Is SW 3.75" collecting Dead and Buried?

[War_in_The_floor]

Whoa, if ANY of those are troop builders that's going to be a financial STRAIN!

 

[Wookieman26]

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[Wookieman26]

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I usually hate being wrong, but in this case I'm glad I was overthinking everything


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[i_know]

30-40, meaning 40-50, so we can expect 50-60, definitely not less than 60-70.

 

[darth_sidious]

How many repacks though? I'm willing to bet at least 50% of the total amount released.

 

[Billy_Ray]

Everybody just discard my last few posts. JTA has confirmed to me that this WILL be a 40-50 figure per year line!

What do you mean they "confirmed it to you"? There's nothing on their page about there being 40-50 figures per year

 

[Idpullthecurtain]

Hasbro says a lot of stuff..... We'll see!

 

[Wookieman26]

What do you mean they "confirmed it to you"? There's nothing on their page about there being 40-50 figures per year

I had posted in the comments section saying I don't expect much figures in the line. This was a reply.

 

[Wookieman26]

30-40, meaning 40-50, so we can expect 50-60, definitely not less than 60-70.

I had misquoted at first. I meant to say 30-40.

 

[DarkManX]

if JTA isn't full of it, the 30-40 figures is alright but sounds like more than it is. Kylo, Finn, Rey, Phasma, FO stormtrooper,death trooper, jyn, cassian, K2, and Poe (likely repacks) drops that down to 20-30. Plus however many repacks from the TLJ black series. That leaves roughly 10-15 open slots.

 

[TK_842]

I guess we can expect at list 25/30% repacks next year. Also, trying to look to the bright side of things, it took Walmart two full years to release 30 figures. Situation is getting better.

 

[Maverick10126]

So repack speculation anyone? Because we already know it won't be "30-40" all new figs. We already know Rey...

If they were smart they'd buy back all the Finn and Poe's and repack them.

 

[keknivek]

30-40 figures spread out over 10 movies and 2 cartoons (possibly Legends?) TPM, AOTC, ROTS, RO, ANH, ESB, ROTJ, TFA, HS, TLJ, CW, REB, LEGENDS EU?

I would wonder how many would be from HS or TLJ since they will clearly have some figures out in 2017 and early 2018. (I assume 5POA)

If we get 4 totally new figures the first year, I'll be surprised. They'll certainly want to get their mains out there, but not likely all the first year. If I list Main Characters (not including all different costumes) I get between 30 and 40 characters depending on who you include (Boba Fett? Tarkin? Chirrut? Death Trooper? Kannan? Ahsoka? Phasma?).

If you go with main characters in different iconic costumes, just Luke and Han can get you 20 different figures.

That's easily 60 figures not including whatever becomes a main character in HS or TLJ. That's 2 years worth and we haven't even looked at second tier characters like Galen Erso, General Hux, Wedge Antilles, Kit Fisto or troops like the Endor Rebels, Tantive Rebels, Hoth Rebels, Bespin Guards, Royal Guards, Senators, different flavors of Stormtroopers and Clones etc.

I know a lot of these have been done, but I'd expect even recent ones like the Vintage Carded Wedge Antilles to be possibly back on the table. That came out in 2012... and by 2018 we'll have 6 year olds that haven't seen a Wedge figure in their lifetime!! Think about that and you'll drive yourself crazy trying to figure out what will be coming in 2018...

 

[TK_842]

So repack speculation anyone? Because we already know it won't be "30-40" all new figs. We already know Rey...

If they were smart they'd buy back all the Finn and Poe's and repack them.

I believe most (all?) TFA figures are good candidates as well as the handful of RO incarnations. That's about a dozen right?

 

[Wookieman26]

30-40 figures spread out over 10 movies and 2 cartoons (possibly Legends?) TPM, AOTC, ROTS, RO, ANH, ESB, ROTJ, TFA, HS, TLJ, CW, REB, LEGENDS EU?

