Big Slave I w/Han Solo in Carbonite

[Since1978]

So now that you've seen the Big Slave I - in the CW/PT colors, what do you think of the prospects of a TESB version at some point in the not so distant future in the Vintage collection?!

Would be cool to see it in the same format as the TRU ultimate battle pack, with Boba, Han in Carbonite, a couple of Bespin Guards and maybe a Stormtrooper.

You know that it's coming, it's just a question of when!

 

[Glitch]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculation

I think I may be in the minority here, but I actually like it. For some reason, I just couldn't get too excited about the possibility of the Slave 1 getting the FULL big treatment. In fact, I'm surprised we even got this. I really like the ship, but it just wasn't prominent in the action like the Falcon, AT-AT or even the Sail Barge....DAMN YOU, HASBRO!!!

I think they realized there were only two possible repaints of this thing and people weren't going to buy fleets of them, so they just couldn't afford to go too crazy with the scale. Plus, as I said, it just wasn't a prominent enough as an action piece to really go all out with it. We BARELY even saw the interior of this thing.

I also think they wanted to (and wisely so) keep it in relative scale to the BMF. The Falcon is big, but still nit big enough, so, in my opinion, I'm OK with the scale on this one. I'd still love to see a wide shot of the full ship with an average size figure standing next to it.

However, not having the loading ramp that actually enters the ship is a HUGE gaff. How do they enter the ship? Through a big hole on the side? It would have been totally possible if they could have found a way to swing that head bonking panel up when the ramp is down.

Also, REALLY? Making this new tool as part of an Ultimate Battle Pack WITH another (older) ship and a bunch of figures, AND making it a store exclusive - a Toys R Us exclusive, no less? If the simple TIE Interceptor and Republic Gunship are any indication, this thing is going to be well over $100.

I can already see it, "Well the Clone Wars Slave 1 didn't move as quickly as expected at retail, so we have no plans to release an ESB Slave 1 for some time."

Ugh........

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[EmperorPalps]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Might as well import my thoughts from the other thread....

So let me get this straight: They go to the trouble of sculpting an all new, larger Slave I, and they don't bother to include a ramp that enters the ship?! Gee, that was only a function of the ship that was shown in both ESB and AOTC. Now we have a ramp that leads nowhere. It now serves as a slide for that dumb looking escape pod. Dumbfounding.

This forum doesn't have a font large enough for me to convey just how big of a FAIL this is. Probably the biggest fail out of DePriest's long history of fails. Will definitely be passing when the inevitable ESB repaint comes out.

 

[Big_Friggin__Dar]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I hate to pile on this, but seriously - THIS is the BIG Slave 1 resculpt? If this is as good as its going to get I will probably end up getting an ESB repaint but it won't be an immed concern. Epic fail indeed as far as my expectations.

 

[Darth_Anton]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I'll certainly be waiting for an OT version of this new mold. Long story short though, I want an OT version. Even if it doesn't have cool play features, it's still larger.

 

[royalguard96]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

This looks to me like a repeat of the pattern we saw with the Rancor.

You have a large-sized, well-admired item from the OT, badly in need of a modern re-tool. This item exists in both the PT and EU.

So what does Hasbro do? Unveil it in its non-OT version first.

Here's my look into the crystal ball regarding a future ESB version of Slave I:

Let's say this UBP (two ships, four figures) costs $75 at retail. Purely a guess on my part. In the fall of 2011, this mold will return, with ESB coloring. It will have one figure pack-in (maybe the new TVC Boba Fett), and will cost.....




Wait for it......




$75.

For someone who has collected, and observed Hasbro's practices over the past 15 years, I would be shocked if this scenario didn't play out.

 

[Spookymufu]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I would have liked one closer to proper scale, in the ESB colors, a nice cargo hold, ramp, functioning door and maybe the same weapons as the OTC.......I do like this cockpit better tho, it looks a lot like my OTC's cockpit...this should have been big enough for Boba Fett to actually "walk" up the ramp and get into the ship through the DOOR!....

 

[Cloned_By_Hasbro]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Right - A ramp, leading up to a functional & screen accurate entryway was the one feature that I was hoping for on this ship. Oh well - guess Hasbro didn't think this vehicle was popular/iconic/important enough to warrant a large enough scale to allow for that feature.
If it's of any assistance, here are some size comparison mock ups between this new version and the previous (OTC Target exclusive) version, using the in-shot figures as referene along with the (presumably) accurate measurements of 18" (for the new Slave I) VS. 15" (for the old SAGA/OTC Slave I).

