definitely a redemption arc. Loki had always seen himself as "burdened with glorious purpose" but when he wasWOW! Just....wow. Words cannot express how much I loved this. This got to levels of Christopher Nolan like deep. I mean
He's literally forced to watch basically what's an encapsulation of his entire life...including things he hasn't even done yet. His mothers death, his fathers death, his redemption, HIS OWN death. It was SHOCKINGLY tragic. Never did I think I'd actually feel sorry for Loki, but that scene? It's so well done and acted....I did. I felt for him. It was powerful. It seems it'll be a show largely focusing on self-reflection, self-recognition, redemption.
If this show continues to retain the same quality as this first episode, frankly? I'll be my favorite D+ MCU show.
No offense, but why are you commenting on the quality if you aren't watching them? WandaVision was groundbreaking in genre and it had a lot of character development that never would have happened in a movie. The supporting cast was incredible and I sincerely hope we aren't done with Agatha Harkness.None of these Marvel shows are of the same quality of the movies, and it shows. Not that I am not watching them, but they seem a little wishy-washy.
Read it again... Not that I am not watching them means I am. I've seen every episode of each of the three series so far. Falcon and winter soldier was UBER preachy. The Cap characters are my favorite so I was glued to that show.No offense, but why are you commenting on the quality if you aren't watching them? WandaVision was groundbreaking in genre and it had a lot of character development that never would have happened in a movie. The supporting cast was incredible and I sincerely hope we aren't done with Agatha Harkness.
Falcon and the Winter Soldier was much more straight forward, but again it dealt with so much character development for characters that didn't get a lot of it. Bucky is dealing with his place in the world and coming to grips with his past. Sam is trying to be Captain America in a country where not so long ago he wasn't even welcome. The struggle is real and his interactions with Isaiah Bradley are poignant and current without being too preachy. The "Good Guys" are never totally good and the "Bad Guys" are never totally bad.
Loki is just getting started, and I'm not sure what exactly is going to happen in the end, but I'm sure there will be tons of twists and it's certainly changing what we should expect out of the MCU going forward. Loki looks to be a primer on Multiverse... which clearly is where we are headed. If I was going to criticize anything about Loki so far, it's that we don't honestly know anything about any of these characters except for Loki... so the show is hanging pretty heavily on everything he does.
My bad... I wasn't trying to belittle, I misread. The shows aren't trying to be MCU movies in my opinion. They have been fun character pieces that have introduced some aspect of the MCU that hadn't been touched on.Read it again... Not that I am not watching them means I am. I've seen every episode of each of the three series so far. Falcon and winter soldier was UBER preachy. The Cap characters are my favorite so I was glued to that show.
You have to admit none of those shows had the impact Mandalorian has had. But the movies it followed were weak. Marvel movies for the most part have been strong.
See it's rare we disagree bud, but I do on this one...but only in one sense. I don't think there's any element here of "Is this real?" No, this is happening to him. It's surreal, sure, but not an illusion IMO. But that doesn't mean there won't be twists.Loki so far has more in common with WandaVision than any other type of Marvel thing—an “is this real?” type of quality which sets up fans for big twists. I think it’ll pay off when we get to look into the “reveal” character a bit more; my gut tells me not to be too fooled by obvious “clues”…
Not even going to lie. I adored this post. I ate it up like....ice cream. =PYou’re right, of course—it’s real. But there’s an illusionary quality, a kind of dreamscape vibe that reminds me more of WV than a basic procedural drama like Falcon/Winter Soldier.
Marvel is so fun precisely because it can give you heroes that just go around doing karate to bank robbers (Spiderman, Daredevil, Luke Cage), but also can take you into inter-dimensional dark matter-type realities where eternal cosmic forces like Justice have spellcasting battles with time-walking space gods.
The universe where Murdoch and Foggy are preparing their case against some corrupt city alderman is also the one where the Beyonder people’s spiritual will creates a nexus point where the entity Light gets a planet with his face on it.
Even as a kid, it made me laugh. Sometimes a guy like Iceman (who can make ice) gets into a romantic relationship with a reality-bending goddess with multiverse-spanning Fate powers. I always wondered how they must get along while shopping for a couch.
Just like Wanda dressing up like Scarlet Witch for Halloween in some wall-breaking meta-clue, the “reveal” character Sylvie is wearing Enchantress’ horn tiara to mess with both Loki and the viewer. It’s really dreamy and magical, whereas sometimes Marvel is just straight basic.