I would wonder how many would be from HS or TLJ since they will clearly have some figures out in 2017 and early 2018. (I assume 5POA)

If we get 4 totally new figures the first year, I'll be surprised. They'll certainly want to get their mains out there, but not likely all the first year. If I list Main Characters (not including all different costumes) I get between 30 and 40 characters depending on who you include (Boba Fett? Tarkin? Chirrut? Death Trooper? Kannan? Ahsoka? Phasma?).

If you go with main characters in different iconic costumes, just Luke and Han can get you 20 different figures.

That's easily 60 figures not including whatever becomes a main character in HS or TLJ. That's 2 years worth and we haven't even looked at second tier characters like Galen Erso, General Hux, Wedge Antilles, Kit Fisto or troops like the Endor Rebels, Tantive Rebels, Hoth Rebels, Bespin Guards, Royal Guards, Senators, different flavors of Stormtroopers and Clones etc.

I know a lot of these have been done, but I'd expect even recent ones like the Vintage Carded Wedge Antilles to be possibly back on the table. That came out in 2012... and by 2018 we'll have 6 year olds that haven't seen a Wedge figure in their lifetime!! Think about that and you'll drive yourself crazy trying to figure out what will be coming in 2018...

Listen I know there will be repacks and everything, but I think there will be more than 4 new figures the first year. Besides TFA, R1, and a few OT repacks, I think it will mostly be new figures. I don't see them really focusing on OT and I even think that TFA focus will die down quickly. Just think, if they're re-launching the line and they want it to sell very well, I don't see them doing a lot of repacks. I'm not even sure Finn and Poe will be repacked since they'll just clog the pegs. The only reason I think they're repacking Rey is because Rey always sells. I do think we'll see maybe Kylo and the FO Trooper repacked. And for Rogue One, since there's only 4 of those figures and they were all really hard to find, I see all 4 of those being repacked. And I also see the VC93 Vader being repacked on a Rogue One cardback. I don't think we'll get all the older TVC figures repacked, especially if they decide to start at VC116. Maybe a few characters that were in Rogue One they could just give alternate cardbacks (Vader and Stormtrooper for example). I also expect them not to give us a Walmart line for TLJ and just wait for TVC to return. Because that would make more sense instead of just having 2 exact figures on different cardbacks at the same time (that plan failed MISERABLY with the TPM3D line!). If they overdo the repacks the line will fail and be cancelled almost immediately. And if they're doing 30-40 figures per year, I expect the 5POA line to either get significantly smaller or just vanish completely. Because as soon as TVC is back, no one will be buying 5POA anymore and I even expect interest in the Black Series reducing.

 

[wedgeswingman]

30-40 a year? WOW. Even with the repacks and new movies that's a lot of potential. They better get this right.

 

[keknivek]

Listen I know there will be repacks and everything, but I think there will be more than 4 new figures the first year. Besides TFA, R1, and a few OT repacks, I think it will mostly be new figures. I don't see them really focusing on OT and I even think that TFA focus will die down quickly. Just think, if they're re-launching the line and they want it to sell very well, I don't see them doing a lot of repacks. I'm not even sure Finn and Poe will be repacked since they'll just clog the pegs. The only reason I think they're repacking Rey is because Rey always sells. I do think we'll see maybe Kylo and the FO Trooper repacked. And for Rogue One, since there's only 4 of those figures and they were all really hard to find, I see all 4 of those being repacked. And I also see the VC93 Vader being repacked on a Rogue One cardback. I don't think we'll get all the older TVC figures repacked, especially if they decide to start at VC116. Maybe a few characters that were in Rogue One they could just give alternate cardbacks (Vader and Stormtrooper for example). I also expect them not to give us a Walmart line for TLJ and just wait for TVC to return. Because that would make more sense instead of just having 2 exact figures on different cardbacks at the same time (that plan failed MISERABLY with the TPM3D line!). If they overdo the repacks the line will fail and be cancelled almost immediately. And if they're doing 30-40 figures per year, I expect the 5POA line to either get significantly smaller or just vanish completely. Because as soon as TVC is back, no one will be buying 5POA anymore and I even expect interest in the Black Series reducing.

