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I'm starting this thread as a DIRECT protest of the laziest release Hasbro has put out to date:

Dagobah Luke dyed black...

But I'll focus on the positive. I am waaaaay down that Heir to the Empire is being addressed is toy form again. Maybe this opens the flood gates to some of these:
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I'd buy every single one of these. And like 10 of the Spacetrooper.

Also, why has there never been a Noghri figure in any scale?
 
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Given how awful this Luke is and how they couldn't even get Kir Kanos' name right, seems unlikely that's an accurate read on things.

Hasbro's (mostly) lazy initial offerings could doom their line of EU figures, but it would be their own fault. It wouldn't be due to a lack of interest for EU figures by Black Series collectors.

It's hard to prove if the post-ROTJ EU or the ST is more popular with the majority of Black Series collectors, but I suspect it is. At least Hasbro must think EU figures will sell, as they are producing them, but they no longer have much confidence in ST figures, as they barely produce any these days.
 
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I'll buy anything from that trilogy if its done well. Specifically I'm referencing the comic 'interpretation' of the noghri. I think Rebels did a much better job with how they're described.
 
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Mara Jade and Joruus C'Baoth would absolutely fly off the shelves, and I have to believe that Talon Karrde and Capt. Pellaeon would sell well too.

So naturally we'll get lightly distinguishable versions of Lando, Han, Leia, Ackbar, and Wedge well before any of them.
 
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Hasbro's (mostly) lazy initial offerings could doom their line of EU figures, but it would be their own fault. It wouldn't be due to a lack of interest for EU figures by Black Series collectors.

It's hard to prove if the post-ROTJ EU or the ST is more popular with the majority of Black Series collectors, but I suspect it is. At least Hasbro must think EU figures will sell, as they are producing them, but they no longer have much confidence in ST figures, as they barely produce any these days.

My point isn't that there is an appetite for it, it's that I don't think Habro has indicated making EU figures is actually something they're committed to doing long-term. I think we'll see more ST figures before we see a really great line of EU figures (for the record I want both; but the fact that their best attempt at an EU Luke is just a crappy recolor doesn't fill me with confidence that we'll be seeing a real Mara Jade any time soon)
 
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I say fill yourself with confidence!

Toys R Us is coming back. I bet you they won’t be making the same mistake they made with loading up on ST trash. It’s when times are tough that businesses are forced to innovate. With such horrible sales of the ST figures, I think Hasbro may realize they have to work for our dollars. Face printing comes to mind.

My prediction:
A new era like the early to mid 2000s filled with high quality aliens, troopers, and robots! Build-a-Figures!
Deluxe figures!
Vehicles!
And more!

(“More” meaning less ST stuff)
 
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This was a special set of 4 to recognize the comics for 50th Anniversary. I doubt it will open the door for much more from non-cannon material.
 
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Hasbro's (mostly) lazy initial offerings could doom their line of EU figures, but it would be their own fault. It wouldn't be due to a lack of interest for EU figures by Black Series collectors.

It's hard to prove if the post-ROTJ EU or the ST is more popular with the majority of Black Series collectors, but I suspect it is. At least Hasbro must think EU figures will sell, as they are producing them, but they no longer have much confidence in ST figures, as they barely produce any these days.
l’ll take both ST and EU/Legends if they are well executed and cool designs.
 
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Hasbro's (mostly) lazy initial offerings could doom their line of EU figures

I would not worry too much about it. Even the awful christmas figures sold well apperantly. And if they flew off the shelves, I'm sure a bunny and copied-homework-luke will also do well.
 
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I would not worry too much about it. Even the awful christmas figures sold well apperantly. And if they flew off the shelves, I'm sure a bunny and copied-homework-luke will also do well.

First, "copied-homework-Luke" - love it and stealing it! :LOL:

As for what you are saying, maybe. However, I just checked Pulse, and while the new Maul has been sold out since shortly after being listed yesterday, all of the other new figures are still available for pre-order. It seems I'm far from the only one who ordered Maul and passed on the others.

As for the Christmas figures, as awful as they may be, they're a novelty. Hasbro isn't pretending they fit in with the rest of the line (like the rabbit), and there aren't any accuracy issues with them (like Kir/Carnor and Lazy Luke). I suspect more collectors are less interested in grossly inaccurate depictions of real characters than holiday themed novelties not based on anything.
 
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Sign me up. How about we start with a Luke that has a proper lower torso?

Jokes aside, Heir Luke is... workable as-is. It's not perfect, and I'll grumble about it, but being that the source material is a book, some leeway can be given to the specifics of designs.

