Hasbro Says It’s Game Over For Plastic Packaging

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Hasbro has plans to reduce the amount of Plastic used in the near future. What do you think this means for Star Wars toy line in the years to come?
Hasbro, one of the world’s largest toy manufacturers, has stepped up its sustainability game and is phasing out all plastics used to package its toys and games by the end of 2022.
The plastics ban covers just the packaging, not the plastic action figures or dolls or trucks inside the packaging. But Hasbro said it is targeting the most wasteful part of the toy buying experience – the part most likely to immediately end up in the trash.
Hasbro’s announcement today is part of a decade-long effort to reduce the environmental impact of its products.
The initiative helps Hasbro, the maker of brands like Monopoly, Nerf, My Little Pony and Magic: The Gathering, score points in several ways. Today’s young parents care about sustainability. And they are horrified by how much waste is generated by the packaging surrounding a typical action figure, doll, or toy truck.

The move could end up having the added bonus of making those packages easier for moms and dads to open going forward by eliminating the blister packs, shrink wraps, and plastic bags that toys are now encased in, sometimes in multiple layers.

Most of the toys Hasbro sells will continue to be made of plastic. But with the packaging decision, Hasbro is going after the most disposable, single-use part of the toy equation, something Hasbro President and Chief Operating Officer John Frascotti likens to the “water bottle” problem of the toy industry.

The toys, Frascotti said, typically stay with families for many years, but the packaging is discarded almost immediately. “So it’s more like a single-use plastic, more like a water bottle if you will,” he said.

etting rid of plastics in the packaging is a continuation of Hasbro’s efforts to show “good environmental stewardship,” Frascotti said.
It eliminated the use of wire ties – the strips used to hold action figures and toys in place so they don’t shift in the box – and replaced them with rattan in its packaging in 2010.
Last year Hasbro began using plant-based bioPET plastic in its packaging and it also launched a recycling program for toys that lets parents print a free shipping label and mail toys to TerraCycle, which turns them into new products.
The latest initiative means that Hasbro will eliminate use of the bioPET plastic as well.

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Good. I hope they set an example for a lot of businesses with this move. The added bonus could be that since the products are made in China etc. those countries too will look more into this, at a certain scale of course. But it's a start.
 
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I think it's cool. It'll also be nice to get a black series figure and not bend the lightsaber/weapon and practically have to smash the figure to get it out of the plastic tray it's on.
 
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This is a very cool and positive move. My only worry is how they might achieve a 'window'. Even with the new face print tech, a 100% perfect figure is still hard to find. I do like to check paint apps when buying in bricks and mortar, and hope this new innovation doesn't involve 'blind boxes'.
 
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I understand the reasoning behind this - but still don't think it's a good idea....and may actually lead me to completely leave this hobby:

If they eliminate all plastic packaging for carded/boxed figures (3.75" & 6"), then how will you see the figure in the package before you buy this?! I.e., I don't want to buy a figure, and then open a package - only to find that they've packaged the wrong figure - and/or that another customer has pulled a re-pack situation. I.e., at least now when figures are packaged in blisters & boxes you can see what you're getting ahead of time.

And this rationale even carries over to figures you would order from an online company like Amazon (for example). I.e., if I look at a product on a website & they show it boxed/carded - again, at least you can tell what you're getting when you order this. Granted, they may still send you the wrong item - but the likelyhood would be less if they themselves can see what they're sending you when they ship this.

Without plastic packaging, they will presumably just be using paper - and there is no way you would be able to see the figure(s) before the purchase. Forget it.

The only way I see that this 0 plastic packaging could work would be with vehicles without pack-in figures - which, IIRC, is already happening to a certain extent.
 
