If you part out the figs, I may very well be inerested in Coleman for sure, the Cone pilot....I'll think a bit more on it.
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I was astounded the Vader Tie Fighter wasn’t a Haslab.
i mean it shouldn't need to be... its a fighter craft. And STILL not correct truely 1:18 scale but it gets the job done as most toys do. The fact the team discussed making a TVC Y-Wing Haslab threw up red flags to me immediately... as it to shouldn't be a Haslab item... these aren't niche items, heck these aren't even true 1:18 scale items like the Gunships not... these are fighter craft sized items that are staples of the OT saga.
Hopefully LFL still has some future sense to tell Hasbro "no" when it comes to using Haslabs for smaller/mid sized vehicles in the 1:18 scale. They told Hasbro no to a Haslab when they pitched the Black Series Snow Speeder in 6" size but that was a few years ago so who knows what the people at LFL are allowing now ... apparently a mid-sized vehicle slightly upscaled to the Shadows of the Dark Side upscale and presented as a Haslab... which is troubling as a consumer and as brand prestige... it inched over the finish line because customers saw it was a redo of something they had 5 of and tbh didn't need to be a Haslab.
What it tells me is they weren't willing to take the tooling cost risk in case it didn't sell to retail or online stores enough. Which is possible but what I'm actually kind of glad and proud to see was the unwillingness of the vast majority of PT fans to back it as they're older now and are starting to understand their money has value and needs to be earned by these Corporations rather then handing it over like children.
good for you PT fans...good for you.
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The one thing I would counter this sentiment with is the Skystriker HasLab...which was the definition of a "fighter sized" HasLab campaign.
If Hasbro put the care and bonus "landing field equipment" into a Y-Wing HasLab that they put into the Skystriker, I would be fully on board.
(Note: I'm not saying this should be a $500 HasLab, mind you. But around the Razorcrest price, I could handle it.)
I know @Muftak I thought about that as I typed it... but IDK man the Skystriker Haslab after being received was very heavily criticized for cutting corners, the massive cut/fold in the wings and the lack of the forethought. Many of the GiJoe fans who backed it have talked about how they are kind of meh on it now.
IMO It was the return of O-ring figures that carried the Skystriker Haslab. And even when it was funding tons of Joe fans were asking why was a skystriker being redone? and done worse as many feel now.
Hasbro hasn't had any O-ring haslabs since... heck Hasbro nearly killed their entire O-ring line except for Transformer vehicle pack in O-ring figs and sent the rest to Reaction+ for their new O-ring line.
I'm just... worried the Gunship sets a precedent for the future of TVC Haslabs. I hope it doesn't but we'll see.
That's the thing... it doesnt HAVE to be a haslab... look at the Razor Crest... it crowdfuned over 20K units and that's just the people who knew about the Haslab platform, it could have sold at retail and sold 30K had it been available im betting.
Don't keep falling for "This needs to be a haslab" diatribe... it's what's gotten us basic figures for Deluxe pricing... they need to earn our dollars and with new movies coming LFL is going to want Hasbro to make sure product is on the shelves. I'm hoping someone as Hasbro realizes that.. but I'm betting their going to support it with a new 5POA line..
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Why not? In the past two years, we've seen the the Landspeeder, N1, the E-Wing, a re-release of Luke's X-Wing....only a few years back, we had the Skiff, the Rogue One Tank, the Troop transport, the Blue Leader X-Wing, the AT-ST....
why can't they keep releasing vehicles in that size and scale?
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Eh, I just figured most people don’t have or want to spend big money on big unnecessary items. Hobbies seem the first to go when pretty much everything is expensive/rising in price.
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Maybe they could pull it off, but it’s also not really Hasbro’s issues as much as maybe the retailers. They don’t really want anything anymore. The new 2-pack is about as far as Walmart is willing to go, and they don’t even really have pegs for any Hasbro Star Wars. It’s true they could sell them on Pulse (God forbid), but they would have to be VERY few and far between.
Because prices have exploded! You’re right—they’ll make some, but they won’t make too many. As time marches on, we’ll see fewer and fewer new sculpts of ANYTHING. What we’ll probably see instead is re-releases of old starfighters.
