General Veers - VC#392

[Rezikai]

I have my favorite sub-themes to collect. Cantina aliens, Ewoks, Rebel Pilots, Jabba's Denizens, Prequel Jedi, and, maybe, most of all, Skiff Guards are high on my love list. I just adore all these subcategories. But another is Imperial Officers. I can see why some may find them bland or boring...but I just love them. And for those who do think they're bland, at least Veers is more interesting and battle-ready.

I'm very happy to see this guy updated. I feel like I'm one of the few that's actually very excited by this wave. Add to this, if you have an extra officer, you can make an armorless Veers, I'd presume, pretty easily so long as the head fits on the ball peg of a Piett or so. Though, now that I think on it, I'm not sure if the rank badge would work...but maybe? Anyone know? But even if not, it's easy to overlook.

Still have my heart set on a modernized Imperial Briefing Room set with a new Tarkin, Tagge, Cass, Bast, and Yularen since we already have Motti. An easy way to get a bunch of named officers out in one swoop—think akin to the cantina band set. I'm also hoping for Needa, Ozzel, and an all-black uniform officer eventually. I'd love to see Daala and Isard someday, too, using the female mold made with Deedra. They're all incredibly easy figures to make, all effectively just needing new heads, but all still desirable. Well...at least to me.

I wonder if we'll ever get an update for one of my all-time favorite SW figures, the Imperial scanning crew member. I know it's an odd favorite, but I just love hyper-generic figures because they appeal to the diorama builder in me. Generic background roles really, really, really make a scene feel lived in and alive.

indeed the imperial officer sculpt offers so much in possibilities especially for villains of the early old EU. Heck throw in Baron Fel, even for new games like Admrial Versio or Ray Sloane. (all with removable hats of course!)
as the non-removable hat makes Gilead Paelleon look like his hat is too small for his head and "Cones" up like Bast's hat...or didn't ya ever notice Bast takes his hat off when not walking around. and why the ESB/RotJ officers have them down around the crown of their heads because they fit better imo.

 

[Masterfett]

Removable hats have become a point of contention here lately, only because Hasbro seems to have forgot how to tool small stuff thus makes the hats oversized. Ever since Paelleon release people are now clamoring for sculpted hats, which from a customizer standpoint I dislike that idea very much.

 

[Chamberlain]

But that makes no sense, as the Kenner figure was, of course, based on Veers and not supposed to be just some random idiot.

Yeah it was.

 

[R1G4R3PO]

Odd this is referred to as a 96er when we had "AT-AT Commander" already counted in as a 96ers. So will we have to endure another TVC Power Doid release before General Madine? LOL.

Interesting note though, some Canadian fig sets did call the fig, General Veers.

Empire Strikes Back General Veers - Star Wars Collectors Archive

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[legacyknight]

Veers is one of those odd O96 adjacent figures where the character appears on the Imperial Commander (non-armored), but it’s the Black Uniformed Officer as the figure.

I guess you could make the argument that AT-AT Commander Kenner figure was supposed to be him, too (I think it was), but that one has more of a gray area to it. The Canada stuff is interesting, though, didn’t know about that.

Yeah, the O96 stuff can get confusing at times.

 

[Masterfett]

My thoughts on the Imperial Commander was that it is simply one of those mistakes during production. Either the factory used the wrong color, or Kenner didn't exactly know what the Imperial Commander looked like at the time and assumed he wore the black outfit seen in ANH. Or maybe that figure was actually planned for ANH release but never made it out in time thus was placed on an ESB card? Heck, it wouldn't be the only production mistake during their tenure nor their last when it was under Hasbro. lol

I think Veers was meant to be the AT-AT Commander because a lot of troopers didn't have an name, heck most of the Imperial bad guys didn't besides Vader. They never made Tarkin and he could have simply been called an Imperial Commander too. We didn't start getting Imperials with actual names until 1997.

When it comes to recreating a 96er there are a few that are nebulous because of those mistakes, such as the Rebel Soldier (Hoth Battle gear) that is actually a HRT painted to look like the Echo base deck officer.