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not sure how Hasbro is going to tackle the concept of phasing out all plastic by 2020 but I found an interesting article about Plastic alternatives that Hasbro might be looking into. not sure if these plastics can be see through similar to the plastic we now all know of but its a start:

Plastics is one of the biggest challenges the world is facing right now. Thanks to David Attenborough’s Blue Planet, consumers are suddenly aware of the thousands of tonnes of plastic filling the ocean.
As plastic is so prolifically used, especially in packaging, brands are going to need to act quick to find plastic alternatives. In fact, 25% of consumers are extremely concerned about plastic packaging, 42% think manufacturers should prioritise making packaging recyclable and 21% think the industry should work toward entirely plastic-free packaging (Kantar). This number is only going to grow as plastic continues to get covered daily in the press. Brands will need to be seen to be taking a responsible approach, otherwise they will risk damaging their hard-earned equity.
With so many plastic alternatives being developed, we’ve rounded up 13 of the most exciting innovations in plastic replacement.
1. Plant-based plastics
A.K.A. Bioplastics are made from a variety of sources such as corn, which is broken down into PLA, or polylactic acid. This is incredibly sustainable to produce, as it’s made from the waste products from the production of corn – which is also easy to grow. PLA can be used to make drinks bottles, various food grade containers, as well as films. Eco-heroes Innocent are now making their bottles from 15% PLA.
2. Mushroom root
With Mycelium (mushroom roots, funnily enough, the same stuff that Quorn is made from), packaging is literally grown. Ecovative Design gather agricultural waste, mix it with the mycelium in moulds and then the packaging quite literally grows. You can see how it works here, though I’m not 100% sure it isn’t magic.
3. Bagasse
Bagasse is a by-product of sugarcane processing. Due to its malleability and stickiness, it can be easily moulded into packaging suitable for food delivery and food service – similar to polystyrene. Unlike polystyrene, it’s certified biodegradable and compostable, and being a by-product, much more sustainable to produce.
4. Seaweed water bubbles
UK startup Ooho have created an edible (and by default, biodegradable) water bubble made of seaweed. Their aim is “to provide the convenience of plastic bottles while limiting the environmental impact”.
They have developed manufacturing processes that make this both more efficient and cheaper than producing plastic bottles. The process produces 5x less CO₂ and uses 9x less Energy vs PET production.
5. Shower-friendly paper
Beauty behemoth L’Oréal have just launched an eco-beauty range, Seed Phytonutrients. The products themselves sound lovely (made from 93-100% natural ingredients, cruelty -free, paraben-free etc.) but the packaging is where the real innovation is.
Made by Ecologic, the outer card is recycled, recyclable, compostable, glue-free and water-resistant. The inner liner is made with recyclable plastic, and uses 60% less material than regular plastic bottles.
6. Stone paper and plastic
It might surprise you to know that paper can be made out of stone. It certainly did me. I have a stone paper notebook and it has the most beautiful smooth finish, almost cool to the touch. This incredible innovation has several possible packaging applications. It can be used as a paper or plastic alternative, being printable, recyclable, water-proof… and its eco-credentials look pretty good too. It is made from calcium carbonate, which is one of the Earth’s most abundant resources and its production process uses less water, has a lower carbon footprint, and is more energy efficient than regular paper production.
Stone paper can also be used to make FDA certified food grade packaging. This can be used for making paper (supermarket singlet) bags, takeaway food cartons, greaseproof paper wraps as well as Ziplock bags.
7. Palm leaves
Holy Lama use palm leaves from the areca palm to create the oyster-like cases for their handmade soaps. The leaves fall naturally from the areca palm, then they are collected and moulded into the desired shape. Brilliantly environmentally friendly as they use a natural waste product of the areca palm and the final packaging product is biodegradable.
A Berlin startup Arekapak is developing palm leaf packaging for food such as fresh fruit, vegetables and nuts.
8. Corn starch and sorghum loose fill
EcoFlo loose fill is made from corn starch and can be used the same way as regular polystyrene loose fill. This eco version – which can also be made from sorghum (a crop similar to popcorn) – is biodegradable, odour free, and maybe best of all; static-free!
9. Edible six-pack ring
Saltwater Brewery in America have developed a material for their six-pack rings which is not only biodegradable and compostable, but also edible. Made of barley and wheat remnants which are a by-product of the brewing process, if it’s dropped in the ocean now, this packaging will actually benefit the sea life!
10. Silberboard – metallised paper
Developed as a sustainable alternative to traditional composite metallised papers and boards, Silberboard is both recyclable and compostable. The paper weight can be used for food on-the-go and labelling, the card weight can be used for all kinds of boxes – for food, household goods, pharmaceuticals… etc. etc.
11. Wood pulp cellophane
NatureFlex is the sustainable younger brother of cellophane, which is made from FSC certified wood pulp, and certified biodegradable. It comes as Uncoated, which is perfect for chocolate and confectionery as well as household items; Semi-Permeable, which can be used for fresh produce and dairy; and Barrier for bakery, snacks, coffee, tea, chocolate, confectionery as well as home and personal care items.
12. Prawn shell plastic bags
Scientists around the world are developing plastic alternatives out of the most unlikely things. One of these is chitosan, which is made from prawn and crab shells, which are usually a waste product. No-one has commercialised this technology yet – but the material has the potential to replace plastic in packaging for food and drinks.
13. Milk plastic
Casein – the protein found in milk – has been used to make plastic for over a century, but it went out of fashion in favour of the more hardwearing, long-lasting petrochemical variety. Lactips have developed tech that combines the protein with clay and a reactive molecule (glyceraldehyde) which make the plastic much stronger, but still biodegradable. Lactips already produce milk plastic for the detergent industry (you know those little bubbles you pop in the dishwasher?) and now are looking to move into the food and beverage industry, as well as pharmaceuticals and agrochemicals.
It’s only a matter of time before your competitors start using one of these great developments and gain differentiation in the market. (We recently wrote about Veuve Clicquot’s eco-packaging initiatives.) How can your brand lead the way?
Want to explore packaging innovation? Talk to us.
 