No one will be buying 5POA anymore you say? So you think parents are going to pay $15.99 for a figure? You think the average joe is going to walk by and buy a Vader for that price because it is on a vintage card? Now, if they manage to figure out how to make these figures cheaper and get them out there for $9.99 or around there... I think that maybe the answer to those 2 questions is yes.

I may have undersold the 4 new figures the first year, but you underestimate how many figures there are that could be repacked. We aren't just talking about the Walmart Black Series... there are lots of other Black Series (Tie Pilot card) and previous Vintage and other figures that could very easily make their way to the Vintage Collection. I'd go all the way back to the 30th Anniversary Collection. There were a lot of good figures there that could be rerelease very easily.

 

[Maverick10126]

Yeah let's not kid ourselves here and pretend tvc series figs are such hot sellers that the 5poa line will be left in the dust. Let's try to remember how we got here in the first place....tvc didn't sell that well last time around. There were a lot of reasons, figure selection, distribution and price point. Price point isn't changing. Distribution will likely be what it was before. And figure selection? That's the real wild card. Will Rey on a vintage card sell? Will she hold up the line preventing other figures like the ERG or FO Stormtrooper from reaching the pegs? Will Hasbro choose not to re-release figures like dagobah landing Luke and instead re-release black series yoda? TVC alone aren't a slam dunk.

If they want to make a splash it should be highly sought after troops, last wave figs and whoever is going for bank on eBay. Maybe they will finally re-release jacen and jaina now that they are releasing jaina in the 6" line.

 

[Darth_Brett]

I don't think the 6" line was planned before Disney's acquisition. 6 months would actually be a reasonable time to make prototypes of 3 or 4 figures to launch the line off. And I don't think Hasbro had plans to phase out the 3.75" line, because after TPM3D and the end of TVC, Hasbro was bringing back the Legacy Collection. But right after Disney bought Lucasfilm, that plan was cancelled. Hasbro clearly did have plans to continue the 3.75" line in full force. And right after Disney bought Lucasfilm, that's when the long periods of empty shelves really kicked in. So I think Disney deserves every bit of blame it gets. No matter how much I might like the new movies, I will never forgive Disney for destroying the beloved toyline.

Not at all possible. The Disney acquisition didn't even happen until Oct '12 and the first announcement and packaged photos of the Black Series 6" figures was in Jan '13. There is no way all-new sculpts for an entirely new line with all-new packaging and new logistics and line was cooked up in 3 months by Hasbro. The 6" line was more than likely in the early planning/developmental stages by early '11 and was in all likelihood in the prototype and production stage by Fall 2011 - a full year before Disney even acquired the rights, let alone could influence any Hasbro decisions (which I still don't think they do in any way really other than keeping certain characters a secret before a movie release). I don't think the Disney logo even appeared on the Black Series cards until early-mid '14.

TPM being done in 3D first instead of ANH was a huuuuuge and dim-witted decision by Lucasfilm and Fox, plain and simple. When it was announced that it would be the first movie redone for 3D and released to theaters, I think most SW fans and casual fans alike knew it was a bone-headed mistake. We all saw that train coming from 100 miles away. It did make $43 million, but that was a disappointment compared to how much the Special Editions made 15 years earlier. TPM3D only sold 5 million tickets in 17 weeks of release (294,000 sold per week); while ANHSE sold 30 million in 14 weeks (2.1 million sold per week), ESBSE sold 14 million in 11 weeks (1.3 million sold per week) and ROTJSE sold 9 million in 12 weeks in theaters (750,000 sold per week). Basically it took TPM3D 17 weeks to sell just under 300,000 tickets; it only took ROTJSE (the weakest and least popular of the OT) 12 weeks to sell nearly triple that. In many ways, it was a disappointment. At the box-office and at retail.

 

[Darth_Brett]

Basically it took TPM3D 17 weeks to sell just under 300,000 tickets; it only took ROTJSE (the weakest and least popular of the OT) 12 weeks to sell nearly triple that. In many ways, it was a disappointment. At the box-office and at retail.

