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I agree that a dinosaur isn't the ultimate killing machine, but the cynic in me says if the technology exists there will be some person/group/govt/entity that would do everything they could to gain ownership for whatever kind of perverted means (warfare, extortion, etc) that they could. And I think that the plan to use the Raptor squad against the Indominus failing is a good call back to the chaos theme of the first movie (none of these things will work the way man wants them to just because that's what man wants).

I'm not super concerned with keeping things tightly realistic in the franchise (I LOVED the end of fallen Kingdom), but I don't think in-universe, the government or military would be so quick to elimainte all the dinosaurs. Just because they're loose, doesn't automatically unite the world against a dinosaur threat, we wouldn't be calling troops abroad home to stop them. Plus the fact that other countries/individuals have dinosaurs, it may be a fight-fire-with-fire scenario. Either way I'm super pumped for whatever they have planned for Dominion.

Back to the toyline, I actually saw TWO Claire figures at Meijer last night. I've never seen one single packed figure in-store and last night i saw two! A friend of mine somehow saw her a month ago and picked her up for me because I wanted her stego hatchling (I got the gyrosphere set when it first hit), so I left those two on the peg.
 
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Yeah it really is ironic that raptors, in the first film, are def. the heel "villain" dinosaurs. Even Rexy is portrayed somewhat heroically, I mean sure Genaro's death is terrifying...but end of the day, Rexy eats the greedy cowardly lawyer, then progresses to safe our heroes at the end. Raptors were the foes, constantly ominous and foreshadowed. It's kind of interesting that really, they do physically appear in the film pretty late in the game, but they're sooooo built up to. I think once they do finally show up, it's like "Oh CRAP!"

But now, it's sort of like Godzilla. Kids sleep with little stuffed Blue dolls. Kids aren't SCARED of them anymore. But I do have to say, I don't think the raptors were entirely declawed like, say, Godzilla has been. The OTHER raptors in the pack are pretty darn brutal and even Blue CAN be at times. But yeah, they're just portrayed as more heroes now. The weaponizing dinosaurs concept is just inherently silly. I mean we have drones, bunker busting missiles, on and on....what EXACTLY does a military DINOSAUR cloning branch really offer to the battlefield that isn't already more effective elsewhere? I mean I COULD roll with it in Jurassic World in context. Alright, they're on an isolated island and there's a giant genetically engineered killing machine on the loose. Alright, fine, use the raptors in THIS situation. PLUS the plan doesn't work anyway. But the ACTUAL military taking dinosaurs to say, Iraq...is totally cornball. See and that too is an issue with the next one coming. I mean let's be realistic, I get dinosaurs would totally cause panic and a problem on the main land....AT FIRST...but come on, within a few days, the military would solve the problem with pretty ease. So I think, what they have to do, is basically keep running with the sort of green peace idea that Fallen Kingdom made and how it apparently would be deemed unethical TO kill them. I think that's really the only way to do this plot and have a continual and realistic threat that CONTINUES. Because, sure, stuff like Battle at Big Rock would happen the first few days, but it's not a lengthy threat. The military would ice them relatively quickly.

Yeah I'm still pretty ticked we're seemingly never going to get Nedry, Mr. Arnold, the kids, Genaro, and heck...even Lost World characters. Plus also, the tour vehicle at LEAST. I mean how, HOW could they not give us that? They can give us like 6 repainted Triceratops, but they can't realize that the tour vehicles WOULD sell? And while I do like the large amount of animal species they're giving us, it's waaaaaay more elaborate than I think any of us expected, they're starting to get redundant now. It's like I've said: If I have a Rex or Allosaurus, what's REALLY all that impressive about...say....a Tarbosaurus? Sure it's a nice figure, but for me, it's just basically something we already have. It's not unique enough. And we're getting overrun with that sort of stuff. Repaints or dinosaur species that really aren't that exciting...mostly. That's why I like the REAL unique stuff like, say, Plesiosaurus, Quetz, Sarcho, etc. At least they stand out!
That is the exact beauty of the first film and certainly the "JAWS" effect that Steven learned so well - don't show the villain or the terror until the proper moment. Every thing else foreshadows and completely builds the suspense so that the impact is severely FELT by the audience. I feel nothing much watching JW, aside from the Apatasuarus scene. That was actual practical effects, so no wonder. Making it look real and feel real helps immensely. I want to truly feel and believe that the characters that I care about (another HUGE lesson in filmmaking) are in danger and that they may not survive. JP nailed this at every corner, especially with the isolated raptor scenes of Muldoon and the kids in the kitchen. Epic!
 