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I hope they dont just leave the figures exposed like Mattel's Jurassic Dinos. No plastic on those packages , but I dont like that anyone can touch and mess with the toys while on the store shelf. I dont want to get a figure home only to find greasy fingerprints or boogers wiped on it. I may be weird, but I like my toys untouched until I get my
hands on them. I'm done with this line anyway save for Bespin Luke and Leia (dress) and Cantina aliens if they do them, but if they decide to save plastic by removing the window, I'm completely out.
 
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All very interesting, DarkArtist. I wasn't aware of these alternatives. It sounds like a lot of these are a lot more biodegradable than regular plastics. Going along with this, Going along with this, I definitely try to recycle everything possible - including, of course, plastic/paper packaging from SW toys I open ;)

In any case - if Hasbro can use an alternative to plastic - that is still a "covering" which enables you to see the figure(s) in the packaging, that would be fine with me. Time will tell re: what their plans are, however.

Zepp_Head, I also don't like the ideas of figures being packaged "loose". It's one thing if another customer can touch the package itself before you get to this; however, it's another if they've possibly messed up the figures (with dirt, grime, etc.) by touching them repeatedly before you get to them. These toys are packaged/enclosed before purchase for a reason.
 

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From Yackface "How will this effect the look of iconic action figure lines like the Vintage Collection and Black Series or does the switch to bioPET (from PVC) in bubbles and window boxes already address that initiative?"
 
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Yeah, in general, this is a good move, but as others have pointed out - the window to look at the figure is good for multiple reasons -

First of all - to see the figure inside obviously.
For people who don't open the figures, this is important.
At the same time, you don't want NO plastic window the box - just open air?
Accessories could get lost/stolen.
And the dust factor. People who display unopened - if there is no plastic window, the dust will be collecting INSIDE the box!
 
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not sure how Hasbro is going to tackle the concept of phasing out all plastic by 2020 but I found an interesting article about Plastic alternatives that Hasbro might be looking into. not sure if these plastics can be see through similar to the plastic we now all know of but its a start:

