Dark Trooper Mini Bust - Interest Poll & Thread

What are your thoughts on Gentle Giant producing one or more Dark Trooper Mini Busts?


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Chris Wyman

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One of the characters I've always wanted to see in Mini Bust form is the Dark Trooper from the 1995 video game Star Wars: Dark Forces. I absolutely loved the game and remember very vividly playing through the various levels and having my heart rate soar when a Dark Trooper would come running (or flying) at you from out of nowhere. In the game, there were different phases of the Dark Troopers that you would encounter.


Star Wars: Dark Forces - 1995


Star Wars: Dark Forces Video Game - 1995


Star Wars: Dark Forces Video Game - 1995

Hasbro got the right idea when they released the most daunting version, the Phase III Dark Trooper, in 1998 as part of their Expanded Universe action figure line.


Star Wars: Dark Forces Dark Trooper - General Mohc Action Figure - Hasbro Expanded Universe Line - 1998

Since then, Gentle Giant has actually done three of the other characters from that same line which all turned out fantastic:


Mara Jade Mini Bust - 2006 GenCon Exclusive


Grand Admiral Thrawn Mini Bust - 2014


Spacetrooper Mini Bust - 2018 PGM Exclusive (pending)

Now, I certainly think there's a market for the Dark Trooper to be done in Mini Bust form...possibly even a 3-pack of sorts to capture the different phases. It's just a matter of convincing Gentle Giant Ltd. & Disney of that. I'm curious to know what other collectors think. Be sure to vote in the poll so we can get a good gauge, and who knows...perhaps we could see a 1/6 scale Mini Bust version on collector's shelves around the world. Stranger things have happened!

Here's some examples of what these things really look like and why I think they'd make some killer Mini Busts.


Phase I, II & III Dark Troopers


Phase Zero Dark Trooper


Star Wars Legacy Collection - Build-A-Droid Phase III Dark Trooper


Kenner/Hasbro Dark Troopers
 

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I would absolutely be in for something like this. Video games are another area of fandom that haven't been represented very robustly by GG. There are still several characters from The Force Unleashed that I'd love to see made.
 

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Not really interested in it, for no other reason it would be outside of my collecting focus. That said, it is an appealing sculpt nonetheless. Gee! I remember back in the day when I collected action figures, loving having found this character. It was so massive and rather impressive. Not a very easy figure to find at stores back in those days.
 

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I’d totally be in. Loved the video game back in the day and the action figure was great. That said unless something has changed since the Disney acquisition it’s no longer considered canon and therefore off limits.
 
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I've never considered the Thrawn or Mara Jade to be part of some Hasbro EU lineup, but instead as being part of the Heir to the Empire EU stuff...

With that in mind, I'd pass on a Dark Trooper - but make a Jorus C'baoth and I'm all in.
 

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I've never considered the Thrawn or Mara Jade to be part of some Hasbro EU lineup, but instead as being part of the Heir to the Empire EU stuff...

With that in mind, I'd pass on a Dark Trooper - but make a Jorus C'baoth and I'm all in.
Yeah , I’d get a Jorus C’boath for sure ! Outbound flight was a great read !



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I've never considered the Thrawn or Mara Jade to be part of some Hasbro EU lineup, but instead as being part of the Heir to the Empire EU stuff...
This is true. My point was that the characters, which were all part of a group that got the action figure treatment, were made into Mini Bust form and it would be cool to see more of those characters on the higher-end side of collecting.
 

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I never played the first Dark Forces but I always liked the look of the Darktrooper so I would be interested. But if I had an option to pick any character from the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games, I’d want Kyle Katarn from Dark Forces 2 above all else.
 

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I need this in my life, LOL!
That makes two of us, Daniel. Unfortunately, the poll isn't showing in our favor. It's unfortunate that people vote no on something they likely just have no clue about. There's a lot of older adult collectors out there, of course, but a lot of the younger kids collecting these days may have never even heard of Star Wars: Dark Forces, so they never experienced the game and a character from that game would mean nothing to them. If polled against Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker or even Kylo Ren, they'd likely choose any of those guys over a Dark Trooper.

I think what would impress me the most about a Dark Trooper Mini Bust would be the immense size it would have to be in the 1/6 scale. Just imagine something along the lines of the Republic Commando Mini Busts.

I also think once people saw one, they'd feel a lot differently about not wanting it.
 

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Yes.