So technically this first figure doesn't fill an OG 96 slot, they would need to repaint the second figure and tool a new head in order to match the one above. Also needs new legs.

So do the people it matters to feel this slot is covered, by this inaccurate figure? The few I've spoke to says no. But the majority probably don't care as they're simply after a Deck Officer not recreating mistakes from Kenner line. I will say this sounds like a great item for repaint 4-pk like how they handled the Cantina Adventure set. OG Kenner callbacks specific to a niche crowd. Though I'm not sure if they could scrounge up four mistakes like this.

BTW, Hasbro has also never addressed the Rebel Commander, HRT with a mustache. Put that in a multipack with Cloud Car Pilot. I wouldn't mind seeing the latter reissued. Or would have before $20 price.

 

[Hoth_My_Fav]

buying a ton!!!!

 

[Chamberlain]

My thoughts on the Imperial Commander was that it is simply one of those mistakes during production. Either the factory used the wrong color, or Kenner didn't exactly know what the Imperial Commander looked like at the time and assumed he wore the black outfit seen in ANH. Or maybe that figure was actually planned for ANH release but never made it out in time thus was placed on an ESB card? Heck, it wouldn't be the only production mistake during their tenure nor their last when it was under Hasbro. lol

I think Veers was meant to be the AT-AT Commander because a lot of troopers didn't have an name, heck most of the Imperial bad guys didn't besides Vader. They never made Tarkin and he could have simply been called an Imperial Commander too. We didn't start getting Imperials with actual names until 1997.

When it comes to recreating a 96er there are a few that are nebulous because of those mistakes, such as the Rebel Soldier (Hoth Battle gear) that is actually a HRT painted to look like the Echo base deck officer.

So technically this first figure doesn't fill an OG 96 slot, they would need to repaint the second figure and tool a new head in order to match the one above. Also needs new legs.

So do the people it matters to feel this slot is covered, by this inaccurate figure? The few I've spoke to says no. But the majority probably don't care as they're simply after a Deck Officer not recreating mistakes from Kenner line. I will say this sounds like a great item for repaint 4-pk like how they handled the Cantina Adventure set. OG Kenner callbacks specific to a niche crowd. Though I'm not sure if they could scrounge up four mistakes like this.

BTW, Hasbro has also never addressed the Rebel Commander, HRT with a mustache. Put that in a multipack with Cloud Car Pilot. I wouldn't mind seeing the latter reissued. Or would have before $20 price.

I’m special, so don’t mine have
soft goods skirts?

 

[Masterfett]

I’m special, so don’t mine have
soft goods skirts?

Yes, and so do mine. I don't know why the figure in that photo is lacking one.

 

[legacyknight]

If I remember correctly, the first batch of those guys didn’t have the skirt (factory error). Later runs did, though.

 

[Chamberlain]

Yes, and so do mine. I don't know why the figure in that photo is lacking one.

Stop looking up my skirt!

 

[Chamberlain]

Prevert

 

[tanksmasher]

I think they need to do the Rebel Commander, in particular Major Derlin. That will take care of the slot. I also want to see a new black uniform officer for TVC. Not just another Veers without his armor.

 

[R1G4R3PO]

I think they need to do the Rebel Commander, in particular Major Derlin. That will take care of the slot. I also want to see a new black uniform officer for TVC. Not just another Veers without his armor.

I'd rather see a redo of Maj Derlin as Maj. Derlin. For "Rebel Commander" I'd like to see either of these 2...prefferably Leia's BTS alt outfit

Or the original paint/color scheme of....



Which should've been the officer in the hoth trooper 4pk instead of 4 identical outfitted troops

 

[wedgeswingman]

I'd rather see a redo of Maj Derlin as Maj. Derlin. For "Rebel Commander" I'd like to see either of these 2...prefferably Leia's BTS alt outfit
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Or the original paint/color scheme of....

