC08 pics, courtesy of CTR

MARVEL UNIVERSE
 
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Thanks. I'm glad someone else started the thread here.

Really excited for the line. I really hope they decide to use the 4 figure wave as a Preview Wave and get them out for Christmas.
Perfect time to cater to the kiddies. And us rabid collectors of course.


By the way, the Red/Gold Classic Iron Man was also shown with two different heads during the panel presentation. The original flared V-mask and the later bolted mask. Hopefully they just include both in the package, and not make it a variant. Variants bad!

 
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JarJarBinks said:
By the way, the Red/Gold Classic Iron Man was also shown with two different heads during the panel presentation. The original flared V-mask and the later bolted mask. Hopefully they just include both in the package, and not make it a variant. Variants bad!
I noticed that, too. It's interesting though that there was no mention of chase variants and I can't see a one-off chase variant. So I guess there either will be or won't be, and we just need some clarification. I think this sounds like a question for the Marvel Q&A.
 
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Very, very excited for this line. Everything looks great so far, and there's a lot pf potential.
 
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yeah these are going to be really cool. hope they have a better price point than the SHS did.
 
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After having seen these, I have decided to totally skip the DC 3 & 3/4" line, which is too bad, because I was really excited to get both lines. I just can't do it though, they just don't hold a candle to these.
 
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I'm sorry, I haven't actually heard of these yet. Are they an answer to Mattel's new 4" DC line? Basically, are these 4" figures?

And if so, do we know yet if they will be in scale with each other? For example, will the Hulk be just as tall as Human Torch or Punisher?

I was disappointed to see that the DC line had figures that looked like they were the same mold, just repainted or with some more detail. The Flash 3-pack comes to mind...
 
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I'm more excited about this to line than almost any other toy line I've seen recently.

I posted a new report with great photos of this line earlier today:
Hasbro: What's Up With The Marvel Universe?

I was at a Hasbro Marvel party during Comic-Con, and I got to meet with members of the Hasbro team working on this line and also members from Marvel who are involved, including Jesse Falcon.

These guys are very excited about the line as well. Comparisons to the Super Hero Showdown/Marvel Legends Showdown line are inevitable, but let me tell you this: these figures are a HUGE improvement over those. Part of the problems with the Showdown line was the weak joints, and all of the problems with them have been addressed.

I got to handle Spider-Man, Iron Man, Silver Surfer, and Wolverine...and I really put them through their paces, trying to pose them in various ways and even got them to stand up.

Hasbro has taken the lessons learned from Star Wars, G.I. Joe, and Indiana Jones and are applying them to this line.

And what's great is that they can work with the entire Marvel Universe line, and as you can see from the slideshow from the panel and the new photos posted, they are off to a great start with the variety of characters. (personally, I'm pushing for a Guardians of the Galaxy set!
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Stay tuned for more news on this line...I'm following it VERY closely.
 
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it has promise from looking at your coverage the hulks, and the thing figures look really cool (wolverine in his x-force costume kicks butt too)
 
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I'm actually nicely impressed by this line. Yeah, not every figure's the best, but many of them are really well done and leaps over DC's equivalent. I wasn't too keen about buying a new line that's a different size as most of my current figures, but I'll probably get the ones that look good and the ones that I've missed over from Legends. These should be more affordable too.
 
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I missed most of the SHSD figures since they were nigh-impossible to find at retail (pegs & pegs of Wave 1 clogging things for the most part). These... much as I love Legends, the rising costs, poor distribution, and yes, size all have me interested in these. So far I love the look of 'em. Kinda surprised they did X-Force Wolvie first, but I guess they had to start somewhere and they DO have a mix of all kinds in there.

A Guardians of the Galaxy set WOULD be rockin... er, do you mean the future ones, with Vance Astro & Starhawk & the like, or the current incarnation? Either would be great.
 
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darthAndosman said:
hopefully we won't get cheesed if hasbro charges these figures for $10
I'm not sure how they could charge $10 for these. Star Wars figures aren't $10 and they have to build the LFL licensing fee into the cost structure. I'd imagine they'll be priced at or around the G.I. Joe price-point.
 