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After getting my Amber Collection Owen and Blue out of the package....these are really nice figures. I hope there's more to this line beyond Nedry and the Dilo. I think Claire with Stiggy is a no-brainer. It might not be popular, but I think Grant should have been the first figure in the line, definitely paired with a raptor. I'd like to see Ellie too.
 
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Hey Koosh - any idea where I might find the Mercedes A.A.V. Santana Matchbox? I see they are only available on eBay from foreign countries or in one huge lot. I really want this to complete my set of Legacy stuff, especially being unique to The Lost World. I'm going to check a few other spots...
 
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Paleontology was always my dream...but it is misunderstood. It's not truly about the study of dinosaurs, as fun as that is. It's the study of extinction. How to learn from it. How to hopefully prevent it. So my response to the corona virus is...and hear me out because (as always) I'm unconventional and just wanted to share something optimistic.

The ending of Jurassic Park is my favorite film ending and one of my favorite moments in the series.

Our characters have just escaped from Isla Nublar and are flying to safety. Hammond is in deep self-reflection, Malcolm is silently looking out the window, Ellie is fondly looking at Grant and the kids, the kids are cuddled up to Grant, and Grant is fondly looking down at them. All of them are silent, having just escaped the Park, and having been humbled by nature.

Grant looks out the window to see a flock of pelicans flying alongside the helicopter, almost as if they are escorting the group off the island. Grant smiles as if he recognizes the irony of the situation. They have just escaped the prehistoric counterparts of the birds that he is now looking at. I like to think that the birds represent evolution. Throughout the film, we've been reminded that birds are dinosaurs.

The park was built as a tribute to a long-dead past. A dream to see animals that have been dead for tens of millions of years. And yet the dinosaurs never really left us, they just evolved, they changed. Hammond and InGen and to a lesser extent Grant are obsessed with the past. Obsessed with a world that is long gone. The dinosaurs on the island aren't even technically 100% real dinosaurs, they're ghosts. Brought back from DNA fragments and completed with modern animal DNA. Sure, they look like dinosaurs, sound like dinosaurs, and in some ways are dinosaurs. However, they'll never be 100% like their prehistoric ancestors. The park is artificial.

And now as the group escapes the island we are confronted with real dinosaurs. The birds are a reminder that life goes on, that nature goes on, that time doesn't stop for anyone, and we have to appreciate the here and now.

All the characters in the film have evolved at this point. Grant is ready to embrace fatherhood, the kids have found a father figure, Malcolm is finally quiet, and Hammond has has realized the consequence of unchecked idealism. Hammond has learned that he cannot control nature and that life will always break free. The birds are a reminder to the characters and the audience that time always marches on. That while it's normal to look back at the past with fondness, you should always remain mostly in the here and now.

I love that this theme isn't expressed with a single line of dialogue. It's a completely visual moment that ties the thematic core of the film together.
And as John Williams plays us out we are reminded that everything is alright now. Everything is safe. That life marches on and we should just appreciate it while we're here. Life finds a way...and so shall we.
 
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Only relatively new news I've see is this: https://www.collectjurassic.com/040930-2/

Nothing especially exciting...mostly (surprise surprise) repaints. Only interesting ones are what appears to be an entirely new Dilophosaurus...and while the color scheme is leaps and bounds better than the God awful Barney purple Spitter, something just looks off to me. It's the neck. Mattel just keeps insisting on a non-removable frill and it really is annoying...especially when they always feels this need to have it articulated and it just gives this really ugly jointed look. Scutosaurus is the other new creature. Up until now, I THINK the only Permian age creature ever done was Dimetrodon. I may be wrong though. I'm not especially familiar with this thing...and I'm not really sure how accurate it is to the real creature. I did some digging and in some depictions it looks like the toy has way too many horns, but in other depictions it seems it's about right. I really don't know what's accurate. The figure is...OKAY. I'm not blown away by it because it's just so...strange looking. It almost looks like a SW alien more than anything that ever actually existed. Plus I think the figure looks a bit cartoonish. So for me, nothing all that exciting.
 
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Yeah the only thing that will excite me for Mattel Jurassic at this point is anything Legacy. They need to bring it back in a BIG way. I can't believe they squandered an entire line like this after coming out of the gates so strong. I mean, really, the Brachi and Lost World Rex set were the last things we got of note and one was an entire repack/repaint of one undersized and one oversized dino. Mattel has teams for this, yet with their infinite talents and resources, they can't figure out size and scale - especially for a collector line? The fact that we haven't gotten a proper Rexy yet from JP1 is an insult to the whole line - SHE IS THE FLAGSHIP! The sculpting is spot-on, but we need SCALE.
 
