Jyn Erso - Jedha

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We're going to be drowning in Jyn's for years. She's a completely forgettable character. Describe her personality....scowls a lot???
Having been abandoned in some way by the three people who played a role in raising her, only being taught advanced survival tactics and a hatred for the Empire and later, the formal Rebellion, all by people who didn't outwardly care for her and left her at a young age, Jyn wasn't able to trust people and doesn't feel a sense of loyalty. People with those kinds of trust issues have a tendency to fight back even to those who reach out, fearing they could be hurt again in some way or form. Basic psychology. Jyn can't trust anyone, nor any of the galaxy's major factions - so all she can do is try to survive in between the world around her. A lot of scowling, a lot of kicking, and a lot of blaster fire. Changing identities, escaping jail, avoiding entanglements. Unlike Leia or Rey, for example, she has no inherent sense of morality. Jyn doesn't care about anyone or anything, and she would sooner blaster you in an instant than let herself become attached. Friends are for weaklings. Survival of the fittest. Etc.

When the Rebels break her out, she refuses to even talk to them until she is captured again, and even then, is somewhat resentful to the mission they award her. She's cynical to Cassian's positive messaging about the Rebellion, even, but over the course of the mission on Jedha, she is forced to re-evaluate why her father and Saw left, and sees their dedication to the 'greater good' were all about protecting her in the end, and realizes they are both dedicated to a similar cause. Saw and Galen both nod towards themes of hope as well as sacrifice, and so by the time they return to the Yavin Temple, Jyn has chosen to pursue those same ideals - thus her echo of Cassian's words from before. When the Rebellion is reluctant to act, she showcases her newfound sense of purpose by imploring them to continue, but her independent streak recurs - she exhibits anger at the Rebellion for refusing to act, and is willing to go on a mission that she knows is critical without their permission. Cassian and the others' willingness to stand by her despite the Rebellion, meanwhile, shows that she can inspire - and accept - trust.

Jyn has some flaws as a character, and the film could've perhaps done more to illustrate her independence earlier in the film, but sometimes when a character doesn't seem intent on showing emotion, it's a creative choice and not strictly bad acting or writing, nor does it indicate a lack of personality. Edwards made the same creative decision in Godzilla 2014, where it was similarly perceived to be stilted acting. I think that was a worse case than R1, but it also shows a precedent.

I like the character and think Hasbro simply dropped the ball on creating good figures based on her in the basic line. Eadu Jyn is one of the worst figures I think they've released in that format, and Jedha Jyn has bad paint apps and is a little less than dynamic as a figure - especially for casual buyers who already brought the previous one. Both figures were also repacked which didn't help. I don't think the pegwarmer status is based on the character, given I've seen most R1 wave 1 figures pegwarming here or there.

indysolo007 said:
but if we are forced to have a Jyn in this line I would have preferred a new version.
That would have been a good idea on Hasbro's part. They didn't repack the 5L/MS versions of Darth Vader or Yoda, for example.
 
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Wow, lots of hate for my girl in here.... haha I'll be grabbing one of these because c'mon, it's Jyn, and I have the Force Link now so I can make her talk
 
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Jyn's lines with the Force Link:

Rebellions are built on Hope

a squad is heading your way

Ok on my lead

We can fight this

we can stop them

blaster sounds and explosion sound
 
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The problem with Jyn as a character is we never see any on screen development. Yes she has abandonment and trust issues, but we never see that. As a child she's told to go hide...which isn't abandonment it's protection. Cut to her in a cell. What do we know about our hero....nothing. She got arrested for something. What we eventually learn about jyn is based on other characters reading her history back to her. Or talking about their past history in the case of Saw. If you want to have a character have abandonment issues actually show the abandonment. Characters talking about character defining moments that happen off screen is poor delivery. I think jyn had the potential to be a fine character...but they didn't deliver. Instead someone has to read out loud to who the character is to the audience. It's just like the Obi-wan Anakin relationship in the prequels, they talk about past adventures and how they are good friends because of it rather than show it happening. In the OT we see Han save Luke's butt a couple of times and we get it, they bond over on screen moments. Saw and Jyn have a past relationship that we never see, they are left to talk about it. That's a huge missed opportunity. That's what we need to see, the emotions that come with growing attached to Saw only to have him let jyn down. That would harden anyone and had we actually seen that scene we would know who jyn is right away.