Meant to say it took TPM3D 17 weeks to accrue 5 million tickets while ROTJSE sold nearly double in only 12 weeks time. The tickets solder per week for Jedi was nearly triple was TPM did per week.

Apologize for all the boring stats, btw. But I love stats!

 

[Kalsh]

30-40 yearly figures in a SA line is roughly where things were with the non-exclusive Black Series - up to double if things wind up at the top end. Hasbro does seem to like waves to generally revolve around a movie. So if it's 40 figures, that could be six-figure waves for the four Disney era films, four-figure waves for each of the OT movies, and a four-figure wave covering the PT. Overall, this would be great as far as I'm concerned.

Looking still at the general distribution Black Series, Hasbro included at least one entirely new character in each wave after the first two waves (which were supposedly developed to coincide with the 3D release of AOTC). While a couple of these new characters were repaints or used mostly pre-existing molds (for example, R5-G19 and Toryn Farr), others were entirely new sculpts, like Mosep, Jabba's Skiff Guard, and Darth Plagueis.

Maybe this is just me stirring the pot a bit, but the Black Series' character selection was a massive improvement over the Vintage Collection's, where we were getting almost all rehashes of previously made figures. So hopefully, the people who are making the calls at Hasbro right now note my appreciation of action figures that are based on characters that have never before been immortalized in plastic and indulge my wishes.

 

[Wookieman26]

30-40 yearly figures in a SA line is roughly where things were with the non-exclusive Black Series - up to double if things wind up at the top end. Hasbro does seem to like waves to generally revolve around a movie. So if it's 40 figures, that could be six-figure waves for the four Disney era films, four-figure waves for each of the OT movies, and a four-figure wave covering the PT. Overall, this would be great as far as I'm concerned.

Looking still at the general distribution Black Series, Hasbro included at least one entirely new character in each wave after the first two waves (which were supposedly developed to coincide with the 3D release of AOTC). While a couple of these new characters were repaints or used mostly pre-existing molds (for example, R5-G19 and Toryn Farr), others were entirely new sculpts, like Mosep, Jabba's Skiff Guard, and Darth Plagueis.

Maybe this is just me stirring the pot a bit, but the Black Series' character selection was a massive improvement over the Vintage Collection's, where we were getting almost all rehashes of previously made figures. So hopefully, the people who are making the calls at Hasbro right now note my appreciation of action figures that are based on characters that have never before been immortalized in plastic and indulge my wishes.

With non-exclusive black series we only got about 20 figures per year.

 

[Trooper31]

The question for me is: How will they pack the cases? If they go with 12 individual figures with no doubles, they can get to 40 figures quickly. If the go with 4-6 different figures per case, then they'll need more waves.

I wonder if they took the numbers from the WM series and used that to help them plan TVC. What I mean is, they made fewer overall figures. It used to be that Hasbro needed to make a minimum amount of each individual figure to make the costs work out. Certain figures like Vader could easily be added to cases because it would sell through. Some TVC and other series figures came 1x in one case and that was it. Maybe Hasbro has developed a formula where they can make a lower number of each figure and cost it out. If that's the case, then they could easily make a number of new figures and have a number of repacks that are made in lower numbers which could help the sell through part of the equation.

 

[Darth_Brett]

30-40 figures for 2018 sounds like 6 waves to me...here's what I would love to see and I think would appeal to most

WAVE I
General Hux
Sim Aloo
Captain Rex
Rey (TLJ)
Death Star Gunner
AC-ACT Driver
Solomahal

WAVE II
Saelt Marae (Yak Face)
Ben Skywalker
Admiral Piett
First Order Flametrooper
New TLJ character
Resistance Trooper
Klaatu

WAVE III
Han Solo (TFA)
Chirrut
Tzvivvzt
Stormtrooper (new OT sculpt)
TLJ army builder
Taym Dren-garen

WAVE IV
Yotts Orren
Kylo Ren (TLJ)
Admiral Piett
Jedi Temple Guard
Maz
Saeasee Tiin
Dash Rendar

WAVE V
Sy Snootles (puppet)
Fan requested EU figure
ANH Leia
First Order Snowtrooper
Shasa Tiel
Bodhi Rook
TLJ villain

WAVE VI
Theron Nett
Guavian Enforcer
Jyn Erso (Sniper)
Cliegg Lars
Vedain
Arleil Schous


That would appeal to almost everyone and satisfy a lot of collector's needs for a solid 1st year back for the Vintage Collection. I am excited to see what 2018 brings us!

