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Tweekem
07-03-2007, 08:37 AM
Whats the deal with these? I havnt heard anything in a long time. Can anyone dust off this topic?

SirTristram
07-03-2007, 09:30 AM
Well, they showed them at CIV again...I expect that we will hear more complete information at SDCC.
Under $6K each was the word at CIV.
Light and Sound, no movement.
I see no reason why the payment plan would be any different that their T-800, as well.

Tweekem
07-03-2007, 09:53 AM
I wonder what the payment breakdown will be. I want these but my eyes are always bigger than my wallet. I have the following coming from MR this year still

Boba SE Blaster
Boba SE Helm
Shadow Stormie Helm
Gree Helm

and thats just the props.. I just purchased a set of Jango blasters for $575 shipped and Im working on a deal for the Emperor cane and clasp for $200.

I need some serious help.. or to win the lottery. UGH!

SirTristram
07-03-2007, 09:57 AM
I am betting that it will mos tlikely mirror the T-800.

$995 down upon ordering. Non-refundable.

Then five monthly payments of $1000.

For each droid.

I heard that are not making a deal for people who wish to purchase the pair together...I think that is a mistake.
!0,000 for the pair would have been a good way to sell them.

Tweekem
07-03-2007, 10:15 AM
If thats the case I will pass on these two and wait for a 501st Trooper, Jango Fett and Boba Fett. Those are what I focus on mostly. Too bad... the droids would be awesome... but who knows what may or may not happen. Keeping my fingers crossed!

SirTristram
07-03-2007, 10:38 AM
If thats the case I will pass on these two and wait for a 501st Trooper, Jango Fett and Boba Fett.



What? Life-size?

Tweekem
07-03-2007, 10:46 AM
I dont see why they would stop with the droids.

SirTristram
07-03-2007, 10:47 AM
I dont see why they would stop with the droids.



if they don't sell quick enough.

Tweekem
07-03-2007, 11:00 AM
I think it will be a sell out.. those things are beautiful and your choise of 3PO is great as well. Didnt they mention they were making 2 versions of each? One set less and one set primo?

SirTristram
07-03-2007, 11:06 AM
Didnt they mention they were making 2 versions of each? One set less and one set primo?



That's the first I am hearing about that! I guess we will see when SDCC finally rolls around.

Tweekem
07-03-2007, 11:16 AM
What I think I remember reading and hearing is that 3PO was going to have two versions... "shiny" and "dull".. and that R2 was going to be "mechanical" and "non".

Tweekem
07-03-2007, 11:17 AM
I could be completely wrong on this... but I swear thats what I remember.

SirTristram
07-03-2007, 01:36 PM
Well, I hope you're right! I really want an RC R2 unit!

Mister_Gosh
07-04-2007, 07:41 PM
Well, I hope you're right! I really want an RC R2 unit!



If they said this, it wasn't at the C4 panel. I'd say I'm following the news on these guys pretty closely and I can't recall anything about two versions.

However, it *is* worth noting that Sideshow is apparently revisiting the T-800 endo in a "battle worn" version, so maybe that's where this particular rumor got started.

Shadow
07-04-2007, 08:45 PM
If they said this, it wasn't at the C4 panel. I'd say I'm following the news on these guys pretty closely and I can't recall anything about two versions.



I was at the C4 panel as well and I didn't hear mention of two versions either.

Here are some images of them from the C4 display.

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/309/r2vh7.jpg

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6632/c3zx3.jpg

DarthInwah
07-05-2007, 12:44 AM
Nice pics! I want one!!!!

I guess we'll have to ask SSC at SDCC to be sure about 2 versions....

SirTristram
07-05-2007, 09:01 AM
I've only heard about the one, non-moving versions as well.
But it did always strike me as peculiar that they hired out an animatronics specialist to build...statues that are not animatronic. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/blush.gif

DarthCrack
07-15-2007, 10:46 PM
Does anyone know how much one of those R2 builder teams charge for their mobile-multiarmed units?

Jay_the_Lesser
07-17-2007, 12:39 PM
I talked with one of the R2 Builders at CIV. The average price is $4-5000. Then goes up depending on what extra bells and whistles you want.

Sideshow said at CIV that they're tring to have them ready at the $6000 or slightly under range when they're ready. But there is NO eta.

Tweekem
07-17-2007, 01:22 PM
Thats pricey... I wish I could remember where I saw that there were going to be 2 versions... of 3PO at least from what I remember... they were going to do a "shiny" version and a weathered from what I read. And with R2 I thought there was an electric and regular version... who knows.. it was a few months ago I read it. I will do my sleuthing thing this weekend and see if I can find that source.

SirTristram
07-17-2007, 02:19 PM
I really hope you're right!

The R2 droid builders that i soke to at CE that saw the prototypes and spoke with Sideshow reps think they are "Crap".

I just want the best looking R2 that I can for a fair price. I would rather have it RC or at least electronic effects (Sounds, Lights, Rotating dome, etc.)

They told me that for $5K I could get a good RC version....I would rather that than $5K-$6k for a static version!

Mister_Gosh
07-17-2007, 06:30 PM
The R2 droid builders that i soke to at CE that saw the prototypes and spoke with Sideshow reps think they are "Crap".



With all due respect to the excellent skills of the droid-building hobbiest community, that's the standard reaction of any hobbiest building their replicas as a labor of love when confronted with a factory item. It doesn't actually mean the factory job is "crap".

What I know to be true is that I simply *cannot* build an R2 of the quality I saw at Sideshow's booth at C4 for what they are going to ask for it. I would expect to have to practice *at least* a couple times to get to that level, at which point I'd have sunk *way* more into it than the Sideshow version. Moreover, that kind of DIY hobby isn't how I like to spend my time. I don't enjoy it, and I find DIY stuff like that ultimately becomes a chore to avoid rather than an enjoyable passtime.

Now, if DIY *is* your thing, then that changes the economics dramatically. In that case, you're not just spending your thousands of dollars on a "thing", you're also spending them on the experience, and that experience may be *way* more valuable to you than the thing. In that model, it's not unreasonable to think that sinking tens of thousands into an R2 might still be "cheaper" than buying a factory unit at $6000.

But for those of us who don't enjoy the building? This sure looks like a great deal. If an R2 builder who wants to break the "no sales" code cares to offer a "better" unit at a comparable price, I'd certainly listen.

SirTristram
07-17-2007, 06:38 PM
The R2 droid builders that i soke to at CE that saw the prototypes and spoke with Sideshow reps think they are "Crap".



With all due respect to the excellent skills of the droid-building hobbiest community, that's the standard reaction of any hobbiest building their replicas as a labor of love when confronted with a factory item. It doesn't actually mean the factory job is "crap".

What I know to be true is that I simply *cannot* build an R2 of the quality I saw at Sideshow's booth at C4 for what they are going to ask for it. I would expect to have to practice *at least* a couple times to get to that level, at which point I'd have sunk *way* more into it than the Sideshow version. Moreover, that kind of DIY hobby isn't how I like to spend my time. I don't enjoy it, and I find DIY stuff like that ultimately becomes a chore to avoid rather than an enjoyable passtime.

Now, if DIY *is* your thing, then that changes the economics dramatically. In that case, you're not just spending your thousands of dollars on a "thing", you're also spending them on the experience, and that experience may be *way* more valuable to you than the thing. In that model, it's not unreasonable to think that sinking tens of thousands into an R2 might still be "cheaper" than buying a factory unit at $6000.

But for those of us who don't enjoy the building? This sure looks like a great deal. If an R2 builder who wants to break the "no sales" code cares to offer a "better" unit at a comparable price, I'd certainly listen.



I feel the same way.
...and for the record, the bloke I spoke to at CE, had no problem making one for me and selling it....of course he is UK based and that simply is not an option for me to buy one from him!

Kronet
07-17-2007, 07:57 PM
I just find it kinda freaky, like having a stuffed pet.

StarWarsHelmets
07-19-2007, 04:27 PM
I just find it kinda freaky, like having a stuffed pet.



In that case you better not come round my house as it may look to you like its filed with loads of decapuitated "heads" given all the helmets I have http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I cant speak for the R2 but the proto version I saw of the 3PO (only painted not plated) left me very impressed, and the new version which is completely plated looks awesome.

I've had a LOT of experience plating 3po heads and its left me with the view that although I could get a complete 3po kit and plate it myself - it is a HUGE task and a hell of a lot of hassle - to the extent that I'm seriously considering one of Sideshow's

Added to that they're a very collectible piece. Note to any SC guys reading this - let me know if you want anyone to "review@ one of these babies for you http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Cheers

Jez

JediDave37
07-23-2007, 02:13 PM
Got to Have!!!

DarthCrack
07-23-2007, 06:51 PM
I don't like the uncluttered Threepio belly, but the R2 is hot. The only thing I wish it had is a pop-up saber (RotJ) or the pop-up viewfinder (tESB, Dagobah).

Fetunche
07-24-2007, 09:45 PM
Pre order Saturday

deathstar1000
07-24-2007, 10:30 PM
So who's buying?

SirTristram
07-24-2007, 10:43 PM
So who's buying?



I intend on buying but not Saturday. I had the money all ready to go and now I am moving and my money is completelly depleted! I hope they make enough to go around!

bac
07-25-2007, 09:09 AM
I'm in for an R2. My Jawa needs a buddy (see signature)

Mister_Gosh
07-25-2007, 01:35 PM
I intend on buying but not Saturday. I had the money all ready to go and now I am moving and my money is completelly depleted! I hope they make enough to go around!