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New vehicles have been a mixed bunch. I just got the Vader TIE and it sure looks good. But it is 154€ and has been done before. Let's see:
- plain rerelease or repaint: X-Wing, blue X-Wing, AT-ST
- thorough re-do: Vader TIE, Landspeeder, troop transport, skiff
- completely new: Mando N1, E-Wing, R1 tank
That doesn't look too shabby, and I don't think it's already cause for concern, but after a number of expensive re-dos (TIE, Landspeeder, also the Bantha) it's time for something new, yet unseen; otherwise one might get the impression that Hasbro regresses to a pure OT, main vehicle scheme*.
I expect a vehicle for Mando&Grogu**, I just can't tell which one from the trailers***. The big Q is, will TVC make a glorious return to retail, or will it be relegated to the sidelines while Epic takes the spotlight? And if TVC stays a collector series that is sold mostly online, will M&G make a large impact, or will Hasbro keep it quiet and concentrate on more OT vehicles?
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* Although I wouldn't mind a new Y-Wing. I may even want that more than the Mando Fang fighter or the pirate snubfighter. But I would buy all of them, naturally.
** They really couldn't get a better title?
*** I know of the discussion about a rerelease of the Razor Crest since the HISS tank was also rereleased but I don't quite see it - for the tank, they removed the electronics (probably more for the sake of the exclusivity than for the price?), which would be not a valid option for the RC.
- plain rerelease or repaint: X-Wing, blue X-Wing, AT-ST
- thorough re-do: Vader TIE, Landspeeder, troop transport, skiff
- completely new: Mando N1, E-Wing, R1 tank
That doesn't look too shabby, and I don't think it's already cause for concern, but after a number of expensive re-dos (TIE, Landspeeder, also the Bantha) it's time for something new, yet unseen; otherwise one might get the impression that Hasbro regresses to a pure OT, main vehicle scheme*.
I expect a vehicle for Mando&Grogu**, I just can't tell which one from the trailers***. The big Q is, will TVC make a glorious return to retail, or will it be relegated to the sidelines while Epic takes the spotlight? And if TVC stays a collector series that is sold mostly online, will M&G make a large impact, or will Hasbro keep it quiet and concentrate on more OT vehicles?
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* Although I wouldn't mind a new Y-Wing. I may even want that more than the Mando Fang fighter or the pirate snubfighter. But I would buy all of them, naturally.
** They really couldn't get a better title?
*** I know of the discussion about a rerelease of the Razor Crest since the HISS tank was also rereleased but I don't quite see it - for the tank, they removed the electronics (probably more for the sake of the exclusivity than for the price?), which would be not a valid option for the RC.
Yes...Walmart took on a TVC 2-pack that is going to cost, what? $40? $50? Do we know yet? 20 years ago, a $40 exclusive toy would have been a vehicle, like the Gunship repaints.
Nearly 10 years ago Walmart did have an exclusive TVC vehicle, the TIE Fighter that sold for $80. Or more accurately was marked at $80, but didn't sell until clearanced.
Retailers have soured on $100+ exclusive Star Wars toys after being burned too many times, and the $20-$40 range will only net us figures, so here we are.
l'd rather see the snub or famg fighter b4 a y wing redo. Im kinda getting bored w/ most of what we're getting now are redos.
Yeah it is kinda dull, but on otherhand, has a nostalgic vibe
Likely all tiers and figs pack-in would not be included..well maybe a din Djarin, loose
Well, I'm not a big enough fan of the Y-Wing to care either way, so it's a pass regardless. But based on the Gunship I doubt very much anyhting extra would be included with it for $350. Except two variants of a flight stand. lol
I don't see them including the gantry/ladder, the sled etc. Maybe they'd toss in some of those crates from the Mos Eisley set, tool a new head for X-Wing Luke's body for the pilot.
I mean could we even expect a new Y-Wing Pilot mold? Based on the Cantina it seems feasible to get that and a new Technician/ground crew sculpt. And then maybe they could reuse it for other things, like maybe the Imperial in black jumpsuit or Bodhi Rook?