Plastics is one of the biggest challenges the world is facing right now. Thanks to David Attenborough’s Blue Planet, consumers are suddenly aware of the thousands of tonnes of plastic filling the ocean.
As plastic is so prolifically used, especially in packaging, brands are going to need to act quick to find plastic alternatives. In fact, 25% of consumers are extremely concerned about plastic packaging, 42% think manufacturers should prioritise making packaging recyclable and 21% think the industry should work toward entirely plastic-free packaging (Kantar). This number is only going to grow as plastic continues to get covered daily in the press. Brands will need to be seen to be taking a responsible approach, otherwise they will risk damaging their hard-earned equity.
With so many plastic alternatives being developed, we’ve rounded up 13 of the most exciting innovations in plastic replacement.
1. Plant-based plastics
A.K.A. Bioplastics are made from a variety of sources such as corn, which is broken down into PLA, or polylactic acid. This is incredibly sustainable to produce, as it’s made from the waste products from the production of corn – which is also easy to grow. PLA can be used to make drinks bottles, various food grade containers, as well as films. Eco-heroes Innocent are now making their bottles from 15% PLA.
2. Mushroom root
With Mycelium (mushroom roots, funnily enough, the same stuff that Quorn is made from), packaging is literally grown. Ecovative Design gather agricultural waste, mix it with the mycelium in moulds and then the packaging quite literally grows. You can see how it works here, though I’m not 100% sure it isn’t magic.
3. Bagasse
Bagasse is a by-product of sugarcane processing. Due to its malleability and stickiness, it can be easily moulded into packaging suitable for food delivery and food service – similar to polystyrene. Unlike polystyrene, it’s certified biodegradable and compostable, and being a by-product, much more sustainable to produce.
4. Seaweed water bubbles
UK startup Ooho have created an edible (and by default, biodegradable) water bubble made of seaweed. Their aim is “to provide the convenience of plastic bottles while limiting the environmental impact”.
They have developed manufacturing processes that make this both more efficient and cheaper than producing plastic bottles. The process produces 5x less CO₂ and uses 9x less Energy vs PET production.
5. Shower-friendly paper
Beauty behemoth L’Oréal have just launched an eco-beauty range, Seed Phytonutrients. The products themselves sound lovely (made from 93-100% natural ingredients, cruelty -free, paraben-free etc.) but the packaging is where the real innovation is.
Made by Ecologic, the outer card is recycled, recyclable, compostable, glue-free and water-resistant. The inner liner is made with recyclable plastic, and uses 60% less material than regular plastic bottles.
6. Stone paper and plastic
It might surprise you to know that paper can be made out of stone. It certainly did me. I have a stone paper notebook and it has the most beautiful smooth finish, almost cool to the touch. This incredible innovation has several possible packaging applications. It can be used as a paper or plastic alternative, being printable, recyclable, water-proof… and its eco-credentials look pretty good too. It is made from calcium carbonate, which is one of the Earth’s most abundant resources and its production process uses less water, has a lower carbon footprint, and is more energy efficient than regular paper production.
Stone paper can also be used to make FDA certified food grade packaging. This can be used for making paper (supermarket singlet) bags, takeaway food cartons, greaseproof paper wraps as well as Ziplock bags.
7. Palm leaves
Holy Lama use palm leaves from the areca palm to create the oyster-like cases for their handmade soaps. The leaves fall naturally from the areca palm, then they are collected and moulded into the desired shape. Brilliantly environmentally friendly as they use a natural waste product of the areca palm and the final packaging product is biodegradable.
A Berlin startup Arekapak is developing palm leaf packaging for food such as fresh fruit, vegetables and nuts.
8. Corn starch and sorghum loose fill
EcoFlo loose fill is made from corn starch and can be used the same way as regular polystyrene loose fill. This eco version – which can also be made from sorghum (a crop similar to popcorn) – is biodegradable, odour free, and maybe best of all; static-free!
9. Edible six-pack ring
Saltwater Brewery in America have developed a material for their six-pack rings which is not only biodegradable and compostable, but also edible. Made of barley and wheat remnants which are a by-product of the brewing process, if it’s dropped in the ocean now, this packaging will actually benefit the sea life!
10. Silberboard – metallised paper
Developed as a sustainable alternative to traditional composite metallised papers and boards, Silberboard is both recyclable and compostable. The paper weight can be used for food on-the-go and labelling, the card weight can be used for all kinds of boxes – for food, household goods, pharmaceuticals… etc. etc.
11. Wood pulp cellophane
NatureFlex is the sustainable younger brother of cellophane, which is made from FSC certified wood pulp, and certified biodegradable. It comes as Uncoated, which is perfect for chocolate and confectionery as well as household items; Semi-Permeable, which can be used for fresh produce and dairy; and Barrier for bakery, snacks, coffee, tea, chocolate, confectionery as well as home and personal care items.
12. Prawn shell plastic bags
Scientists around the world are developing plastic alternatives out of the most unlikely things. One of these is chitosan, which is made from prawn and crab shells, which are usually a waste product. No-one has commercialised this technology yet – but the material has the potential to replace plastic in packaging for food and drinks.
13. Milk plastic
Casein – the protein found in milk – has been used to make plastic for over a century, but it went out of fashion in favour of the more hardwearing, long-lasting petrochemical variety. Lactips have developed tech that combines the protein with clay and a reactive molecule (glyceraldehyde) which make the plastic much stronger, but still biodegradable. Lactips already produce milk plastic for the detergent industry (you know those little bubbles you pop in the dishwasher?) and now are looking to move into the food and beverage industry, as well as pharmaceuticals and agrochemicals.
It’s only a matter of time before your competitors start using one of these great developments and gain differentiation in the market. (We recently wrote about Veuve Clicquot’s eco-packaging initiatives.) How can your brand lead the way?
Want to explore packaging innovation? Talk to us.
Wow! fascinating stuff!

