- Nov 3, 2002
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I have yet to see one in a store. None of the WM's by me have anything in stock. Seeing several shelves of lightsabers and rarely a couple of the 6 inch. Both of which I do not collect.
'member not to long ago when it was speculated that these wouldn't come back in stock after the first sell out. 'member? LOL!Again, this is hilarious & ironic. I.e., this Jabba's Palace set was something that people were clamoring over this past Spring, and some collectors (myself included) weren't sure this was ever going to be made available en masse @ retail. Now, it's not only a lot easier to find - but it's going on sale. Wow.
I've never seen more than 1-2 at any given time in my local Wally World, but it seems obvious this set will not be too tough to find for most collectors.
We were assured by a frequenter of this thread that we needed to buy from the people (definitely not scalpers) who were fortunate enough to order 15 or more sets, otherwise we were never going to see them again.'member not to long ago when it was speculated that these wouldn't come back in stock after the first sell out. 'member? LOL!
That happened to me once on a different toy. I thought I was getting a good deal, but the order was canceled. They told me it was a pricing errror.Still can't find these in stores out here and the order I placed for $35 earlier in the day just got cancelled....I guess there are more collectors out here than the rest of your parts...
Agree 100% that it would be great to see more OT-specific playsets. However, to be honest I don't see this Jabba's Palace set as the first of many, for several reasons:Managed to score one of these at Walmart in the flesh. Skiff too. Great pieces. The fact we got a playset really came out of left field. The fact it's pretty screen accurate and collector oriented is even more shocking. But of course, this has my head spinning into what if territory. Why would they JUST do this? I saw an idea for a Dagobah one mentioned. That's just a must IMO. Include the cave and Yoda's hut, rocks to levitate, snakes, maybe even vines to swing from. I'd love a screen accurate Carbon Freezing Chamber. Heck, you could make it light-up! I'd say the cantina should be a shoo-in. At least booths and the bar, which could also give us some much needed updated Cantina aliens like the band. The Emperors Throne Room, the Ewok village, Echo base, Death Star rooms, Bespin rooms, so much potential here. I hope they continue to do more like this and it's not just a one and done sort of thing.
That is true. Calling it a playset really is rather generous, it's more like...set pieces or accessories than a sincere playset. It's funny you mention as just the other day, I was thinking that I hope they'd do sort of add on sets to basically "build" Jabba's Palace. I was thinking if they did a floor with the grate and a working trap door, you could do a rancor put to elevate the floor on top off so people can fall in. You could do the floor with a place to set Jabba's throne as well as the spit/fireplace behind him and the archway and back wall. Maybe even a Jawa with a fan all on top of the working opening and closing grate and trap door. Then release a rancor pit with opening door and maybe even a little pipe system to make the "fall" more screen accurate rather than a figure just "plop" falling in. The put it all on top of. Could even to a last set for the band. All these combined would be pretty epic. But well...the likelihood of this happening is well...pretty slim.Agree 100% that it would be great to see more OT-specific playsets. However, to be honest I don't see this Jabba's Palace set as the first of many, for several reasons:
- For one thing, it's a fairly minimal set - yes, it looks great, but it's only a portion of Jabba's throne room wall. To really get a true Jabba's throne room set, we would need at least 7-8?! or more) other similar sets; maybe they could start including the floor with some sets - because the throne room isn't complete without the floor. However - even if they came out with a playset like this once a year, it would take 10 (or more) years to finish off just Jabba's palace. And, this is not even including the Rancor pit (though not sure how that would connect to the palace). Here's a nice 1983 model which is a great example of how a Jabba's Palace should look, though I don't ever see this happening for figures in the 3.75" scale:
Jabba The Hutt Throne Room Action Scene 1/63 Plastic AMT/ERTL Model Kit - starwarsmodels.com - The Star Wars Model Kit GalleryA complete resource for information on Star Wars models and model kits. Features thousands of pictures, kit descriptions, buildups and more. Also includes a model building service.www.starwarsmodels.com
-When it comes to additional OT playsets from other environments, there are definitely a plethora of others that Hasbro/Disney could release - i.e. Death Star, numerous Tattoine environments, Hoth, Cloud City, ANH Cantina, Ewok Village/Bunker, etc. The problem is that whenever Hasbro has done something like this in the modern line (1995-on), it ends up being half-@$$ed/sub-par. Examples include:
-The Sarlaac Pit (Target exclusive).
-The Lars Homestead (TRU exclusive)
-The Death Star corridor/DS escape small, cheap sets (1996)
-The Hoth environment (1997) - very small & cheap
-The Endor Bunker (1997) - also small & cheap
For Hasbro to really do a huge, elaborate playset with all of the trimmings, I expect it would have to be treated somewhat like the Sail barge, both in the way it's sold (kickstarter format?!/online-only) and about the same price ($500.00) - which would be way too expensive for most collectors including myself).