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Which should've been the officer in the hoth trooper 4pk instead of 4 identical outfitted troops

Major Derlin has a totally different uniform though. He's got that heavy jacket like Reeikan.

 

[Masterfett]

Major Derlin has a totally different uniform though. He's got that heavy jacket like Reeikan.

This is why I think Hasbro should make a new Rieekan, while not repeatable as much as Imperial Officers they could get a few characters most notably these two but there is another General behind Toryn Farr seen here.

And all they'd have to do for tooling is similar to the Imperial Officers, alternate front halves of the torso for specific ranks. i.e. General, Major, but maybe even a couple others just for troop builder purposes. Though I doubt these would be ideal for a trooper 4-pk, probably just some background fodder for command center if we ever get one. Rieekan is in desperate need of updating to match most of his scene companions, Derlin is somewhat okay as a sculpt somewhere in between then and now. But still lacking in some ways compared to today's sculpts.
BTW, I'd live to be able to build out tat scene with a playset similar to Jabba's Palace!

 

[R1G4R3PO]

Major Derlin has a totally different uniform though. He's got that heavy jacket like Reeikan.

That was my point. I don't want a Derlin fig labeled as "Rebel Commander"

 

[Binary_Sunset]

I think Veers was meant to be the AT-AT Commander.

If I'm not mistaken, the original AT-AT Commander was advertised as General Veers by Sears Canada.

 

[Trooper31]

If I'm not mistaken, the original AT-AT Commander was advertised as General Veers by Sears Canada.

I didn't know that. As a kid, I always just assumed that the figure was General Veers anyway.

 

[Idpullthecurtain]

I didn't know that. As a kid, I always just assumed that the figure was General Veers anyway.

It was

 

[lister]

Isn't Veers the only character we see in that costume? So whether or not the AT-AT Commander was advertised as General Veers or was even meant to be him, it's pretty much him by default anyway.

 

[Chamberlain]

indeed the imperial officer sculpt offers so much in possibilities especially for villains of the early old EU. Heck throw in Baron Fel, even for new games like Admrial Versio or Ray Sloane. (all with removable hats of course!)
non-removable hat makes Gilead Paelleon look like his hat is too small for his head and "Cones" up like Bast's hat...or didn't ya ever notice Bast takes his hat off when not walking around. and why the ESB/RotJ officers have them down around the crown of their heads because they fit better imo.

I love my Admiral Griff custom. And it was such an easy one to make after I found the coat.

 

[Masterfett]

Seeing this revealed came as a bit of a funny coincidence only because not long ago I did a mini collection purge and decided to remove the old Saga Veers and place him in the "sell off" bin. Only because in the back of my mind I felt a new one was coming eventually and I needed to make room, unfortunately for me I didn't sell him off soon enough due to sheer laziness. So now I suspect whatever minimal value that figure did have was just cut in half. lol
Same story with the older Snowtroopers, I actually was going to sell them and Veers off as a lot. I really do need to stop procrastinating on that kind of stuff. Though Luckily I did sell of my old Shocktroopers long before the new one hit.

 

[tanksmasher]

If not Derlin then I’d like to have a figure of the original card back character or at least someone that wears that jacket.

 

[Tyranusspotting]

I'd rather see a redo of Maj Derlin as Maj. Derlin. For "Rebel Commander" I'd like to see either of these 2...prefferably Leia's BTS alt outfit

Or the original paint/color scheme of....

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Which should've been the officer in the hoth trooper 4pk instead of 4 identical outfitted troops

Now that‘s curious. When and where is this image from? Some toy magazine from yesteryear?

 

[yodashizzle]

Now that‘s curious. When and where is this image from? Some toy magazine from yesteryear?

It's from the Blue Milk Vintage Collection book. There was a section of unproduced and prototype material, that Hoth figure was one of those.

 

[SGT_A]

It's from the Blue Milk Vintage Collection book. There was a section of unproduced and prototype material, that Hoth figure was one of those.

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I believe that book also showed the now released by Disney probe droid with pod (which I still want, lol). I’m still happy Veers is coming, definite pick up for me.

