Haslab Death Star wants

What would be your preference(s) for a Haslab Death Star? (You may select more than one option)

  • All-in-one

  • Modular

  • Non-spherical

  • Spherical

  • Under $500

  • $500 to $800

  • As much as it costs to make it right!

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The community is pretty divided on the subject of a possible Haslab Death Star so I thought I'd create a poll just to try to get an idea of a general concensus, at least around here.

I think it's also important that we have realistic expectations, keeping in mind the actual scale that some of the Death Star locations are and how much space would actually be required to do them justice. No matter what, we may have to make compromises if this is something we'd like to see.

And if you're expecting a full Death Star playset with all the locations seen in the movie for $500, well, this poll probably isn't for you because that's simply unrealistic, as cool as it would be.

Anyway I appreciate anyone who takes the time to do the poll. You can select whichever options apply to your personal preferences, just try to make sure they don't contradict (i.e. spherical AND non-spherical - just pick one or the other, and if you don't have a preference leave that one blank). You'll be able to view the results of the poll after you put in your vote. You will also be able to change your vote at a later time, as I realize our preferences do sometimes change. I also chose to not have the poll close automatically after a certain period of time so anyone who wants to participate has plenty of time.

Thanks everyone!
 
I’m going to watch this, but I am not going to vote since I have no interest in purchasing another HasLab, no matter what they make. Simply no room for it.
 
Currently I do not believe a all in 1 DS would fund or at least not the full support that Hasbro would prefer.

I would like it modular & each piece would be available to order on pulse every 6 months or every year which ever is more practical. This would also be the best option for those who might want to customize theirs. For example added more cells to the detention area. (Seriously make this section expandable!!!!’)
 
I think modular and stackable is the way to go.

They should also be regular intervals for dimensions, such as a straight hallway being one unit tall and one unit wide. A conference room is one until tall and two units wide. A chasm area is two units tall and two units wide. A hangar is 3 units tall and 3 units wide…

Something like that, at least. That way you can assemble whatever set up you want, and you can customize how large you want, whether it be a shelf or an entire wall.

I would definitely be in for an entire wall…
 
The focus group sketch worked for me. All at once like Super7's giant ThunderCats lair or Mattel's Eternia. Take it or leave it.

I don't see Hasbro spending years putting out pieces of the Death Star and shunning whatever new stuff comes down the pipe to keep that momentum going.
 
Darth_V4der said:
☑️ Modular
☑️ Under $500

Hopelessly unrealistic 😂
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Modular seems to be the more popular option so far, though people can't seem to agree on a price point. I think under $500 is realistic if we're talking about per each section, but yeah if we're talking the whole thing I don't know if they could make that work.
 
I don't *WANT* a modular one because I don't have faith that they'll finish it or make the individual pieces worthwhile on their own, but if that's what they put out, I'd buy it.

I'll echo what @bac said - I liked Jayson's sketch. That would be perfectly adequate for me. Having the whole thing at once also doesn't mean I need to rearrange my entire display every 14 months or however long it is in between releases.
 
I voted all-in-one, spherical, as much as it costs...

If offered, this would be the last Star Wars item I ever buy, so go all out and make it a 3ft diameter sphere with a 3 ft tall clear rod that inserts into a base similar to an umbrella stand (no table or shelf needed). Pop off panels to see the entire inside housing the various "rooms". I know this would never be made, but that's my dream item and would spend whatever necessary to get it.
 
Honestly, if it's going to be modular anyway then don't even call it the "Death Star". Or even go the HasLab route, because if all we're talking about are a few key scenes such as the throne room, compactor, Hangar Door(Ben vs. Vader), Detention block and possibly the conference room they might as well just release the throne room and conference room as Pulse Exclusives, Detention Block and Compactor as Fan Channel with the Vader Obi-Wan duel at retail. That would be better for the consumer as well as it would be individual purchases spread out throughout the year instead of al at once, if Hasbro could plan it that way. Maybe even over the course of two years, one big set and two smaller ones in 26 with a follow up in 27 of another big set and two more smaller ones. Keep the HasLab format for big ships.

