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    Remember how many new species TPM tossed in? Despite the odd Nikto or Weequay in the crowds, most of the spotlight Tatooine aliens were all-new, Mawhonic being a sole exception. Then AotC brough the Dug, Aleena and such back and they seemed more cemented in the SW universe. I hope TLJ and ep 9 will also provide a healthy mix of PT/OT species and new ones from TFA. Ello Asty and his kind seem to be especially prevalent.

    Man, why didn't they make any of the new main cast an alien? Apart from Chewie and Jar Jar, all the other main heroes are either humans or droids.
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    yeah it really isn't too big an issue for me as the galaxy is soooooo huge, but I woulda dug (pun intended) a few more familiar aliens in TFA; other than Salo Gardner's cool cameo, & Chewie.. we had that Ithorian-esque character. I kinda thought they over used the Abednedo in TFA, and now Asty's dead and the same style character is a R pilot in TLJ, it's literally Asty w/ a name change! The casino looks stacked w/ new species too, but you know when you read the books, the millions of systems, planets etc lends to the possibility. The PT had oodles of classic SW species, I'd guess to ease the burden of all the new digital characters and suit the extras in an easier, convenient fashion to some degree, run pre-existing molds and still give out 100% SW vibe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilloftheForce View Post
    I love the idea of a new trilogy, especially if it's KotoR. However, a trilogy by Rian Johnson? I'm not so sure. One of our greatest pop culture icons, Han Solo...has already been brushed off in the most ignominious of ways. Carrie Fisher is lost to us now, with Leia most like to be killed off in the TLJ. And Luke Skywalker? Rian Johnson appears to have taken the other of our great pop-cultural icons and gutted him, turning Luke from wizened Jedi Master, to a sulky, paranoid old man. He's totally bereft of any of the growth and maturity he gained in ROTJ, and he looks to be so much less of a man and Jedi than Obi-wan was.

    So...unless it's all misdirection, Let's just say I'm not at all excited to see what RJ will do with a clean slate. Which brings up my other concern; Star Wars has lost all it's creativity.

    Every post-Lucas SW film has been at best derivative, and at worst an outright rip (TFA). TFA gave us blue X-Wings, Black Tie-fighters, stupid looking 'Duck-in-Shades' Storm Troopers, and no cool looking Side characters or aliens. TLJ is doing the same. The ships look lame and uninteresting. The Hoth battle is being ripped with bigger, clunkier, Ape-looking At-Ats and anorexic B-Wings fighting them. They're bringing back the A-Wing to boot too (not a bad thing in and of itself, but come on...there's supposed to be an evolution of design here).

    Lastly, the lead villains look completely uninteresting. One of the key elements of Star Wars are icon looking villains. What do have so far? An old man in a bath robe, and a Darth Vader wannabe, who's not even really wearing his Darth Vader wannabe suit half the time (which does look kind of cool).

    George Lucas, whatever one thinks about him, is a creative genius. His visions have given us the things that have endured. All Disney and their lackeys can do are imitate. What should have happened was Disney should have kept George Lucas involved. The Clone Wars cartoon had the right formula in having other people direct, with Lucas giving and modifying the designs and ideas. Excluding him the way they did is not only arrogance, it's already showing a fatal flaw. Like I said, all they can do is imitate AND over-saturate. Unless Disney gets him back on board, or gets a director with truly creative vision, then Star Wars is going to get old, and redundant.
    Haha, yeah, that about sums it up.

    Prepare to be underwhelmed.

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    Yeah, when you put it like that, they're really lacking in visual creativity. Kylo and Snoke are so similar to Vader and Palpatine it's not even funny. Not to mention all the ships, uniforms and even planets in TFA.
    Part of the reasons I was disappointed with TFA is because there's so little unique to it visually. Whenever I read an episode title, images unique to it pop into my head. For Rogue One, which I really like, it's Scarif, Death Troopers, Chirrut blind-hitting a TIE in the rain. TFA has a desert world with scavengers, a rebel base on a jungle planet, a menagerie of scum and villainy, a base hidden on a snow planet etc etc The only unique visual is ironically the universally despised Rathtar scene.

    So far, TLJ does seem more unique in the bigger picture, with Crait and Cantonica already providing cool new locations, along with the Resistance Bomber, Canto Bight police speeder and such. My hopes are on Rian's ability to go unexpected directions and really add a dimension to the Saga story-wise too. At this point, ep7 just feels like empty calories
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    The sad part is, they're doing it because that's what they think the audience wants...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterfett View Post
    The sad part is, they're doing it because that's what they think the audience wants...

    Not sad, correct. It made a ton of money and will continue to do so.

    There are a number of factions, but I think the most prevalent for our purposes are:

    1. New fans - hey, if Disney SW makes new SW fans, great for SW.
    2. Casual fans - big segment of the world that can tell you Vader is Lukes father at best and hey there's the Falcon, cool!
    3. Die hard fans that want to forget the prequels existed and will argue that anything that is JarJar-less is good.
    4. Die hard fans that just like everything SW. Doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks.
    5. Die hard fans that only like the OT.
    6. Die hard fans that only like GL SW.
    7. People that could give a rats @zz.

    There are other groups I'm sure, but most of population fits one of those buckets. So you see, this IS what 4/7 groups want! Which is a pretty big segment of the world. And you best believe, Disney's goal is to move as many people into bucket four as possible.

