Club 75192 - Limited Edition VIP Card

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Across the web, the reporting on this VIP Black Card promotion for those who purchased the 75192 Millennium Falcon in 2017 seemed to have been spotty and widely inaccurate, in the end.

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My (U.S.-based) experience was that:

The first notification of any kind about this promotion came in the form of an e-mail from LEGO on Thursday May 3rd at around 1PM (not much notice, imo). The subject line referred to this as "your latest VIP Black Card offer", which I find weak. This is the "latest" in a series of what? Two, as I recall? And one of those was just a purchasing window of double points in February. We're halfway through this extravaganza and it's amounted to nearly nothing at all.

The email announced the "free Y-Wing limited edition Blue Print", which I could get with a Star Wars themed purchase over $35. And the message provided a personally unique 10-digit code that it instructed I would use at checkout, with online or in-store.

No mention was made anywhere about the size of the Blue Print. It ended up being 8.5"x11".

The smaller details get muddier. The fine print of the email states the offer is valid for purchases in-store/online/by phone "from 04/05/2018 to 07/05/2018". This is troublesome in the U.S., where the common date format here leads one to believe that they are meaning April 5th through July 5th. I'm guessing they really mean May 4th through May 7th. But no one here would commonly think of that, when reading this date in an email from a large company doing business in the U.S.. When I asked about it during my in-store purchase, the employee looked it up in the company documentation they were provided and showed it to me. And that sheet clearly read that the promotion ended May 6th. So who's to say what the "07/05/2018" in the e-mail was about? Was the author thinking of midnight on May 7th as some deadline? The wording does not accomplish that. The wording used would mean that May 7th was completely included. I'd be curious what the cases ends up being on the ground. But that raises the next issue of remaining quantity.

Large U.S. LEGO stores like the flagship stores in New York and other major cities got a grand total of 5 Falcons each in September upon launch. Other lesser stores got 2. I can imagine that number could have varied a bit at out-of-the-way stores (to the extent that LEGO has any that are much out-of-the-way in the U.S.). In November 2017, there was a second quantity of Falcons that came in to fulfill waitlists before becoming available to walk-in customers. That quantity was rather small as well, but more than 5 in most locations. There was very little, if any stock for walk-ins at most locations at that point for the remainder of 2017. So, even accounting for those who got a Falcon online, I was very surprised to see what a huge stack of these Y-Wing prints was sitting behind the counter at my local store this weekend. If the print was to be available on the spot in stores (without being mailed afterwards) to Black Card holders, there didn't seem to be any way to control who might walk in to any LEGO store location expecting a poster. So, LEGO clearly made an amply large quantity of them and slathered each store with a what seemed to be easily 100 or more in plain view (with who knows how many more out of sight).

So, it seems obvious that there will be tons of leftovers of these. What's going to happen to those? Will they really be returned to corporate and/or destroyed. I highly doubt that. I was left feeling like they will make their way out, without any consistency as to who/how/when/why, and that the exclusivity of this tiny promo will be pointless. The similar colorful promo prints for the Falcon itself were handed out freely long after the Force Friday II promotion ended, just for the asking at more than one store I visited last fall. And it's very common for old promos to continue to bleed out until the stock is exhausted. In fact, I was given another Darth Vader Pod from April 2018 with my May 4th purchase of over $75, thrown into the bag along with my BB-8 and the Y-Wing print (if the fine print on that email is read strictly, one might wonder if the poster was even to be combined with these other fgwp's [free gift with purchase] at all). It's great to let people have those things if there are enough to go around. But in the case of the Y-Wing print, it would seem to be awkward and poor either way it's handled. It would feel ugly to destroy or withhold the remaining prints. But allowing them to be obtained by non-Black Card holders just further undermines the already nearly valueless incentive that the Black Card has been.

Oh, and btw, the e-mail notified all Black Card members that they were automatically entered into a raffle for an 18k gold R2-D2 minifigure. Again, weak to the point of nonexistent as a measurable benefit for having the Black Card membership.

