I dont even know if the Outrider or Mantis would succeed since they would likely all have to be $500 each. But in dream land, they would all make for some awesome ships in TVC.
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ND-5 is easily a retool of an Assassin Droid from TCW if they ever got around to making one at all, so I don't think this is as unlikely as getting her ship would be. probably still very low on anyone's list though. I'd be surprised if they even make Kay & Nix at this point, but I suppose it's always a possibility with time. based on how long Cal hung around and that game actually dong well compared to Outlaws.
Since we only get one HasLab per year it would be a big waste for one to be the Trailblazer, better off as a made to order with 2-3 figures. But even then at the prcies they charge i don't expect it to succeed, this feels like a smaller class vessel at only $200-250. Think maybe 2-3 times the size as Grievous' ship, so that it only fits two in the cockpit and maybe a small section in the cabin where the bench is. Sort of the cheaper route they took with Solo's Falcon.
But who am I kidding, any ship is expensive these days and by the looks of it based on Vader's TIE the trailblazer would have to be same price as the Gunship.
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I remember when this exact character was called Vash, and part of the Star Trek , not SW Universe.
Pretty much a female Indiana Jones/Belloq in space, unscrupulous yet sympathetic rogue archeologist, treasure hunter, profiteer adventurer, traveling through the galaxy in pursuit of adventure and artifacts.
With unethical zeal for profit, questionable morals, who even works with the main antagonist/villain, so long as it got her somewhere.
Quotes pretty much sum her up.
At least Lucas acknowledged, drew attention to, and celebrated what he was "borrowing" from, and sensationally repurposed it into a new context, and setting.
These parasites at Disney don't have an original idea among them, and just repackage others, to sell it back to their wholly ignorant fan base.
Though I guess she has the two (what if 3PO & R2 were) evil droids, that's so original.
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Well, it ain't that difficult considering Hollywood has essentially repurposes past media since its entire existence. It's just that in the last decade or so they've become increasingly lazy about it by not being inspired by past works but instead just copy and pasting.
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...and isn't Vash loosely based on the lead character in the 1981 feature film called Sphinx? All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.
I remember when this exact character was called Vash, and part of the Star Trek , not SW Universe.
Pretty much a female Indiana Jones/Belloq in space, unscrupulous yet sympathetic rogue archeologist, treasure hunter, profiteer adventurer, traveling through the galaxy in pursuit of adventure and artifacts.
With unethical zeal for profit, questionable morals, who even works with the main antagonist/villain, so long as it got her somewhere.
Quotes pretty much sum her up.
At least Lucas acknowledged, drew attention to, and celebrated what he was "borrowing" from, and sensationally repurposed it into a new context, and setting.
These parasites at Disney don't have an original idea among them, and just repackage others, to sell it back to their wholly ignorant fan base.
Though I guess she has the two (what if 3PO & R2 were) evil droids, that's so original.
I just hope Hasbro doesn't repeat itself with another Aphra, they already perfected her - doesn't need rocker ankles or any other superfluous bull####.
^I barely have any memories of that movie. lol Raiders also came out in 1981, which is what I thought the Tomb Raider games were influenced by. I remember playing it when it first came out in '96 and thought it was lots of fun. But both Vash and Lara didn't come out till a decade after Indy. Tales of the Golden Monkey started airing in 1982 which I liked watching as a kid, and thought it too was inspired by Raiders. Actually wouldn't mind a reboot of that show.
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This, he loves using his own characters for a bigger paycheck. He's not splitting those dollars with Kieron Gillen unless he's in a hard place and/or can make another character a springboard for his own.... Thrawn for Rebels/Ahsoka anyone?
-channels my inner Gorilla Monsoon-
Tim Zahn vs. Filoni in the squared circle via Monday Night Raw! and see who comes out on top.... Filoni is quick and younger... Zahn has that old man rage/strength... it'll be rumble!
And actually there's pretty strong evidence that Aphra and Krrsantan were strongly inspired by Dark Horse "SW: Legacy" characters. Kee and Chak, to the point of them being almost visually identical:
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Does Krrsantan have a Devaronian smuggler as an honorary uncle? I thought not. Clearly Chak trumps black Santo
Something else, I often see comic panels posted with blank speech bubbles, is that a legal thing? Are the writing/lettering and drawing/coloring different in terms of fair use?
Something else, I often see comic panels posted with blank speech bubbles, is that a legal thing? Are the writing/lettering and drawing/coloring different in terms of fair use?
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Meanwhile, gen whatever:
And to tie TotGM back to SW
And before both: Spun off an ERB character Nyoka, archeologist adventurer. Part of the serials that inspired Lucas & Spielberg.