I'm assuming (and hoping) these will be more or less made-to-order over a lengthy window (like the T-800 Endo was), and not based around a fixed edition size. With the price point being what it will be, I don't think there's any reason to have a pre-set edition size at all.

Jedinate
07-25-2007, 02:31 PM
Will be reserving judgement until I see them at the show but will more than likely pick both up. Definitely getting the R2 though.

SirTristram
07-25-2007, 05:14 PM
Well, the latest pictures that SSC has up has these two babies and they have indeed been tweeked sice CIV. They are BOTH Weathered now!
I wonder if they will have an option to have them weathered and presitine!?

SirTristram
07-25-2007, 05:15 PM
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/placed/cc07-galleries/cc07-072507_gal01/large/P7240025.JPG

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/placed/cc07-galleries/cc07-072507_gal01/large/P7240024.JPG

Jedinate
07-25-2007, 05:23 PM
Personally I like the weathered look better because it reminds me of the Original Trilogy version. Will most definitely be picking that R2 up though, thanks for tracking down those pics.

SirTristram
07-25-2007, 05:52 PM
You're welcome.
I like R2 weathered, but I think I want 3PO pristine. Not sure yet...

bac
07-25-2007, 06:35 PM
Another thanks for tracking down the pics. LOVE R2 weathered. I was worried we wouldn't be, though for those of you who want pristine, I hope Sideshow offers an option. Can't wait to get him. The base, however... I hope it can be easily removed.

My price guess for R2: $5999

DarthInwah
07-25-2007, 11:20 PM
r2 $5495 c3 $5995

Mister_Gosh
07-26-2007, 02:56 AM
The base, however... I hope it can be easily removed.



That's not the base they were promising at C4 (which would be deckplating with lights). I think the T-800 shipped with the base seperate (to be attached by the customer), so there's a good chance that's how R2 would ship.

sTk
07-26-2007, 11:30 AM
If only I had the money for these, and the space. Not too sure they'd look great next to the lifesize Maul though, different trilogy an all that.

bac
07-26-2007, 11:45 AM
r2 $5495 c3 $5995



Where did you see that?

Darth_Finger
07-26-2007, 12:19 PM
They sure are cool http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

deathstar1000
07-26-2007, 01:23 PM
r2 $5495 c3 $5995


http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Whoa! That's a lot of cash. But I'm sure it will be worth every penny! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

DarthInwah
07-26-2007, 02:54 PM
r2 $5495 c3 $5995



Where did you see that?


cards next to droids

Andy
07-26-2007, 03:18 PM
Ugh... I want these really really bad. But the price takes it to an all new level.

bac
07-26-2007, 03:55 PM
r2 $5495 c3 $5995



Where did you see that?


cards next to droids



That's what I suspected. Thanks!

SirTristram
07-26-2007, 04:42 PM
Yeah, this is what we all expected, no? Actually, R2 is cheaper than I thought he would be!

Mister_Gosh
07-26-2007, 06:00 PM
Yeah, this is what we ll expected, no? Actually, R2 is cheaper than I thought he would be!



Certainly a near-$6000 price point has been known for a while. R2's price is a pleasant surprise to me.

DarthPotts1975
07-26-2007, 07:26 PM
i'm a pretty big spender but i'll probably not be getting these. its just too much money.

i'll still bring it up with the wife to hear what she says http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Shalamar
07-26-2007, 08:08 PM
Heh. My wife is BUILDING an R2-D2. She'll probably have it built within a year, fully radio controlled, for maybe a third of that price.

However, building an R2 is a LOT of work. Hard work as well. And Sideshow is the only place where you can buy a fully built and assembled r2-d2.

Anonymous01
07-26-2007, 10:09 PM
Hmmm.. About $6K each, eh? Anyone know what the old Don Post life-size items are going for (e.g., Boba Fett, etc.)?

SirTristram
07-26-2007, 10:12 PM
Hmmm.. About $6K each, eh? Anyone know what the old Don Post life-size items are going for (e.g., Boba Fett, etc.)?



twice that amount. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Neal
07-26-2007, 10:12 PM
Ugh... I want these really really bad. But the price takes it to an all new level.



Oh, don't worry. I'm sure you'll find a way to win them for free.
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Mister_Gosh
07-26-2007, 11:21 PM
i'll still bring it up with the wife to hear what she says http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif



My wife was insisting on the R2 as soon as it was announced, so who am I to say no?

Shadow
07-27-2007, 09:56 AM
Here are just a few of the pics I took of the droids.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2472/dsc00022kz4.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1050/dsc00023uo0.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9374/dsc00024bt1.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4766/dsc00025nv4.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7677/dsc00026wi1.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9223/dsc00027ia0.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5504/dsc00028xs8.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1015/dsc00029kp7.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/33/dsc00033sa8.jpg

Michael_Ritter
07-27-2007, 03:43 PM
As long as the R2 has lights, sound and a automatically rotating Dome, Sideshow has a guaranteed sale. I've thought about building my own but I doubt I would ever get it to look as good as the one shown, if I even got it done. I don't need a fully functional R2 like I've seen at Celebrations by the R2 builders club.. I just need it to chirp, whistle, light up and spin his head. Nice and simple.

Mike

Mister_Gosh
07-27-2007, 03:46 PM
I just need it to chirp, whistle, light up and spin his head. Nice and simple.



Unless something has changed since C4, there isn't a motor in it.
There are lights, but I don't know if they decided on sound.

SirTristram
07-27-2007, 03:55 PM
They said it on the SSC video feed yesterday.
Lights - Confirmed and updated
Sound - Confirmed
Rotating dome - Confirmed, but only manually, NO MOTOR
Poseable arms and head for 3PO.
NO MOTOR OR RC FUNCTION AT ALL! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

bac
07-27-2007, 04:04 PM
They said it on the SSC video feed yesterday.
Lights - Confirmed and updated
Sound - Confirmed
Rotating dome - Confirmed, but only manually, NO MOTOR
Poseable arms and head for 3PO.
NO MOTOR OR RC FUNCTION AT ALL! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif



Did they happen to say anything about the third leg manually going up?

Michael_Ritter
07-27-2007, 09:10 PM
They said it on the SSC video feed yesterday.
Lights - Confirmed and updated
Sound - Confirmed
Rotating dome - Confirmed, but only manually, NO MOTOR
Poseable arms and head for 3PO.
NO MOTOR OR RC FUNCTION AT ALL! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif



That's pretty cheesy. They can make an automatically rotating dome on a $10 toy but can find a way to put it on a $5500 display piece. That is beyond brainless.

Mike

Mister_Gosh
07-27-2007, 11:31 PM
That's pretty cheesy. They can make an automatically rotating dome on a $10 toy but can find a way to put it on a $5500 display piece. That is beyond brainless.

Mike



And I'd be honked off if the motor in a multi-thousand dollar display piece was as lousy as in a cheap toy, so clearly it's more complicated than that.

I'm sure more thought went into it than you're giving them credit for, but hey guess you don't need to buy one now.

DarthInwah
07-27-2007, 11:43 PM
r2 $5495 c3 $5995



off by about $45....sorry:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2151/img0517cg6.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0517cg6.jpg)

sithmasterjedi
07-28-2007, 11:53 AM
Their up. go get um fellas

bobodohn
07-28-2007, 01:25 PM
The links to order are on the RS main page.

Now to start buttering up the wife for R2! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Darth_Finger
07-28-2007, 01:33 PM
So who is buying these?

SirTristram
07-28-2007, 01:51 PM
I'm getting both, but I not going to place my order for a few months.

CorvetteEB
07-28-2007, 02:35 PM
R2 looks good but I'm not impressed with C3po.

DarthPotts1975
07-28-2007, 02:46 PM
i plan to bring these up with the wife tonight http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

The_Chosen_1
07-28-2007, 03:24 PM
These are so expensive! You could get a pretty nice car for the price of both... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Ouch.

I_need_a_hero
07-28-2007, 03:24 PM
I would love the R2 but just can't see any realistic way of affording him so I will most likely have to pass http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Mister_Gosh
07-28-2007, 03:27 PM
I put in my order for R2. I'm still on the fence about 3PO, but I figure there's plenty of time to decide one way or the other.

I was initially turned off by the weathered finish on 3PO, but after comparing him to some film references, I'm coming around. It would be odd to have one weathered and the other clean, so I'll probably cave eventually.

CaptainCargo
07-28-2007, 04:17 PM
They definitely look nice, R2 better than 3PO... but I have no idea were I'd put these guys... (not to mention the price)

It'll be interesting to see the edition size of these guys

deathstar1000
07-28-2007, 06:28 PM
i plan to bring these up with the wife tonight http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Best of luck with that!

Neal
07-28-2007, 07:07 PM
i plan to bring these up with the wife tonight http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Hopefully, she has a shred of common sense and says "no".

deathstar1000
07-28-2007, 08:53 PM
i plan to bring these up with the wife tonight http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Hopefully, she has a shread of common sense and says "no".



LOL!

Geester
07-29-2007, 01:32 AM
$5,500? Are they on crack? I would love to own an R2 unit, but dude, $5,500? And I thought $1,900 was a lot for my Solo in Carbonite. I'll have to pass.