I'm wondering what other people found in their travels. Did your store seem to have lots of the Y-Wing prints lying around? Did the store have anything to say about what might happen to the leftovers? Did other stores have Vader pods or older items that got tossed into May the 4th purchases? Were the terms of this offer different around the world? Beforehand, I saw numerous reports stating the the print was going to be free with ANY Star Wars purchase, without a minimum. That certainly wasn't the case for me. Was that totally erroneous reporting, or was there anywhere where that was the case?
 
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I'm not a black card holder.

This weekend at a Lego store an employee told me, not knowing if I am a black card holder or not, that the Y-Wing poster was free with any Star Wars purchase over $35. Maybe he was just trying to close the deal seeing that I was checking out the Snowspeeder.
 
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Did you end up making a purchase and getting the poster? Even if he wanted to give it to you, the system was supposed to require him to scan it (it has no bar code on it, but they were supposed to scan a bar code in the paperwork instructions they were provided for the weekend), and your VIP card, and it was supposed to not allow it. He'd have to have just slipped in into your bag undocumented, or otherwise override things during checkout.
 
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I'm only a lowly peasant regular VIP member so I wasn't able to get the blueprint on May 4th. I asked the store manager what I needed to do to get one and she said they had very limited quantities but if there were any left on Sunday May 6 that I could get one, just call towards the end of the day. There were a few left and true to her word I got one after making a $35 ore more purchase (sandspeeder, it was $39.99 CAD).

They made a decent amount off of me on May 4th (lego shop at home order), so between that and the sandspeeder I think it was a fair deal.
 
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It's certainly a proper value in that case, and great for people to get the thing, especially if it's some little print that's just sitting there, going to waste. But after all the bragging about the specialness of the Black Card VIP perks that LEGO tried to make seem would be numerous throughout 2018, it's a pretty poor showing for it to have amounted to something this small that non-Black Card members probably managed to get rather easily, just for asking. These will likely continue to leak out at stores for some time. Non Black Card members should actually make a point to ask for them now, before they end up forgotten at the bottom a drawer at the counter, or back on the store managers' desks in back.
 
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Does the black card have meaning outside of the SW in LEGO-world? Maybe it has more value if you buy multiple lines.
 
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I'm not sure I understand this question. The Black Card is Star Wars-specific, and relates only to Star Wars LEGO stuff during 2018. It was issued to those who purchased the 75192 Falcon by 12/31/17, and has a graphic of a Millennium Falcon on the physical card, aiming to the card itself interesting to Star Wars LEGO collectors, I suppose (but it also bears the member's name, so I can't see ever letting mine go to anyone else). It is not relevant to anything non-Star Wars.
 
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These sell for around $150 on the secondary market. It'll be interesting to see if the value drops in 2019 once the perceived benefits are gone.
 
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I'm not sure I understand this question. The Black Card is Star Wars-specific, and relates only to Star Wars LEGO stuff during 2018. It was issued to those who purchased the 75192 Falcon by 12/31/17, and has a graphic of a Millennium Falcon on the physical card, aiming to the card itself interesting to Star Wars LEGO collectors, I suppose (but it also bears the member's name, so I can't see ever letting mine go to anyone else). It is not relevant to anything non-Star Wars.
Thanks, that makes sense. I had found a red VIP card while packing and was trying to figure out the difference.
 
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These sell for around $150 on the secondary market. It'll be interesting to see if the value drops in 2019 once the perceived benefits are gone.

Anyone who qualified for one and has it now, and who would be the type to consider selling it, probably also knows enough to know that they do not need to hang on to the physical card to continue to get the benefits. LEGO always has said so in numerous places (mainly to assuage the irritation of those who didn't receive their cards for many months and who seemed worried about getting the "benefits", which have been almost worthless now, with half the year already gone by). I think the thing that stops people from selling the card most is the name being on it. And I believe LEGO did that fully with the intention of discouraging resale of the card, even just as a collectible.

