L3-37 - #73
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Meeeeeeee!
I dig her already!
Looks interesting, and I have a feeling once I see the movie, will likely 'definitely need one'. 
I don't believe she is entirely stable!
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Regardless how I like the movie or character this is a cool Droid figure.
For those that saw the movie are there any accessories absent?
For those that saw the movie are there any accessories absent?
I really liked the movie! L3-37 had me cracking up the entire time! Definitely another memorable droid in this new Disney era of SW! The conversation she had with Qi'ra about Lando was freakin' hysterical!
But to answer your question, Garven...I'm not sure she will come with any accessories, but you never know. She's mainly there to serve as Lando's co-pilot (and comic relief) in the film.
But to answer your question, Garven...I'm not sure she will come with any accessories, but you never know. She's mainly there to serve as Lando's co-pilot (and comic relief) in the film.
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While the figure looks good, she's an absolutely rubbish character. About as funny as a knife in the prostate.
YMMV of course.
YMMV of course.
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Cool droid, had some hilarious moments. No missing accessories. No spoilers but I love how she kind of answers a question I've had from the original trilogy for a long time.
The anti-SJW crowd is gonna lose it.
The anti-SJW crowd is gonna lose it.
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Yeah had this been released on Force Friday I would’ve bought in a flash, but I absolutely hated the character. So I’m passing
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I just don't think Lando's orientation or anything of the sort needed to be addressed by the writers or anyone officially. It feels out of place and doesn't matter. I'm gonna try hard to forget that whole mess while watching the movie as it's all utterly pointless.
Glad there aren't any absent accessories, I just remember K2 being shown with an E-11, using a SE-14 and being packed with niether.
Glad there aren't any absent accessories, I just remember K2 being shown with an E-11, using a SE-14 and being packed with niether.
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The anti-SJW crowd is gonna lose it.
I don't really care about this but the movie sort of baits them in with how blatant they are with it. Just sayin'.
Pretty much. I'm assuming 75% of people that see the movie will hate this character and it has nothing to do with politics. But there always has to be a hidden agenda to dislike something this days I guess...
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To be fair, it's far from hidden.
It's such an in your face, fist pumping cliche, I don't whether they're taking the **** or serious by including it.
To me, the "in your face" attitude about it was part of what made it funny. When Lando leaves the cockpit and asks her "Do you need anything?" and she retorts "Equal rights?", to which he groans and rolls his eyes - hysterical!!!
I think they did a great job of balancing both sides.
I think they did a great job of balancing both sides.
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If it floats your boat, all well and good.
To me, it was a dud. Terribly unfunny, unrelenting and very grating.
What exactly would a droid do with equal rights anyway? They're machines, designed for tasks. They're toasters.
Sure, we can feel sorry for their "plight", as it were. But, that largely relies on their silence and ignorace of that plight too. If you have one constantly bleating on and on about it, that mild empathy disappears very, very fast.
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To me, it was a dud. Terribly unfunny, unrelenting and very grating.
What exactly would a droid do with equal rights anyway? They're machines, designed for tasks. They're toasters.
Sure, we can feel sorry for their "plight", as it were. But, that largely relies on their silence and ignorace of that plight too. If you have one constantly bleating on and on about it, that mild empathy disappears very, very fast.
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Loved her, I'll take two please
I think had they left it at the "Equal rights?" line, it would've been funny - but the constant agenda from her was annoying. No one even wants friends like that.
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Serious, I suspect. SJW attempts at humor seem more along the lines of a Maoist struggle session than the actual telling of jokes for comedic effect.
That would be a rather tragic joke: Lando having to put up with a malfunctioning, ambulatory junkheap with attitude problems for reasons.
Indeed.
This has shelf diver written all over it... I can just imagine them at Hasbro HQ spending an hour getting her posed like that for the photo because she keeps toppling
The feet look a little smallish.
You can forget it. If you've seen the trailers, you've seen the extent of the whole "Lando's orientation" thing. It's not addressed in the film past what we've already seen in the trailers.
As for this figure, can't wait to get her. I dug the character, but I guess I can see how some might not. I really do wish we could contain the discussion of "SJWs" and "Disney's agenda" and all that other crap to the movie threads though.
Yes please.
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Exactly, when will they learn their SJW hate becomes so incessant and in your face that they lose any mild empathy they could possibly receive. Two extremes just make the majority roll their eyes and sigh.
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There's nothing whatsoever with people fighting for social justice. Nothing at all.
Hiwever, the problem raises its head when the people bleating on about "social justice" are...
A. Doing it for their own self promotion <- primarilly the main reason why people get pissed off with, so called, SJW's.
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B. Doing nothing at all to really progress social issues in a positive way and simply just talk about it.