Meanwhile, gen whatever:
.Never-mind the silent cliffhanger heroines, and serials; Nyoka, The Black Whip/Lady Zorro, the popular sci-fi; Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, Barbarella, Cherry2000, TankGirl, Fantasy; Red Sonja, Taarna, Supergirl, Elektra, Laura Croft, Underworld, Adventure: The Sphinx, Cutthroat, Kiss Goodnight, Grindhouse and xploitation: Pusycat Kill, Foxy & Coffy, Lady Snowblood, the Bride, Ebony, Ivory & Jade, etc. Western: Calamity Jane, Furies, Litle Jo, Cat Ballou, Hannie Caulder, Bad Girls & Bandidas, Quick &t Dead, etc. the Victorian era fem warrior knights films: Joan Arc, Mulan, Tempesta, etc.
And of course her whole Katnip look borrowed from Modesty Blaise, all who according to her gen bubble, never existed ....
Loved TotGM, apparently it was pitched to the the studio years before Indy hit, though they didn't think it had any cache, until after Indy came out, then they dug it up for production.
And to tie TotGM back to SW
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I loved that show.
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Dunno what Jennifer Lawrence was smoking with that one. Nyoka might not be very famous but how can she claim that in a world with Amanda Ripley, Lara Croft (both Jolie films made way before HG) Red Sonja and many other female leads, or close to it in Sarah Connors case (own show even!)
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I actually liked the Trailblazer better than the Mantis. The Mantis is too long and narrow.
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Is the demand actually there for a repaint / repack though? This thread was dead since 2019, until it was recently bumped, so I don't know if people are exactly clamoring for new deco. The demand was likely met when people voted for her years ago. That's one of the constant issues with TVC, with such limited space, not everything needs to be revisited, especially if they can't sell thousands of repacks to new collectors.
Hasbro has been going back and updating the very early non-photoreal TVC 2.0 figures with photoreal updates. The R1 Cassian and ST Finn are two examples that were in early non-photoreal TVC 2.0 waves, that they did update fairly recently. So yeah, I think it would be worth it. Personally, I would say that because I'm a fan of the character. And tbh it's not like many people were really desperate for a Finn photoreal update, but Hasbro still did it. So I'd say the possibility is there, especially if Hasbro want to pad a wave with a repack, which helps balance costs of figures that require all new tooling.
agreed barbell hips and rocker ankles please. Maybe make her cap removable and a cloth goods overcoat she wears sometimes
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I know that they are doing that for some characters, but it boils down to whether they can sell a minimum production run of a repack / repaint. I'm certainly not against repacks in general, if demand exists, but could they sell another 8-10k Aphra figures with updated eyes? It's not that I dislike her, I actually bought her, just not sure she has sufficient lingering demand, especially for the same sculpt.
That' Hollywood in a nutshell, baby!
She's just too young to know of movies like Gone with the Wind or TV shows like the Big Valley. As a youngster I recall quite a few female led movies and tv shows, maybe not an exact 50/50 with their male counterparts but it was darn close. But we also have to remember that women wanted to see strong men do their thing on the screen for quite a long time, and those shows endured multi season success. I honestly don't know how some of these new shows even stay on the air, they're so poorly done. it used to be once upon a time if a show lacked in ratings it would be canceled even if it was good. Now it seems they have unlimited funding for garbage.
Hard to say, both releases were sparse compared to other releases. it would definitely have to be an Exclusive as i don't see her being popular enough as a main line release. And I think that's all they'd opt for with her is a photo real update, they would even sculpt brand new head just more lipstick. I would bother getting her because I already got two for customs long time ago. And I'd likely only buy an all new one with modern articulation and non sculpted cap simply for custom fodder, I have zero interest in the character itself. But I certainly don't want it taking up a slot from another reissue or all new slot. I'd much rather they reissue either of the two Droids.
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This was the concept for most of the original characters in Gillen's Darth Vader: Aphra (Han/Indy/Jack Sparrow), Triple Zero (Threepio), Bee Tee (Artoo), Krrsantan (Chewie), Trios (Leia).
What makes Aphra work, though (under Gillen/Spurrier; I didn't read Wong past the first few issues), is how much the universe tortures her for being a truly horrible human being (who betrays everyone), how much she knows she deserves it, and how completely unable she is to change her nature.
"You're a horrible little womp rat of a person. You cheat, you lie, you steal. Everyone you meet wants to strangle you, and they'd be right to do it."
I think the best way to go would be new legs and torso (and alternate head?) based on the Black Series figure for her black jacket outfit, then a second version with new arms, scarf, belt, and trench coat. I'd buy both, but don't expect either.