I mean, as much as like window-box packaging and bubbles on card and am also a mint in box collector, this is a much needed and long overdue development. Hopefully they come up with an ideal solution
 
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I'm all for this. Working in a toy shop, the amount of plastic used in packaging has really shocked me - especially when a lot of it isn't even needed. Star Wars is one of the few lines we stock that uses the least amount of plastic, but the elimination of it altogether is a move I back wholeheartedly.

I know a lot of you might be worried about how this will affect the "window" on the boxes, but I expect Hasbro are working on that and they'll come up with a reasonable solution.
 
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I am sure there are several other products and toy lines that this will affect. However it said they are trying to reduce the amount of plastic used. I don't see this having too much affect on Star Wars toys. Most of the vehicle boxes no longer have the plastic window. So that is one thing they can continue with. They have already started to use smaller card backs on the "non vintage collection" figures. And if they made the bubbles smaller, like the original Kenner days, that would also reduce the amount of plastic being used.
 
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My next question for 'organic plastic-like compounds' - if they are designed to be bio-degradable, what is the actual shelf life 'on display' non-temperature controlled environment?

I hate to even bring it up, but it bears some consideration for those who are 'mint in package/box' collectors.

I am around a 60% open, 40% keep boxed collector.

I like to open the boxes, but sometimes the packaged presentation is too nice to open! :awesome: :rolleyes: :p
 
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Meh, people who are "horrified" by the amount of plastic waste created by toy packaging are probably already "horrified" enough to be recycling that plastic. This all just comes across like corporate virtue signalling. Besides, the United States is hardly the worst offender out there:


I could imagine Hasbro coming up with an exemption for toys marketed to collectors, since collectors are known to preserve the packaging along with the toys inside of it.
 
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I agree with the post above. It’s like the passing of laws ordering that no more plastic straws be allowed in some idiotic run citys and states. Now they will only allow paper straws which of course will come from tearing down millions of tree’s.
 
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TBH, I never got the whole straw issue. Why not just use the same lids that coffee cups use? You know with an open section for drinking, some even have flaps that close...

I also have only ever seen a few stray straws in the wild in my lifetime. Yet we can't seem to ban used needles in public spaces...

I feel the worst thing is those plastic bags, they're everywhere. Flying across the streets, overhead.


The problem we face, is that the nation became a disposable monster. Now someone wants to reign it in, but Companies have built their infrastructure with disposable mindset. So now it will cost a considerable amount to correct it. In this day and age, there has to be more biodegradable product than ever. Or even reusable without the air pollution needed to break it down.
 