Imagine star wars if we skipped the Luke Owen argument about staying on for another season and instead Obi-wan said the expository dialogue "you want to learn about who your father was and get off this rock so come with me etc." All the punch of Luke being conflicted is gone. We don't see the build, hear him ask the questions about his father beforehand.

Or how about this. Obi-wan tells Luke they may have found a pilot but watch out, he's a little rough. I heard he killed someone in this very bar last week. That would suck if that's how we learned about Han. Instead we get an iconic scene with Han shooting greedo. We learn everything we need to know about who he is in that one moment.

Film is a visual medium. If you are talking about who the characters are you aren't properly utilizing the medium.
 
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Anyone else besides me notice that the Force Link Jyn figure has swivel boots? I think its neat. 7 points of articulation is good enough
 
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7 points are good and all but swivel boots aren't much of an improvement. Make it hinged elbows or knees and we're talking :)

I've read somewhere around here that Hasbro is repeating history and we're currently in the EpI/PotJ era again, meaning good sculpts and slightly enhanced articulation after PotF2/2014-2016. Hopefully that means we're getting mainline SA again... after pre-posed magnetic action feature monstrosities for Solo (like the Saga/AotC line) and somewhat decent semi-SA figures with themed bases for Episode IX (like RotS)
 
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Swivel boots is a kind of unusual choice.

Swivel wrists would have been better I guess.
 
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Anyone else besides me notice that the Force Link Jyn figure has swivel boots? I think its neat. 7 points of articulation is good enough
Well, the guy on JTA completely missed it in his review. Wonder if he even bothered 'playing' with the figure since he doesn't like 5 POA figures and just posed it and took pictures.

I have the Walmart one already so not too keen on getting the 7 POA version.
 
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I don't think they are swivel boots. They are separate pieces, but mine appear to be glued in place. I tried twisting one, and it felt like I was going to break it off if I kept going.
 
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Rey was HTF during the initial TFA launch
She wasn't. All around here, it was Kylo Ren and Captain Phasma that were the fast ones to be HTF at first...

...after the movie hit-right at Christmas time-THAT is when all of a sudden Rey was difficult to find. I had already gotten all the ones I wanted from Force Friday. Before the movie, she was not a challenge to find at all for me.

Places around here are still full of Finn's from that time though...
 
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I don't think they are swivel boots. They are separate pieces, but mine appear to be glued in place. I tried twisting one, and it felt like I was going to break it off if I kept going.
Don't know about Jyn, but that's how some of these figures are. My Rey's leg was stuck at the hip and wouldn't move. Felt like it would break. I ran it under hot water and tugged at it a little as if I wanted to take it off and then it loosened up and I can move it now.
 
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Just noticed the swivel boots on mine too. I honestly don't feel that this was intentional- what's even the point? Swivel wrists yes, but her ankles? Only works if her knees bend, which they don't. I don't know maybe they just retooled the figure to add force link and made her boots separate pieces
 
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I have the Eadu Jyn and that's enough for me. I honestly wish they would've made an OT Leia instead but that's just my opinion.
 
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I have the Eadu Jyn and that's enough for me. I honestly wish they would've made an OT Leia instead but that's just my opinion.
I'd love to get more OT Leia's especially with the Force Link... We still need updated version of Ewok Dress Leia and Bespin Escape Leia
 
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Got this today, and I can tell you this--- the head/hair/face and overall paint apps are amazing looking. It's worth dropping your RO one for this one.

That said, the boots are absolutely NOT articulated on mine. They are separately molded pieces, but they don't swivel. I even heated them up to see if they're stuck; they still don't move. I remember at least one reviewer said they swivel. Anyone else have one to confirm this (for what it's worth)?


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