    The sad part is, that Disney is making SW purely for profit. They are a company and SW is their investment. Sure there are a lot of folks involved with Disney SW, I'd even say most, that are probably fans too, but they are all there for a pay check. Not JUST out of love for SW. So when you have folks earning a buck, working for a company trying to make a buck, you have the most bland, uncreative, PC, "this worked before" formula you could imagine (just my opinion of course). The result, "make it for the masses so you make more money for the mouse" kind of movie churned out every year. It's all about the bottom dollar and that's what makes me sad for franchise.

    Love or hate GL, he wasn't in it for the money. The guy is loaded already. He did it because it was his baby. Did it do it perfectly? Heck no, but he did it out of love. I'm sure there are those involved that do put their heart and soul into their piece of the Disney SW movie they are working on. The problem is, if it doesn't fit the money making mold, it'll get axed. I'm pretty sure GL donated almost every penny of that 4 billion he got from Disney. Disney is on the other hand is getting everything they can out of their investment. That's the difference. That's what's sad.

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    he "donated it" to the 'george lucas education foundation' in exchange for a personal tax receipt.
    Bill Gates does the same thing. he donates money to the "gates foundation" as a way of avoiding taxes.
    zuckerberg's got one. warren buffet uses the gates one. etc.

    it's just a scam for rich people to avoid paying taxes, and instead, funnel that money to building for-profit "museums" and "private schools" under the guise of "Education/Charity".
    (as an alternative to actually "paying taxes" so state governments can use those same funds to build "public schools" instead).

    if GL hadn't "donated" the cash proceeds from the sale of Star wars, then the gov't would have taken ALL the cash portion anyways LOL;
    dude got 2 billion in cash and 2.5 billion in Disney Stock -- the tax on the deal would have been about 40% -- he would have paid close to 2 billion in taxes.
    so instead of paying taxes into the public purse, instead he "donated" 2 billion from his right-pocket, into his OWN left-pocket (which he registers as a "charitable foundation")

    -> this is what the GL foundation built with all that "donated" money from the Disney sale. http://lucasmuseum.org/
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/11/entert...eum/index.html
    "...the $1 billion facility that will house George Lucas' personal art collection".
    wow.
    good game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt60 View Post
    he "donated it" to the 'george lucas education foundation' in exchange for a personal tax receipt.
    Bill Gates does the same thing. he donates money to the "gates foundation" as a way of avoiding taxes.
    zuckerberg's got one. warren buffet uses the gates one. etc.

    it's just a scam for rich people to avoid paying taxes, and instead, funnel that money to building for-profit "museums" and "private schools" under the guise of "Education/Charity".
    (as an alternative to actually "paying taxes" so state governments can use those same funds to build "public schools" instead).

    if GL hadn't "donated" the cash proceeds from the sale of Star wars, then the gov't would have taken ALL the cash portion anyways LOL;
    dude got 2 billion in cash and 2.5 billion in Disney Stock -- the tax on the deal would have been about 40% -- he would have paid close to 2 billion in taxes.
    so instead of paying taxes into the public purse, instead he "donated" 2 billion from his right-pocket, into his OWN left-pocket (which he registers as a "charitable foundation")

    -> this is what the GL foundation built with all that "donated" money from the Disney sale. http://lucasmuseum.org/
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/11/entert...eum/index.html
    "...the $1 billion facility that will house George Lucas' personal art collection".
    wow.
    good game.
    So who gets those profits?

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    ^^^ Mostly George...?

    George was in it to get those coins from the start… Not that it’s ever only a bad thing to desire wealth: I work hard so I can live in a fashionable address, own nice things and take holidays in nice places etc etc. I have nowhere close to 4 billion dollars, but I'd never fault George's greedy little heart the least for making that kind of bank. And those little plastic toys some of you here obsess over: They weren’t given away for free at any point— even when ANH and ESB ruled with a visionary momentum.

    Anyway, this new trilogy could actually be a brand new beginning.

    It’s too far off to dismiss it just as more of the same regurgitated-OT offering in a slightly modified package that this Sequel is living up to be. And for anyone that still can’t/won’t see just how transparently lazy the Sequel has/will be, then more power to them for believing it’s all brand new shiny and dazzling. (If anyone is still not convinced that TLJ will more or less be just a retread of ESB in its treatment and story beats, then some that have peeked the first 10 mins of it may just tell you that it’s a tad too close to home to ESB LOL)

    The fickle general public are the ones who are going to determine the direction of the new trilogy in time; whom BTW, will likely be suffering SW-fatigue by the end of the Sequel: A new movie out every year is just too much. The new direction is not going to be determined by those that accept and devour everything SW obediently: Films, live-action tv series, animated series, comic, books etc etc Disney know those types will take anything they push at them so they’re not working for those types. In a few years time, all these superhero/SW series will likely be seen by the masses the way any excess of pop culture at its most exploited and saturated will be seen: Another trend to reject and ridicule. So maybe there is a new hope that the new trilogy could be something… original.

    Disney showed that they are capable of producing a solid SW story when they offered RO… There is still good in them LOL
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    but, the first new film in said trilogy-will it be described as X? (10), or will the subtitle be the new description...

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