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Your post reminded me that the reason we added plastic bags in the first place, is that they were suppose to save the environment from the use of all of those paper bags that were causing the destruction of every Forrest on the planet, Now plastic bags are the enemy!? I’ll add the giant batteries in all of the new environmentally friendly cars that don’t use regular fuel are not recycled so they will be buried in landfills. Nice going morons! I would rather the pollution be going in the ozone then in the ground poisoning humans, animals, the water supply and of course food that’s grown in the soil. It’s reminds me of the idiotic city’s in California that give brand new needles to drug addicts to supposedly cut down on disease for them from sharing needles. Of course they don’t really care and toss the used needles on the ground along with allot worse things. It’s actually these blow hard do gooders that-make things worse at every chance they get by coming up with lunatic decisions, that they make sound like the ultimate solution to everyone’s problems.
 
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Agree with all of this. They tried the plastic bag ban in my area several years ago, and it didn't do any good - and was just an inconvenience.

Also, @#%$ giving drug addicts needles. Sure, they'll probably do what they're doing anyway - but, why spend money to encourage their addiction? Crazy.
 
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I’ll add the giant batteries in all of the new environmentally friendly cars that don’t use regular fuel are not recycled so they will be buried in landfills. Nice going morons!
From what I've read, those batteries make electric cars much heavier than regular cars, which puts more stress on the brakes and releases more brake dust into the air every time the cars come to a stop. Brake dust released into the air is actually worse than the exhaust from internal combustion engines, which makes electric cars MORE destructive to the environment, not less.

Typical human engineering. Trying to solve a problem and we end up making things worse. :grin:

But then, why bother listening to people who try to claim that carbon dioxide is a pollutant? That's like claiming oxygen and water are pollutants. More carbon dioxide in the air simply means healthier, more robust, and more plentiful plant life on our planet. Isn't that the entire goal of environmentalism?
 
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Well, according to someone, we only have 12 years left...


I guess we just have the cut off your nose despite your face mentality. Too busy trying to find some better way to do things, and just wind up creating a problem for the future generations.
I'd be curious to know what the people 50 years from now will think of all this.
 
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I just want to correct some very wrong misconceptions I just read in here about electric cars. First off, I am absolutely not a tree hugging environmentalist. I own a Tesla Model 3. Not because it’s environmentally friendly but because it is an awesome and amazingly futuristic car that suits my transportation needs very well and is a ton of fun to drive.

That being said, yes, it is heavier than other cars it’s size. But it’s not *drastically* heavier (about 4000lbs vs a bmw 3 series’ ~3600 lbs). But saying it uses more brakes to stop that small amount of extra weight is entirely wrong. The model 3, like most electric cars, has regenerative braking wherein the electric motors act as generators absorbing the cars kinetic energy by slowing it down. And it’s very effective. People refer to it as “one pedal driving” but the net result is that I *rarely* touch the brakes at speeds faster than 10mph and I pretty much only touch the brakes when coming to a complete stop. All other braking is the regenerative type by the engines recharging the battery. If anything, I use FAR LESS actual brakes (and thus generate far less brake dust) than a traditional gas powered car.

Secondly, a quick internet search will show that the batteries are most certainly recyclable. I didn’t dive too deep into this one so I can’t say exactly how much is recyclable. But still, they aren’t just going to landfills and polluting everything up.

Now I’m with you guys on paper straws and free needles for junkies. That poop needs to stop!
 
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I just want to correct some very wrong misconceptions I just read in here about electric cars. First off, I am absolutely not a tree hugging environmentalist. I own a Tesla Model 3. Not because it’s environmentally friendly but because it is an awesome and amazingly futuristic car that suits my transportation needs very well and is a ton of fun to drive.

That being said, yes, it is heavier than other cars it’s size. But it’s not *drastically* heavier (about 4000lbs vs a bmw 3 series’ ~3600 lbs). But saying it uses more brakes to stop that small amount of extra weight is entirely wrong. The model 3, like most electric cars, has regenerative braking wherein the electric motors act as generators absorbing the cars kinetic energy by slowing it down. And it’s very effective. People refer to it as “one pedal driving” but the net result is that I *rarely* touch the brakes at speeds faster than 10mph and I pretty much only touch the brakes when coming to a complete stop. All other braking is the regenerative type by the engines recharging the battery. If anything, I use FAR LESS actual brakes (and thus generate far less brake dust) than a traditional gas powered car.

Secondly, a quick internet search will show that the batteries are most certainly recyclable. I didn’t dive too deep into this one so I can’t say exactly how much is recyclable. But still, they aren’t just going to landfills and polluting everything up.