Another hitch would be the tiers which nobody would likely agree on either, but how do they address tiers on a Death Star when most of them are main line figures? Even if they chose to put Luke and Han with stormy belt it would upset those not interested in a big $900 set, whereas if they came with a smaller set around $200 as a fan channel it opens up to more people.

For instance, the trash Compactor could include dirty versions of those two in Stormy disguise. Detention block could come with SG's Leia, and the Imperial Officer. Conference room could come with Ramodi, Yularen, Bast etc. as it shares the same tooling for all of them. Normally I'd say put the sets with mains at retail but there aren't that many small sections that would suit store shelves as side from the Vader/Ben duel, or swing to freedom, but I also feel most of these wouldn't appeal to the average person anyway.
 
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For tiers, i would say limit the figures to maybe 2 and otherwise find ways to build out the rooms with more details that can be added in (terminals, extra panels to turn wall into a window). Just bonuses to enhance the base offering as opposed to figures that people are really going to be bitter over.
 
jwh1974 said:
I voted all-in-one, spherical, as much as it costs...

If offered, this would be the last Star Wars item I ever buy, so go all out and make it a 3ft diameter sphere with a 3 ft tall clear rod that inserts into a base similar to an umbrella stand (no table or shelf needed). Pop off panels to see the entire inside housing the various "rooms". I know this would never be made, but that's my dream item and would spend whatever necessary to get it.
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That describes my DS almost exactly, except rather than a clear rod as a stand (great idea, by the way), I ended up going with a Lazy Susan. I even planned on doing the removable panels initially, but at that time my 3d printer was on the fritz and I couldn't find a detailed enough 3d model to use as a base.
 
I don’t know of an ideal way to do a Death Star Haslab and have it be reasonably priced.

I wouldn’t pay more than $600 for one, but I’m understanding and realize I would get a pretty “meh” Death Star Haslab at that price.

I’d like a modular set, but I don’t need it as Haslab. If they wanted to do some of the iconic scenes like the Emperor’s Throne Room or the Hangar as Pulse exclusive playsets, then I’m okay with that. I’d rather get a detailed Emperor’s Throne Room vs a shrunken or lukewarm Throne Room crammed into a set.
 
Even though I don’t want one, I’m in the camp that thinks modular would be the best option.

There are a couple scenes though that I just don’t think are good enough to warrant their own set.

Obi-Wan / Vader duel
Swing to freedom

I think the biggest issue with the old POTF2 DS sets were how small they were. The swing is just that, a swing, and the duel between Obi-Wan and Vader is more about the two of them than the background (which is pretty much just the blast door). For these two scenes, what could Hasbro make now that would really be that much better than the POTF2 versions (except for the figures of course)?

The only way I see those two scenes being a part of a TVC DS project and having any real value is if they were part of something larger.
 
I'd like to see how the Return to Tatooine theme works out next yearto see where Hasbro might be going with these themes. Having the Cantina HasLab as the main piece for the year, with more figures in the basic line, and there have been hints of a few other Tatooine things, might give us an idea of Hasbro might approch each year's worth of toy from now on, assuming RtT works out.

The problem the DS has now, after the Cantina HasLab, is the space issue for a lot of collectors (many complained they didn't have space for the Cantina) as well as the price (some that didn't want it said the offering just didn't have the value), and the whole playset vs. ship discussion (many have said ships sell better than playsets). The number stated last year was $800-1,000. I'm not sure how many collectors will commit that much money for a HasLab. There was talk of some wanting smaller HasLabs at the RC type price.
 
The DS I would want would not reasonably fit in my rooms and I couldn't afford it anyway.
The DS I could house and afford is not worth the expense.
So... I'd still go with a new Y-Wing and U-Wing instead.

Modular wouldn't help either, because it would still cost the sum of all of these modules, and we'd see DS modules on the "shelves" for years, if Hasbro even commits to a multi-year multi-product project.
 