 

[Idpullthecurtain]

30-40 figures for 2018 sounds like 6 waves to me...here's what I would love to see and I think would appeal to most

WAVE I
General Hux
Sim Aloo
Captain Rex
Rey (TLJ)
Death Star Gunner
AC-ACT Driver
Solomahal

WAVE II
Saelt Marae (Yak Face)
Ben Skywalker
Admiral Piett
First Order Flametrooper
New TLJ character
Resistance Trooper
Klaatu

WAVE III
Han Solo (TFA)
Chirrut
Tzvivvzt
Stormtrooper (new OT sculpt)
TLJ army builder
Taym Dren-garen

WAVE IV
Yotts Orren
Kylo Ren (TLJ)
Admiral Piett
Jedi Temple Guard
Maz
Saeasee Tiin
Dash Rendar

WAVE V
Sy Snootles (puppet)
Fan requested EU figure
ANH Leia
First Order Snowtrooper
Shasa Tiel
Bodhi Rook
TLJ villain

WAVE VI
Theron Nett
Guavian Enforcer
Jyn Erso (Sniper)
Cliegg Lars
Vedain
Arleil Schous


That would appeal to almost everyone and satisfy a lot of collector's needs for a solid 1st year back for the Vintage Collection. I am excited to see what 2018 brings us!

Nice list Brett (but get Klaatu outta there, and you did Piett twice!). But I dont see it going like this.
IMO it will be around;
60% TLJ/Han Solo, 20% TFA, 10% OT, 5% R1, 5% Other

Thats what I expect and its just an educated guess. Its also not what I would choose. If it were up to me it would be 80% OT, 20% New Movies.

 

[Billy_Ray]

I had posted in the comments section saying I don't expect much figures in the line. This was a reply.

I'm sorry, but a reply in the comments section is hardly confirmation. If Paul Harrison had confirmation from Hasbro on the number of figures per year, believe me, it would be on JTA's main page.

Not trying to be a jerk, but people have taken your post and run with it like it's gospel, but we need to temper our expectations on this whole thing so as not to set ourselves up for disappointment.

 

[keknivek]

30-40 figures for 2018 sounds like 6 waves to me...here's what I would love to see and I think would appeal to most

WAVE I
General Hux
Sim Aloo
Captain Rex
Rey (TLJ)
Death Star Gunner
AC-ACT Driver
Solomahal

WAVE II
Saelt Marae (Yak Face)
Ben Skywalker
Admiral Piett
First Order Flametrooper
New TLJ character
Resistance Trooper
Klaatu

WAVE III
Han Solo (TFA)
Chirrut
Tzvivvzt
Stormtrooper (new OT sculpt)
TLJ army builder
Taym Dren-garen

WAVE IV
Yotts Orren
Kylo Ren (TLJ)
Admiral Piett
Jedi Temple Guard
Maz
Saeasee Tiin
Dash Rendar

WAVE V
Sy Snootles (puppet)
Fan requested EU figure
ANH Leia
First Order Snowtrooper
Shasa Tiel
Bodhi Rook
TLJ villain

WAVE VI
Theron Nett
Guavian Enforcer
Jyn Erso (Sniper)
Cliegg Lars
Vedain
Arleil Schous


That would appeal to almost everyone and satisfy a lot of collector's needs for a solid 1st year back for the Vintage Collection. I am excited to see what 2018 brings us!

I personally hope this ISN'T the list of figures Hasbro comes out with.... but only because I'd buy EVERY ONE OF THEM... and I cannot do that.