DarthInwah
07-29-2007, 01:41 AM
$5,500? Are they on crack? I would love to own an R2 unit, but dude, $5,500? And I thought $1,900 was a lot for my Solo in Carbonite. I'll have to pass.



actually a bargain. The don posts were originally $10000 for 3PO and $5 or 7K for R2. Then they realized with the time and money spent on it, they raised it to $20K and $10K respectively.

Geester
07-29-2007, 08:49 AM
I wouldn't say that was a bargain.
I'd say the don post prices were twice as outrageous.

Medusa
07-29-2007, 09:14 AM
I wouldn't say that was a bargain.
I'd say the don post prices were twice as outrageous.



I double that.

Do we all have lost sense of what things are worth ? To be honest the materials used cannot justify the price and without a Edition size it is too early to tell that the price point is set this high because of the low numbers ...

SirTristram
07-29-2007, 09:33 AM
These are made to order....It, in a sense, it is like having it custom made for you.
They are worth whatever people are willing to pay!

These things were made because Star Wars collecting has reached an alltime high....Look at what we pay for Master Replicas Lightsabers on the after market. Outrageous.

I attended CE and saw hundreds of people line up to get Mark Hamill's autograph...for 85 pounds/$170 a piece! A SIGNATURE!!!!! ...and not even a very good signature at that...He signs like Harrison Ford...like a 3rd grader using their opposite hand to see what it is like!

People, especially some Star Wars fans will buy anything...ANYTHING that says Star Wars on it!
I am still convinced that is Hasbro marketed Rancor Turds and slapped a Star Wars label on a bax, people would buy them! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

kolawan
07-29-2007, 09:54 AM
I attended CE and saw hundreds of people line up to get Mark Hamill's autograph...for 85 pounds/$170 a piece! A SIGNATURE!!!!!



Wow! I guess I didn't realize he charged SO much at CE! I already have his signature on the MR ESB SE saber, but I wanted to meet him at C4 and get a picture with him as well as something autographed and personalized, but $170..ouch! Guess it's a good thing he didn't show. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Anyways, price is relative to what you earn/how bad you want these items. I personally have wanted a lifesize R2 for many years now, but didn't want to spend the bucks on the Don Post. I enjoy a large salary, so $5,500 is a terrific price for R2 whom I'll be purchasing for sure. I'd like to purchase C3PO as well, since you can get him for just a little more than the price of R2, but $12,000 for the set is more than I want to spend.

SirTristram
07-29-2007, 09:59 AM
I'd like to purchase C3PO as well, since you can get him for just a little more than the price of R2, but $12,000 for the set is more than I want to spend.



I would like both. I really thought that they would swing a deal for people would wnated to purchase both at the same time. I figured 10,000 for the pair would have been a decent deal.
I guess they figure Star Wars is so popular and this is a rare chance for most people to have these things, so they can charge whatever they want, individually.

Mister_Gosh
07-29-2007, 01:04 PM
Do we all have lost sense of what things are worth ? To be honest the materials used cannot justify the price and without a Edition size it is too early to tell that the price point is set this high because of the low numbers ...



Take a look at what R2 builders go through to build even a static model themselves. We're talking months to even collect all the parts. Then there's the labor for assembly and the painting, buying the tools if you don't already have them, and the cost of screwing something up and having to do over. By the time you factor in the included shipping, I think the price is pretty representitive for what you're getting (I know people keep trotting out the "R2 builders can do it cheaper", but I think by the time you factor in labor and shipping that isn't strictly true...if someone can show me math to say otherwise, I'm listening).

The edition size has nothing to do with the price. They aren't just arbitrarily selecting a price point and then saying "well, this will be expensive because we aren't making many". The price point seems to be legitimately based around materials and labor. If you have data (and not just a knee-jerk "you shouldn't spend $6k on a hobby" reaction) to say otherwise, I'd love to read it!

DarthPotts1975
07-29-2007, 01:40 PM
i had a talk with the wife about getting these. she didnt rule it out http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif. i'll just have to wait awhile to see how finances are. i just hope SS gives us a cut-off on getting orders in. i would hate to wait then all of a sudden they stop taking orders.

Mister_Gosh
07-29-2007, 01:43 PM
i had a talk with the wife about getting these. she didnt rule it out http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif. i'll just have to wait awhile to see how finances are. i just hope SS gives us a cut-off on getting orders in. i would hate to wait then all of a sudden they stop taking orders.



I'm sure they'll give plenty of warning for the cut-off. I don't think they just suddenly took the Terminator Endo down without warning when it finally went off sale.

Shadow
07-29-2007, 10:15 PM
i had a talk with the wife about getting these. she didnt rule it out http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif. i'll just have to wait awhile to see how finances are. i just hope SS gives us a cut-off on getting orders in. i would hate to wait then all of a sudden they stop taking orders.



I'm sure they'll give plenty of warning for the cut-off. I don't think they just suddenly took the Terminator Endo down without warning when it finally went off sale.


That is what I'm counting on as well. This is not being released until 2nd Qtr 2008, so I have time to fit R2 into next year's budget. I have a full compliment of high end purchases through the end of this year with MR, next year with MR no longer having the SW license my collecting dollars can be re-allocated.

Mister_Gosh
07-30-2007, 12:11 AM
That is what I'm counting on as well. This is not being released until 2nd Qtr 2008, so I have time to fit R2 into next year's budget. I have a full compliment of high end purchases through the end of this year with MR, next year with MR no longer having the SW license my collecting dollars can be re-allocated.



The flex-pay schedule even mentions "place order by Feb 18, 2008". I'm sure that's not a guarantee or anything, but I'd think that they'd want to keep it on sale at least that long given the wording.

Anonymous01
07-30-2007, 04:12 PM
I think the R2 looks good, but seeing C-3PO in person really didn't do much for me. And I've also seen the original prop, so I'm not too impressed. Looks like these haven't changed at all since they were unveiled at Comic-Con in 2006. I'd love to have a life-size 3PO, but for $6K it needs to have a bit more shine to it.

In fact, I think I'd be more interested in a "shiny" version than the weathered. Was it ever confirmed that there would be 2 versions? That seems doubtful...

Mister_Gosh
07-30-2007, 06:09 PM
I think the R2 looks good, but seeing C-3PO in person really didn't do much for me. And I've also seen the original prop, so I'm not too impressed.



Which prop? The one that's been on tour lately was from ROTS. The photos I've seen from SDCC so far have matched up well to the film references I've compared them to, which wasn't true of the SDCC '06 version.




In fact, I think I'd be more interested in a "shiny" version than the weathered. Was it ever confirmed that there would be 2 versions? That seems doubtful...



They are saying no to two versions. The reason the rumor persists is because:
1) The versions at C4 were not weathered and 3PO in particular was really shiny
2) There's a new "battle damaged"/weathered T-800 Endo which was preceded by a pristine/shiny version.

DarthInwah
08-03-2007, 02:00 PM
I think the R2 looks good, but seeing C-3PO in person really didn't do much for me. And I've also seen the original prop, so I'm not too impressed.



Which prop? The one that's been on tour lately was from ROTS. The photos I've seen from SDCC so far have matched up well to the film references I've compared them to, which wasn't true of the SDCC '06 version.




In fact, I think I'd be more interested in a "shiny" version than the weathered. Was it ever confirmed that there would be 2 versions? That seems doubtful...



They are saying no to two versions. The reason the rumor persists is because:
1) The versions at C4 were not weathered and 3PO in particular was really shiny
2) There's a new "battle damaged"/weathered T-800 Endo which was preceded by a pristine/shiny version.



Wow, this is extremely disappointing. In my opinion, they should never have shown the shiny version. This only makes us want one more. I don't blame them though. If you've read any threads on vac metallizing things, it's extremely expensive. It's probably why the Don Post 3-PO shot up in price so much.

Still, they should not have ever showed the shiny pristine 3PO knowing that it'd be too expensive and that fans would want one. $6k for a vac metal lifesize 3PO is a steal!!! I would get one in a second if they did that! As it it, I may go bootleg route and vac metal myself, although it is a pain and expensive to get done!

Tweekem
08-04-2007, 08:09 AM
A huge kudos to those that can muster the $$ to nab one or both of these... I would love to have one but it would crush my budget.

Some where over the rainbow..........

DarkKnight2k4
08-06-2007, 01:10 PM
I ordered mine !!!
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Not !!!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

ZVSITH
08-07-2007, 01:55 AM
I have a lifesize weathered threepio thats fan made. It was froma kit similar to goldenarmor.com and it cost me $2500.00. That artoo would be pretty sweet to display next to him. That is if I can muster the $$$$$$$

DarkKnight2k4
08-07-2007, 01:47 PM
I have a lifesize weathered threepio thats fan made. It was froma kit similar to goldenarmor.com and it cost me $2500.00. That artoo would be pretty sweet to display next to him. That is if I can muster the $$$$$$$



Got pics bro ?

ZVSITH
08-07-2007, 07:39 PM
yep, look up my member gallery, i posted some on there. I won this on ebay and it was shipped from Norway.

DarkKnight2k4
08-08-2007, 03:00 PM
Man ! God Bless you !!! That is amazing !!!!! Congrats !

ZVSITH
08-08-2007, 07:15 PM
thanks bud! ive been tempted to get him plated but the weathering is really cool

DarkKnight2k4
08-10-2007, 12:33 PM
I agree... I guess it"s just a matter of what you like better.

But then again... once you decide, there is no turning back !