Frankly, I don't know why this would need to be a HasLab. While not Vader's TIE it is in an iconic action scene, and by it being a HasLab prevents it from being reissued for later variants. MTO sounds like a better scenario for this, I don't see why they couldn't do it at the $200ish price point considering the afore mentioned TIE is only $140. Meanwhile the E-Wing which looks bigger was only $100... But I digress. Even at $250 a Y-Wing with Pilot should be doable as a Fan Channel release. I personally don't see a HasLab at $350+ doing all that well, look how the LAAT/i struggled.
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Thinking about it some more, I’d say at this point Haslab fatigue has become a thing. There are several reasons why and plenty of people will have their own opinions on it, but the pattern the TVC Haslabs have been going reminds me of the 2008 to 2012 run of big 3.75 vehicles. Heck, by the time they got to the MTT it felt like they were running out “popular” options. Rising costs seem to have accelerated that timeline.
I had jotted some notes on my thoughts post-Gunship campaign, but I held back from sharing anything since some things felt iffy. However, the point above is one thing I feel like has stayed true.
Even looking to next year, some of the potential viable/popular Haslab candidates don’t feel like they’re generating much discussion like they would’ve a year ago. The exception (and it’s pretty much always the exception) is some type of Death Star set. It’s always been a popular topic, but even then, it’s not necessarily hype as much as discussions on practicality.
I had jotted some notes on my thoughts post-Gunship campaign, but I held back from sharing anything since some things felt iffy. However, the point above is one thing I feel like has stayed true.
Even looking to next year, some of the potential viable/popular Haslab candidates don’t feel like they’re generating much discussion like they would’ve a year ago. The exception (and it’s pretty much always the exception) is some type of Death Star set. It’s always been a popular topic, but even then, it’s not necessarily hype as much as discussions on practicality.
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They literally just rereleased the HISS tank as repaint, so no, a HasLab Y-Wing could be rereleased as well. The HasLab would feature extras, the repaints will not. The repaints may be cheaper even, as the mold exists by then. (If that destroys the trust in HasLab, well, I say the HISS is at fault.)
Of course I don't know whether a Y-Wing would "need" to be a HasLab. Or whether the HasLab slots even allow for a Y-Wing. Who knows what Hasbro actually plans. At least the Y-Wing fits into the OT release scheme. If a Death Star is out of the question due to pricing issues...
(but I bet some collectors will boycott a Y-Wing out of spite if they don't get their beloved DS...)
Oh well. We'll always have the U-Wing option.
For me, HasLab has been hit or miss bur mostly hit with thee homeruns. Barge, Ghost, Cantina. But going into it we ere told dream items and getting the Barge fist set us all up for expectations, that quite frankly the disappoints when it comes to the Crest. Not that there's anyhting wrong with it specifically, it's a cool looking ship with tons of great fun. But it never felt like a HasLab worthy item to me. I think the fact we got the Barge first pretty much made all the rest that much lackluster on the grandiose meter, and is why I think thee are some out there that want a huge Death Star as the next one. lol
It does seem the logical choice, though I felt it should have been in 2024 with ROTJ anniversary. But you can't always get things to align, new media had different plans and if not for Ahsoka show we may not have ever gotten the Ghost.
Another issue is that costs/prices have skyrocketed so much that those larger items now no longer seem viable in this economy which means a total rethink to smaller vehicles. As it is said smaller vehicles are pricy enough at $140 for a stinking TIE figure, once one of the most affordable ships that nay average kid could buy. While the likes of the Falcon AT-AT etc. got bought by your friend's parents. it's pretty bad for the line that basic fighter ships are well over $100+ and that alone reduces the amount of multiples a person might have bought. Though specifically X-Wing related for different Pilots and deco. Which means these things no longer have a large market due to various factors. Some may be fine with the price because it's a studio model, but others not so much. For many of us we didn't start collecting this IP because of the desire for high priced collectible models or statues.
It's gotten so bad that we can't even speculate on what new ships we want made because of the fact we no longer know the price point as each one is different from he last. And no longer know the cutoff point that deems it a HasLab or fan channel. The fact Vader's TIE costs more than Luke's X-Wing by $40? A long overdue remake mind you but nonetheless wholly expensive. People tend to lose enthusiasm in wanting a TIE Interceptor if it's going to cost that much when last time we saw it it was only $30ish. Even me who's wanted a TIE Defender for a long time is very hesitant to pay $150 for it, much less getting multiples at that price. I've also wanted a couple fighters from the new shows such as Fan Fighter etc. but my limit was $100ish each. I just don't see the value in fighter craft being that much more than $100, thus no longer have the drive to see any of it made.