I think the number of new figures is way too high. Again, not what I want, but I think we'll get a lot more repacks. The first year will have most of the TFA and RO black series in it I think. That's likely 10-12 figures right there. They'll also get several of the main characters back out there from the movies. Vader is an automatic as is a Stormtrooper (likely not a new sculpt) and probably a few other figures that cross more than one movie. I'll imagine a list for you

Love your list though.

 

[Maverick10126]

30-40 figures for 2018 sounds like 6 waves to me...here's what I would love to see and I think would appeal to most

WAVE I
General Hux
Sim Aloo
Captain Rex
Rey (TLJ)
Death Star Gunner
AC-ACT Driver
Solomahal

WAVE II
Saelt Marae (Yak Face)
Ben Skywalker
Admiral Piett
First Order Flametrooper
New TLJ character
Resistance Trooper
Klaatu

WAVE III
Han Solo (TFA)
Chirrut
Tzvivvzt
Stormtrooper (new OT sculpt)
TLJ army builder
Taym Dren-garen

WAVE IV
Yotts Orren
Kylo Ren (TLJ)
Admiral Piett
Jedi Temple Guard
Maz
Saeasee Tiin
Dash Rendar

WAVE V
Sy Snootles (puppet)
Fan requested EU figure
ANH Leia
First Order Snowtrooper
Shasa Tiel
Bodhi Rook
TLJ villain

WAVE VI
Theron Nett
Guavian Enforcer
Jyn Erso (Sniper)
Cliegg Lars
Vedain
Arleil Schous


That would appeal to almost everyone and satisfy a lot of collector's needs for a solid 1st year back for the Vintage Collection. I am excited to see what 2018 brings us!

Looks like I'm in the minority here but I'd buy less than half of those. But I'm sure that's more of an indication to where I am in my collecting than anything else. I'd love to see an all new from the ground up ANH Luke. No more kitbashes from 10yo parts.

 

[War_in_The_floor]

That's a killer list
as in it would kill my wallet

But I agree with the above that's way to much new tooling in that list to be realistic

 

[Masterfett]

Decent list, as it offers something for everyone. However, I'd only buy six from it. And I don't know why Dash made it, we know that isn't going to happen.
These lists should be an actual viable endeavor, not some fantasy wish list. There's no point in getting too overzealous and hyped up. Bette to be reasonable and simple in the beginning, and when we see where they're heading. Then we can get a better feel for what to ask for, or expect.

Rex, again? I'm sorry but if I see that figure one more time, I'll scream! There are plenty of other Clone Commanders/Captains that could be released. Instead of the one that has been 20 times already... Oh, and Piett doesn't need two slots.

 

[Kalsh]

With non-exclusive black series we only got about 20 figures per year.

The Black Series (after the first two waves) had better figure selection than TVC. But it was a disappointingly low number of total figures each year.

 

[keknivek]

Here's another list... I've marked repacks in BOLD and made a few comments on others. The figures I chose as new could be any new figure (like Vedain and Taym could easily be Baniss Keeg and Solomohol instead)