ZVSITH
08-13-2007, 01:12 AM
true true, thats why i've held out on the plating.lol. ill shoot for r2 first and see what happens

DarkKnight2k4
08-13-2007, 11:29 AM
Please share the updates, I would love to see it.

qwa_raig
08-24-2007, 01:25 PM
Man, I would love to say that I would be picking these up, but they're going to be out of my price range for at least a couple more years.

Shadow
08-24-2007, 04:59 PM
Now that the MR X-Wing Studio Scale has been officially canceled it has freed up the funds I would have been using this winter for MR. With no new MR purchases next year, only Sideshow, I've decided I will go ahead and pick up the R2 unit. MRs loss will now be Sideshows win with my collecting funds.

DarthInwah
08-24-2007, 05:22 PM
Now that the MR X-Wing Studio Scale has been officially canceled it has freed up the funds I would have been using this winter for MR. With no new MR purchases next year, only Sideshow, I've decided I will go ahead and pick up the R2 unit. MRs loss will now be Sideshows win with my collecting funds.



not a bad consolation prize!!!!

Leia_Way
09-01-2007, 12:57 AM
Unfortunately, I would have to sell my first-born son to pay for these, and I just can't bring myself to part with the little guy. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Anonymous01
09-01-2007, 10:38 PM
I'm on the fence. I would really like a life-size 3PO...

skoota73
12-01-2007, 02:07 AM
i was staring at the r2 and noticed something,...

look at the "mouth" directly beneath the dome and notice the upper blue "lip".

on the sideshow model, this lip protrudes, whereas on the real r2 model,... it's flush with the rest of the body.

can anyone confirm this? please forgive me if i didn't make any sense.


on another note,... does anyone think that with sideshow collectibles creating the c3-p0 & r2-d2 full scale props, it's created a rift between lucasfilm and master replicas? perhaps master replicas wanted to create all the props while sideshow stuck with scaled figures? i noticed that sideshow does NOT mention these as "prop replicas" but as "full size figures."

just asking and wanted see if conversation ensues.

SirTristram
12-01-2007, 12:47 PM
i was staring at the r2 and noticed something,...

look at the "mouth" directly beneath the dome and notice the upper blue "lip".

on the sideshow model, this lip protrudes, whereas on the real r2 model,... it's flush with the rest of the body.

can anyone confirm this? please forgive me if i didn't make any sense.


on another note,... does anyone think that with sideshow collectibles creating the c3-p0 & r2-d2 full scale props, it's created a rift between lucasfilm and master replicas? perhaps master replicas wanted to create all the props while sideshow stuck with scaled figures? i noticed that sideshow does NOT mention these as "prop replicas" but as "full size figures."

just asking and wanted see if conversation ensues.



No way...No rift between them. MR simply missed the boat on the large scale stuff. At their height, they could have asked to do almost anything with LFL, but they chose not to. LFL would have let them do that stuff....even a Han in Carbonite or that talk of a fairly large scale Star Destroyer, remember? No wayu...Sideshow is a much larger and more efficient company in terms of go-getting and driving their licenses. ...They also have a fairly decent pulse on when to drop a license that is not moving too well.
MR just seems like the old Galactic Senate....bogged down in politicing and compromise.

skoota73
12-01-2007, 04:49 PM
^^^ it's a shame. i have more confidence in master replicas to do these large scale props. sideshow? not so sure.

anyone have any answers on the "mouth-upper lip" concern on the sideshow r2?

SirTristram
12-01-2007, 05:28 PM
^^^ it's a shame. i have more confidence in master replicas to do these large scale props. sideshow? not so sure.

anyone have any answers on the "mouth-upper lip" concern on the sideshow r2?



Why? What makes you lack confidence in SSC? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Their 1:1 T-800 is amazing! Their extraordinarily expensive Robby the Robot is top notch and designed by the same guy that designed the R2 and 3PO for them.

DarthPotts1975
12-01-2007, 07:08 PM
i have complete confidence in SS

skoota73
12-01-2007, 07:52 PM
^^^ it's a shame. i have more confidence in master replicas to do these large scale props. sideshow? not so sure.

anyone have any answers on the "mouth-upper lip" concern on the sideshow r2?



Why? What makes you lack confidence in SSC? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Their 1:1 T-800 is amazing! Their extraordinarily expensive Robby the Robot is top notch and designed by the same guy that designed the R2 and 3PO for them.




as a collector of master replicas, i have come to know what to expect. my only experience with sideshow is with the 12" figures. i just associate that quality and imperfect craftmanship with their full-scale line (sculpts and paint jobs).

i just need to take a dip and see what they've done, prop-wise.

SirTristram
12-02-2007, 12:52 AM
^^^ it's a shame. i have more confidence in master replicas to do these large scale props. sideshow? not so sure.

anyone have any answers on the "mouth-upper lip" concern on the sideshow r2?



Why? What makes you lack confidence in SSC? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Their 1:1 T-800 is amazing! Their extraordinarily expensive Robby the Robot is top notch and designed by the same guy that designed the R2 and 3PO for them.




as a collector of master replicas, i have come to know what to expect. my only experience with sideshow is with the 12" figures. i just associate that quality and imperfect craftmanship with their full-scale line (sculpts and paint jobs).

i just need to take a dip and see what they've done, prop-wise.



That is unwise. As a collector of many things, I collect most Sideshow pieces...and I have all sorts of their brands....I mostly collect their high end statuary....They have my full confidence...More so than MR would and I trust(ed) MR about as much!

Mister_Gosh
12-02-2007, 04:07 AM
No way...No rift between them. MR simply missed the boat on the large scale stuff. At their height, they could have asked to do almost anything with LFL, but they chose not to. LFL would have let them do that stuff....even a Han in Carbonite or that talk of a fairly large scale Star Destroyer, remember? No wayu...Sideshow is a much larger and more efficient company in terms of go-getting and driving their licenses. ...They also have a fairly decent pulse on when to drop a license that is not moving too well.
MR just seems like the old Galactic Senate....bogged down in politicing and compromise.




I'm a touch confused by this attitude. MR made a *ton* of stuff...doesn't look to me like they remotely rested on their laurels or anything. Just because they didn't make a Han in Carbonite or some 1:1 droids, they're "bogged down"? Really?

Don't get me wrong, Sideshow is great, but they've done what...eight PFs? Four 1:1 Busts? It's not exactly like they're "doing anything" either...they're just making different choices as to what they want to do at the high end.

SirTristram
12-02-2007, 11:13 AM
No way...No rift between them. MR simply missed the boat on the large scale stuff. At their height, they could have asked to do almost anything with LFL, but they chose not to. LFL would have let them do that stuff....even a Han in Carbonite or that talk of a fairly large scale Star Destroyer, remember? No wayu...Sideshow is a much larger and more efficient company in terms of go-getting and driving their licenses. ...They also have a fairly decent pulse on when to drop a license that is not moving too well.
MR just seems like the old Galactic Senate....bogged down in politicing and compromise.




I'm a touch confused by this attitude. MR made a *ton* of stuff...doesn't look to me like they remotely rested on their laurels or anything. Just because they didn't make a Han in Carbonite or some 1:1 droids, they're "bogged down"? Really?

Don't get me wrong, Sideshow is great, but they've done what...eight PFs? Four 1:1 Busts? It's not exactly like they're "doing anything" either...they're just making different choices as to what they want to do at the high end.



Sideshow has made a hell of a lot more than that...just not with their Star Wars brand.
I was speaking to the vigor of the company and what they produce as a whole.
My point of view with MR is that they did indeed get bogged down by a few things, granted - some of which were beyond their control....But there lack of ability to decide (along with LFL, I suppose) to produce higher-end pieces coupled with their ability to produce them was hampered internally, it seems, by lack of vision or compromise.
And in my humble opinion, the Corgi marriage (Corgi wears the pants in that family) MR lost a lot essential elements to be a truly unique, high-end collectibles company. Not least of which was the ability to come to a deal with LFL. It ovisouly can be done...they were doing it for years as MR and a new company will work something out, so it is a shame they (Corgi) could not. Sideshow is able to carry so many licesnes at once....Incuding Marvel, LOTR and the Mother of all licenses, Star Wars. It's not that I think MR 'couldn't' do those things, I have begged for years for them to push the envelope and get past Sabers, Blasters and Models, but something seriously fought that direction change and that had to be internally at MR. Especially since LFL clearly is not opposed to a licensee producing large scale 1:1 chracters pieces.
Things obviously changed at MR. There is no ambiguity there. We're just not privy to all the gritty specifics.

skoota73
12-02-2007, 01:03 PM
the reason i brought up the master replicas / lucasfilm rift was because i had read somewhere that master replicas had announced doing a non-RC r2 unit in summer 2006.

we know what the deal is now and i wonder if master replicas walked away because of that?

just wondering, that's all. please do not take offense if i am wrong. i am not claiming to know it all. just asking.