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This isn't really news, but is pretty cool. This guy did what if designs and knocked it out of the park. He covered literally every non-made dinosaur/animal I've wanted and then some. As much as I dig the Edmontosaurus, it is rather odd they went with it over the Corythosaurus as it's actually (albeit briefly) in a film. I mean realistically, they could cut some cost down and just give us the Para of Edmonto body with a new head for the Cory. They're really not drastically different.

I really want Kentrosaurus, maybe my most wanted species. It's rather odd that not a single Stegosaur has been made except for THE Stegosaur. We've gotten multiple species for most all the other dinosaur types.

Really exciting to me would be more aquatic and he did concepts for all the species I want. Dunkleosteus would be REALLY DIFFERENT, the first prehistoric fish we'd ever have in the line. I'd assume though, if they ever did more sea creatures outside of Mosasaurus and Plesiosaurus, that Icthyosaurus would be the winner.

Apatosaurus better happen. We need more sauropods and that's one FROM a movie too. You really could do it the same way as the Brachio.

I'm not really interested in any more hybrids though. Same for large scale carnivores like Gorgosaurus and Giganotosaurus. They're just not THAT interesting or that different from what we've already gotten. We've already got so many upper medium to large scale carnivores. We have Allosaurus, Metriacanthosaurus, Carnotaurus, Ceratosaurus, Albertosaurus, Spinosaurus, Suchomimus, Tarbosaurus, Majungasaurus (coming), Irritator (coming), Cryolophosaurus, Siats Meekerorum (coming), Concavenator, Baryonyx, and of course Tyrannosaurus. I'm probably even forgetting some. That pretty much covers every really unique looking upper medium to large carnivore...and even some of those eventually got a bit repetitive like, really, do we really need a Tarbosaurus or Irritator, what do they offer that the Albertosaurus, Allosaurus, Metriacanthosaurus, Baryonyx, and Suchomimus didn't already really cover?

SO I think doing animals like Gorgosaurus, Giganotosaurus, Carcharodontosaurus, and Acrocanthosaurus are just whipping a dead horse. To most people, it's effectively just a more obscure Tyrannosaurus. I mean, to most people so is Tarbosaurus and Albertosaurus. They legit have to create exaggerated features to make them appear most unique than they actually were.

As for 6'', well dinosaurs would be fairly limited. We have more than enough Velociraptors and at least we know we're getting a Dilophosaurus. They could do Pachycephalosaurus, Gallimimus, Stiggy, maybe a Pteranodon. You could always do a Compy packed in with a figure. Pretty sure everything else from the films would just be too big. I'd ASSUME they'll get to Grant, Ellie, Muldoon, and Claire eventually...it is somewhat odd we're getting Nedry before all of them, especially considering we didn't get him AT ALL in 3''. But at least we're getting SOMETHING Nedry.
 
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Yes, I wish they would make a dilo that has a screen accurate paint job, which also has a removable frill. I’m almost tempted to get a JP3 ReAc Attack one for an adult version. I have a diorama in mind, and I think that’s probably my best bet for displayability.

Aside from that, the only other dinosaurs I really want to see are a big apatosaurus, a corythosaurus, and a segiosaurus. I am hoping they eventually release the stupid Franklin figure so I buy a few for the Microceratops too.

Humans on the other hand...I’ll buy anything they offer. I absolutely would give someone’s left arm for a pair of JP Explorers too. Those are essentially at the top of my list as far as I’m concerned.
 
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Humans on the other hand...I’ll buy anything they offer. I absolutely would give someone’s left arm for a pair of JP Explorers too. Those are essentially at the top of my list as far as I’m concerned.
I'm massively bummed that the action figure line seems to be a thing of the past at the moment. had high hopes for more figures from all the JP films.

100% agree that I'd love to get a few of the JP Explorers too. my favorite vehicle from the films
 
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I've never been big on hybrids, but l will say the Stegoceratops is one of the cooler designs. MAN did Hasbro misuse the JW license. Those toys were hideous. I'm sure kids liked them...but ugh. They didn't even give some Raptors their signature claws. How do you forget that? Mattels linecwas a true blessing and savior.
 
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I've never been big on hybrids, but l will say the Stegoceratops is one of the cooler designs. MAN did Hasbro misuse the JW license. Those toys were hideous. I'm sure kids liked them...but ugh. They didn't even give some Raptors their signature claws. How do you forget that? Mattels linecwas a true blessing and savior.
Agreed - super fugly dinos! Remember that "glowing" flesh wound BS, like, when since the Predator has an organic creature (not alien, mind you) have glowing blood lol?
 
