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Thread: Stormtroopers in The Empire Strikes Back

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    Stormtroopers in The Empire Strikes Back

    Unless I'm mistaken, I believe the first time we see stormtroopers in Empire is when they swarm in behind the group on Cloud City after Darth Vader takes Han Solo's gun. This seems so late in the film to reintroduce such an iconic element of the first film. It probably seemed noticeable in the theatre in 1980 but not so much now in a world crawling with Star Wars images. Correct me if I'm wrong about this being their first appearance. I don't count the snowtroopers on Hoth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZevSenesca View Post
    Unless I'm mistaken, I believe the first time we see stormtroopers in Empire is when they swarm in behind the group on Cloud City after Darth Vader takes Han Solo's gun. This seems so late in the film to reintroduce such an iconic element of the first film. It probably seemed noticeable in the theatre in 1980 but not so much now in a world crawling with Star Wars images. Correct me if I'm wrong about this being their first appearance. I don't count the snowtroopers on Hoth.
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    I'll let someone else confirm it... but I think you're right.

    I remember the troopers coming off notably alien in that Bespin locale.... maybe its partly because of what you pointed out.... it being the first time we've seen them since 1977.

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    Good observation.

    As I kid I just remember SNOWTROOPERS COOL! and forgot all about the standard stormtrooper.

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    Guess what other element TLJ cribbed off ESB?
    That's right, the standard troopers show up very late in that film too. (during the Supremacy infiltration)

    There's not a single OT stormtrooper visible in the corridors leading up to the Executor bridge in ESB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushie View Post
    There's not a single OT stormtrooper visible in the corridors leading up to the Executor bridge in ESB?
    Not that I've noticed. It's all Death Squad Commanders and Imperial Officers.

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    An interesting point and I think you're right. I was thinking there was one on the star destroyer somewhere, but thinking again, I'm sure they were just naval troopers.
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    I never really noticed this, but thinking on it...you're right. The classic trooper is introduced late in the film. I suppose the Snowtrooper really fulfills the role though, the generic soldier. They're just specialized. I always thought the Snowtrooper design was somewhat risque, but on point. They kind of look like futurist KKK members and I assume perhaps that's intentional.
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    Aren't Snowtroopers just Stormtroopers equipped and trained for cold environments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oofa View Post
    Aren't Snowtroopers just Stormtroopers equipped and trained for cold environments?
    Essentially. Snowtroopers have always been strange to me. They're easily the least used on screen of the four (sand, regular, snow, scout) troopers. They barely get any screen time and don't really do much. Their main scene would probably be when they're flanking Vader in Echo base and the Falcon gun takes them out. I guess technically there is a fifth type of trooper in the OT, that being the space trooper, and it's probably seen for less than three seconds. And really they're just regular stormtroopers with an oxygen tank.
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    The way I understand it (and this is subject to change cos Disney keep introducing new troopers to sell toys) is that the Stormtrooper Corps are a semi independent arm of Imperial special forces, as it were. With further subdivisions of specialised personnel, such as troops trained for extreme conditions, like Sandtroopers and Snowtroopers, with the ultimate expression of the Stormtrooper Corps being the Imperial Royal Guard.

    This was all more contained and sensible before all the EU junk started adding loads of nonsense to the mix and it's even worse now with Disney's junk added as well.

    The Empire now have more troop variations (toys) than they know what to do with.

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