SirTristram
12-02-2007, 02:39 PM
MR definitely did not 'walk away' becuase of SSC producing 1:1 droids.
There was a very clear business dicision made regarding licensing cost vs. profitability and MR (Corgi) decided that it was not in there overall company's best interest to re-up their contract with LFL.
LFL gives (sells) their Star Wars brand license to many companies and some of the are granted permission to make the same 'kinds' of products.
SSC wanted to make 1:1 characters and they were granted the rights to do so...MR could have done it as well, they just chose not to for whatever reason.
I say let the companies complete...that way the best product gets out to the consumers/fans.
It is long overdue for a decent set of 1:1 scale chracters from the Star Wars trilogy. SSC will make a great set, but with no RC and interctive aspect, there is much room for improvement and yet ANOTHER company to come in and take hold of that flame and thunder away at an ultra high-end version of these droids that actually move...then the next progression would be to interact...The small version of R@ that is currently available is a perfect example. IT ACTUALLY WORKS! The next evolution would be to make it full-size and interactive. I will most likely get the SSC pieces to tide me over, but long for the day when that interactive technology that is out there incorporates with the 1:1 models and produces as close to a real R2 and 3PO as we could ever hope for!

DarthPotts1975
12-02-2007, 03:50 PM
has anybody here actually placed an order yet?

i'm still trying to decide if i'm going to take the plunge. getting just one of them isnt an option for me. i would have to get both of them. obviously cost is a big factor for me. i think i have about $6000+ in GG,MR,SS and other preorders that will be coming in the next few months. i have plans on finishing my 1700 sq ft SW basement within the next year. if i get thew droids it will push my basement back atleast a year. not to mention the family wants a in ground pool.

decisions...decisions.... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

SirTristram
12-02-2007, 05:04 PM
has anybody here actually placed an order yet?

i'm still trying to decide if i'm going to take the plunge. getting just one of them isnt an option for me. i would have to get both of them. obviously cost is a big factor for me. i think i have about $6000+ in GG,MR,SS and other preorders that will be coming in the next few months. i have plans on finishing my 1700 sq ft SW basement within the next year. if i get thew droids it will push my basement back atleast a year. not to mention the family wants a in ground pool.

decisions...decisions.... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



o, I am definitley in for the R2, but I wanted to wait and see on the 3PO before I make any (other) rash decisions! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

skoota73
12-02-2007, 07:20 PM
i want an r2 so badly. something i've always wanted ever since i can remember.

only thing though is,... need to get a new car, refurb the bathroom, get a new computer to replace the relic i'm on right now and get sod for the front yard. plus my wife will give me the stinkeye and make me feel guilty for not investing that money in my son's college fund. and getting her stuff.

and my adding this will kinda cramp my fun/office room. it kinda wouldn't belong aesthetically. got a midcentury modern thing going on with eames furniture.

Mister_Gosh
12-02-2007, 11:54 PM
Sideshow has made a hell of a lot more than that...just not with their Star Wars brand.
I was speaking to the vigor of the company and what they produce as a whole.



Right, so it's a little unfair to compare a company that started as a one-license show (and a tiny company) to one that had been chugging along quite happily without the Star Wars license at all before they got it. If you're going to compare apples to apples, it's only fair that you look at what the two companies have got going with just the one license, otherwise you're comparing the *potential* things Sideshow might do with Star Wars (based on what they've done with other properties) with the *actual* things MR managed to do in five years, including the time they were just getting off the ground.




My point of view with MR is that they did indeed get bogged down by a few things, granted - some of which were beyond their control....But there lack of ability to decide (along with LFL, I suppose) to produce higher-end pieces coupled with their ability to produce them was hampered internally, it seems, by lack of vision or compromise.



I'm confused by this. Ignore the license renewal for a moment. What "higher-end" items do you think they weren't able to get off the ground out of sheer lack of will vs. timing and engineering issues?
I mean, I look at their track record and see some *serious* risk-taking. They took a product category that flat *failed* before and made it successful (it's hard to remember this now, but prop replicas were indeed a *risky* idea in a post-Icons world). They were the first licencee in a while to break the $1000 barrier with the AT-AT and the $3000 barrier with the SE Falcon. Sure, *today* these are all now "safe" things for someone to do, but I submit that without MR having done them, there would be some serious skepticism about them.



And in my humble opinion, the Corgi marriage (Corgi wears the pants in that family) MR lost a lot essential elements to be a truly unique, high-end collectibles company. Not least of which was the ability to come to a deal with LFL.



I think it's fair to assume that if Corgi+MR couldn't come to an agreement, that MR on their own wouldn't have either, but I suspect this part of the discussion will be somewhat non-productive (and isn't really that important anyway, because we'll never know what a post-merger company would have done).



It ovisouly can be done...they were doing it for years as MR and a new company will work something out, so it is a shame they (Corgi) could not.



Note that MR only negotiated a successful deal exactly once: at the start of their license. I stand by the theory that, given the CEO was the same pre and post merger, that if renewal was the wrong business decision for the merged entity, that there's no way it could have been the right one for the (smaller) pre-merger entity. Corgi brought assets (tangible and otherwise) with them. It's safe to assume that the new company was better able to absorb fiscal risk, not less (else, there was no reason to merge).




It's not that I think MR 'couldn't' do those things, I have begged for years for them to push the envelope and get past Sabers, Blasters and Models, but something seriously fought that direction change and that had to be internally at MR.



I think external forces would have fought it too if your vision had been successful. I for one would have been irritated if the sabers and models had been put on a back burner to make room for 1:1 figures or something. It turns out that the reason that MR sold those things is that *people liked them and bought them*. Given that, it seems out of left field to call them out for making stuff people wanted instead of stuff the majority of their existing audience couldn't afford.



Especially since LFL clearly is not opposed to a licensee producing large scale 1:1 chracters pieces.



And I think it's irrational to assume any one licensee is going to turn out 1:1 characters *and* a substantial prop line *and* studio scale items. Moreover I think it's a *good thing* to have some diversity in that respect. I'm *very* comfortable with the idea that Sideshow's got the 1:1 character angle covered. They've got the right business to do that market segment justice (and the experience to know how to pace things for their production pipeline and their customers' wallets). By that token, if Sideshow were to take a stab at the prop replica license, I would have deeply mixed feelings. On the one hand, I would be enthusiastic, because I think they'd do good stuff with the category, but on the other hand, I'd worry that it would be an overextension for them.

I was really pretty happy with the way the "holy trinity" of MR, Sideshow and GG had the market partitioned up. That kind of license diversification makes it really simple for each licensee to pick one thing and do it really well, and I think MR did exactly that. It's not that I disagree with you that Sideshow is great, because they clearly are. I just disagree with the notion that because MR was really successful with their portion of the license, that that is somehow bad.

Mister_Gosh
12-02-2007, 11:58 PM
has anybody here actually placed an order yet?



I've got an order in for R2. They haven't yet contacted me about the deposit. They say "late 2007" for that, but there isn't much "late 2007" left. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I haven't yet committed to 3PO. More than any other items I've ever preordered, I want to be *absolutely sure* I have the cash set aside before I grab these guys. It'll be a little while longer before I can be sure that I *will* have that cash for 3PO as well.

SirTristram
12-02-2007, 11:59 PM
.....Yeah...Wow. Didn't even read that one. Too late and I actually don't what care anymore. I forgot what we were even discussing.
At the end of the day none of it matters anyway. MR and Star Wars are dead. SSC is still rockin' (10 years and counting) and finally...Finally, a new set of droids are being released.
All is well. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Mister_Gosh
12-03-2007, 12:00 AM
.....Yeah...Wow. Didn't even read that one. Too late and I actually don't what care anymore. I forgot what we were even discussing.
At the end of the day none of it matters anyway. MR and Star Wars are dead. SSC is still rockin' (10 years and counting) and finally...Finally, a new set of droids are being released.
All is well. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Aw man...did you really just TLDR me? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I kept it civil and everything. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SirTristram
12-03-2007, 12:14 AM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif Aww! I'm not ancient or anything but I don't even know what that means! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
The only ones I use are LOL and LOTR. Other than that, I can't keep it real...only oblivious! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Mister_Gosh
12-03-2007, 01:26 PM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif Aww! I'm not ancient or anything but I don't even know what that means! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
The only ones I use are LOL and LOTR. Other than that, I can't keep it real...only oblivious! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Heh.
TLDR ="Too Long, Didn't Read."

deathstar1000
12-03-2007, 02:52 PM
LOTR.



Lord of the Rings???

SirTristram
12-03-2007, 04:37 PM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif Aww! I'm not ancient or anything but I don't even know what that means! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
The only ones I use are LOL and LOTR. Other than that, I can't keep it real...only oblivious! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Heh.
TLDR ="Too Long, Didn't Read."



Oh, nice! I didn't know that one! LOL! Thanks, I feel like I learn more On-line and 'Texting' code every day!
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SirTristram
12-03-2007, 04:38 PM
LOTR.



Lord of the Rings???



Yep....Oh, and I seem to be using MR a lot lately to shorten Master Replicas.

Jedinate
12-03-2007, 09:25 PM
I actually ordered both of these at the end of summer when I got back from SDCC. They looked great in person and I'm sure the finished product will look even better then the prototype. The lights on these pieces are great and look much better then the old Don Post one's wich was just a lightbulb in the dome and head. For the money it isn't a bad deal, considering Don Post wanted $7k and $12k for R2 and 3PO.

SirTristram
12-03-2007, 09:32 PM
I actually ordered both of these at the end of summer when I got back from SDCC. They looked great in person and I'm sure the finished product will look even better then the prototype. The lights on these pieces are great and look much better then the old Don Post one's wich was just a lightbulb in the dome and head. For the money it isn't a bad deal, considering Don Post wanted $7k and $12k for R2 and 3PO.



I agree, I think they look amazing...although I have not decided how I feel about a dirty 3PO vs. a pristine version. R2 I like anyway...probably weathered more than pristine, but 3Po looks good as a 'Golden Rod'!!!