And no, Leia wasn't the "first representation of that idea". That idea didn't really exist at the time as it does now. Leia is just a good character. She's not a "strong female character TM" (I hate that phrase. It's so demeaning), or an "SJW character". She's simply a good character that works within the context of the story. She's not a fake political statement, a sop to a certain proportion of the Twitterati, or an awkward gender swap to get a certain demographic to spend their money on your product.
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That should be "There's nothing wrong whatsoever...
Along with Val and Enfys Nest, L3 is the worst character in Solo...
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Well, it doesn't get any more transparent than this.
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OMG.
So, if i only talk about the problems in the society, I'm just a fake person? Should I shut up because I can't fight against every ****ing injustice? Are you serious?
I seriuosly think that, at least, the current society have to be reflected in the contemporary fiction stories.
It can be done well or wrong, related to the narrative, nothing beyond that.
As an example, I love Admiral Holdo characater, but I think she was unnecessary, as his plot could be played by Leia.
In Solo, L3 droid just represents another archetyp from the society, as everything in Star Wars is related to something from the real world. The only question here is "did you enjoy the movie?". When the answer is "I don't like SJW, Kennedy boycott, this is not my Star Wars..." the problem is that we are unable to enjoy a Star Wars movie anymore.
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Sorry, my quote was about this. I can't edit the previous one.
OMG.
So, if i only talk about the problems in the society, I'm just a fake person? Should I shut up because I can't fight against every ****ing injustice? Are you serious?
I seriuosly think that, at least, the current society have to be reflected in the contemporary fiction stories.
It can be done well or wrong, related to the narrative, nothing beyond that.
As an example, I love Admiral Holdo characater, but I think she was unnecessary, as his plot could be played by Leia.
In Solo, L3 droid just represents another archetyp from the society, as everything in Star Wars is related to something from the real world. The only question here is "did you enjoy the movie?". When the answer is "I don't like SJW, Kennedy boycott, this is not my Star Wars..." the problem is that we are unable to enjoy a Star Wars movie anymore.
Haha, yeah, ouch. Next this anti-SJW will probably have a problem with Lando. Cuz, you know...
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Anyway...back to the action figure. I assume the torso will stay intact? I wish some of these "halved" figures could break apart like Maul and Snoke. I guess that is a variation for another day.
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L3 had a ton of heart.
I generally like the quieter, no-bs, more analytical and less bombastic characters like Rex, Val, or Tarkin more than I do the louder, emotions-on-sleeves types like Jar Jar or Hondo or Krennic, but L3 had a serious moral purpose for it, which I respect, and a high level of compassion too.
Among the haters of progress I think it's worth distinguishing between people who hate the values and people who hate the idea that they might have responsibilities beyond themselves and their preferences. While there are a lot of people who oppose progress because they'd prefer a return to something very like the Empire, i.e. a general program of ethnoreligious domination supplemented by cultural chauvinism and economic exploitation, there are also a lot of people who think that progress is bad because it requires the development of moral and political engagement, as well as compassion and the ability to regulate one's expression of emotion accordingly. Lots of people are like DJ, wanting only to turn their backs on other people's problems, or else to have the option to if they want, while never being criticized for it.
The idea that a character like L3, who risked her life and ultimately died in the pursuit of other people's freedom, could somehow be an insincere, inauthentic character just goes to show how ridiculous this mentality is. Lurking behind the idea that all public statements about progress are inauthentic is the desire to, at the very least, evade responsibility for living in the world alongside others. DJ may have been a lamer character, but he's a useful example of this kind of crappiness, of selfishness and cowardice masquerading as insight, because "of course" at bottom everyone is either a selfish ***** or worse. It's not necessarily hate, though it can be, but it's the goal of being able to refuse to lift a finger to help without any loss of status or power, or affection or respect, or money, or whatever the person does value, to insulate oneself from the world's problems and not give a crap, and to be praised for this (as is traditional) rather than condemned for it.
As for the figure, I think it looks nice and hope it stands well. I'm a small scale only person, at least mostly, so I'll be waiting for the wave 4 SWU version...unfortunately for quite a while, given the odd choices Hasbro made about w3 and w4. But congrats to the sixers here, and Hasbro, for what looks like a nice new figure...
I generally like the quieter, no-bs, more analytical and less bombastic characters like Rex, Val, or Tarkin more than I do the louder, emotions-on-sleeves types like Jar Jar or Hondo or Krennic, but L3 had a serious moral purpose for it, which I respect, and a high level of compassion too.
Among the haters of progress I think it's worth distinguishing between people who hate the values and people who hate the idea that they might have responsibilities beyond themselves and their preferences. While there are a lot of people who oppose progress because they'd prefer a return to something very like the Empire, i.e. a general program of ethnoreligious domination supplemented by cultural chauvinism and economic exploitation, there are also a lot of people who think that progress is bad because it requires the development of moral and political engagement, as well as compassion and the ability to regulate one's expression of emotion accordingly. Lots of people are like DJ, wanting only to turn their backs on other people's problems, or else to have the option to if they want, while never being criticized for it.
