ESB 47 back Zuckuss proof
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Thanks to everyone who contacted me about this proof. It has been located and here's to hoping something can be worked out with the current owner to help acquire it : ) I am also looking for the production ESB 47 back Zuckuss shown below - or another production example as I understand a few have now surfaced. If you know of one, please let me know. Thanks.
I remember that one being listed on eBay. I'd read before it was unproduced and dismissed it without even opening the listing as being a fake. So obviously real in hindsight!
Interesting that more have been turned up. Makes the ESB 47 run plausible now.
Interesting that more have been turned up. Makes the ESB 47 run plausible now.
I was discussing this figure with a friend yesterday and he believes that at least one more production 47bk. Zuckuss surfaced after this one. If you click on the picture there appears to be some residue from what looks to be a price sticker in the (our) top right hand corner, just under the age grade. My guess is that there were a very limited number of these produced right before the switch over to the 48 back card.
Would love to hear some other thoughts and opinions...
Rob
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Don't forget the Canadian 47-back:
I've only seen and heard of 2 Kenner 47 back Zuckuss figures and had always assumed it was just a very rare production version since the Zuckuss figure was photographed on the 47 back figure grouping. Of course there are a couple of 45 backs out there too with the darker pre production figure.
Oli,
Do you have any scans saved of the 45 backs with the darker Zuckuss figures?
My guess - and anyone please feel free to chime in if you think otherwise - is that the 47 back Zuckuss shown in the photo I posted is a 100% legitimate production example which shipped out to retail.
IMHO it's highly likely that a small number of Zuckuss figures were packaged on 47 back cards right before Kenner switched over to the 48 back card, and the confirmation of at least a second 47 back Zuckuss identical to the one posted above tells me that there's a chance, however small it may be, that more could surface down the road.
Does anyone have photos of the other 47 back Zuckuss?
Here you go Rob...
I sold this to another collector last year. Perhaps it's hard to tell from the photos but the figure is the same dark grey / black as the first shot pictured below
I would agree with you. I don't know if it's as simple as this but I'd always considered the 47 back to be production simply because Zuckuss appeared in the 47 back figure grouping and not on the 45 back figure grouping
I sold this to another collector last year. Perhaps it's hard to tell from the photos but the figure is the same dark grey / black as the first shot pictured below
I would agree with you. I don't know if it's as simple as this but I'd always considered the 47 back to be production simply because Zuckuss appeared in the 47 back figure grouping and not on the 45 back figure grouping
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Thanks Oli. The difference is very clear when compared side by side with a production figure.
Rob
Do you recall where you saw the second 47 back ? In a collection or a sale ?
Unfortunately I haven't seen it. I'm going purely by word of mouth some time back and I'd heard someone else say the same thing. I'm trying to recall a thread on Rebelscum where it was mentioned. Of course as is often the case with these things if something exchanges hands one or twice it sometimes looks like more exist than really do. So there could quite possibly be only one.
OK thanks for clarifying. Seems strange to only be one known and especially as it seems store sold. I've not even seen a used cardback turn up.
Yeah no worries. I didn't want to perpetuate a rumour based on a conversation I can't clearly remember. Maybe some one else will recall and speak up if they remember. Otherwise maybe best to count it as a one of a kind.
There are definitely at least 2 45 back's though.
Yes very odd that a production figure would be one of a kind whilst there are 2 45 backs
There are definitely at least 2 45 back's though.
Yes very odd that a production figure would be one of a kind whilst there are 2 45 backs
Very interesting
I had never considered the Zuckuss on the 45 back. So was that a kind of mock up Oli?
Who'd have thunk that Zuckuss would make two of the Empire carded runs almost impossible!
Hmm I don't know about that. I'd always considered it a carded sample. I know the 45 back is an "unproduced" sample card and the figure is pre production dark grey but i seem to recall it having a production bubble and factory applied rather than glued.
FYI guys: I was the one that discovered this 47 back Zuckuss in 2009. I bought it from the original owner in Singapore.
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47B Tie-Pilot is easy to find, it's his rookie card.