That being said - I would be all for smaller, less expensive playsets - as long as they weren't too small/minimal. I.e., something like the relatively recent BB-8 TLJ playset (with Snoke's throne room, etc.) would be cool - though I would be surprised if anything like this came out for the OT.
That also being said, I would rather see no new playsets at all - than see ones that were similar to the crap we got in the '90's & 200X's.
Yes, many of the Vintage late '70's/'80's SW playsets were, overall, great. Especially impressive were:I just hope future playsets will feature plastic bases and floors and be one unified piece instead of just boring walls. Yes, it works for Jabba's and yes I love mine, but playsets should be multiple environments or scenes within the same place. Kenner really had it right with the Dagobah playset back in the day, it's like a 4 in one set. Dark Side cave, Yoda's hut, Luke's training and levitation area, and the swampy bog that R2 can get "stuck" in. That's the kind of creativity and variety we need to see in future playsets. I'm all for realism, but include as much as you can WITHIN that realism. The Kenner Hoth sets were like this too, really cool plastic snow trenches, exploding Probe Droid, blast off parts, and the hanging area for Luke's feet to recreate the Wampa scene....
I wish the Walmarts I frequent looked like this!
I agree, that's why I left those cardboard ones off my list. I guess back in the day they were pretty cool, coming with 3 figures in baggies I believe and at least providing kids without the ability to buy a walker or sand crawler a semblance of one. Kenner was cool to do a lower priced batch, but like you said, I've been waiting decades for Hasbro to finally do a playset the right way with full realism, like the original Ewok Village. The Mustafar and Geonosis playsets were close, but a bit underwhelming in size and features. I just imagine an awesome Hoth Trench set today and what it could look like with the absurd detail that Hasbro can dish out, not to mention some fun exploding features and maybe even a place in the snow for the turrets that we already own from the Legacy era sets. They may have even done a TVC style battle back with the Satellite looking turret. I know I bought it. I'd personally love to see a fully-fledged Echo Base command complete with a small hangar area, mission control with consoles, med bay with bacta tank and a cave area attache for the Wampa. I know the Wampa scene takes place much further away, but it would be a very cool inclusion. Could have an ION cannon on the side and a shield generator that blows up as well. It would essentially be like a huge version of the Kenner Mini Hoth World from back in the day. That to me is the dream kind of playset. Ditto for a Death Star. Ditto for a Bespin. Ditto for an Ewok Village. These are all prime candidates that I hope get made.Agree completely that this new Jabba's playset is more of a background "environment" than anything else. Actually calling it a playset is misleading, since - as cool as it looks - there's honestly not much to this.
Yes, many of the Vintage late '70's/'80's SW playsets were, overall, great. Especially impressive were:
Imperial Attack Base (Hoth) - one of the best playsets ever made.
Probot & Rebel Turret playset (Hoth) - also fantastic
Ewok Village - excellent
Dagobah - clever design, which - as you said - was 4 different environments
However, not all of them were that impressive. Even as a kid at the time, I didn't like the cheap/sub-par elements like the cardboard backdrop for the creature cantina & the Sandcrawler cardboard backdrop on the Tattoine "playset".
As a kid & even more as an adult, I have really wanted Hasbro to pull out all the stops & make huge OT playsets that are improvements over the Vintage ones, i.e. no cardboard backdrops, large enough that there is "playability", etc. The Sail Barge was obviously awesome (didn't get this due to the price/size, but am glad it was made) - but, I consider this more of a huge vehicle than a playset.
Unfortunately, I don't see that Hasbro/Disney will ever release substantial, new OT playsets because they may not sell @ retail. I.e., I'm thinking a really big (but not huge) set with all the trimmings would be roughly $100 - $150 retail. And, in either the late '90's/early 200X's I remember reading that Hasbro was not focusing on playsets because of the expense - i.e., either the cost of making them was too high, and/or the retail cost would've been too high - and they didn't think the sets would sell as a result.
That being said, the superb Sail Barge selling well is a good indication that there are collectors who are willing to fork over their hard-earned cash if the product is substantial & iconic enough.
It's very telling that the only "playsets" we've gotten in the past several years have been associated with the new films, i.e. the BB-8 "head" playset for TLJ, and the more recent SW: A Solo story cardboard backdrop playsets. I don't think these sold that well, either.
Just proves some people can be sensible and wait rather than need to have it immediately. I still paid regular retail for it - any OT playset Hasbro puts out I can pretty much guarantee I'll buy it for whatever the retail price is, because I want to support the manufacturing of playsets (a rarity the past 2 decades) with my dollar. But I'll never give in to those absurd eBay twits hosing people for hundreds of dollars just to have it first. No thanks. I'm glad this has come down in price because I really think it's a set every fan can enjoy.People who paid $100 on Ebay have to be excited.