As for what I'd like from the Thrawn trilogy, give me a Mara, Ruhk, C'Boath, and most importantly - a Thrawn that looks more like how he was portrayed in EU art. Tassles, deep blue skin, hair that isn't slicked back, and a Ysalarmi. Seems like an incredibly easy figure to make, and would absolutely sell given how much canon Thrawn already has.
 
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Totally agree on the original EU version of Thrawn. I also love a Mara Jade and C'Baoth. I am big fan of anything Mara Jade related as she is such a cool character. It's funny that some figures from the EU like Mara get a fair amount of love and others like C'Baoth get none.

Aside from the above the EU figures that I would most like to see are:

Ssi-Ruuk: IMO, aside from the Yuuzhan Vong and Chiss they are the coolest aliens in the SW universe;

Anakin Solo: He was one of my favourite EU characters and I find it baffling that outside of one really crappy game piece we have never seen an Ankain figure. We got a Jacen Solo and a couple versions of Jaina, perhaps they are concerned of confusion between Anakin Solo and Anakin Skywalker?

Noghri: How cool would it be if they did a deluxe package with an EU version of Thrawn along with Ruhk?

Yuuzhan Vong: The most badass aliens in the SW universe;

Sith Emperor (Darth Vitiate): Also a really cool character but likely not well known enough for them to produce.
 
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I really wish they'd finally release the canceled Noghri figure in 3.75" scale, they could even release it as Ruhk! Though I suspect that by now that mold has been lost or forgotten about. .

Anakin Solo was a tragic case of of GL wanting to make the prequels and didn't want confusion so that character was offed, thus resulting in likely never seeing an action figure of him either.
 
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Hasbro's (mostly) lazy initial offerings could doom their line of EU figures, but it would be their own fault. It wouldn't be due to a lack of interest for EU figures by Black Series collectors.

It's hard to prove if the post-ROTJ EU or the ST is more popular with the majority of Black Series collectors, but I suspect it is. At least Hasbro must think EU figures will sell, as they are producing them, but they no longer have much confidence in ST figures, as they barely produce any these days.


it wouldn't be the first time a producer has shot themselves in the foot concerning a 'sub line' that would catch like wildfire.

being a wwe collector aswell, Mattel's first foray into the 'Legends' subline BOMBED hard asf becuase collectors were clamoring for 90's characters and mattel was like "We'll give you mid card characters from the 80's in obscure attire choices" and of course the line tanked. mattel was thinking along the lines of 'lets try and fill all the gaps our competitors missed, but collectors were like 'no, give us all the iconic looks in your glorious format' and it took many years for mattel to slowly re-introduce classic characters to the lineup again-----all because they fumbled the line from the get-go
 
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Funny that old post-ROTJ EU stuff is coming back and the 'canon' sequel stuff is going away.

There's always been an interest in figures from Legends. Making figures isn't (and shouldn't) rely on what is canon or not, as evidenced by the robust Marvel Legends line which has both comic and TV/movie versions of characters.. Hasbro just isn't committed to doing the same with Star Wars and I doubt that have changed despite these comic-based figures being announced. I suspect after this initial salvo, they'll go back to releasing clones or that character variation we were looking for years ago. I hope not, but it is Hasbro.
 
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I'll buy anything from that trilogy if its done well. Specifically I'm referencing the comic 'interpretation' of the noghri. I think Rebels did a much better job with how they're described.

I'm hoping that with the 30th anniversary of Dark Force Rising next year that we will finally get a Noghri figure. I am also hoping for a Jorus C'boath.
 
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I'm hoping that with the 30th anniversary of Dark Force Rising next year that we will finally get a Noghri figure. I am also hoping for a Jorus C'boath.
Ooph, yeah I'd be all over a Noghri figure. I just hope they do it slight of stature like on Rebels as opposed to the 'artists interpretation' from the Heir to the Empire comics.
 
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Ooph, yeah I'd be all over a Noghri figure. I just hope they do it slight of stature like on Rebels as opposed to the 'artists interpretation' from the Heir to the Empire comics.
Wholeheartedly agree. Dave knows what he’s doing when it comes to reintroducing old characters into the new media.
 
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I’d be all over a Noghri too. I don’t remember which book it was but one of my favorite scenes in the whole trilogy was the Noghris versus the Wookiees on Kashyyyk.
 
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It was Heir that pitted the Wookiees against Noghri. I’ve got the audiobook of HTTE on digital loan from my library, and was just listening to that section this morning. Great stuff. It’s been a while since my last run through the trilogy.

As a PT brat, I’d missed the initial release of the books. But they were a BIG DEAL when I finally caught up. And they remain so.

So definitely, count me in for a Noghri as well. And Mara, C’baoth, Pellaeon, and Talon Karrde. And Mazzic, Shada D’ukal, a wraith… Any number of others.

