Death Squaddie got a new face it would seem
Death Star Trooper (boxed) - #60
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Oh, unexpected but a nice touch on their part!
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I had a feeling the boxed release would differ.
Do I really have a need for more than 2 DSTs? I find it doubtful we'll get versions that aren't ANH specific. One for each film isn't bad I suppose.
Question is though do I get 2 printed ones or stick with my 2 40th ones?
Do I really have a need for more than 2 DSTs? I find it doubtful we'll get versions that aren't ANH specific. One for each film isn't bad I suppose.
Question is though do I get 2 printed ones or stick with my 2 40th ones?
Dammit, why did they have to go and give him a new face? I already completed a squad of eight and that was enough, now I gotta pick up a two more so I can have the new face and keep the squad at an even number. I wonder if it's actually a new head sculpt entirely, or just the old head with the new face printing technique?
Well it's cool this DST will be an opener since I'm keeping my 40th set carded.
Tap'd from my 7+
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Freakin' awesome! I have one squirreled away for an eventual headswap with the RFT, but I'll pick up another for sure!
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I am upset that I have to buy him again, but excited by how good his face looks. Really is amazing.
I had no interest in the figure as a whole but that is tempting now...
Just realized, they changed the name to "Death Star Trooper" for the boxed version. He will always be Death Squad Commander to me.
Agreed! Death Squad Commander sounds more sinister
They changed "Sand People" to "Tusken Raider" for the boxed version, so this change was inevitable. Plus, this name makes it plain that he's just a regular trooper (we never see a Navy Trooper officer with rank insignia except in Rogue One - all others are just basic troopers). I would've preferred "Navy Trooper," as "Death Star Trooper" makes him more ANH/ROTJ specific, but I guess this name will do.
Also, I believe the box art is based on this dude from ROTJ (specifically the first pic, but flipped), identified in old EU sources as Jad Bean:
They changed "Sand People" to "Tusken Raider" for the boxed version, so this change was inevitable. Plus, this name makes it plain that he's just a regular trooper (we never see a Navy Trooper officer with rank insignia except in Rogue One - all others are just basic troopers). I would've preferred "Navy Trooper," as "Death Star Trooper" makes him more ANH/ROTJ specific, but I guess this name will do.
Also, I believe the box art is based on this dude from ROTJ (specifically the first pic, but flipped), identified in old EU sources as Jad Bean:
Nice catch dude, I think you're right...
Seriously, the EU gave "third trooper from the left" a name? 
And why does one of those guys have the imperial emblem on his shoulder and the other two don't?
And why does one of those guys have the imperial emblem on his shoulder and the other two don't?
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Seriously, the EU gave "third trooper from the left" a name?
Bc the one with the emblem looks the most grumpy
On a more serious note, you can't really see the shoulder of the one in the middle, but other than that, you're right
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Now I’m glad I passed on the 40th release!
Seriously, the EU gave "third trooper from the left" a name?
He's the only trooper in either scene (including the deleted scene the second pic is taken from) with a speaking role. Or a role at all. In the first scene, he's the one who tells Vader's pilot he needs the clearance code while Endicott hovers over his shoulder. In the second, deleted scene, he's in the circular control console doing the countdown as the Death Star is going to blow up Endor, and asks Jerjerrod for the order. So he's hardly an important character, but slightly more than a nobody.
Only one trooper has on the standard Navy Trooper tunic, the one who speaks. The three others (there's a third in the circular console just offscreen) are in jumpsuits. Only jumpsuited Navy Troopers have Imperial emblems on their shoulders; tunicked ones do not and never have, which incidentally makes this figure and the 40th one inaccurate.
Some more pics.
Here can be seen the seated troopers in jumpsuits next to "Jad Bean," and you can see both have the Imperial logo while he doesn't:
Also note the blaster rifles hanging on the far wall, for in case the room is breached (the deleted scene reveals this is actually the main control room, not some random gantry office overlooking the hangar as the final cut implies). They appear to be the same model of rifle that Hoth Rebel Troopers are often equipped with, more evidence of Imperial and Rebel weaponry overlapping.
The aforementioned third jumpsuited trooper (fourth overall), currently operating the central command console, which "Bean" later takes control of in the deleted scene:
More pics of the single tunicked trooper in the command console from the cut scene, such as him and Jerjerrod exchanging meaningful looks after Palpatine gives them their marching orders: destroy Endor if the Rebels begin winning.
Talking to Endicott:
And asking Jerjerrod for the final order:
Here can be seen the seated troopers in jumpsuits next to "Jad Bean," and you can see both have the Imperial logo while he doesn't:
Also note the blaster rifles hanging on the far wall, for in case the room is breached (the deleted scene reveals this is actually the main control room, not some random gantry office overlooking the hangar as the final cut implies). They appear to be the same model of rifle that Hoth Rebel Troopers are often equipped with, more evidence of Imperial and Rebel weaponry overlapping.