 

[Deak_Starkiller]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculation

Frankly, the figure add-ons for an ESB UBP are boring at this point. Just the vehicle w/Boba is OK for me now, but 'ya know Hasbro.

 

[Spookymufu]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculation

Frankly, the figure add-ons for an ESB UBP are boring at this point. Just the vehicle w/Boba is OK for me now, but 'ya know Hasbro.

the only pack in an ESB version needs is a Han in Carbonite, the market is flooded with Boba's

 

[JohnSilence]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculation

i want an updated Slave 1 but nowadays i only really go for the accurately scaled ships like some of the fighters & speeders.

wouldn't have room for so many ships anyway if i didn't stick to those

 

[Deak_Starkiller]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculation

The way I see it, Boba is pretty much a default figure at this point. However, I'd like to see a 'levatated' Carbonite Han that is magnetized along the bottom with a floor accessory of opposing polarity to provide the levatation effect. A clear stand-piece would be a cost-effective alternative but somewhat visually distracting.

 

[Droidworld]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Might as well import my thoughts from the other thread....

So let me get this straight: They go to the trouble of sculpting an all new, larger Slave I, and they don't bother to include a ramp that enters the ship?! Gee, that was only a function of the ship that was shown in both ESB and AOTC. Now we have a ramp that leads nowhere. It now serves as a slide for that dumb looking escape pod. Dumbfounding.

This forum doesn't have a font large enough for me to convey just how big of a FAIL this is. Probably the biggest fail out of DePriest's long history of fails. Will definitely be passing when the inevitable ESB repaint comes out.

Because you know the ESB repaint, with corrected ramp and entrance in the back is YEARS away. They will milk this stupid mold for at least four or five years before correcting it to be accurate for an ESB and AOTC version! Passing on the ESB repaint will be wise.

 

[keenanb]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I don't quite get why they dont have a swing up plate for the top of the ramp area. Other than that I like it. I will wait for the OT color scheme I think but I might grab this one. Its cool enough. I wonder what other features it has.

 

[Cloned_By_Hasbro]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Because you know the ESB repaint, with corrected ramp and entrance in the back is YEARS away. They will milk this stupid mold for at least four or five years before correcting it to be accurate for an ESB and AOTC version! Passing on the ESB repaint will be wise.

Actually, I wouldn't count on seeing any significant upgrades to this vehicle ever again. I think what we're seeing here is as good as it's gonna get in terms of improved scale.

- The last upgrade to the Slave I coincided with it's appearance in Attack of The Clones.
- Now, this upgrade coincides with it's appearance in The Clone Wars (and, if Hasbro releases a re-paint quick enough, then that re-paint would somewhat coincide with ESB's 30th).

But unless some serious future media attention puts the Slave I in a larger spot light, then I think a larger toy is, unfortunately, very unlikely.
Supposedly, there's that live action TV series that will one day see the light of production, and supposedly Boba Fett will play some role in at least some of its episodes. Maybe some hope for a better Slave 1 toy can be placed in the TV series, but my bet is that Hasbro won't go through the trouble of tooling anything new for any future releases, other than slight modifications to this CW version.

 

[Luciano]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Reposting. 18.5" long (versus the previous 15" length). I'm pleased with the paint apps and overall detailing and sculpt.

The addition of the prisoner coffin or whatever it's called is a great substitute for the ESB-I's carbon freeze block.

Can't wait till I put Jango Evolutions and Deleted Scene Jangos in it.

 

[ShmashWitdaclub]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

The addition of the prisoner coffin or whatever it's called is a great substitute for the ESB-I's carbon freeze block.

thats the kick in the nuts for me right there. I like that coffin thingy - to me it is pretty cool. but I would rather wait for the ESB, like some of you are mentioning is eminent - the reference of the Rancor is a grreat comparisson.

So, I will also probably be waiting for the ESB release - and willmost likely just have to skip out on the coffin.

I could care less for the animated figures included.

 

[ReverendStrone]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Well, I think this CW set is a slick release. The battlepack has huge shelf appeal for parents and kids. While I agree the functioning boarding ramp (with a door) is a strange omission, it won't affect the appeal of the pack to that primary market. It's just us old farts that will complain about not having it.