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Agreed - super fugly dinos! Remember that "glowing" flesh wound BS, like, when since the Predator has an organic creature (not alien, mind you) have glowing blood lol?
I read that so wrong at first....but I have to repeat it because it's hysterical. I read it as basically you saying...they glowed...because the predator has a (and this is testing the sensor here) orgasm creature. LMFAO! Which I suppose ah...well...you wouldn't even need a black-light to see where he did his deed, more than likely. LMFAO!

But in all seriousness, reading it not so fast, yeah man. They did REALLY questionable things with the line. I assume it tanked and that caused the brand transfer, but I don't know that. But I was actually working at TRU when the line hit and it just didn't seem to sell great. HOW do DINOSAURS not sell great? Cheap generic dinosaurs even sell, dollar store ones, but these rotted? That says something. The JP branding demands more. You can get away with selling dinos that aren't...ah...super quality. They're mostly for really little kids. I had tons and loved them as a toddler. But JP demands a level of respect, a higher quality. Not necessarily scientific accuracy, but just better quality, if that makes sense. Hasbro didn't deliver. You always have one side where just the screw holes are totally eyesores. You have garage sculpts. You have gimmicks, which for dinos I'm not opposed to, but these gimmicks make the sculpt even MORE an eyesore. Just they completely went half-a$$ed on the line. I mean the JP3 line kind of started where the JW line would go...but even that was better at least. I still think the JP3 Pteranodon is pretty good.

So it really makes me think...end of the day...sure, we're pretty critical of Mattel's JWFK/Legacy line...but end of the day, we were actually pretty lucky when you consider it. Sure repaints are old hat, enough is enough. Sure they didn't give us nearly as many humans or vehicles we deserved. But darn, when they nailed it...THEY NAILED IT. Over all, despite the warts, I saw the Mattel JP line is a huge success...just one with some shortcomings.
 
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Pretty sure you can be organic and alien. :)
Haha true - but you get my drift. That feature was atrocious, and not only that, but it was permanent instead of being able to be hidden. It was like all dinos were just permanently slashed, but wait, if you give it a nudge now it's pulsating with light because apparently organs do that!
 
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Pretty sure you can be organic and alien. :)
Koosh, I had asked you above but it got buried, any good tips for finding Eddie's Mercedes Santana - I have an eBay alert for it and I see a few from Europe going or like $15 a pop - but a few did sell for around $3 I saw. Can't find this thing anywhere and it's the last one I need other than the Lost World dirt bike
 
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Did anybody collect the Dino Rvial cards? I was wondering how many cards were produced in the USA. I thought they were fun.
 
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Did anybody collect the Dino Rvial cards? I was wondering how many cards were produced in the USA. I thought they were fun.
I thought they were fun. I wanted to download the app to scan them all and see what's on there but I never got around to it.
 
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Friendly heads up, when I was on Brickseek today I noticed a deal for the Ankylosaurus Roarivor at $2.50 at Wal-Mart! Def. check to see your areas, it's a great dino and one of my faves from Mattel. If I didn't already buy I'd certainly drive out to get it for that cheap price.
 
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Friendly heads up, when I was on Brickseek today I noticed a deal for the Ankylosaurus Roarivor at $2.50 at Wal-Mart! Def. check to see your areas, it's a great dino and one of my faves from Mattel. If I didn't already buy I'd certainly drive out to get it for that cheap price.
Now is it the original or the repainted? If original...l may pick one up then.
 
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Well folks...IT'S HERE! It's REALLY ODD TOO. I was just thinking LAST NIGHT "When are we going to see Nedry and the Dilo?"



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I am VERY HAPPY with how these turned out. MUST BUY for me. Also guys, FINALLY, FINALLY, we're able to have a Dilo WITHOUT the frill! YAY! Dilo def. if the start of the entire Amber collection IMO. Something fun too? At this scale, you COULD use it as the book version of an adult full grown Dilo from the book (thought the color in the book is different) for the 3'' figures.
 
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The Dilo is perfect. I'll definitely be getting two.

Nedry is pretty good too. The Barbasol can is a great accessory. My only complaints would be the hands look very similar, and the Dilo spit looks more like he fell face first into one big pile of.....dino droppings. Should be more black or a dark blue IMO.
 
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I think Nedry's elbow joints look strange, but it might be something that makes the articulation a lot more fun in the long run. I'm in for one of each!
 
