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Thread: The Cost Of Hasbro’s Star Wars License

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick10126 View Post
    Yeah I’m trying to think who or what they could have released that would been interesting toys. One thing that has really struck me on all the lines for the new movies...where are the aliens?? And when they do release aliens, what’s the deal with all their faces being covered? Those don’t make for interesting toys. Look back at the OT and the PT. You get cantina aliens, Bounty hunters, jabba’s palace. From the PT you get nemoidians, senators, Jedi council members, gungans.

    Who do you have in the ST and spin offs that aren’t wearing helmets or masks covering their face?? This is Star Wars, aliens are the world building appeal.
    The Praetorian Guards are really cool, fun toys. Though I know some people didn't like their design.

    The Resistance Troopers on crait had a lot of potential for different figures with different accessories.

    Luke's suicide robes and Crait Hero robes were great designs

    Canto Bight Police Officers

    All the different aliens from the casino

    The many different BB units

    Jedi Training Rey

    There's more, but I thought there were plenty of interesting designs.

  2. #22
    TLJ was a great movie, but sadly it was comprised mostly of the same characters from TFA in different outfits - and nearly all human to boot. The Force Link line for TLJ and Solo both did well according to Hasbro's sales data though, beating out other products like TBS. With the TLJ basic line long over, I'm hoping TVC picks up where the basic line left off. Crait Luke, Crait Leia, Connix, Holdo, Caretakers, Resistance troops, Ackbar, Yoda spirit etc. Hasbro could even do a few obscure aliens, like Bollie Prindel from the Raddus bridge, or Snoke's Attendants, or perhaps even an alien from Canto Bight, but I'm doubting it. TLJ was much like ESB - mostly outfit changes, not as many new characters.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by HothHan View Post
    In my opinion TLJ was least "toyetic" of all the Star Wars movies. Also the movie sucked.
    Not sure what you were watching.

    The AT-M6, First Order walkers and scout walkers
    All the Canto Bight creatures
    Resistance bombers

    A lot of things that haven't been made... yet.

    Why did you think Last Jedi sucked?
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by darth_sidious View Post
    TLJ was a great movie, but sadly it was comprised mostly of the same characters from TFA in different outfits - and nearly all human to boot. The Force Link line for TLJ and Solo both did well according to Hasbro's sales data though, beating out other products like TBS. With the TLJ basic line long over, I'm hoping TVC picks up where the basic line left off. Crait Luke, Crait Leia, Connix, Holdo, Caretakers, Resistance troops, Ackbar, Yoda spirit etc. Hasbro could even do a few obscure aliens, like Bollie Prindel from the Raddus bridge, or Snoke's Attendants, or perhaps even an alien from Canto Bight, but I'm doubting it. TLJ was much like ESB - mostly outfit changes, not as many new characters.
    Thanks to Yakface's rumour report we know Crait Luke is coming anyway.

  5. #25
    Hasbro could spend years on the Maz's castle and Canto Bight aliens alone. I just pictured a BB-8 and leprechaun gremlin gambler dude 2-pack.

    Obscure aliens pose a great retail risk as evidenced by cantina alien and skiff guard pegwarmers back in 2011-2012 or whatever years it was. I remember it all too clearly and why I prepare for our favorite heroes and most popular villains coming back to TVC retail in 2019.

    Will Yak Face and Klaatu eventually peg warm? Could go either way because of the pent-up demand for OT TVC figures.

    That's why I wish Hasbro would test out a couple TVC obscure characters on HasLab and would be shocked if those discussions haven't already happened. The key is convincing the decision makers, Disney, whoever that it's worth the financial risk to put together (employee costs) and market (advertising costs). If it doesn't fund then those costs are lost.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by HothHan View Post
    In my opinion TLJ was least "toyetic" of all the Star Wars movies. Also the movie sucked.
    Agreed.

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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by bac View Post
    Hasbro could spend years on the Maz's castle and Canto Bight aliens alone. I just pictured a BB-8 and leprechaun gremlin gambler dude 2-pack.

    Obscure aliens pose a great retail risk as evidenced by cantina alien and skiff guard pegwarmers back in 2011-2012 or whatever years it was. I remember it all too clearly and why I prepare for our favorite heroes and most popular villains coming back to TVC retail in 2019.

    Will Yak Face and Klaatu eventually peg warm? Could go either way because of the pent-up demand for OT TVC figures.