My favorite show of all-time is Batman the Animated Series. Now Netflix Daredevil comes awful close, probably my top two (which is saying something because I adore a lot of shows - including not in the superhero/action genre) but it's not relevant here. BTAS was very episodic, it had two part episodes, but largely was self contained episodes. And while I'm not AS hardcore on missing that, I do miss shows like it. They do seem less common now. I'm not a Trek guy, but for me the comparison outside of BTAS would be like....Twilight Zone. Little almost vignettes in a sense. An open, a rise, and a climax. But those shows do still exist, less common as they are, just my not be your preferred genres. Black Mirror is one I'd highly recommend, though some episodes....very loosely...connect, just not in a story way. I think what you miss is the anthology series. Another good one I'd recommend is called Love, Death, and Robots. As with any anthology series, it can be hit or miss, but some of those episodes were genius IMO or at least highly enjoyable.I will say that I think I've grown tired of story arcs spanning a whole season for a show, I kind of preferred the Classics like star Trek were each episode was self contained story. That type of television is very rare these days unless it's those procedural shows like Law and Order or CSI that have been on air for 40 years yet somehow never run out of stories.
Dad jokes still make me laugh. Well done. Hha!Yes they are very Low-Key!.......
Hail the all powerful pun.Yes they are very Low-Key!.......
Nah I'd agree with that. I think both had really massive highs and are very entertaining over-all, but didn't quite stick the landing. I found both the climaxes kind of....underwhelming. Oddly I thought the best parts of Wanda were the NOT knowing. Once we got the answer, while somewhat satisfying...it wasn't AS satisfying as it could have been IMO. Especially Quicksilver for me. I don't even get why he was even there anymore. Was it just a troll? For FATWS, the best for me were the opening action scene in EP1, anything with Zemo, anything with Bucky PTSD, and the scene stealing role was Walker IMO. I still enjoyed it, but there was stuff that bored me. So I mean...I gotcha. Did I enjoy these as much as something like, say, Netflix Daredevil? No, not at all, that's a freaking masterpiece...especially Season 3. Almost every scene riveted me. But I did still highly enjoy these shows, just....have a fair share of nitpicks. I think the MCU has KILLED Disney SW as far as films go (love Rogue one though), but funnily enough...I liked Mando better than the two MCU shows thus far.Hail the all powerful pun.
I understand that Covid outright forced them to swerve a bit with Wandavision, but there were some scenes in both that and FATWS that were weak. Not poorly written, but the contrast is off we know that that Sam's family is struggling, However while they had very strong scenes with Bucky coming to terms with what he had done as the Winter Soldier, Sam's family scenes did not show as much despair as it should have. It made one struggle seem much less impactful than the other. That's in the writing. It seems that they needed to stretch it a bit further by adding water to the soup. Overall it's more of a nitpick about the writing and the constraints of having to fill small gaps of time that had not been unaccounted for.
Overall I am pleased with these shows and each one has gotten a bit better. Hoping Loki ends strong, because it has been very well done so far.
Now for spoilers for Episode 2
I'm a fan of classic comics. I'm not opposed to changes, but I am opposed to undermining the origins of a classic iconic role. Does that make sense? I knew it would be Female Loki as the "variant" and frankly, as an alternate universe construct to him in this universe is a cool idea IMO. Heck if you apply multiverse theory, there's a male and female version of all of us. That is a cool idea. My concern is...Loki as in THE Loki is doomed to die and be replaced by the female version. Cause let's be honest here, it's happening with pretty much every other classic role. I really hope they find a way to get him to stick around because, come on, he's one of the best comic film villains ever.
I assume in the final episode of the show he gets his mind wiped of the tv show events and put back into the same time frame of when he originally picked up the cube. However when he picks it up nothing happens or someone gets it first. Everything carries on as per the events of the existing moviesOne thing that really stands out to me with Loki taking the Cube and disappearing at that point in time, is that it would drastically change things from there on out. So that would essentially alter Thor Dark world, Ragnarok as well as him not being around to die by Thanos?
While I thought Classic Loki was cool, it opened up yet another inconsistency because wouldn't him surviving Thanos be his "Variant" moment? Not to mention Sylvie should have been taken as soon as she was born?I absolutely loved this latest episode. LOVED IT! I stick with it, this is my favorite of the Disney + shows.
Richard E. Grant KILLED IT as classic Loki. INCREDIBLE! The climax for his character, aka failed Loki, was actually even powerful. A glorious self-sacrifice for the greater good. Redemption! Class act Thespian.
I'm oddly enjoying they're doing extremely comic accurate classic iconic costumes. There's a right way and a wrong way to do it and in the context of how they do it...it works so well and is utterly charming. Would Grant's costume have worked on Tom? Nah! No one would take it seriously, but in the sheer bonkers context of an alternate reality timeline Loki and all the kookiness that comes along with this end of time timeline...it works wonders. They're just embracing the really out there stuff and I'm head over heels for it. Same goes for Vision and Scarlet Witch, those costumes would never work...but in context of they're Halloween costumes? Totally does and makes it so fun!