The only items I still want are Ewok Village for my ROTJ Endor setup, and a Death Star/Star Destroyer set. Anything other than those for a HasLab I'll pass on. I only get stiff that's figure oriented, thus even large ships like the Ghost are no longer useful to me due to very minimal space to display them in. Though I'd also like some Hoth sets that seems totally unlikely given Hasbro past efforts for ESB.
It does seem the logical choice, though I felt it should have been in 2024 with ROTJ anniversary. But you can't always get things to align, new media had different plans and if not for Ahsoka show we may not have ever gotten the Ghost.
Another issue is that costs/prices have skyrocketed so much that those larger items now no longer seem viable in this economy which means a total rethink to smaller vehicles. As it is said smaller vehicles are pricy enough at $140 for a stinking TIE figure, once one of the most affordable ships that nay average kid could buy. While the likes of the Falcon AT-AT etc. got bought by your friend's parents. it's pretty bad for the line that basic fighter ships are well over $100+ and that alone reduces the amount of multiples a person might have bought. Though specifically X-Wing related for different Pilots and deco. Which means these things no longer have a large market due to various factors. Some may be fine with the price because it's a studio model, but others not so much. For many of us we didn't start collecting this IP because of the desire for high priced collectible models or statues.
It's gotten so bad that we can't even speculate on what new ships we want made because of the fact we no longer know the price point as each one is different from he last. And no longer know the cutoff point that deems it a HasLab or fan channel. The fact Vader's TIE costs more than Luke's X-Wing by $40? A long overdue remake mind you but nonetheless wholly expensive. People tend to lose enthusiasm in wanting a TIE Interceptor if it's going to cost that much when last time we saw it it was only $30ish. Even me who's wanted a TIE Defender for a long time is very hesitant to pay $150 for it, much less getting multiples at that price. I've also wanted a couple fighters from the new shows such as Fan Fighter etc. but my limit was $100ish each. I just don't see the value in fighter craft being that much more than $100, thus no longer have the drive to see any of it made.
The only items I still want are Ewok Village for my ROTJ Endor setup, and a Death Star/Star Destroyer set. Anything other than those for a HasLab I'll pass on. I only get stiff that's figure oriented, thus even large ships like the Ghost are no longer useful to me due to very minimal space to display them in. Though I'd also like some Hoth sets that seems totally unlikely given Hasbro past efforts for ESB.
What I mean is, any time you have a Haslab, some people want it and everything associated with it locked up so it never sees the light of day. So by not having it as a HasLab totally removes this argument from happening page after page of this site. That's the fist battle.
Second, while Joe team may do this, the Star Wars team seems rather reluctant for whatever reasons. Even if there is a "waiting period" that means no repaints for another three years, and I simply don't have that kind of time to wait around anymore. Specifically for the Gunship deco, means three yeas from late 2026 before we'd potentially see a repaint meaning it too would cost more than it did in 2025. And at the rate of inflation these days compared to twenty years ago that repaint could be $550 by then...
I know all you youngsters at 30 don't care about "time", you've got another 30 years you can wait for stuff. I don't.
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The repaint discussion has always been one of the more interesting parts of a Haslab. Personally, I have no problems with it, but it’s such a hard thing to gauge when it comes to demand, especially if the first run (the Haslab) wasn’t an outright slam dunk. I like that this new Gunship at least exists, but I have no clue if there’s that much of a demand for a repaint of it when the Haslab was such a struggle.
Even if something like a new Y-Wing wasn’t a Haslab, if it was something that ended up on discount, I don’t have high hopes for seeing a repaint in the future. It at least wouldn’t have to go through the battle to exist. That part is nice.
Even if something like a new Y-Wing wasn’t a Haslab, if it was something that ended up on discount, I don’t have high hopes for seeing a repaint in the future. It at least wouldn’t have to go through the battle to exist. That part is nice.