    That's why I wish Hasbro would test out a couple TVC obscure characters on HasLab and would be shocked if those discussions haven't already happened. The key is convincing the decision makers, Disney, whoever that it's worth the financial risk to put together (employee costs) and market (advertising costs). If it doesn't fund then those costs are lost.
    Some obscure characters do have the potential to pegwarm, that's why they should be released in the basic assortment or TVC during the actual movie release, when interest is high. I doubt people will be barking for Canto Bight aliens years from now, especially with new movies being released constantly. That's the real impediment on action figure collecting - with potentially endless new movies, the chances of Hasbro revisiting older movies continues to dwindle. The resculpts of Yak Face and Klaatu look good, and I'm excited for Yakface, but at the same time...they're rehashes. TVC has yet to really energize collectors with new characters that aren't available in the basic line or previous releases. If Hasbro announced they're releasing Cane Adiss or another obscure alien never released, they'll likely awaken many hibernating collectors.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by darth_sidious View Post
    If Hasbro announced they're releasing Cane Adiss or another obscure alien never released, they'll likely awaken many hibernating collectors.
    I totally agree and hope it's only a matter of time. The Barge "awakened" me from hibernation. For others vehicles aren't the fuel -- figures are.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Piet View Post
    Not sure what you were watching.

    The AT-M6, First Order walkers and scout walkers
    All the Canto Bight creatures
    Resistance bombers

    A lot of things that haven't been made... yet.

    Why did you think Last Jedi sucked?
    I think we could get a whole debate going of EXACTLY why the Last Jedi sucked, but I don't think this is quite the place for movie discussion. There were some nice visuals, I'll give it that, and the fact that JJ (surprisingly, and smartly) chose a REAL location in Skellig Michael, which really shines in TLJ. I love the atmosphere.

    As for your list, I really feel none of them were worth making a toy of. The AT-M6 hardly gets any action, we never even get to see it roll those bombs off the back or do anything of note except blast all their fire at a mirage lol They also don't look unique enough to me to justify doing yet ANOTHER walker when they simply ripped off the old one and made it "bigger". Not compelling to me. Ditto with the TLJ Scout Walker.

    The Canto Bight citizens were simply a space version of an aristocratic crowd. I can't imagine any kid or adult who wants them for their collection. They are there for an obvious undertone and overt message. I agree with a previous poster that the police were actually the coolest design, and even they don't do anything cool or of note. I guess you could say the same for the Bespin Guards, but at least they gang up with Lobot and are featured in multiple scenes. The blue was very monochromatic and iconic. Simple and elegant, and more importantly, memorable. With ROTJ, Lucas and his designers chose a great "pirate" theme with the skiffs and barge. Thats why they all look so amazing and unique. Weequay's name is even a play on Moby ****'s classic first mate, Queequeg. I just don't feel that much of the designs lend themselves to any iconic looks, outside the Praetorians and the Canto Bight officers.

    What we got in TLJ design-wise was a bunch of rehashes. Nothing ship-wise felt new either outside the Bombers, but I don't feel like the Bombers were "good" designs. They looked sort of impractical and were filmed as very hulking, slow ships that would be picked off so easily in the heat of battle. I mean, only one made it lol and then it exploded anyhow. That being said, I wasn't a fan of any of the Chiang designs from Rogue One either, or even the stuff from TFA, so maybe Lucasfilm needs more creative minds that will push the envelope more. I actually did like the SOLO designs, so there's hope. Again, just my two cents.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by SaberSonic83 View Post
    I think we could get a whole debate going of EXACTLY why the Last Jedi sucked, but I don't think this is quite the place for movie discussion. There were some nice visuals, I'll give it that, and the fact that JJ (surprisingly, and smartly) chose a REAL location in Skellig Michael, which really shines in TLJ. I love the atmosphere.

    As for your list, I really feel none of them were worth making a toy of. The AT-M6 hardly gets any action, we never even get to see it roll those bombs off the back or do anything of note except blast all their fire at a mirage lol They also don't look unique enough to me to justify doing yet ANOTHER walker when they simply ripped off the old one and made it "bigger". Not compelling to me. Ditto with the TLJ Scout Walker.

    The Canto Bight citizens were simply a space version of an aristocratic crowd. I can't imagine any kid or adult who wants them for their collection. They are there for an obvious undertone and overt message. I agree with a previous poster that the police were actually the coolest design, and even they don't do anything cool or of note. I guess you could say the same for the Bespin Guards, but at least they gang up with Lobot and are featured in multiple scenes. The blue was very monochromatic and iconic. Simple and elegant, and more importantly, memorable. With ROTJ, Lucas and his designers chose a great "pirate" theme with the skiffs and barge. Thats why they all look so amazing and unique. Weequay's name is even a play on Moby ****'s classic first mate, Queequeg. I just don't feel that much of the designs lend themselves to any iconic looks, outside the Praetorians and the Canto Bight officers.

    What we got in TLJ design-wise was a bunch of rehashes. Nothing ship-wise felt new either outside the Bombers, but I don't feel like the Bombers were "good" designs. They looked sort of impractical and were filmed as very hulking, slow ships that would be picked off so easily in the heat of battle. I mean, only one made it lol and then it exploded anyhow. That being said, I wasn't a fan of any of the Chiang designs from Rogue One either, or even the stuff from TFA, so maybe Lucasfilm needs more creative minds that will push the envelope more. I actually did like the SOLO designs, so there's hope. Again, just my two cents.
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