I'd prefer modular sets, but the problem is the committment Hasbro would have to make over a long period of time. I'd think they could realistically do 2 sets per year, maybe 3, but the problem lies in the fact that if one set bombs, it would basically kill anything that came after it. Hasbro could make a couple of sets first that could be attached to a DS HasLab, like the Throne Room, but they'd basically have to say, "Look, we're going to try a couple of sets that would hook up to a possible HasLab Death Star, but they have to sell well enough for us to move to a Haslab." They really can't do that.
 
Modular but with a plan towards a Spherical design when combined.

So yes recognizable section of varying sizes (depending on the section/scene) that can be displayed individually.
But not just designed willy-nilly (word?) or randomly without plan.
All engineered with a well thought out forward thinking, logical end plan/layout, towards how they will combine to make a ultimatley large spherical display. (if one desires)

And by "spherical" I mean more a cutaway of a sphere, that when modules are combined, end to end, and stacked, all builds towards a large stand alone, (or wall hanging) sphircal design.

Also to achieve this behemoth, I'm fine with "cheating" scale for toyetic license.

The "foundation" end-to-end (and no wider than) base-scale, that everything builds off, should be a hanger/docking-bay that can properly hold the Big Falcon. (allowing for some overhang)
 
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Mike_M said:
Even though I don’t want one, I’m in the camp that thinks modular would be the best option.

There are a couple scenes though that I just don’t think are good enough to warrant their own set.

Obi-Wan / Vader duel
Swing to freedom

I think the biggest issue with the old POTF2 DS sets were how small they were. The swing is just that, a swing, and the duel between Obi-Wan and Vader is more about the two of them than the background (which is pretty much just the blast door). For these two scenes, what could Hasbro make now that would really be that much better than the POTF2 versions (except for the figures of course)?

The only way I see those two scenes being a part of a TVC DS project and having any real value is if they were part of something larger.
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Did Hasbro ever produce a decent blast door set piece for the duel? I think that would make a good set akin to Jabba's trophy room / CFC / Tantive IV. An opening and closing blast door with two short walls behind it would suffice and would make a nice display piece.

Booster Terrik said:
The only things I want are a Sim Aloo figure and the Mouse Droid on VC67A cardback.
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Sim Aloo would be one of the few characters that would be an appropriate pack-in or stretch goal. However I'm sure that would piss a lot of people off.

Darthmalgus said:
As much as it cost to make right? That would literally be millions of dollars and it would not fit in any building.
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Okay, maybe I should have added 'within reason' lol. I hear the $800-1000 price point a lot, but I've also heard as much as $2000. It's all theoretical of course, and I doubt there would be a lot of takers at that price. We have to remember these are still toys, so of course compromises will have to be made.

DonWanKihotay said:
Modular but with a plan towards a Spherical design when combined.

So yes recognizable section of varying sizes (depending on the section/scene) that can be displayed individually.
But not just designed willy-nilly (word?) or randomly without plan.
All engineered with a well thought out forward thinking, logical end plan/layout, towards how they will combine to make a ultimatley large spherical display. (if one desires)

And by "spherical" I mean more a cutaway of a sphere, that when modules are combined, end to end, and stacked, all builds towards a large stand alone, (or wall hanging) sphircal design.

Also to achieve this behemoth, I'm fine with "cheating" scale for toyetic purposes.

The "foundation" base scale everything should build off, should be the hanger that can properly (allowing for some overhang) hold/park the Big Falcon.
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Wow, that would really be something! The hangar bay is one that I think a lot of people rule out due to the scale. I'd love to see one if there was a way they could make it work,

Trooper31 said:
I'd prefer modular sets, but the problem is the committment Hasbro would have to make over a long period of time. I'd think they could realistically do 2 sets per year, maybe 3, but the problem lies in the fact that if one set bombs, it would basically kill anything that came after it. Hasbro could make a couple of sets first that could be attached to a DS HasLab, like the Throne Room, but they'd basically have to say, "Look, we're going to try a couple of sets that would hook up to a possible HasLab Death Star, but they have to sell well enough for us to move to a Haslab." They really can't do that.
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Yeah, Hasbro's commitment to completing it would be the biggest obstacle in going the modular route. I would understand their reluctance if one particular piece didn't sell. This would probably be the biggest reason I'd lean toward the one and done route, but I'd be happy either way.
 