Aphra's one of the characters I'd pay thirty dollars for (maybe forty).
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wow how interesting, i did not know this! I love the three pack with Dr A and the two droids
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Vash was already a trope by the time she appeared. Nothing original about her, either. Saying Aprha ripped off Vash is a pretty absurd take since they both draw their inspiration from the same old cliches.
I remember when this exact character was called Vash, and part of the Star Trek , not SW Universe.
So Lucas gets a pass for "acknowledging" that Indiana Jones is a pastiche/homage character and talked at length about the various sources of inspiration that led to him.
However, Disney is a "parasite" because their tropey rogue archaeologist didn't get as much ink in the popular press to admit and "celebrate" their inspiration in a similar way.
Because, as we all know, the creator an incredibly obscure Star Wars comic is going to have the exact same platform as George Lucas did in the days after "Raiders" was released. Yeah, screw those Disney parasites for not "admitting" how much of a pastiche Dr. Aphra because the entire world was waiting with baited breath to hear from Aphra's creator and he instead kept his mouth shut!
Uh, what.....?!
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Hmm. I'm not sure all of this tracks. If you were a writer who created a character in a live-action TV production, you'd be entitled to a character payment every time that character appears in subsequent episodes.
However, the Animation Guild's protection of writers is pretty toothless and there are no similar rules in place for character payments. If a character makes the jump from animation to live action, I'd assume you wouldn't actually receive a payment.
As for the Aphra creator, I'm almost positive the comic creator wouldn't get anything since he's considered a work-for-hire and all the creator rights reside with Disney. Even Zahn has talked about how he doesn't receive any money for them using Thrawn in either animation or live action.
So, Filoni's use of his own character isn't a financial decision. It's just one of control. Filoni believes that he should be the first and last word in SW. If he didn't create it, he at least needs to give it his stamp of approval or be involved in a meaningful way. He's not interested in using other people's creations, only his own.
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Lucas gets a pass because he always wore his inspirations on his sleeve, making sure to acknowledge and respect what had influenced SW.
Disney steals fanart for their comics and refuses to pay royalties for novel reissues. And blatantly steals original concepts/designs while claiming they have the best artists/writers a giant megacorp can afford.
"we are not the same"
Disney steals fanart for their comics and refuses to pay royalties for novel reissues. And blatantly steals original concepts/designs while claiming they have the best artists/writers a giant megacorp can afford.
"we are not the same"
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That's debatable. Vests, goggles and wookiees aren't exactly unique concepts in SW. This could very easily be parallel development.
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Not really the point. Does Disney do shady things and treat creators poorly? Of course.
But the OPs point was Lucas is cool for acknowledging the influences on Indy, but Disney were snakes for not admitting that Doctor Freakin' Aphra was similarly inspired by other sources. Uh, the two situations aren't remotely comparable. Literally no one in the world was asking about Aphra and, even if they were, the influences were so obvious no one needed to explain anything.
Possibly... I'm not as sure Marvel/LFL/Disney contracts are as creator lucrative as others had been. I had based my assumption on what the pre-2020 DC comics payouts would be for derivative concepts/ideas brought to live action for a movie. Marvel/LFL may not be as nice about payouts I suppose. But i guarantee you're 100% right about Filoni's ego and control lol
Interesting...
Quoting myself from 7 years ago... but i came across this while sorting through BBTS's listings... anyone know if this has been sitting there as a glitch or test or something or if this is a new listing? If so... i may need to grab another.
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/116142
Quoting myself from 7 years ago... but i came across this while sorting through BBTS's listings... anyone know if this has been sitting there as a glitch or test or something or if this is a new listing? If so... i may need to grab another.
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/116142
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I took it all the way through check-out but didn't purchase it. It's cheaper on eBay though. Good-luck....
Certainly an interesting listing, not sure if it's a rerun or not. I thought BBTS has had some backstock on that for some time but it was always listed as in stock not preorder. Now I'm curious if Hasbro is reissuing this...
Frankly speaking it wasn't worth $50 to me back in 2018 so it's definitely not worth $85. At most this should be $60 at $20 each for carded figures, but as a loose 3-pk $55 is my limit. If Hasbro actually repacked the two Droids on cards in a 2-pk I'd have paid $45 for them in 23 or 24.
Frankly speaking it wasn't worth $50 to me back in 2018 so it's definitely not worth $85. At most this should be $60 at $20 each for carded figures, but as a loose 3-pk $55 is my limit. If Hasbro actually repacked the two Droids on cards in a 2-pk I'd have paid $45 for them in 23 or 24.
I'd really love the droids, especially Creepio 0-0-0
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