Feel like a lot of people forget he was in the classic Battlefront too, one of the more overpowered units in that game lol. Would be a unique looking bust and would make that Empire shelf pop.

Saying that, there are still a lot of more characters out there that need treatment before him.
 

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Hate the design, don't want the bust. Hard pass on the fatrooper.
 

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Hate the design, don't want the bust. Hard pass on the fatrooper.
Well... in the Trooper’s defense he’s not fat. In fact he’s not even a HE but an IT as the first few phases were actually droids. I believe the last model was actually an exo-suit though.
 

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I think these EU/video game characters would make good exclusives of some sort. Maybe a Celebration exclusive, as it doesn't seem like GG is going to step away from the McQ stuff for SDCC. I'd also be very open to some sort of crowdfunding through GG in order to get some of these more niche characters made. I think all phases of the Darktrooper would look quite striking.
 

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Thankfully, DST has shown some signs of being more open minded than the "OT only" or "movie only" mindset that seems to pervade these boards. That said, I'm not holding my breath for any EU or video game additions to the mini bust line.

But if they did produce one, it would sell well. The EU stuff most always does...and then it becomes rather sought after on the secondary market.
 

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Thankfully, DST has shown some signs of being more open minded than the "OT only" or "movie only" mindset that seems to pervade these boards.
So in your eyes people that prefer the OT or any other movie over what you like are not "open minded"? That's insulting to people exercising their own right to like what they like, what they feel best describes their taste. You know, this name tagging going on in our society all is doing is getting us more apart. This totalitarian group thinking ideology is purely destructive for any group or community. Just because some of us choose something you do not agree with or like something you don't, that does not make us 'close minded', which is what you are implying with your comment. Pervade? No, sir. It is just an opinion shared by a large group, and that's all. If you don't like what you see in these boards then move on to a board where you can always be pleased, and find your 'safe space' there. You are, once again, insulting members here with your divisive comments. This is not the first time you indirectly attack other members for choosing what they like. And if someone needs to be open minded, that should be you.
 
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So in your eyes people that prefer the OT or any other movie over what you like are not "open minded"? That's insulting to people exercising their own right to like what they like, what they feel best describes their taste. You know, this name tagging going on in our society all is doing is getting us more apart. This totalitarian group thinking ideology is purely destructive for any group or community. Just because some of us choose something you do not agree with or like something you don't, that does not make us 'close minded', which is what you are implying with your comment. Pervade? No, sir. It is just an opinion shared by a large group, and that's all. If you don't like what you see in these boards then move on to a board where you can always be pleased, and find your 'safe space' there. You are, once again, insulting members here with your divisive comments. This is not the first time you indirectly attack other members for choosing what they like. And if someone needs to be open minded, that should be you.
I don't have any problem with people that prefer the OT, or just the movies, or whatever. People are certainly free to like what they like, and I actually support busts being made from all sources of material - PT, OT, ST, EU, Animated, Comics, Video games, etc. I want there to be room at the table for all of it. So, perhaps, instead of "open minded" I should have used the word "inclusive," because that's what I'm looking for. Apparently, I equate inclusion and open mindedness in my own head...I'll have to reflect on that. Certainly, I did not mean to insult anyone around here, and if my comment did truly insult, I apologize for that.

As for the rest of your post, I am underwhelmed. I know you don't care for me; that's been very clear in other posts you've directed at me. And I'm okay not being liked; I don't have to be liked by everyone. Over the past several months I have pretty strongly advocated for animated characters to get the mini bust treatment. I think that's probably threatening to some people who would prefer the status quo, and it's been interesting to experience the pushback. I believe that support for EU, video game or comic based characters will receive similar pushback. But I guess, maybe that's the nature of things when you're advocating for change. If all I posted was "Rah, rah, OT" and maybe an occasional "Rah, rah, PT," then probably no one would notice my posts very much, and everyone would like me. But the OT has enough cheerleaders around here, and so I direct my energies into advocating for source material that has largely been neglected, and really shouldn't be. And in doing so, I go against the grain of these forums. That's upsetting to some people. Some people don't like me. I'm a big boy, and I can take it, and to me it is totally worth it if it gets GG to even think about trying something different.
 

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I liked the game, I liked the action figure and even when they showed up in Force Unleashed games as Purge troopers. I would have to see the bust before weighing in. I do love troopers. The only thing I will say is there was a Spacetrooper in the original SW, albeit briefly when the Falcon comes in on the tractor beam, which is why buying that was an instant buy for me. If it ever shows up...
 