Now I’m with you guys on paper straws and free needles for junkies. That poop needs to stop!

I’ll recorrect you on your battery misconceptions. Only the small ones use some recycled parts. If you have the larger one ( the one that they push now that last longer and has more power) and it goes bad you must purchase an all new one, They are thousands of dollars, in some caes’s 3-5 thousand. They do not sell used one’s and are not allowed to by law. Where do you think these dead and broke batteries are going? Do you think the green new deal car salesman is going to tell you the truth when you buy one of these cars about all of these negatives, if you think so you are sadly mistaken. Again this is bs about saving the planet but in turn will make it worse. Don’t bother sending me google search pages about the good of battery operated cars and batteries. My info comes from a family that has been in the battery business since it was created.
 
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Who said anything about buying used batteries? You seem to be confusing recycling with re-using. When you recycle a plastic bottle you don’t just fill it back up. You melt it down and create something new with the plastic. Likewise, spent batteries are dismantled and the metals are melted down to be used for producing new batteries. I personally don’t care one way or the other about the environmental impact (if that was really a major concern people would find ways to stop needing cars of any kind), but saying the used batteries are just filling up landfills is not true.

Also, the batteries are made up of multiple small cells so it just depends on what has “gone bad”. Maybe you have to replace the whole thing, maybe not.

i just get annoyed when I see people so anti-electric car when they don’t seem to have any actual experience with or factual knowledge of what they’re like. Electric cars (especially Tesla’s) are amazingly cool in so many ways. It kinda reminds me of the RC airplane hobby. That has shifted from gas motors to almost entirely electric in the last decade. Not because of any green movement but because once the electric motors got powerful enough to keep up with the gas powered ones, people realized the electric motors were better, easier to use, more reliable, etc etc etc. Electric cars are the future because they’ve now reached the point where they can be better than gas cars.
 
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Yeah, what I said is you can’t recycle the large batteries at all. You know the one’s were talking about. And electric cars are not the future. They have been around since the invention of the automobile. There’s a reason, they never caught on. And could one of the reasons be I don’t know the giant batteries we are talking about and the problems there in? I guess the green new deal salesman got to you with his sales pitch. If you think your doing something good for the environment then that’s okay as well. I just get annoyed when I see people selling bs as facts. These bs scare stories peddled by the green new deal gang keep telling you they know better than everyone and every time the facts show how there great ideas always make things worse.
 
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If they’re so worried about the environment how about not producing more crap, peg-warming toys that end up in landfills sooner or later?
 
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Yeah, what I said is you can’t recycle the large batteries at all.
And what I’m saying is even a tiny amount of research will prove that is patently not true. They can and do get recycled.

Electric vehicles didn’t catch on before because the technology wasn’t mature enough to allow for range and power that could even begin to compete with gas powered vehicles. Now it is. Like it or not, for anyone living in an urban or suburban environment, electric vehicles are totally the way of the future. I never have to waste my time stopping at a gas station again and it is glorious. Every day when I wake up my car is topped up and ready to go. And it’s faster, smoother, quieter, and more fun than almost any other car on the road (certainly any other car in its price range). And I’m not speaking based on some sales pitch that I bought into or some misguided desire to save the earth by telling other people what to do. I’m merely speaking based on my own real-world experience. I used to laugh at Prius owners (and I still think those cars are lame). But after driving and now owning a Tesla, I’m absolutely a convert. I never want another gas car again. I’m not saying they’re perfect, I’m just saying they’re better than what we had before.

You've obviously already made up your mind though, so I won’t waste either or our time anymore. I think we’ve derailed the thread way more than we really should’ve already.
 
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If they’re so worried about the environment how about not producing more crap, peg-warming toys that end up in landfills sooner or later?
That just sounds way too logical!

But hey, with that mentality why even make anything. Since everything ends up there sooner or later anyways.
 
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If they’re so worried about the environment how about not producing more crap, peg-warming toys that end up in landfills sooner or later?