CaptainYoda said:
Is everybody assuming Modular means sold separately?
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Everyone? Don't know?
Towards my imagined concept, size and complexity I certainly was.
Though I imagine to achieve it there would be several repeating "fill-out" elements: walls corridors, doors, exterior façade attachments, used to connect individual Moduals, that would be one standard pack, that could be bought multiples of, depending on how much you want to connect and build out your DS.
Yet each individual (venue) module, could be displayed stand alone.
 
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CaptainYoda said:
Is everybody assuming Modular means sold separately?
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That's a good question. Because technically the cantina could even be considered 'modular', couldn't it? I think most people are thinking of pieces that are sold separately or components that could be assembled to make a complete unit, or whatever configuration people want. A lot of people are also interested in it being released as separate areas but don't really care if they connect or not. So maybe we could assume just for simplicity that modular could include all of the above? Anyone have any thoughts on that?
 
I feel the big difference between Cantina and a DS is that at least with the Cantina it forms a complete building, thus recreating what is seen on screen. That cannot be done the same way for a DS due to the size discrepancy with each room/section. Which is why it's my hope that it comes in the form of that sketch floating around, that offers best of both worlds for those who want to disassemble it and place it all around the house as well as appealing to those of us who want it contained to one area. Whatever route they take I feel the sections should be interlocking for those who want a connected environment.

I do see the appeal of being separate releases for the reasons I mentioned earlier, the only issue here would be if something happened between the first and third set causing the rest not to be made. I slow sales impact one or the other, Hasbro would most likely take the wrong message and cancel future sets not realizing each one is different with different fan interests. Not everyone wants every section, but would default buy it if it were included as part of a bigger set.
 
DonWanKihotay said:
And by "spherical" I mean more a cutaway of a sphere, that when modules are combined, end to end, and stacked, all builds towards a large stand alone, (or wall hanging) sphircal design.
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The problem with this approach is that it's basically buying puzzle pieces separately. There's always the chance that for one reason or another, someone misses the first or second piece, then they're out from buying the rest. The could stack up diminishing returns/purchases and/or drive up the cost on the remaining sets to be released.

Trooper31 said:
I'd prefer modular sets, but the problem is the committment Hasbro would have to make over a long period of time. I'd think they could realistically do 2 sets per year, maybe 3, but the problem lies in the fact that if one set bombs, it would basically kill anything that came after it. Hasbro could make a couple of sets first that could be attached to a DS HasLab, like the Throne Room, but they'd basically have to say, "Look, we're going to try a couple of sets that would hook up to a possible HasLab Death Star, but they have to sell well enough for us to move to a Haslab." They really can't do that.
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They would essentially have to show off what is coming next to guarantee for people that there IS something coming. Neca had their sewer playset at conventions for about 2 years before they announced it was going to be sold in pieces. By that point, there were so many pictures of it being displayed that there weren't any questions about the offering. Hasbro (moreover LFL) would need to be a LOT more upfront than they prefer to be.
 
My take on "Modular" just means it can be arranged in a number of different ways. And not necessarily sold separately.

Let's say there is a Trash Compactor and Detention Block area. To me, they would be modular if you could stack the one on top of the other, or you could place them side by side. That way, if your shelfs were not tall enough, the two rooms could be detached and placed next to each other.

I haven't voted in the poll above yet because, I really haven't landed on what I think is the best approach. I just wanted to hear more ideas.
 
Darth_Sceptaurus said:
Did Hasbro ever produce a decent blast door set piece for the duel? I think that would make a good set akin to Jabba's trophy room / CFC / Tantive IV. An opening and closing blast door with two short walls behind it would suffice and would make a nice display piece.
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Not really. The POTF2 release was two halves of the open door with a sword fight mechanism and a cardboard background of the Falcon. The figures weren’t too great either.