I do wish Slave 1's new sculpt was a little larger than it is. While the overall tool and detailing is certainly improved, I'd have hoped for a little more of an increase in over all size vs the old mold, but really, how big is too big? Others have commented before that a BMF sized Slave 1 would be an overindulgence and I concede that point. I'd have just liked it to be a little larger than this is, but anyways, it's a good improvement and I look forward to the ESB deco version. In fact, I'm holding out for it. I don't have a place for the CW/PT version, but grown up Boba's Slave 1 will be a must-have, when they get to it.

 

[Masterfett]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Reposting. 18.5" long (versus the previous 15" length).

oooh a whopping 3.5" bigger, I hope that was enough room for all the features, oh wait there aren't any!
Honestly I was in the camp for a new one but they way they're releasing it doesn't seem friendly IMO, TRU exclusive=(over priced), 5 figures included, also the inclusion of a Jedi Starfighter seem way too much to expect this to sell well.
Hasbro said if this does well then it would be considered for ESB repaint, IMO this set doomed to fail the way it's packaged.
I like the new Droid and Boba, and the new Slave-1 is cool too considering they didn't do all that much to it, but that's really all I want the rest of that stuff is utterly useless to me.
I know I'll end up breaking down and buying it because it's all about Fett.

 

[Luciano]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I would have liked to seen a handle on the bottom for this and perhaps a opening door entrance to the cargo hold at the end of the boarding ramp:

In addition to a side-by-side comparison to the previous ship, I would like to also see if the Han Solo in Carbonite block can fit where the prisoner holding cell is.

Another disappointment I have is the lack of electronic lights and sounds.

I would have loved to have working headlights and sonar depthcharges effects from the AOTC Jango vs Obi-Wan asteroid chase in lieu of an extra jedi-fighter and figures.

 

[Michael_Knight]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

This looks promising. I hope they plan an individual release in this scheme in addition to an OTC release. Can't wait to see comparison pics!

 

[Devo]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Well, its disappointing but not a disaster. A simple ESB repaint of this would be fine for all we see the ship doing in Empire. Thats what I'll buy it for. Annoying about the lack of boarding ramp as seen in ESB and AOTC but not more annoying than the lack of corridor leading into the Millenium Falcon cockpit! In ESB the Slave I is only seen in profile while the boarding ramp is being used, you can't actually see where they are putting Han....so this new Slave I will pretty much do.

 

[jrice73]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I'll probably get it but I'm a bit disappointed with the size. Hasbro should have made this BIG and I mean more than 18.5" in length. Should have created one that was just a tad under two feet! Maybe in the 22" or 23" range. That way they would have had room for making the ramp actually go someplace! Also, I don't want all the crap that goes with it. Hell, with all the stuff they packed in, starfighter and figures, they could have made this much larger. This is at least a $100.00 set but the way I see it, that $100.00 should go to an exceptionally sized Slave 1. Just my two cents...

 

[Droidworld]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I like the astromech, that's about it. It seems like it'll be a great Xmas gift for some Clone Wars fanatic kids though. A good selection of ships and figures.

 

[RogueWompRat]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Very cool, though the internal space could have been used a little better. Much better then the SAGA1 which is terrible because it's all one plastic chunk. I like my POTF2 one and don't really have the space for an update, but if they released this in ESB colors (with mandatory Carbon Slab) I might be tempted.

 

[Glennfett23]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

TESB paint scheme and an updated carbonite slabe with the addition of Boba from TESB and id buy it.
Dont really care for them CW figures...it does look mighty nice and im glad they put in a galley rather than leave it filled with plastic like in the later releases.

 

[TacoBot]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Very cool, though the internal space could have been used a little better. Much better then the SAGA1 which is terrible because it's all one plastic chunk. I like my POTF2 one and don't really have the space for an update, but if they released this in ESB colors (with mandatory Carbon Slab) I might be tempted.

I'm with you.

 

[Blight]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I don't see anything drastically different enough about this release besides being a bit larger to merit purchase. It's still not to scale, or in the right colors. If it was in the right colors and it had more interior room than I'd want it

 

[Glitch]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I think that extra 3.5 inches in length is going to make more of a difference in overall size than most people realize. Remember when everyone was freaking out because the new AT-AT was only six inches taller than the old one? That turned out pretty well and I expect the same to be true here.