I think reissues or repaints for certain vehicles are definitely a thing of the past, there's just no longer enough support/demand for it to justify production it seems. Somehow they could bury losses in over producing them which oversaturated the market to some extent causing people to buy them on sale as well as multiples because of that savings. You'll never see that happen with HasLab, the price is what it is whether it fails or not. There simply isn't enough people buying them today period to warrant higher production which is partly why they're more expensive, fewer being made thus nowhere to bury any losses. Add to that other inflated costs and repaints become even less likely, pretty much a pipe dream for most things that already reach maximum demand.
Antoc Merrick's X-Wing for example was possibly a break even as it was still in that flux of being a tad pricy but inline with recent prices for said vehicle, some just hadn't adjusted to it yet and still thought they should be $50-60 ships. It seemingly sold though okay, some stores got zero while other got max allotment. But I never saw it go on sale at the discounts that the E-Wing and N1 saw. I think it helped that it was a long sought after item and it being a store exclusive likely meant very limited run which will keep demand up and prices steady. Whether they revisit it or not is anyone's guess but it's unlikely, I'd say a figure reissue is probably more likely possibly in a multipack with other pilots.
I think the fact that a lot of people simply don't have the space to continue buying multiple ships is also a factor, as cool as it sounds it isn't practical. I wound up losing a lot of space to those Eaglemoss Star Trek ships that Master Replicas acquired and were selling off, while small they still add up after about 50-60, and half of them are still in totes until I can find more shelving. I also bought a few of the BSG and Stargate ships, as well as Orville. And I just recently started collecting the Fanhome line. I think I prefer this size for ships as neat displays, and have recently looked into getting the ones for Star Wars by Jazwares just to conserve space.
Antoc Merrick's X-Wing for example was possibly a break even as it was still in that flux of being a tad pricy but inline with recent prices for said vehicle, some just hadn't adjusted to it yet and still thought they should be $50-60 ships. It seemingly sold though okay, some stores got zero while other got max allotment. But I never saw it go on sale at the discounts that the E-Wing and N1 saw. I think it helped that it was a long sought after item and it being a store exclusive likely meant very limited run which will keep demand up and prices steady. Whether they revisit it or not is anyone's guess but it's unlikely, I'd say a figure reissue is probably more likely possibly in a multipack with other pilots.
I think the fact that a lot of people simply don't have the space to continue buying multiple ships is also a factor, as cool as it sounds it isn't practical. I wound up losing a lot of space to those Eaglemoss Star Trek ships that Master Replicas acquired and were selling off, while small they still add up after about 50-60, and half of them are still in totes until I can find more shelving. I also bought a few of the BSG and Stargate ships, as well as Orville. And I just recently started collecting the Fanhome line. I think I prefer this size for ships as neat displays, and have recently looked into getting the ones for Star Wars by Jazwares just to conserve space.
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Yeah, I do think the age of repaints/repacks for some of the larger items is kind of done at this point. Although, I’d say it was showing cracks all the way back during the late 2000s/early 2010s.
I think about some of those bigger items like the Y-Wing Bomber (TCW) and the AT-TE (This one might’ve gotten a special Costco set, though) that could’ve lent themselves to future repaints, but didn’t, which I thought was odd at the time. We still had some like the Falcon and AT-AT pop up a few times, but the bigger items for PT/TCW of that time didn’t see much in terms of reissues/repaints outside of a few of them like the Gunship or the ARC Fighter, but those were from the early to mid 2000s.
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30? Uh, no, not even close.I know all you youngsters at 30 don't care about "time", you've got another 30 years you can wait for stuff. I don't.
But I believe TVC (and Star Wars figures in general) will still end before me. It will certainly go on until at least 2027, but anything beyond that is a matter of the economy, the development of Star Wars under Disney, and the interest of collectors. Currently all indicators point down.
I do share your misgivings about time between releases. I would like to question whether there ever will be a repaint of a hypothetical Y-Wing HasLab with the general slowness of vehicle releases. But then, do I even need two versions? One for the Yavin Hangar scene, that would suffice. I swap the second release for the Pirate Snubfighter with an extra set of pirates.