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I don't have any problem with people that prefer the OT, or just the movies, or whatever. People are certainly free to like what they like, and I actually support busts being made from all sources of material - PT, OT, ST, EU, Animated, Comics, Video games, etc. I want there to be room at the table for all of it. So, perhaps, instead of "open minded" I should have used the word "inclusive," because that's what I'm looking for. Apparently, I equate inclusion and open mindedness in my own head...I'll have to reflect on that. Certainly, I did not mean to insult anyone around here, and if my comment did truly insult, I apologize for that.

As for the rest of your post, I am underwhelmed. I know you don't care for me; that's been very clear in other posts you've directed at me. And I'm okay not being liked; I don't have to be liked by everyone. Over the past several months I have pretty strongly advocated for animated characters to get the mini bust treatment. I think that's probably threatening to some people who would prefer the status quo, and it's been interesting to experience the pushback. I believe that support for EU, video game or comic based characters will receive similar pushback. But I guess, maybe that's the nature of things when you're advocating for change. If all I posted was "Rah, rah, OT" and maybe an occasional "Rah, rah, PT," then probably no one would notice my posts very much, and everyone would like me. But the OT has enough cheerleaders around here, and so I direct my energies into advocating for source material that has largely been neglected, and really shouldn't be. And in doing so, I go against the grain of these forums. That's upsetting to some people. Some people don't like me. I'm a big boy, and I can take it, and to me it is totally worth it if it gets GG to even think about trying something different.
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. It's all paint from the same brush. You know exactly what you meant in your first comment. And my reaction to what you wrote is not about caring for you, liking you or not. Please no victimization card. It's about noticing every chance you get you have a tendency to single out people that do not agree with your preferences. Even in your reply highlighted above (to help read between the lines), you chose to direct your cryptic critique to OT collectors in a cynical way, and played the victim card. I'm expecting at some point to hear the forums suffer from some kind of phobia or being discriminating. You make yourself sound like some underground politician looking for some sort of social justice. But, perhaps companies produce what they produce based on their own ideas of what should be made. Perhaps people like what they like based on their own preferences and desires. Not every company has to cover or service all aspects of a whole. There is free will to be exercised in a free society, and not everyone is close minded because they like what you don't like. Not everyone feels or thinks the same way, and companies/people shouldn't be subjected to cryptic criticism just because they don't make or like something that is not exactly your cup of tea. You are patronizing DST's actions with your own mind set, and at the same time you are singling out people that prefer one Trilogy or film with your comments. And this is coming from me, someone that collects from all Trilogies. I'm going to leave it at that. I do not want to derail Chris' thread any further, it's not fair to him, but think before you post and keep in mind we are not clones of a same way of thinking.

To Chris and the Poll he has create:

Chris I do not like the way the Dark Trooper looks. I never played the game and have no interest in video games. I can understand there are people that like it, but to me it isn't attractive and I can't advocate for something that is not pleasing to me. That's all. If it gets made, I'll be fine with it, but I won't think any less of anyone else that chooses to like it. If DST chooses to go in that direction, so be it. If it doesn't it'd be just the same.
 
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20 days in and it looks like 56.76% would be in for a Dark Trooper Mini Bust with 43.25% showing no interest. With a lower edition size, I think this would sell extremely well, especially to the 30-55 year old collecting crowd.
 

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While it does look cool-ish I went ahead & voted ‘No Interest” as it’s not exactly in my collecting purview. Personally, I would like to see some of the more main-stream busts that were never made, like a Ki-Adi-Mundi, or Dooku with arms & a saber, come to fruition, over more obscure characters. That’s just me though & I know not everyone agrees, & that’s fine. To each their own.
 
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There's a company called Limited Run Games and they are going back and producing old video games in new Limited Edition packaging with exclusive things like posters, coins, art cards, pins, trading cards, USB Drives, etc. Certain games are done for specific platforms, but the classic PC ones seem to be the most popular. A while back, they released two different versions of Star Wars: Dark Forces & Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II, which both sold out super fast showing just how popular these old games really are. I couldn't help but think how well Mini Busts would do if coupled with something like this. Collectors would buy it all.

Tomorrow, they are releasing Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast & Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy and I expect them to be very popular again. It's a shame this wasn't thought of a while back with enough time for Gentle Giant Ltd. to partner with them on the project.
 

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