I don't think that anyone looking to buy one on the secondary market as a collectible has the misunderstanding that buying it that way will give them access to the benefits of having the card as its primary account holder. And the completed ebay listings currently visible seem to all say that rather boldly and clearly. And they also seem to have all sold for more like $100 or less on ebay, as the actual prices were best offers that were accepted and not made visible by ebay. So, there doesn't seem like there will be a reason for the value to go up or down simply based on the benefits ending at the end of 2018. The cards could just as easily become more valuable by then, just for becoming scarce.

The whole thing has been such a total turkey so far. And I don't see it yielding any surprise improvements. LEGO seems to be asleep at the wheel at best with Star Wars nowadays.
 
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There's a new promotion starting on December 7th - keep an eye on Rebelscum.com.
 
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There is a little display stand build that holds the card and a minifig with the falcon printed on the torso.
 
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Ya, that's been floating around for awhile. I don't think it's going to be anything more exciting.
 
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The hands are black.

Youre talking about the yellow gloves ;)
 
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Got my email, looks like to get it you have to use the provided code with a with a qualifying starwars lego purchase.

*And, it appears it's one time use. *
 
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Got mine this morning. It wasn't working for US customers when it went live, but the set finally started getting added with the code around 9:30am EST.
 
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Could someone forward me the email please? I'd like to get it up on the front page (with the code redacted).
 
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I just read Jeremy's article and decided to go on eBay and see if any were actually selling. Sure enough 6 have sold for over a 100 bucks and one for 195. HOLY CRAP
 
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They were selling on shop at home for 8.99 for a bit before it was taken down. (with a limit of 99)
 
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Ya, the point was giving a retail value in comparison to the ebay prices that were mentioned in the post above that I was responding to.
This black card has turned out to be pointless.
 
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Ya, the point was giving a retail value in comparison to the ebay prices that were mentioned in the post above that I was responding to.
This black card has turned out to be pointless.

Agreed, what a wasted promotion to sell Falcons.
 
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I think that this article today is incorrect:

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/LEGO_Last_Day_Of_VIP_Holder_Promotion_182802.asp

I think that those who got emailed their codes and are thus indeed eligible, have another month to order this. The "boiler plate" language at the bottom of the email received by me and a handful of others I know (who were all in-person purchasers of the Falcon at LEGO retail stores in the U.S., both on the day of release and during that period after Black Friday in 2017 when they fulfilled individually formed waiting lists at each store) clearly states that the "offer is valid ... from 12/07/2018 to 01/31/2019, or while stocks last." So, while they could run out of the sets because of those other release errors described in the article, the deadline to attempt an order seems (at least for those whose emails say so) to be still a full month away.
 
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So, what's your point? Do we know if LEGO would actually refuse to take an order from someone holding their code in January or not? Looks like tomorrow would be the last chance to get a firm answer from someone at LEGO, if a Black Card VIP is for some reason insisting on not ordering until January. But it would seem pretty nasty of LEGO to refuse to honor the offer for someone holding an email that promises January, unless they're truly totally out of the set. Just yet another botched aspect of a year of botching this promotion.

Also, I just logged onto the site with my VIP id, and the offer terms under the Black Card section say 31/01/2019 right now. So, perhaps there is either a region difference, or truly different dates for individual members. Nothing is ever clear and correct with LEGO nowadays, it seems. My original point was that the article on Rebelscum isn't really correct, it seems. It doesn't make note of this discrepancy and declares tomorrow as the last day as if it's conclusive, which it's not.
 
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My point is, going on the information I had at the time I posted the first and lastest notice concerning the VIP Holder, the information was correct.

Your point seems to be that the information coming from LEGO isn't syncing up, and that is correct too.

Feel free to contact LEGO to confirm and share the news. I've reached out via the ambassador network but most of the staff are on holiday.
 
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