(I know we won't get the fighter OR the pirates, but one can dream.)
forgot all about the ITT eh?... its ok its the red haired step child of TVC vehicles lol.
It's not a step child, it's a masterpiece, although I wish they would have gotten the cannon turret more screen accurate.
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I did say troop transport...
(I may have forgotten something else; I asked the AI but it was too dumb even for a simple list, useless crap that it is...)
Well, I do think the 2008 financial crisis had a lot to do with it which unfortunately affected the BMF, AT-TE and possibly the Droid transport thing. Too many average folks were strapped for cash as prices increased for luxury items we didn't need. And Legacy was 4-5 years removed from a movie being in theaters, if I recall the Kenner line also experienced issue without movies out to support the line. So that tracks on both accounts, they basically lost the casuals. And in OT's case it's very likely most those kids had grown out of "toys" in mid 80's at ages ten to fifteen, or if you were that age when you first saw it you're now an adult going to college or close to it. If you were only five maybe still had a few years left, but they canceled it.
I'm not sure how it went for the PT youngsters, anyone who was 5-10 in 1999/2002, then being 12-18 in 08/09 experiencing the tail end of greatness. How many 12-18 year old's were waiting with baited breath for those big items? Probably not many, I'd say that only the 20-40 demographic who liked the PT would have been compelled to buy those bigger costly vehicles due to having a steady job and their own place, but as I said that was a bad economic time for a lot of people.
The biggest factor is that toy companies have lost the kids at that prime age of play between 4-8 in general, no amount of " adult collector base" can make up for that loss. Mainly because those people exit all the time due to several factors but that trade off was new kids new being born to replace them at almost double the rate. The tech age really did a number on that industry, possibly far more than any other impact. Because even if there were great movies coming out every three years to keep said IP relevant, kids still walked away from toys in a large way.
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Well said! I guess that’s what I was trying to say, that most people moving forward won’t really have the money for vehicles (we all talk big, but I bet most people on here can’t even really afford to buy FIGURES anymore, much less anything bigger). Walmart must sense this, surely. Of course, everything in their store is going up, so they’re definitely having hard conversations about their next steps as a company, even more than usual.
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I’d say the financial crisis played a factor, but during that run from 2008 to 2012 is when we got those big items and arguably a pretty robust line of PT/OT and even EU stuff, so it felt paradoxical.
The other factor with the big PT items is you had the Clone Wars on TV, which was meant to draw in kids, so I wouldn’t limit the PT crowd to those that started with TPM. Those PT vehicles did have roles in TCW, which at least kept them relevant. The problem really arises if mommy/daddy couldn’t afford to buy them the vehicles they might have wanted, and again, there was the financial crisis going on.
The MTT was also supposed to be a tie-in for the TPM 3-D release (It still felt like an odd choice), so that also seemed like another attempt to pull in the kid market. It does make me wonder if they had a bigger vehicle planned for AOTC 3-D.
This would've been nice. Heck I was hoping the haslab turned out to be this instead of the redo
And then for RotS 3-D.....for play value, designed to actually spray water, lol
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Ya know what's crazy... a pair of vehicles,... fighter sized and mid-sized from the Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2 were shown and while one was a footnote to an episode, another was prominent for the episode.
The Z-95 Headhunter in Episode 5 Season 1 that shoots at Mando and baby Yoda for a few before getting roasted.
But the real gem we need from Mandalorian season 2 is the Imperial Troop Carrier... it's a mid sized vehicle that's very plain but can hold 8-12 figures and deployed them against Mando/Fett/Shan ... give it a pack in plain stormtrooper commander with the red pauldron.
No argument here. I love my ITT's... I added washes and lights to one and it's the command one now. Eventually I'll toss in some special modifications to it as well.
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The Imperial Gunship would be pretty cool to get one day.
I guess in hindsight they could’ve repacked the AT-TE for AOTC 3-D. That would’ve made sense.
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That picture is so appealing I almost can’t take it! I’m going to eBay right now to buy one and set it up like that.