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BryanSimmons said:
darthAndosman said:
hopefully we won't get cheesed if hasbro charges these figures for $10
I'm not sure how they could charge $10 for these. Star Wars figures aren't $10 and they have to build the LFL licensing fee into the cost structure. I'd imagine they'll be priced at or around the G.I. Joe price-point.
so the same price or 7.99? Joes are sometimes higher than SW. Hasbro will charge 6.99 to 7.99 for these
 
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Ewok_Slayer said:
BryanSimmons said:
darthAndosman said:
hopefully we won't get cheesed if hasbro charges these figures for $10
I'm not sure how they could charge $10 for these. Star Wars figures aren't $10 and they have to build the LFL licensing fee into the cost structure. I'd imagine they'll be priced at or around the G.I. Joe price-point.
so the same price or 7.99? Joes are sometimes higher than SW. Hasbro will charge 6.99 to 7.99 for these
I have no idea exactly but common logic just dictates these pieces will be in this area, I just can't see these figures eclipsing $10 unless the price of oil goes through the roof. Most of the Joes or Star Wars figures have pack ins (build a figure, multiple weapons, etc.) that I don't think the Marvel figures are slated for.
 
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BryanSimmons said:
I'm not sure how they could charge $10 for these. Star Wars figures aren't $10 and they have to build the LFL licensing fee into the cost structure. I'd imagine they'll be priced at or around the G.I. Joe price-point.
I don't think they'll be $10 either, but remember ... Hasbro had to purchase the Marvel license as well. I'm sure it didn't cost nearly as much as the Star Wars license, but it's not like Hasbro invented these like they did G.I. Joe.
 
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Neal said:
BryanSimmons said:
I'm not sure how they could charge $10 for these. Star Wars figures aren't $10 and they have to build the LFL licensing fee into the cost structure. I'd imagine they'll be priced at or around the G.I. Joe price-point.
I don't think they'll be $10 either, but remember ... Hasbro had to purchase the Marvel license as well. I'm sure it didn't cost nearly as much as the Star Wars license, but it's not like Hasbro invented these like they did G.I. Joe.
MArvel themselves said that they got less money from the hasbro license than they did the toybiz one.
 
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Jedi_matt_c said:
Neal said:
BryanSimmons said:
I'm not sure how they could charge $10 for these. Star Wars figures aren't $10 and they have to build the LFL licensing fee into the cost structure. I'd imagine they'll be priced at or around the G.I. Joe price-point.
I don't think they'll be $10 either, but remember ... Hasbro had to purchase the Marvel license as well. I'm sure it didn't cost nearly as much as the Star Wars license, but it's not like Hasbro invented these like they did G.I. Joe.
MArvel themselves said that they got less money from the hasbro license than they did the toybiz one.
But don't forget, that Toybiz owned Marvel and no doubt the licensing fees encountered some creative accounting and costs since they were basically moving money between divisions.

I'm sure there's a licensing fee that Hasbro had to pay, but in the scheme of the LFL license they're not even close. The 3 3/4" line isn't a movie line, it's a comic line. Movie licenses are typically more due to the bump the theatrical release would give, there's really no bump with a 3 3/4" line aside from simple collector interest.
 
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I don't know why anyone would think these would be $10. Marvel Legends are currently $10, so how can a smaller scale series without a pack-in (except the stupid card) be the same price? It can't.

It'll at most be the $7.99 that we're paying for SW now or hopefully, a dollar or two cheaper.
 
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Superhero Showdown figures were the same price as Marvel Legends a few years ago. Granted, they had the little game stand & the clear plastic armature thing and a little rocket-launcher and a couple cards, but the construction was pretty darn cheap on 'em. Really flimsy.
 
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Toon, it's probably a good thing that you missed the Superhero Showodwn figures. This series is the real deal when it comes to 3.75" Marvel figures.

I echo the sentiment that if they are $9.99, I'll pass. Hell, they should be cheaper than SW because most of these figures will have no accessories and practically no pack-in of value.
 
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Ewok_Slayer said:
They should be 5.99 but hasbro knows they can get 6.99
I agree with this wholeheartedly. But I hope Hasbro realizes that the $1 difference is probably the breaking point between a lot of people "collecting 'em all" versus just buying what they really like.
 
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I fear that Hasbro will try to cut costs by using the same molds over and over for different characters like they do for the GI Joe line and Mattel with the little DC figures.
I hate seeing paint represent raised forearm wraps and boots!
 
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Warsaw_Wonder said:
I fear that Hasbro will try to cut costs by using the same molds over and over for different characters like they do for the GI Joe line and Mattel with the little DC figures.
I hate seeing paint represent raised forarm wraps and boots!
Have you looked at the pictures of the figures?

There's nothing wrong with reusing bodies when appropriate.

But they're not taking the Mattel route for the figures.
 