The idea that a character like L3, who risked her life and ultimately died in the pursuit of other people's freedom, could somehow be an insincere, inauthentic character just goes to show how ridiculous this mentality is. Lurking behind the idea that all public statements about progress are inauthentic is the desire to, at the very least, evade responsibility for living in the world alongside others. DJ may have been a lamer character, but he's a useful example of this kind of crappiness, of selfishness and cowardice masquerading as insight, because "of course" at bottom everyone is either a selfish ***** or worse. It's not necessarily hate, though it can be, but it's the goal of being able to refuse to lift a finger to help without any loss of status or power, or affection or respect, or money, or whatever the person does value, to insulate oneself from the world's problems and not give a crap, and to be praised for this (as is traditional) rather than condemned for it.
As for the figure, I think it looks nice and hope it stands well. I'm a small scale only person, at least mostly, so I'll be waiting for the wave 4 SWU version...unfortunately for quite a while, given the odd choices Hasbro made about w3 and w4. But congrats to the sixers here, and Hasbro, for what looks like a nice new figure...
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No way are you going to get away with making all those who oppose SJW mindsets out to be "DJs (selfishness and cowardice)".... see, there are those out there who know that in the instances of SJW so-called oppression "other people's problems" is disillusionment equating to nothing more than "whining about obstacles of the level that EVERYONE deals with in life in some form, but have the integrity to not try to play politically" (that is, until they've been vilified and push back in defense).
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I didn't say that everyone who's anti-"SJW" is a DJ.
I wish that were true, but actually there are a lot of people who oppose those values specifically out of hatred or an outright appetite for domination. What I actually said was that you can split the anti-SJW crowd into one group that wants a return to the old European programs of ethnoreligious domination like the Crusades, colonialism, or that kind of thing (i.e. those who are like the Empire) and a second, different group that is like DJ. I don't have a way of comparing ratios, but I think it's plain that both groups are common.
Maybe I should further split the DJs into a subgroup of selfish jerks and a different subgroup of those who mean well but sincerely have no idea how much crap happens to women, minorities, LGBT+, ect; who have no idea that it is on average much harder for these groups than others, not that anyone's problems don't matter. I mean heck, just a couple hundred years ago, virtually nothing in historical time, there was a giant effort to violently subject literally the entire world to a white supremacist, religious dominion. (European colonialism following the age of exploration.).
I'm not sure what to make of your statement about people making political gains from their suffering. Isn't that the basis of every revolution and every struggle for liberation everywhere? Unless you hold human experience to be meaningless in the face of some external, mystical domain like some cults do, but in that case you probably wouldn't reference other people's suffering. I'm confused...
In any case, how could anyone not admire a droid freeing her own kind? So many droids in SW are conspicuously people, and if one is upset by injustices done to one's own kind, how can that same feeling not emerge when the same is done to others?
I wish that were true, but actually there are a lot of people who oppose those values specifically out of hatred or an outright appetite for domination. What I actually said was that you can split the anti-SJW crowd into one group that wants a return to the old European programs of ethnoreligious domination like the Crusades, colonialism, or that kind of thing (i.e. those who are like the Empire) and a second, different group that is like DJ. I don't have a way of comparing ratios, but I think it's plain that both groups are common.
Maybe I should further split the DJs into a subgroup of selfish jerks and a different subgroup of those who mean well but sincerely have no idea how much crap happens to women, minorities, LGBT+, ect; who have no idea that it is on average much harder for these groups than others, not that anyone's problems don't matter. I mean heck, just a couple hundred years ago, virtually nothing in historical time, there was a giant effort to violently subject literally the entire world to a white supremacist, religious dominion. (European colonialism following the age of exploration.).
I'm not sure what to make of your statement about people making political gains from their suffering. Isn't that the basis of every revolution and every struggle for liberation everywhere? Unless you hold human experience to be meaningless in the face of some external, mystical domain like some cults do, but in that case you probably wouldn't reference other people's suffering. I'm confused...
In any case, how could anyone not admire a droid freeing her own kind? So many droids in SW are conspicuously people, and if one is upset by injustices done to one's own kind, how can that same feeling not emerge when the same is done to others?
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My mistake.
That group is obviously rotten and, frankly, I don't even see why they're part of this dialogue.... maybe that's why I kinda steamrolled past your anti-SJW/DJ meaning originally.
Yeah... well... I'm not buying into your agenda. Sorry. Statistics... at least in America go against everything you're attempting here... and your cause rings hollow.
Make of it what you just said: People are making political gains from their suffering.
Yes, but I'm not Tommy Robinson... I'm an American in 2018.... and I'm allowed to inform you are misinformed.
If what I said hasn't cleared things up for you, then its on you.
This isn't play-time. This isn't about L3 the character as it exists in the fictional Star Wars galaxy... its about L3 the real-life Disney creation... and that's the context of the L3 branding... the action-figure marketing etc.