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Packing in a pauldroned commander would be very smart, if you army build the ship you could easily paint the pauldron or leave it off
Isn't the design very similar to the First Order transport? It could play double duty for the three FO army builders out there. Plus the interior was also used for those Rogue One shuttle transports
Isn't the design very similar to the First Order transport? It could play double duty for the three FO army builders out there. Plus the interior was also used for those Rogue One shuttle transports
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Riot Mar's ship is actually a Helix J-104 starfighter, not a Headhunter. There is a model of this in the Altaya vehicle line, but I doubt we'll ever see a TVC model of it; it just didn't have enough screentime and "presence", and we don't get a Riot Mar action figure either.The Z-95 Headhunter in Episode 5 Season 1 that shoots at Mando and baby Yoda for a few before getting roasted.
In the early naughts, we may have, actually, for a twenty. We did get the Porax-38 / Rogue starfighter after all which I can't even remember seeing in the movies. Oh, those were the times.
Although we indeed don't have a spaceworthy troop transport for some reason (I don't count the Lambda, even with its frequent reuse) I must say that I am not a big fan of the design. As a trooper-storage toy, this one and the TFA lander (Atmospheric Assault Lander AAL-1971/9.1 Troop Transport if anyone cares, which seems to be a RL world chronological precursor of the design) are probably nice although with both, the slanted front takes away a lot of standing space. Neither is really interesting though, they're practically shoeboxes. Some TIE-like wing-things or greebles and detailing to improve on the huge flat areas would make them more palatable.But the real gem we need from Mandalorian season 2 is the Imperial Troop Carrier... it's a mid sized vehicle that's very plain but can hold 8-12 figures and deployed them against Mando/Fett/Shan ... give it a pack in plain stormtrooper commander with the red pauldron.
From a toyetic standpoint, it would have been great if both ships (and the AAL-2100/9.5 variant from TROS) had been the same model, so a toy might have been more versatile and could have been inserted in multiple timelines and dioramas. (Not that I would expect Hasbro to make it even then, but there's always scratchbuilding.)
Hasbro Employee: "Hey, Sal, get a load o' DIS guy! He wants ACTION FEATURES!!!"
Other Hasbro Employees: { Laugh uproariously }
3rd hasbro emp...well, we did nerf up some vehicles, so why not
Riot Mar's ship is actually a Helix J-104 starfighter, not a Headhunter. There is a model of this in the Altaya vehicle line, but I doubt we'll ever see a TVC model of it; it just didn't have enough screentime and "presence", and we don't get a Riot Mar action figure either.
In the early naughts, we may have, actually, for a twenty. We did get the Porax-38 / Rogue starfighter after all which I can't even remember seeing in the movies. Oh, those were the times.
Although we indeed don't have a spaceworthy troop transport for some reason (I don't count the Lambda, even with its frequent reuse) I must say that I am not a big fan of the design. As a trooper-storage toy, this one and the TFA lander (Atmospheric Assault Lander AAL-1971/9.1 Troop Transport if anyone cares, which seems to be a RL world chronological precursor of the design) are probably nice although with both, the slanted front takes away a lot of standing space. Neither is really interesting though, they're practically shoeboxes. Some TIE-like wing-things or greebles and detailing to improve on the huge flat areas would make them more palatable.
From a toyetic standpoint, it would have been great if both ships (and the AAL-2100/9.5 variant from TROS) had been the same model, so a toy might have been more versatile and could have been inserted in multiple timelines and dioramas. (Not that I would expect Hasbro to make it even then, but there's always scratchbuilding.)
Holy whiskers kitty cat, ... you're right. Which means whoever did the write up over at Starwars.com either assumed it was a headhunter or maybe it's been changed post release? (though i don't know why) because I specifically remember going to look up his ship back in 2019/20 and it said it was a modified Z-95 Headhunter and haven't really thought about it since until thinking of new starfighter craft we could use from the Mandalorian that would work in the greater Star Wars galaxy.... (yes i know the Mandalorian Fang-fighers exist).
Though I do agree the imp drop carrier does have a lot of wasted troop space for the drop ramp i wouldn't think it needs to be exact to the CGi model in terms of angle allowing slightly more space for figures to stand/sit. I have to point out that a large clamshell shaped GR-75 medium transport was part of the original ESB line as a troop/figure carrier for the Rebel Alliance and Kenner took a few liberties with its shape to make it more figure complimentary.
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