I just wish they could have included some sort of RC. At least with R2's dome and 3PO's arms and head! That would have even been enough if not full fledged RC for R2!
I wonder if they have engineered them to be upgradeable!?!?

Shadow
12-08-2007, 02:59 PM
has anybody here actually placed an order yet?


I'm fully in for the R2 unit. I've got my vendor picked out and am going to place my order the first part of next month. SS has become my new MR.

yodasan
12-08-2007, 07:00 PM
Vendor?

Ham_Solo
12-08-2007, 07:30 PM
[self-inflicted jedi mind trick] I must...stick...with GG...only! [/self-inflicted jedi mind trick]

Shadow
12-08-2007, 07:46 PM
Vendor?


Dark Shadow Collectibles; much less expensive for me than going through SS direct.

skoota73
12-08-2007, 08:01 PM
can anyone buy the r2 for me?

'fraid i'm not able to pay for it myself.

i will give you the biggest hug ever.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SirTristram
12-08-2007, 08:31 PM
Vendor?


Dark Shadow Collectibles; much less expensive for me than going through SS direct.



Are they offering Free Shipping?

Shadow
12-08-2007, 08:50 PM
Vendor?


Dark Shadow Collectibles; much less expensive for me than going through SS direct.



Are they offering Free Shipping?


$5.00 for shipping, so basicly YES. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DarthPotts1975
12-08-2007, 09:35 PM
i assumed these were a SS exclusive. i never even thought to ask my AD.

Darth_Finger
12-08-2007, 11:06 PM
[self-inflicted jedi mind trick] I must...stick...with GG...only! [/self-inflicted jedi mind trick]



You must do what you feel is right, ofcourse http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

SirTristram
12-09-2007, 12:21 AM
Vendor?


Dark Shadow Collectibles; much less expensive for me than going through SS direct.



Are they offering Free Shipping?


$5.00 for shipping, so basicly YES. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Yeah, I was going to ask if their basic $5 shipping applied to these...but their price is about the same...isn't it? I have not looked at that site for a while. When the price is not that much a different, I usually go with the company making the piece.

yodasan
12-09-2007, 12:42 AM
Vendor?


Dark Shadow Collectibles; much less expensive for me than going through SS direct.



Doh! I assumed it was only available through SS given the high cost.
Time to visit the DSC website...that $5 shipping cost is...interesting.

yodasan
12-09-2007, 12:54 AM
Yeah, I was going to ask if their basic $5 shipping applied to these...but their price is about the same...isn't it? I have not looked at that site for a while. When the price is not that much a different, I usually go with the company making the piece.



A difference of $540 seems worth going trhough an AD- Dark Shadow Collectibles is reputable IIRC.

Anyone hear of any other AD offering the R2?

Mister_Gosh
12-09-2007, 04:03 AM
A difference of $540 seems worth going trhough an AD- Dark Shadow Collectibles is reputable IIRC.



The deposit requirement appears to be similar, though not identical (Sideshow hasn't yet taken the deposits, but DSC will apparently take it the second you order).

I guess the other questions to answer are:
1) Can they order an arbitrary number of these, or will there be allocations? Put another way, will they guarantee that every order will be satisfied?
2) What's the return policy on these via DSC? Sideshow's policy doesn't have them taking returns directly on items from Resellers. On an item like this, the return/replacement policy is of paramount importance. I'm less-than-thrilled that order/return policy isn't spelled out on the site.
3) When will orders via DSC ship out compared with an order placed directly from SSC?

Shadow
12-09-2007, 11:54 AM
Because I live in the same state as SS, the difference in price for me is almost exactly $1000 less going through Dark Shadows because of the sales tax involved and the AD discount. That is an economic no brainer for where I should order it.

SirTristram
12-09-2007, 01:31 PM
I also may not be able to order it outright, therefore my beloved Flex-Pay option will need to be utilized!

yodasan
12-09-2007, 01:55 PM
I guess the other questions to answer are:
1) Can they order an arbitrary number of these, or will there be allocations? Put another way, will they guarantee that every order will be satisfied?
2) What's the return policy on these via DSC? Sideshow's policy doesn't have them taking returns directly on items from Resellers. On an item like this, the return/replacement policy is of paramount importance. I'm less-than-thrilled that order/return policy isn't spelled out on the site.
3) When will orders via DSC ship out compared with an order placed directly from SSC?



I believe SS requires a deposit starting in January, so not much difference
from DSC. Your other questions are good. Regarding the return policy
it is hard to imagine sending these back due to their size but if
one were to arrive with broken parts then it could be important enough
to warrant the trouble.

Shadow
12-09-2007, 03:22 PM
I also may not be able to order it outright; therefore my beloved Flex-Pay option will need to be utilized!


Being out of state the sales tax issue wouldn't affect you. The Flex-Pay option is great on something like this; even setting the same payments in the savings each month for the same time period is not quite the same.

As for the questions about whether it is 'safe' to get something this large from an AD; we've been buying high priced MR items from ADs for how long? I don't see how purchasing high end SS will be that much of a difference from a reputable AD. I usually buy from SS direct because of their close physical proximity to me which results in next day deliveries being the standard, but in this case $1000 in overall cost savings on one item alone is not insignificant.

Mister_Gosh
12-09-2007, 03:43 PM
As for the questions about whether it is 'safe' to get something this large from an AD; we've been buying high priced MR items from ADs for how long? I don't see how purchasing high end SS will be that much of a difference from a reputable AD.



Have you purchased Sideshow stuff from DSC before? Have you done a return through them? I'm not being confontational, I'm just exploring this avenue. While I won't get stung for the sales tax you are, I am still toying with the idea of picking up both droids, so the combined price difference *is* attractive so long as I can be sure that I'll get the item(s) and that I'm covered in case of a return. Given the size of the items, it isn't unreasonable to be concerned that even a "reputable" dealer may not be prepared to handle a replacement, especially when said dealer doesn't lay out their terms and conditions on their website.

Shadow
12-09-2007, 04:16 PM
As for the questions about whether it is 'safe' to get something this large from an AD; we've been buying high priced MR items from ADs for how long? I don't see how purchasing high end SS will be that much of a difference from a reputable AD.



Have you purchased Sideshow stuff from DSC before? Have you done a return through them? I'm not being confontational, I'm just exploring this avenue. While I won't get stung for the sales tax you are, I am still toying with the idea of picking up both droids, so the combined price difference *is* attractive so long as I can be sure that I'll get the item(s) and that I'm covered in case of a return. Given the size of the items, it isn't unreasonable to be concerned that even a "reputable" dealer may not be prepared to handle a replacement, especially when said dealer doesn't lay out their terms and conditions on their website.



We are just discussing, no worries. I do have an existing SS order through DSC for a 12" figure, nothing even remotely close to the cost of a droid though and I haven't had to deal with any returns yet. My original point really is back to the wisdom of buying from any AD versus the manufacturer direct. My experiences have been good so far, so I'm less inclined to be worried about it. If it weren't for the taxes making such a price difference on this item I would probably be buying direct using the Flex-Pay option, but the overall difference in price is making me take a pause this time.

yodasan
12-09-2007, 04:45 PM
Mister_gosh - have you asked DSC about their return policy on the
R2 and 3PO specifically?

Mister_Gosh
12-09-2007, 05:01 PM
Mister_gosh - have you asked DSC about their return policy on the
R2 and 3PO specifically?



I haven't. I was just casting about for any data 'round these parts first. I'll likely contact them Monday to see what they have to say.

yodasan
12-09-2007, 06:24 PM
If you would be willing to share what you learn I would be interested to hear.

Mister_Gosh
12-10-2007, 01:15 AM
If you would be willing to share what you learn I would be interested to hear.



But of course.

Late addendum:
Okay, so there *is* a link to their policies on their site, but it's hiddin among the *product* links instead of down with the informational links. Here's the direct link. (http://store.darkshadowcollectibles.com/policys.html)

Interestingly, they say the following troubling things. In the "Returns" section:
"You will not be refunded your shipping costs. Please note - return shipping and insurance are the responsibility of the buyer."
and in Damaged/Defective/Warranty:
"Because of the large volume of products shipped each day, it is impossible for Dark Shadow Collectibles, Inc. to check each and every individual product prior to shipping. As such, every item is assumed to have left the factory in new condition."

Now, that second part isn't really a big deal, It's unusual for an AD to open and inspect items (and it isn't clearly desirable for them to do so anyway). What bothers me is that there's no addendum about return shipping for damage/defect/warranty returns. I've got an e-mail out to them for clarification, but at the moment it does seem like you'd have to eat the return shipping (I suppose you'd technically have to eat the other direction too, but that's $5)

Mister_Gosh
12-11-2007, 12:54 AM
Okay, they clarified that for damage/defect returns, they will cover shipping. That still leaves "just not happy with it" returns as being something that would the customer would have to handle, which is in-line with how Sideshow does things.
They did also verify that the $5 shipping is for real on the droids.
So basically the main differences between ordering direct and at DSC appear to be:
1) Price
2) Return-for-refund/replacement timing (30 days for SSC, 7 days for DSC or 14 days if you want store credit)
3) No Flex-pay via DSC.

So, if we don't get into an allocation situation, it seems to me like a pretty good deal (and a no-brainer if you have to cough up tax on a direct purchase), provided you're not one of those folks who lets something sit in a carton "until the display area is ready", because 7 days isn't really very long. I'm not a fan of Flex-pay, so that's a non-issue for me.