Though, now that I’ve re-read the notes on the Wookieepedia entry for Karrde, stating that Zahn had envisioned Paul Darrow as a model for the character, I’m wondering what he actually looks like in my mind’s eye.

I think John Hoyt has been my own idea of a model.

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It was Heir that pitted the Wookiees against Noghri. I’ve got the audiobook of HTTE on digital loan from my library, and was just listening to that section this morning. Great stuff. It’s been a while since my last run through the trilogy.

As a PT brat, I’d missed the initial release of the books. But they were a BIG DEAL when I finally caught up. And they remain so.

So definitely, count me in for a Noghri as well. And Mara, C’baoth, Pellaeon, and Talon Karrde. And Mazzic, Shada D’ukal, a wraith… Any number of others.

Though, now that I’ve re-read the notes on the Wookieepedia entry for Karrde, stating that Zahn had envisioned Paul Darrow as a model for the character, I’m wondering what he actually looks like in my mind’s eye.

I think John Hoyt has been my own idea of a model.

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Man, paint him blue and Dr Boyce there is Thrawn. :)
 
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I really need to check out the audiobooks of the Thrawn trilogy. My paperbacks long ago vanished. I do still have all 3 graphic novels but Heir was the only one that I really loved the stylized artwork.
 
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It's such a shame that Lucasfilm et al. never got their crap together and made a sequel trilogy based on the Thrawn trilogy in the mid 1990's. Those were the movies that the fans deserved IMO.
 
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It's such a shame that Lucasfilm et al. never got their crap together and made a sequel trilogy based on the Thrawn trilogy in the mid 1990's. Those were the movies that the fans deserved IMO.
Agreed except he should have done it after the PT. Lucas did discuss the idea of a ST but the reception he got from PT turned him off an already difficult future project. Post 2005 the last thing he wanted was to give fans what they wanted. He was pretty bitter at that point.
 
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The other problem Lucas would have likely faced is the same one that Disney did: he would want to tell his own version of the story and not just directly adapt the one from the books that he had very little to do with. I think he would have kept more elements, but the movies would have been quite different from the actual Heir/Thrawn trilogy. Which, as we all know, leaves fans feeling frustrated and disrespected. I can see why it was a lose/lose situation for him.

I haven't read HTTE this century, after reading it three or four times in the 90s. So my most wanted figures are real basic: Mara Jade and Talon Karrde. I'd be up for more, of course (especially Rukh, but as much for Rebels as here)...but those are the two I'd hope for even if they don't really focus more on this series.
 
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Very true. ^ People tend to forget that GL had no more love of the EU than Disney does. lol And he would most certainly have done his own thing, thus angering all those who had preconceived ideas in their head. The PT angered Fans for a whole different reason than just making his own story, for whatever reasons stemming form too much CG to dull/wooden characters to basically ruining what the OT set up or whatever.

Clearly it had been too long since he had made the OT for him to still have the same mindset for that world, not to mention the countless rewrite that happened to it in the early days to begin with. He may very well have had a long rough draft for nine or twelve movies we'll never truly know for sure, but the fact remains he altered those early ideas many time while writing it then again while actually writing the two sequels. I feel that Star Wars was shot in a way so that it could be a stand alone in case that it was flop and no others were made, which TBH is how all movies should be done rather than having an opening for something that never happens or is a decade or two later.

It's strange, we get book adaptations all the time for popular stories/IP's, yet no one seems to wants to tackle any of the good stories from the Star Wars books. Instead they prefer to purge it all, then when those movies ideas don't go their way they decide bring in certain EU characters to adapt.
But again for their specific story telling preference which may not be the character we remember or would prefer. I don't fault them for wanting to introduce new characters and stories I'm all for it as long as it makes sense and is enjoyable.

I know we'll likely see Thrawn in Ahsoka, at least that's how it feels based on her presence in Mandalorian. The thing is that essentially is a show about her, and likely not going to center on Thrawn's grand achievements during the war with the New Republic. So I'd definitely be for a movie or trilogy with him as the quasi lead character showcasing his victories over the New Republic, even though we basically got that in Rebels it doesn't quite feel the same to me and I could use less Ezra antics when seeing it all lay out. It could be a literal chess match between him and Madine, another character that could sue some fleshing out from just standing there in ROTJ. Because in the books he was fairly well written tactician and operative as well. I guess they could also bring in Moff Gideon as a boots on the ground character though I see him more as a specialist in charge of a special program and would prefer someone else.
 
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Its too bad that Rangers of the New Republic was cancelled as there nay have been some room there to explore Thrawn's early campaigns.

Better yet I think that they should make a live action Rogue Squadron show that focuses on the mopping up of the remnants of the Empire and the consolidation of the New Republic. As Masterfett pointed out, it would be a good opportunity to flesh out characters like Madine and Ackbar.
 
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