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So I wonder what's next. Alan Grant from the original seems inevitable...I wonder who they'd pair him with though. Maybe a Gallimimus? Muldoon and Ellie also seem pretty much a sure bet eventually. Due to scale restrictions though, there isn't all that many dinosaurs possible. Pteranodon would be awesome.
 
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I can't help but feel totally let down by the Nedry release knowing that we should have easily gotten a 3.75" JP Dilo and Nedry. I'm certainly happy for the 6" fans, the pack-ins are so great. They need to do these 2 pack styles for the 3.75"! It's such a missed opportunity
 
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Well folks...IT'S HERE! It's REALLY ODD TOO. I was just thinking LAST NIGHT "When are we going to see Nedry and the Dilo?"



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I am VERY HAPPY with how these turned out. MUST BUY for me. Also guys, FINALLY, FINALLY, we're able to have a Dilo WITHOUT the frill! YAY! Dilo def. if the start of the entire Amber collection IMO. Something fun too? At this scale, you COULD use it as the book version of an adult full grown Dilo from the book (thought the color in the book is different) for the 3'' figures.
This also begs the question, why not do a soft goods rain coat for Nedry? That is a no-brainer - you get 2 figures that way instead of permanent raincoat look, which is such a specific scene. He def. needs to be fatter too - are they trying to put Nedry on a diet or something!? It's like Mattel didn't want to use too much plastic and got cheap. The dude was HUGE in that movie!
 
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Even though he doesn't look so big-bellied, his legs look REALLY short, so I think he'll scale pretty well with Malcolm. Who, btw, was recently spotted on clearance for $7 at Gamestop. So if anyone is weary about getting JP in this scale, that's a pretty friendly price to test the waters on. Of the 4 I have, he's the only one I haven't opened yet but theyre all good figures.
 
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So I wonder what's next. Alan Grant from the original seems inevitable...I wonder who they'd pair him with though. Maybe a Gallimimus? Muldoon and Ellie also seem pretty much a sure bet eventually. Due to scale restrictions though, there isn't all that many dinosaurs possible. Pteranodon would be awesome.
Assuming the Amber Collection is going to be sticking with the same sized dinos I think any of the following are possible:

Gallimimus
TLW Male a.k.a. Tiger Velociraptor
TLW Female Velociraptor
TLW Pachycephalosaurus
JP/// Male Velociraptor
JP/// Female Velociraptor
JP/// Pteranodon
Echo
Delta
JP/// Pteranodon (though I don't care personally, I thought they were goofy looking without the big crest)

With this line now being carried by Entertainment Earth and Amazon, I could also see it expanding to include larger dinos at some point.
 
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My very first thought, during both the announcement and the reveal, was how disappointing it is not to have a 3.75 scale Nedry.

In a perfect world, we would still get him, Lex and Tim, Genaro, Mr. Arnold, a generic pink shirt JP Jeep driver, and a generic JP loading team crew member. And of course the Explorers as well. I’d die happy with even half of those offerings.
 
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My very first thought, during both the announcement and the reveal, was how disappointing it is not to have a 3.75 scale Nedry.

In a perfect world, we would still get him, Lex and Tim, Genaro, Mr. Arnold, a generic pink shirt JP Jeep driver, and a generic JP loading team crew member. And of course the Explorers as well. I’d die happy with even half of those offerings.
Exactly - and the perfect thing would be including those more bland figures like the pink shirt driver and the loading team member with some sort of dino set. I mean, who WOULDN'T buy the raptor pen, female raptor and then the loading team member with shock prod and hard hat? Instant sale for so many people. Price it around $30. Make a raptor pen with an alternate raptor guard member with hardhat and M16 or something - maybe include Lex or Tim with that - that way the less popular humans can be sorted in there, making the whole set more in demand. You essentially force collectors to buy $40 worth of toys for one small figure. That's good business, though I wouldn't feel forced in the least because I'd want it all!

Ditto on Generro, maybe get a toilet shack that can be destroyed easily with his figure. Include an Ellie or Muldoon (or both) with raincoats and flashlights. Nedry and the Dilo is a perfect set. They could do Grant and the kids with dirt and Grant with no hat and a Gallimimus as well. Give Grant his raptor claw and a broken egg. Maybe even a piece of fence to go with it. These kinds of diorama pieces would be to die for! Mattel just doesn't get it at all.
 
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I agree, totally. I think there’s sustainability in the line, it just needs to be handled well. The Hammond figure was proof enough for demand and the ability to use fan channel sites to sell more niche items on.
 
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