Additionally, and I'm speculating here, I would guess that DSC almost certainly will have these drop-shipped from Sideshow, rather than physically taking them into inventory (though I forgot to ask this), so that should mean that the time-to-deliver will be identical to a Sideshow direct purchase (though it wouldn't be totally unreasonable if they were to give manufacturing priority to early pre-order direct purchases over ADs).

SirTristram
12-11-2007, 01:24 AM
If I can fidn 5K to drop at once, I will go through them...I have used them before and they have always served me well.

Flex-Pay will make it easier, but more expensive...but that may be my only option if I cannot hit the card for 5K at once.

yodasan
12-12-2007, 12:29 AM
Thanks Mister_Gosh - DSC does sound like the way to go for us in CA.
If I could just find that $5K that I misplaced...

Shadow
12-12-2007, 12:42 AM
Thanks Mister_Gosh as well. Did you contact DSC via email or did you call them? I have some further questions posed here to ask, so I'm just wondering what is the best way.

Mister_Gosh
12-12-2007, 04:52 AM
I e-mailed. They got back to me towards the end of the day.

bac
12-12-2007, 07:04 PM
DSC sounds like the way to go for everyone, not just CA.

Has anyone taken the plunge yet? I'm very close to canceling my SSC R2 pre-order and moving it to DSC...

Mister_Gosh
12-13-2007, 12:13 AM
DSC sounds like the way to go for everyone, not just CA.

Has anyone taken the plunge yet? I'm very close to canceling my SSC R2 pre-order and moving it to DSC...



I'm still on the fence. Since I'm not paying tax, the savings is ~$500 on R2 or ~$1100 on the pair (if I decide to go with both). However, the Sideshow points for these come out to $270 for R2 or $570 for the pair, and since I buy from Sideshow directly so often, that's not theoretical money back. Given that, the savings drops to around $230 for R2 and around $500 for the pair, which may not pass my threshold for working with an AD.

That's not to say I don't think it's a good deal or would try to talk someone out of it...I may well still jump on this, it's just that the economics of it may not quite work out for me (for example, I have no *personal* experience with DSC, so I need to decide if I should make a multi-thousand dollar purchase my first transaction with them).

bac
12-13-2007, 01:17 PM
I don't buy Sideshow products often at all, so the points don't necessarily factor into my decision. A few hundred bucks is a few hundred bucks. I'll probably pull the trigger with DSC shortly.

Mister_Gosh
12-13-2007, 01:44 PM
I don't buy Sideshow products often at all, so the points don't necessarily factor into my decision. A few hundred bucks is a few hundred bucks. I'll probably pull the trigger with DSC shortly.



Yeah, that sounds totally like the right call, and I may yet do the same.

bac
12-13-2007, 10:34 PM
Trigger pulled with DSC on R2. For anyone interested, I have written confirmation one is reserved for me (no allocation issues), and it will drop-ship direct from Sideshow to my door.

SirTristram
12-13-2007, 11:22 PM
Trigger pulled with DSC on R2. For anyone interested, I have written confirmation one is reserved for me (no allocation issues), and it will drop-ship direct from Sideshow to my door.




Sweet! Congrats!

Ham_Solo
12-14-2007, 10:07 AM
Trigger pulled with DSC on R2. For anyone interested, I have written confirmation one is reserved for me (no allocation issues), and it will drop-ship direct from Sideshow to my door.



That's going to be a great centerpiece for your collection. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

bac
12-14-2007, 10:08 AM
Sweet! Congrats!



Thanks! Now I just have to find the time to finish building the room he's going to call home.

fyi for everyone: When I put him in my cart, the site said there was a quantity of only 2 left available. After I purchased mine, the quantity went down to one.

DarthInwah
12-14-2007, 12:14 PM
OT but looks like Fred Barton and Sideshow are at it again!

Lifesize Cylon:

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/behindtheshow/?page_id=4102

yodasan
12-14-2007, 12:32 PM
I'm waiting for the 1:1 Number 6 http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

DarthInwah
12-14-2007, 12:36 PM
I'm waiting for the 1:1 Number 6 http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif



;D

SirTristram
12-14-2007, 12:40 PM
OT but looks like Fred Barton and Sideshow are at it again!

Lifesize Cylon:

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/behindtheshow/?page_id=4102



That's encouraging! Bring on more large 1:1 scale pieces!!!

DarthPotts1975
12-15-2007, 06:10 PM
SS makes it very hard for me to only buy SW

Shadow
12-15-2007, 06:54 PM
SS makes it very hard for me to only buy SW


Agreed, while I can't personally justify diverting that much money for a non-SW purchase which is my main focus, if I did have the spare funds I would go after that Cylon as well. I love the new BSG and that Cylon is so cool!!!

Anonymous01
12-15-2007, 07:48 PM
Huh. I didn't know the life-size 3PO and R2 would be available outside of Sideshow. I've actually bought things from Dark Shadows before and found their service to be quite good.

bac
12-15-2007, 07:51 PM
Huh. I didn't know the life-size 3PO and R2 would be available outside of Sideshow. I've actually bought things from Dark Shadows before and found their service to be quite good.



I don't think anyone knew until DSC came up in this thread.

SirTristram
12-15-2007, 09:53 PM
Guys...Don't you look at other online shops? I have seen most of them offering these up for sale. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

bac
12-16-2007, 09:54 AM
You're right:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=SSC10472&mode=retail

SirTristram
12-16-2007, 12:07 PM
You're right:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=SSC10472&mode=retail



Yep, that was one of the other ones I was thinking of...There are more. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

yodasan
12-16-2007, 01:43 PM
Any with lower prices than DSC?

SirTristram
12-16-2007, 02:28 PM
Any with lower prices than DSC?



Not that I have seen. Though, fairly close.

Jedinate
12-19-2007, 05:34 PM
When you guys get ready to buy, hit me up I can get these in and probably be able to shave off a $100 bucks off the DSC's price. Just let me know. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

SirTristram
12-19-2007, 09:28 PM
When you guys get ready to buy, hit me up I can get these in and probably be able to shave off a $100 bucks off the DSC's price. Just let me know. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Hey, that's great! Thanks!

Turbowars
12-20-2007, 11:56 PM
5K seems too high for a static fiberglass droid. Seems like it should me motorized with a remote. The dome should at least be metal and turn.

Mister_Gosh
12-21-2007, 12:43 AM
5K seems too high for a static fiberglass droid. Seems like it should me motorized with a remote. The dome should at least be metal and turn.



Yeah, this has been discussed before. When I researched it, it looked like you were getting close to $5000 just to acquire the parts for a motorized and metal unit (depending on which options you want) and it could take you the better part of a year to get everything together (because the parts are typically done in small batches by hobbyists, not by companies). Then you'd have to put it together. I cast about to see if anyone thought they could build me something that would match Sideshow's offering for cheaper (or something more feature rich for around the same price), but didn't get a bite. I took that as strong evidence that the price is legitimate.

SirTristram
12-21-2007, 10:00 AM
...and the dome from Sideshow is metal....not fiberglass.

Mister_Gosh
12-29-2007, 05:31 AM
Semi-OT, but funny related story:

The other day, I got this random e-mail from Gentle Giant (which is odd, because I'm not much of a GG collector, but I must have done something to get on a customer notification list at some point). My wife and son and I were walking through the mall as I opened the thing up on my phone to figure out what the deal was. When I read the contents, I muttered something to the effect of "Oh, the R2 statue is cancelled." as I sorted it out (again, odd because I didn't have a preorder on the thing).

My wife stopped dead in her tracks, looking like someone just killed her dog and turned to me and said "What!? It is?". After a couple of confusing moments, I realized that she thought I was talking about the Sideshow 1:1 R2. Once I clarified the situation, she expressed her extreme relief and we carried on walking.

She's a keeper, that one.

deathstar1000
12-29-2007, 09:20 AM
She's a keeper, that one.



That she is!

Shadow
12-29-2007, 04:32 PM
She's a keeper, that one.



That she is!


No kidding, count yourself extremely blessed!!

yodasan
01-01-2008, 02:40 PM
Thanks Mister_Gosh as well. Did you contact DSC via email or did you call them? I have some further questions posed here to ask, so I'm just wondering what is the best way.



Shadow have you placed an order with DSC?

Shadow
01-01-2008, 06:36 PM
Based in part because of the current concerns over AD allocations with the MR Stormtrooper LE helmet I've decided to go with Sideshow direct for this one even though it will cost me more in the long run. I'm placing my order at the end of this week.

This is an important purchase and I don't need a repeat of the kind of uncertainty that we are currently having for such a major item.

DarthPotts1975
01-01-2008, 07:19 PM
i wonder what the final edition size on these will be?

Jedinate
01-01-2008, 08:07 PM
They will be much like the Lifesize terminator, they will keep producing them on a first come first serve basis and will end the production as they see fit or until they have fulfilled all their initial orders.

DarthPotts1975
01-01-2008, 09:30 PM
Based in part because of the current concerns over AD allocations with the MR Stormtrooper LE helmet I've decided to go with Sideshow direct for this one even though it will cost me more in the long run. I'm placing my order at the end of this week.