To be honest, I don't believe this is one of those ships that needs to be ridiculously large like the AT-AT or the Falcon. In fact, 18.5 inches for this ship in relation to the Falcon at 30 inches works out quite nicely. I think we're beginning to get spoiled by these giant redos. I'm still in shock that we even got this one considering Hasbro produced a totally 100% new Slave 1 as recent as 2002. In terms of Hasbro tool milking, that's still a newborn.

The only thing I'm really disappointed in is the ramp issue (which would have been an easy fix). Other than that, I can't wait for the Empire version!

P.S. Ha ha...I said tool milking.

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[Mildoo]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

If I get this it has to be on clearance or a good sale otherwise this is a pass. OT colors would have been better.

 

[IndianaKenobi]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Would have been nice to get an accurate ramp, and proper seating, however this update is a decent enough upgrade in my books. With that said I still do not feel it is a justifiable enough update to warrant another purchase. I’ll pass.

 

[King_D]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Would have been nice to get an accurate ramp, and proper seating, however this update is a decent enough upgrade in my books. With that said I still do not feel it is a justifiable enough update to warrant another purchase. I’ll pass.

What's wrong with the seating? The swivel cockpit is a significant upgrade.

 

[Mildoo]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

What's wrong with the seating?

They have to stand.

 

[Glitch]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Yeah, the decision to load something this big (and new) into what is going to be a price inflated boxed set (like all Toys R Us exclusives) is a bit of a head scratcher.

For the success of the ship, I really wish they would have kept this a strait release. As it stands, we may be seeing these on the shelved for some time - in boxes with the three new figures swapped for old figures or just flat out stolen.

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[IndianaKenobi]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Would have been nice to get an accurate ramp, and proper seating, however this update is a decent enough upgrade in my books. With that said I still do not feel it is a justifiable enough update to warrant another purchase. I’ll pass.

What's wrong with the seating? The swivel cockpit is a significant upgrade.

They don’t actually ‘sit’, they stand.

 

[ReverendStrone]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I suspect that's partly a space issue and partly due to many CW figures not having knees.

 

[Trooper31]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

I think 2011 would be the earliest, but there could be a problem with that. First, if this comes out around Black Friday, then it could end up lingering into the new year. Not due to the fact that it won't sell, but because they might ship this in lar´ge quantities. Hasbro might want something new for 2011, but who knows. Second, 2012 is the 10th anniv of AOTC and Hasbro may want to milk this thing then, but with Jango. If that happens, we're looking at a longer wait for a TESB release.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see this in ESB colors in 2011, but I have the feeling we might be in for a bit of a wait. I'm assuming that Hasbro would release this in an ESB version before they went back and did an AOTC version, because they know the pull of Boba is greater than that of Jango.

Although this could become the next Bespin Han/Hoth Luke as well.

I will say this though. I don't see Hasbro going back and redoing anything on this ship until they've released it at least two times. I highly doubt that we'll ever see another version of Slave I. I would love to see one that was bigger, with the ramp that leads into the ship, and more space inside, but think this is basically what Hasbro has decided on for Slave I.

 

[RogueTrader]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

Other than the obvious, ugly hinge on the side, I think it looks pretty good.

 

[SaberSonic83]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

paintjob detailing looks awesome, I'd love to see this in the OT colors of course. I think they have really stepped up in the "wear" if their paintjobs. Both the AT-AT and new snowspeeder look incredibly convincing as worn in vehicles while still retaining that newness.

 

[keknivek]

Re: Big Slave I - The Vintage Version - Speculatio

OK... Waiting to pass total judgement on this, BUT:

1) How many kids get a $150 AT-AT AND a $100 Slave I for Christmas? (I hate them if they do... I don't care if they are 7 years old... hate is the right word)
2) Why does Hasbro put out a CLEARLY inferior product when it's not really all that difficult to get it right? (Everyone knows what is needed in a Slave I release... it's just carelessness that causes the lack of attention to detail)

SOOO... you eliminate all but the die-hard (and rich) Clone Wars cartoon fans by releasing this at a time when there will *finally* be a Thousand dollars worth of product to choose from, AND THEN alienate the Boba Fett and other Original Trilogy fans by issuing it with what I would consider to be unforgivably missing features.

OT fans will pass (waiting for a rerelease in "their" colors). Those buying the AT-AT will pass. And because everyone will want the AT-AT, the product fails and then we hear "collectors have fallen off and we can't see putting out big box items like this due to blah blah blah...blee blee blue.