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Warsaw_Wonder said:
I fear that Hasbro will try to cut costs by using the same molds over and over for different characters like they do for the GI Joe line and Mattel with the little DC figures.
I hate seeing paint represent raised forarm wraps and boots!
They already are. Iron Fist and Human Torch are the same figure and accessory, with different heads.
 
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NerfTheWarmech said:
Warsaw_Wonder said:
I fear that Hasbro will try to cut costs by using the same molds over and over for different characters like they do for the GI Joe line and Mattel with the little DC figures.
I hate seeing paint represent raised forarm wraps and boots!
They already are. Iron Fist and Human Torch are the same figure and accessory, with different heads.
Nothing wrong with that.

Both characters share similar body types. And their specific costumes don't require sculpted details.
 
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True, nothing wrong with that. It's one of the reasons Star Wars is so much more than GI Joe. GI Joe was made to use as many similar parts as possible. (People tend to forget that the characters all start as figures, then are added to the comic) Star Wars was made to be as distinct as possible.

I was just pointing out that clearly, a lot of them are likely using the same molds. If not outright repaints like the "generic tights wearing superhero" body being used for Iron Fist and Torch, then most likely the upper arms, thighs, knees, and boots are probably shared between many figures. In fact, the multiple points of articulation makes it easy to completely reuse a figure and just change one part, such as a belt, hand, head, etc.

What amused me is that the Grey Hulk and regular Hulk appear to be identical except for the left hand. Maybe Hulk gets swappable hands?

And a neat repaint can be seen in pictures of the slides. Hobgoblin is an exact repaint of Green Goblin with the addition of a cape and cowl. (New head, but sculpted similar to Green Goblin's) This was awesome in my opinion, seeing as how Hobgoblin is supposed to just be the Green Goblin outfit dyed a different color.
 
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There is no doubt in my mind that we'll see repaints and reuse of existing sculpts. I've never had a problem with it and if it keeps costs down I'm all for it.
 
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I'm really excited that these are coming out, I really wanted marvel in 3 3/4. I think they are pretty awesome, I can't wait till they make more characters.
 
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Yes, I see the similar body type molds being reused already. I just fear it will get even more rediculous as the line goes on.
 
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I did a search and I don't see anything posted for the UK Classic Marvel Figurine Collection on this site, but I'm sure it's somewhere on here!
Anyway, take a look at this sculpt for the upcoming lead Taskmaster figurine.
It's even better than the Union Jack image recently released!
 
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BryanSimmons said:
Ewok_Slayer said:
BryanSimmons said:
darthAndosman said:
hopefully we won't get cheesed if hasbro charges these figures for $10
I'm not sure how they could charge $10 for these. Star Wars figures aren't $10 and they have to build the LFL licensing fee into the cost structure. I'd imagine they'll be priced at or around the G.I. Joe price-point.
so the same price or 7.99? Joes are sometimes higher than SW. Hasbro will charge 6.99 to 7.99 for these
I have no idea exactly but common logic just dictates these pieces will be in this area, I just can't see these figures eclipsing $10 unless the price of oil goes through the roof. Most of the Joes or Star Wars figures have pack ins (build a figure, multiple weapons, etc.) that I don't think the Marvel figures are slated for.
I am sure they won't be $10 but I have to point out Joes haven't had any sort of pack ins since the 25th line started, really they haven't had pack ins since Spy Troops. Unless you count DVD packs for the build a mass device. First ones seen in years.

Why are joes wqual to SW, anyones guess really.

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True, nothing wrong with that. It's one of the reasons Star Wars is so much more than GI Joe. GI Joe was made to use as many similar parts as possible. (People tend to forget that the characters all start as figures, then are added to the comic) Star Wars was made to be as distinct as possible.


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Actually Joes are the same as SW now (or a few pennies difference) and really the only time they used similar parts on a massive scale was the 1982 wave. Otherwise while parts were reused (Duke to Starduster, Zandar to Crossfire and Super Trooper) most of the characters were distinct. Really it wasn't until the TRU releases in 1997 which lead to JVC and a repaint frenzy (not many borrowed parts, just straight repaints with the same character ie Duke, Dart, Snake Eyes, storm shadow, Cobra Commander) that the oversue begain. Even then it wasn't reuseing as much as repackageing (in many cases right after the most recent wave). Lately the 25th parts are much simpler to change around with the figures haveing more "applied" molds, obviously this would cut costs and yet the price skyrocketed. From 4.99 at the begining of the year to $6.97 now (and in some places 7.99 and higher than the SW figs). Why, no one has given a straight answer yet so I doubt we will have one.
 
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