Wave I
Rey (TFA) - they showed us this at Celebraion... no reason to think it won't come out first
Luke (TLJ) - could be (TFA), but I think they'll put it on a TLJ card
Capt Rex (CW) - the unreleased one we've all seen
Poe Dameron (TFA)
Darth Vader (ANH) - The Vintage Collection one --- possibly on a RO card?
Stormtrooper (ANH) - Also very likely on a RO card
Gen Grievous (ROTS) - Just think they'll try to get some of the more popular Prequel figs out too.
Wave II
Jyn Erso (RO) - Black Series Rerelease
Cassian Andor (RO) - ditto
FO Stormtrooper (TFA) - ditto
Kylo Ren (TLJ) - I Think they'll do an all new Kylo with scar and removable helmet
GNK Droid (ANH) - Repaint of one from the Droid 3 pack from a few years ago (Lars Homestead version so I'm considering this new)
Luke Skywalker (ANH) - Hopefully with at least some new tooling, but I'm calling this a repack
Yakface (ROTJ)
Wave III
Snowtooper Cmdr (ESB)- Couple army builders in this wave
Hoth Rebel Trooper (ESB)
Chewbacca (TFA) - I'd love it if they'd give us the bandage or an extra bandaged arm
FAN'S CHOICE FIGURE --- your guess is as good as mine
Rey (TLJ) - We will continue to get TLJ figures
Chirrut Imwe (RO) - man I hope so...
Wave IV
Scarif Trooper (RO)
Baze Malbus (RO) - Actually hoping that Baze and Chirrut are already in development and come as soon as possible
Capt Phasma (TFA) - not sure this one is needed, but they'll rerelease it anyway - vintage card should look cool - could be a TLJ card
Imp Navy Cmdr - The grey suit "Death Squad Commander" figure we want. Considering this new as well
Han Solo (HS Anth) - First figure from the Han Solo Anthology... assuming wave IV will be after this comes out
Jawas X2 (ANH) - Hoping they'll figure out how to get 2 Jawas in the blister... or will include another small droid - lots of ideas still out there.
Finn (TLJ)
Wave V
Death Trooper (RO)
Main Villain (TLJ) - not sure if this will be Snoke or Hux or someone else?
Main Villain (HS Anth) - Will have to wait and see
Vedain (ROTJ)
Taym Dren-Garen (ROTJ) - a couple skiff guards as they've been pretty keen to release skiff guards the last few years.
Admiral Piett (ESB) - New Head - considering this New
Princess Leia Boushh (ROTJ) - Black Series Repack
Wave VI
Boba Fett (ESB) - There's going to be a Boba somewhere
Jango Fett (AOTC)
Kannan Jarrus (REB) - End of the Series will probably get us more than just this one but I'm hoping for a commemorative pack or 2
Anakin Skywalker (ROTS)
Obi Wan Kenobi (ROTS)
Ahsoka Tano (REB)

It is literally impossible to determine how the line will go. I had to work Anakin and Obi Wan in somewhere... Only 1 Luke, 1 Han, and 1 Leia seems unlikely... and I know this is a little heavy on the Rogue One stuff... but man. I think this is realistic, but that means the only NEW NEW figures are Vedain, Taym and possibly the Fan's Choice figure. With the HS anthology and TLJ figures in there... it's packed.

 

[keknivek]

Just in case... everywhere you see a B) it's a letter B with a parenthesis - makes the whole list look stupid

 

[keknivek]

I realize also that I didn't take into account that we have a possibility of SA figures still as Black Series until 2018... So if they were to put out a TLJ Luke and Rey and maybe even get a couple more SA figures out there like Baze and Chirrut before 2018 comes around... perhaps there will be a few more slots for new characters.

I kinda hate my own list because I don't care about the cards. I would buy about 24 or 25 of the 40 that I put on the list... and that's with buying a second Death Trooper and Scarif Trooper and probably Rey and Jynn on the card because I do like the female characters.

 

[War_in_The_floor]

Pasted from a Hisstank post of mine on the same subject....

There are a ton of great repacks and simple kitbashes that could be all new sort of

Take the Nien Numb from that online only wave of TVC that had all the Awesome ROTJ figures, Prune face, ERG, the Ewok, ... that whole wave could be rereleased actually but Nine Numb could be put on a TFA card and Bam whole new thing! The TVC Ackbar could be repainted as TFA Ackbar or Raddus from R1, Hoth and Endor Rebel troopers ( and RRTF for that matter) which could just come straight back out could also be recolored and part swapped minimally for R1 troopers. The 5poa Kylo unmasked head on the TBS body from last year would make a KILLER Vinty carded Kylo... possibly with the extra masked head from the Armor up thrown in for added value. Take Ello Asty's head from the 5 POA, Snap Wesly's head from 5 POA and put them both on Poe TBS body with some different paint aps if at all even and bam there are those two with no tooling. That awesome Scarrif trooper could have at least three paint variants from the same tooling. Krennic, Hux and those cool looking generic First order flight controller types from the Tie Stealing scene could be made from existing Imperial Officer parts and the corresponding 5 POA heads, Bodhi can be made from the Imperial Scanning tech body with the 5 poa figure head and vest... on and on and on. this lien could be great if Hasbro would slow down and THINK about how to get the most bang for the buck.