I think that by itself, it’s not really something with wide enough appeal to be successful. It’s one scene. Yes, it’s iconic, but it’s still just one scene.

That’s why I think it needs to be part of a set that combines the smaller scenes into a single product.

I still think that using the Geonosis arena from AOTC as a concept, gives us a way of doing the hangar bay that isn’t overwhelming and could work with or without a Falcon. You put a blast door in for the duel, you add a chasm and a hallway, perhaps in the back, and you can even add the tractor beam control somewhere.

This could still be separate from the other modular scenes/sets but maybe be the ‘big’ one that ties them all together.
 
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Darth_Sceptaurus said:
That's a good question. Because technically the cantina could even be considered 'modular', couldn't it? I think most people are thinking of pieces that are sold separately or components that could be assembled to make a complete unit, or whatever configuration people want. A lot of people are also interested in it being released as separate areas but don't really care if they connect or not. So maybe we could assume just for simplicity that modular could include all of the above? Anyone have any thoughts on that?
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It's a very good question. The HasLab Cantina is most definitely modular. But as an advocate of an All-in-one Death Star, I wonder how loosely the term "modular" is being used by the voters supporting modular. I thought that a vintage Micro Collection style set upscaled to 3.75" could also be considered modular?

And if the modules are sold separately, then how would that fit into a HasLab?
 
Based on the percentages, currently 23% for All-in-one vs. 70% for modular, we could infer that most people are looking at it as an either/or situation, whereas the remainder either don't have a preference or may have selected both. But yeah as far as how you'd do it as a Haslab if it were modular, or separate for the purpose of this dialogue, I can think of a few areas that would warrant an entire Haslab, particularly if we're looking at the number of people who have selected Under $500 as a price point:

Emperor's Throne Room
Hangar Bay
Trash Compactor and/or Detention Center

Those are the first that come to mind but most of the main areas could potentially take up an entire Haslab depending on how they're done, scale used and price point.

So if modular does mean separate, which I kind of had in mind when creating the poll however I see how it can work both ways, then having one piece as a Haslab doesn't necessarily mean that every piece would have to be a Haslab. I'm sure people would also be interested in smaller set pieces, as well, such as a random hallway in the style of Tantive or a blast door with a couple wall pieces, etc. Those I feel could work well as stand-alone and wouldn't have to be dependent upon the success of the Haslab.
 
The Emperor's Throne Room and Hangar Bay are stand-alone pieces IMO. I'd be interested in both but would be disappointed if that was all that HasLab offered in terms of a Death Star.

I would incorporate the Trash Compactor and Detention Center as part of a larger HasLab Death Star to include other scenes from DS1.
 
So I've given a lot of thought to what should be included with this set and came to:

1. Trash Compactor w/closing walls and dianoga.
2. Detention Block AA-23 w/ included cell 2187 and breakaway wall that drops into the trash compactor.
3. Docking Bay 327 w/ working blast doors.
4. Control Room w/ chairs, consoles, and storage door for the droids to hide in.
5. Chasm at the center/core w/ extendable bridges, catwalks, ability to swing across, opening and closing doors, and tractor beam platform.
6. Hallways w/ blast doors.
7. Opened Hallway w/ elevator tubes.
8. Briefing Room w/ table and chairs.
9. Operations room w/ view screen and controls.
10. Death Star Turret room w/ turret for gunners.

All the ANH Officers, Tarkin especially, need to be redone if they haven't already, so all excluding Motti. We still desperately need a new C-3PO. The new Stormtrooper needs to be in constant circulation at the time of this. We'll need generic black outfit Imp. Officers. I wouldn't turn down new versions of Stormtrooper Luke and Han. Release the new Leia with soft goods lower skirt. Also would be a good time to do stormtrooper belt variants of the up coming Luke and Han. Updated Death Star Trooper or Army Builder set perhaps. Lastly, why not an update of the Space Trooper, the insanely obscure Imperial trooper variant only seen on the Death Star.
 
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