The aforementioned third jumpsuited trooper (fourth overall), currently operating the central command console, which "Bean" later takes control of in the deleted scene:
More pics of the single tunicked trooper in the command console from the cut scene, such as him and Jerjerrod exchanging meaningful looks after Palpatine gives them their marching orders: destroy Endor if the Rebels begin winning.
Talking to Endicott:
And asking Jerjerrod for the final order:
Huh. Well, you learn something new every day I didn't even notice that the other two were wearing jumpsuits vs the tunic. I don't see the blasters you are talking about. And who is Endicott?
I didn't even notice that the other two were wearing jumpsuits vs the tunic. I don't see the blasters you are talking about. And who is Endicott?
Endicott is (or was, depending on if his name still applies since the reboot) the blonde officer who says "Inform the Commander that Lord Vader's shuttle has arrived."
He can be seen with Jerjerrod during the space battle later:
In which, oddly, the command console is occupied by a jumpsuited trooper, creating a continuity error (or it would if the deleted scene weren't deleted).
And talking to Jerjerrod about what to do about the Emperor's orders in the deleted scene:
Dang, good eye! I must have stared at that picture for 1/2 an hour and couldn't see them. Thanks for all the info.
Very informative thread, and since I only bought two 40th figs, one to save, one to open, I would definitely like to get at least one of the boxed new face paint figs.
Wow Kooshmeister! Grand Moff indeed!!
You should be working at Lucasfilm mate : )
Impressive stuff!
You should be working at Lucasfilm mate : )
Impressive stuff!
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Nice details and catch, Kooshmeister, I never noticed the difference myself
Nice details and catch, Kooshmeister, I never noticed the difference myself
Eh, everyone has their favorite Imperial trooper type and these guys are mine, so pretty much anything involving them immediately arrests my attention. I've recently concluded they come in four types:
1. Navy Troopers - Your basic trooper serving aboard Star Destroyers and at Imperial installations connected to the Imperial starfleet. The Imperial Navy's answer to Stormtroopers.
2. Navy Trooper Specialists - Troopers with additional specialized training in computers and who operate data consoles and such in command centers. In ANH, these guys are the gray-suited gents. These guys are the so-called "Death Squad Commanders." The reason we see ordinary troopers in their place in ROTJ is (IMO) because in ROTJ, the second Death Star was only half-finished and so regular troopers like "Jad Bean" had to fill in. As for RO, where we also see what appear to be ordinary, black-suited troopers (particularly a guy the RO Visual Guide identifies as Ansin Thobel), is again probably because the battle station was on its shakedown cruise and the specialists hadn't arrived yet.
3. Navy Trooper Technicians - Mechanical maintenance, comm specialists, data entry, etc., basically console jockeys, like the specialists, except less, well, specialized. These are the jumpsuited dudes.
4. Navy Trooper Officers - AFAIK we've only seen one, the shield gate officer in RO. They're ranked Navy Troopers (not enlisted or specialized) and command the regular troops. Shann Childsen in ANH may be a Navy Trooper officer, just with his helmet off and comfier cap on. Ditto Endicott and most (or many) of the other black-uniformed officers in in ROTJ. Provided they don't have army ranks (Dyer) and aren't seen leading Stormtroopers (Renz).
And finally we have Death Star Troopers, a supposedly elite subset of the regular Navy Troopers hand-picked to serve on either Death Star and its attendant installations like the shield generator bunker. Apart from the name, though, and minor differences in the cut of the tunics between films, they function like regular Navy Troopers: guard duty, repelling assault, manning consoles, etc., but like most "elite" trooper types (Death Troopers, I'm looking at you!), they aren't better than their regular Navy Trooper cousins and die in droves like chumps like any other standard Imperial trooper.
But I like their ubiquity (they're almost as common as Stormtroopers), the fact they're one of the only trooper types with visible faces, which immediately makes them stand out from the crowd, and, of course, those big, stupid helmets. :grin:
Rock on, Imperial Navy Death Star Squad Commanders... rock on. B)
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Aren't the troopers like this figure called Death Star Troopers and their subordinates who wear jumpsuits called Imperial Navy Troopers?
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Ignore that, lol. I missed Kooshmeister's epic post.
No comparison, the new face is miles better.
It makes them look like two completely different people. I love it.
^ Your gonna need a new profile pic ; )
Looks great!
Looks great!
Yeah, I def gotta get a redbox version!
Bah! Plain-faced Death Squad Commander forever!!! :awesome:
I wish I would have waited and not got the 40th version. The pics of this new one literally started showing up the week I caved and bought the one that'd been hanging at TRU!
I plan on using the new one to be the squad leader for my three more plain-faced ones.
"This man is clearly born to be a leader, look how much better looking he is than the rest of the troops"
The OLD DST:
he's got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes.
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he's got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes.
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