 

[DarthSharky]

The 5 poa Snap and Asty have molded on helmets with banana visors. Definitely need new heads with removable helmets for those 2.

 

[Darth_Brett]

Nice list Brett (but get Klaatu outta there, and you did Piett twice!). But I dont see it going like this.
IMO it will be around;
60% TLJ/Han Solo, 20% TFA, 10% OT, 5% R1, 5% Other

Thats what I expect and its just an educated guess. Its also not what I would choose. If it were up to me it would be 80% OT, 20% New Movies.

Wha? No love for Klaatu??? I want him redone by Hasbro so badly! LOL Okay, replace the duplicate Piett with either Ewok Dress Leia or Supreme Leader Snoke.

As for my list, I am not saying that is what I personally want, but it's a list that would appeal to everyone and offers something for everybody. I realize it also is a pipe dream since it's almost all new sculpts. But it was just to give an example of how waves should be balanced out so all our happy. Which is what I think the line should always try to do. I don't really collect EU or PT stuff at all, but I think the EU and PT fans deserve a few figures every year. I always hear Ben Skywalker and Captain Rex and Dash Randar's names come up so I just threw them in the mix. If it were up to me, I'd make every wave 80% OT and it would consist of any POTF2/POTJ figs still needing updates and any major unmade cantina aliens/skiff guards/palace denizens/rebel pilots/ewoks/droids!

 

[Masterfett]

I really feel that Hasbro should get back into kitbashes. I can't imagine they're that expensive compared to making an all new SA figure. A new figure requires an added cost of all new tooling, kitbahes don't.

Just look as Bossk, 80% reusable for a Boshek update. But we still haven't got him. Just need new forearms, lower legs and a head w/helmet.
Not to mention several others.

 

[Kalsh]

Brett, are you talking about Klaatu - Wooof, or Klaatu - Skiff Guard. I can understand the desire for a SA version of the latter. But I'd rather have a different, entirely new figure from the Klaatu species.

But enough of that. I posted what follows a couple years ago in a different thread. If people are going to start projecting waves and such, maybe we should try to emulate how Hasbro actually does things.

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I put together the numbers on TBS as far as how new the figures' parts are. Maybe this is interesting to you. Of the 33 figures released thus far:

13 are completely new
8 are retooled (have both old and new pieces)
7 are repaints
2 are kit bashes
3 are repacks.

Making some wild guesses about the upcoming two waves, the breakdown looks like 18/13/9/2/4. So generally, my guess is that if there is a new TBS wave, it will have 2-3 new figures, 1-2 retools, a repaint, and a repack.

Going by a different breakdown, the figures have been:

10 Core
4 Clone
7 Army Builder (this includes rebel pilots)
1 Droid
4 Unique Alien (unique in that you wouldn't want a whole mess of them; Pablo Jill fits here; the Jawas are army builders)
7 Unique Obscure Human

If the next two waves are added, it's 16/8/9/1/5/7. (And yes, many people would lump the clones with the army builders - please be my guest if you so desire.) This would put two core characters, two army builders/clones, an obscure human and an alien in your average wave.

 

[Trooper31]

I really feel that Hasbro should get back into kitbashes. I can't imagine they're that expensive compared to making an all new SA figure. A new figure requires an added cost of all new tooling, kitbahes don't.

Just look as Bossk, 80% reusable for a Boshek update. But we still haven't got him. Just need new forearms, lower legs and a head w/helmet.
Not to mention several others.

This would probably cut some costs. I would think they sculpted a new trooper (rebel resistance) it would be cheaper to have the sculptor make 2-3 different heads at the same time, so they could make some easy repacks with different heads.