 

[Rezikai]

I believe that book also showed the now released by Disney probe droid with pod (which I still want, lol). I’m still happy Veers is coming, definite pick up for me.

It does show the Probe Droid pod but the Disney Version is a different mold i think. IIRC the TVC one was a bit more detailed and more beefy.

 

[Jodo]

There were actually two different sculpts of pods used in ESB!

Hasbro’s unreleased pod is the short version, and Disney’s release was modeled after the long version.

 

[R1G4R3PO]

BB's review.....

 

[Masterfett]

Might have been just the lighting in the video but it appears to be slightly daker color than previous Officers. I guess it doesn't matter as much with veers as he'll be off in a separate display with no like characters but when it comes to Tarkin I hope they haven't run out of the colors they were using and he's darker than all the rest.

That said, he's a stellar upgrade and glad they made him sooner rather than much later.

 

[Jodo]

I figured that would be an ongoing problem with officers. The uniforms would be slightly off by a shade each time a new one was released.

 

[JediDelight]

I want to see how easily the head sculpt on Veers could be swapped to the regular officer body and how the officer cap fits this head sculpt.

 

[Masterfett]

I would imagine it's still quite easy, for the most part it's still the same engineering and the caps fit pretty much anyone with a reg sized noggin. The only figures it seemed too large for were the older slightly smaller heads from previous lines. Most of the TVC 2.0 head it fits fine. Well aside from the female heads or those with separately sculpted hair. It would seem to me anyway that Hasbro would retain the same neck barbel for all of the Officers, though I've not tried to head swap Kallus.

 

[Rezikai]

I want to see how easily the head sculpt on Veers could be swapped to the regular officer body and how the officer cap fits this head sculpt.

another reason for removable caps on imperial officers!

 

[Chamberlain]

another reason for removable caps on imperial officers!

As long as the cap fits.

 

[Chamberlain]

I’m still amazed he gets his toys so soon.

I’d like to have seem him stand the Veers figure, without the helmet I suppose, next to Vader.

 

[Masterfett]

As long as the cap fits.

Wear it?

I will say that the reason for this mess is due to tooling costs = "wall thickness", so we can no longer have skinny things. The older hats while stiffer did at least look normal size but due to the rigidness didn't fit everyone. I do like that the new cap is made of more flexible material so that it can fit almost anyone it does look a bit 'sloppy'.

 

[Rezikai]

Wear it?

I will say that the reason for this mess is due to tooling costs = "wall thickness", so we can no longer have skinny things. The older hats while stiffer did at least look normal size but due to the rigidness didn't fit everyone. I do like that the new cap is made of more flexible material so that it can fit almost anyone it does look a bit 'sloppy'.

agreed while slightly more setting on the head its thicker and more flexible, also the beany hats of the old Japanese imperial navy/army which they are based off of were also lower and around the sides of the head plenty.

Don't fall for Conehead aesthetics that wouldn't be practical! Remember when Baast runs away from Tarkin in the ANH deleted scene his hat flies off his head because it was simply resting on his head that high up... it looks good to folks from Remulak.. but not to the rest of us humans!


note: odd,.. when i searched google i can no longer find the cut sequence or even a still of Baast running from Tarkin anymore... even though I have it somewhere in an old insider mag or Topps Galaxy magazine. ... the washing of historical star wars continues

 

[Agen_Kolar]

agreed while slightly more setting on the head its thicker and more flexible, also the beany hats of the old Japanese imperial navy/army which they are based off of were also lower and around the sides of the head plenty.

Don't fall for Conehead aesthetics that wouldn't be practical! Remember when Baast runs away from Tarkin in the ANH deleted scene his hat flies off his head because it was simply resting on his head that high up... it looks good to folks from Remulak.. but not to the rest of us humans!


note: odd,.. when i searched google i can no longer find the cut sequence or even a still of Baast running from Tarkin anymore... even though I have it somewhere in an old insider mag or Topps Galaxy magazine. ... the washing of historical star wars continues

What was the context of the scene?