Another thing on Hasbro, if they actually do what they say they will do and stop making plastic and do away with bubbles on action figure cards and see through windows on all other toys you can expect sales will fall and you can really expect figures and other items will be swapped out and returned to no end. It will be the worse thing Hasbro has ever done.

I could be wrong though and maybe this noble deed will be the one that saves the world entire. I’m betting a fortune against it though. :)
 
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Another thing on Hasbro, if they actually do what they say they will do and stop making plastic and do away with bubbles on action figure cards and see through windows on all other toys you can expect sales will fall and you can really expect figures and other items will be swapped out and returned to no end. It will be the worse thing Hasbro has ever done.
Agreed. As I said before, my #1 concern here re: the loss of plastic packaging is that collectors/fans won't be able to actually see the toys in the packages before getting them. This is a huge issue if you are getting toys @ retail stores. However - and also as I said before - even if you order online it's still beneficial for the company/store you order from to be able to see the figures on the cards (3.75" figures) or boxes (6" figures) prior to sending them to you - this will obviously decrease the chances of your receiving the wrong toy. I buy @ retail stores & also online - so, either way, this is a concern.

So, I can unequivocally say that if this happens, I will stop collecting these figures....unless Hasbro figures out a way that we can still see the figures without the plastic packaging.
 
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Well, considering it's becoming more and more difficult to find "Star Wars" Action Figures at stores. And becoming more mail order prominent, then why not just have Pulse ship them to you in a small tubular box similar to Matchbox cars?

TBH, getting rid of the plastic bands and cradle that hold figures in would be just fine. Since they generally just end up bending the figure's limbs etc. But part of the allure for MOC Collectors, is the clear packaging for display. So I don't see them ditching that any time soon. At least with TVC cards there's less of it, compared to past years like Saga, OTC, TLC, ROTS.
 
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TBH, getting rid of the plastic bands and cradle that hold figures in would be just fine. Since they generally just end up bending the figure's limbs etc. But part of the allure for MOC Collectors, is the clear packaging for display. So I don't see them ditching that any time soon. At least with TVC cards there's less of it, compared to past years like Saga, OTC, TLC, ROTS.

I don't know if many people have noticed, but for the Vintage Collection, Hasbro has already gotten rid of the small rubber bands that they used to hold figures accessories in their hands as they now just place the accessories separately in the plastic inner tray and not in the figures hands. I actually like this approach for the
Vintage Collection because I think it looks better and because the accessories no longer get bent up by being tied to the figures hands which causes them to warp.
 
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I'm sure we'll get to the point one day where Hasbro just puts a barcode across the butt and throws all the figures loose in a big bin. :p
 
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That tech has been around for several years already, what kinks are there left to work out exactly? It not costing more than the actual product they're selling I presume.
 
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Companies just don't want to spend the money adding something to a product if they don't absolutely have to as it would eat into their profit.
 
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this may or may not be a post worth making but here I go anyway

I quit toy collecting several years ago for a variety of reasons (none involving a disinterest in the collecting itself) with one of the big ones being my concern over my own environmental impact. I understand that my collecting was a fairly small part of my environmental impact and that the toy industry itself isn’t among the biggest causes of our environmental woes. But I knew it was something that I could sacrifice without disrupting my usual routine (as opposed to completely giving up my car or my washer/dryer, for example). and I could use it as another way to prepare myself mentally for any future changes that will put me further out of my comfort zone. I have to imagine with the way things are going environment-wise, that bigger, structural changes will have to be made and I better be ready.

I still miss collecting; I wouldn’t still lurk around places like this if I didn’t. I’m just always conflicted on what my responsibilities are to the wider world. I guess it is fine that Hasbro is doing what they can to reduce their impact without touching the actual product although I felt that I personally had to go further.

although when I was collecting I was making an attempt to be as conscientious as I could by doing my store runs by bicycle. I usually took at least an hour and a half (so I only had time/energy on the weekends) but at least it kept me trim.

I didn’t know if anyone else had any similar experiences.
 
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btw, I hope that I didn’t come off as trying to scold or guilt anyone who is still collecting. I made my decision on my own volition and everyone has their own reasons for collecting or not-collecting. again, our environmental problems go far beyond personal consumption habits.
 
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