This is an important purchase and I don't need a repeat of the kind of uncertainty that we are currently having for such a major item.




i agree with a purchase like this ordering directly is the safest way to go. sometimes going the cheaper route ends up being more costly in the end

dont forget that you will also get about $270 in reward points http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Shadow
01-01-2008, 11:08 PM
Based in part because of the current concerns over AD allocations with the MR Stormtrooper LE helmet I've decided to go with Sideshow direct for this one even though it will cost me more in the long run. I'm placing my order at the end of this week.

This is an important purchase and I don't need a repeat of the kind of uncertainty that we are currently having for such a major item.




i agree with a purchase like this ordering directly is the safest way to go. sometimes going the cheaper route ends up being more costly in the end

dont forget that you will also get about $270 in reward points http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Your earlier post on this detail also was a factor in the final decision. I prefer to take the safe route on this on, I've literally been waiting 30 years for this opportunity.

Ham_Solo
01-01-2008, 11:09 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing these in person.

Let me know when you get them, Matt, and I'll make a little road trip. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BTW, please don't think that I'm inviting myself over. I would make a road trip only if the invitation was extended.

yodasan
01-02-2008, 12:08 AM
Based in part because of the current concerns over AD allocations with the MR Stormtrooper LE helmet I've decided to go with Sideshow direct for this one even though it will cost me more in the long run. I'm placing my order at the end of this week.

This is an important purchase and I don't need a repeat of the kind of uncertainty that we are currently having for such a major item.



Yes, really does make me have 2nd thoughts too.

theropod
01-02-2008, 12:28 AM
dont forget that you will also get about $270 in reward points http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif



That could nearly nab you an exclusive PF... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif
-theropod

yodasan
01-03-2008, 06:26 PM
Anyone know the size of the base for R2? and if he can be displayed without the base?

SirTristram
01-03-2008, 06:54 PM
Anyone know the size of the base for R2? and if he can be displayed without the base?



I don't know the size of the base, but last I heard he can be moved on or off the base.
The lights work with a 9V battery in his 'eye', so there are no wires outside of him that could have been connected to the base.

Shadow
01-03-2008, 07:09 PM
Okay, I bit and placed my order with SS direct today for the R2. Just waiting for them to contact me now and take my deposit.

I've wanted my own R2 unit my whole adult life and I'm not talented enough to build my own.

SirTristram
01-03-2008, 07:43 PM
Congrats Shadow! I am sure you will love....I know the feeling! It is a dream come true that a reputable company is making one!
I can't make things like that either...I am so glad that we can now just buy one!

yodasan
01-04-2008, 01:08 AM
Good for you Shadow! I'm still trying to decide on where to place the order.

Ham_Solo
01-04-2008, 07:38 AM
Alright, Shadow! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

DarthPotts1975
01-04-2008, 09:41 AM
congrats shadow!

my order isnt "official" yet but i hope to soon http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

yodasan
01-04-2008, 10:28 AM
I noticed the SS webpage for the flex-pay option for R2 seems to be saying
you need to order by Feb 18. That might be just an arbitrary date though.

SirTristram
01-04-2008, 12:01 PM
I noticed the SS webpage for the flex-pay option for R2 seems to be saying
you need to order by Feb 18. That might be just an arbitrary date though.



That just means to get it by the date on which the FlexPay schedule listed ends.
They won't ship it until it is paid in full.

yodasan
01-04-2008, 12:35 PM
So is there any cutoff for orders?

SirTristram
01-04-2008, 04:27 PM
So is there any cutoff for orders?



Eventually there will be, but not now!
They will most likely handle them as they did the T-800. That was up for order for about a year after it began to ship.
Then they just retired it.

Of course, they then issued the battle weathered version...Which I think *hope* they do the reverse in this case...
Currently, they are offering (ultimately decided to) weathered (as first met) Tattooine versions of R2 and 3PO....I hope they offer pristine pieces after these.
...although, I would rather have a weathered R2, but a pristine 3PO.
Aye Carumba!

Mister_Gosh
01-04-2008, 06:38 PM
Okay, I bit and placed my order with SS direct today for the R2. Just waiting for them to contact me now and take my deposit.

I've wanted my own R2 unit my whole adult life and I'm not talented enough to build my own.



Congrats. They still haven't taken my deposit and I ordered a couple months ago. So don't panic if you don't hear from them right away.

(and if you do hear from them right away, let me know!)

yodasan
01-04-2008, 06:50 PM
So you are ordering direct from SS too Mister_Gosh?

Mister_Gosh
01-04-2008, 06:59 PM
So you are ordering direct from SS too Mister_Gosh?


Yes. I considered dropping my preorder in favor of an AD price, but reconsidered for much the same reasons as Shadow.

Shadow
01-04-2008, 06:59 PM
Okay, I bit and placed my order with SS direct today for the R2. Just waiting for them to contact me now and take my deposit.

I've wanted my own R2 unit my whole adult life and I'm not talented enough to build my own.



Congrats. They still haven't taken my deposit and I ordered a couple months ago. So don't panic if you don't hear from them right away.

(and if you do hear from them right away, let me know!)


Okay, I just talked to Sideshow CS on the phone regarding our orders for the R2, how they are handling the deposits, etc. I really like working with these people they have CS down right.

The scoop is this, they won't be actually billing our deposits before February and we will receive emails from them before they do for the heads up to have the funds ready. The reason for the delay is they are waiting for the final approval from LFL on the final design, which they are expecting in February. Until then our orders are in a holding pattern. In February when they have the final approval they will be putting up new pictures on their website and sending out additional information and notices. The Flex-pay option will most likely be pushed back from the posted start in Feb to start in March if the deposit is not taken until Feb. and everything will just be pushed back one month for scheduling.

I am really looking forward to this one; this is the only piece that could take crown jewel of my collection status from my MR Falcon. Now they will both share that title.

Mister_Gosh
01-04-2008, 07:01 PM
Shadow, thanks much for the update!

yodasan
01-05-2008, 12:19 AM
Yes - thanks for the info Shadow.

SirTristram
01-05-2008, 12:30 AM
Oh good! Maybe LFL will tell them to make 3PO pristine again! (Or to issue two versions!)
I really liked the gleaming Gold version of him....R2 is great either way - weathered or pristine!

Mister_Gosh
01-05-2008, 12:39 AM
Oh good! Maybe LFL will tell them to make 3PO pristine again! (Or to issue two versions!)
I really liked the gleaming Gold version of him....R2 is great either way - weathered or pristine!



If we're going to see both variants, then I'd *vastly* prefer to have them up front, rather than seeing a weathered and pristine version spaced a year or so apart.
I seem to recall hearing in a podcast or on their website somewhere that they had said they weren't planning on repeating the T-800 situation with the droids.

I'm really of two minds on 3P0 specifically. On the one hand, a clean version like what we saw at C4 would be really great. On the other hand, dirty does feel more "Star Wars" to me in general, and I think the dirty version will look better next to the 1:1 Salacious Crumb.

yodasan
01-05-2008, 01:07 AM
Anyone know the size of the base for R2? and if he can be displayed without the base?



The starwars.com databank gives the height of R2 as 0.96m (unclear how
this is measured though) - looking at a picture of R2 suggests that the
maximum width across the legs is about 30 inches or so. I guess we'll
find out more in February when the final design pix are posted.

yodasan
01-05-2008, 01:08 AM
dont forget that you will also get about $270 in reward points http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif



These can be used toward the purchase price of the PF Biker Scout - right?

Mister_Gosh
01-05-2008, 01:52 AM
These can be used toward the purchase price of the PF Biker Scout - right?



Theoretically, yeah.

If you mean the points from the droids, though, it may not work as a practical matter. The points don't become yours to spend until 40 days after the item ships (to ensure that you can't spend the points and then return an item).

Additionally, using even 20 points ($1) on an item prevents you from earning points for that item. This makes the economics a bit more complex. If you buy from Sideshow regularly, it means that you should probably only spend points when it will cover the entire cost of an item (or when it will nearly cover the cost).

For example, let's say you have $200 worth of points banked. In 2008, you expect to buy the Biker Scout ($800) and four 12" figures (approx $240). If you used your points on the Biker, you'd pay a total of $840 in the year on purchases and have 240 points left over to show for it (from the 12" figures only). If you spread the points around over the 12" figures instead, you'd still spend $840, but you'd have *800* points at the end, almost four times what you had the other way.

StarWarsHelmets
01-05-2008, 05:58 AM
Okay, I just talked to Sideshow CS on the phone regarding our orders for the R2, how they are handling the deposits, etc. I really like working with these people they have CS down right.

The scoop is this, they won't be actually billing our deposits before February and we will receive emails from them before they do for the heads up to have the funds ready. The reason for the delay is they are waiting for the final approval from LFL on the final design, which they are expecting in February. Until then our orders are in a holding pattern. In February when they have the final approval they will be putting up new pictures on their website and sending out additional information and notices. The Flex-pay option will most likely be pushed back from the posted start in Feb to start in March if the deposit is not taken until Feb. and everything will just be pushed back one month for scheduling.

I am really looking forward to this one; this is the only piece that could take crown jewel of my collection status from my MR Falcon. Now they will both share that title.



This is interesting info. Now excuse me as I've not been close to this project (although am greatly interested - especially with the 3PO), but it prompts the following comments/concerns with regard to the 3PO......

1) The "Final design" will not be agreed until Feb. Therefore we do not know yet what the finish will be. I am PRESUMING that its going to be chromed, but has theis been confirmed? IMO it has GOT to be chromed - even if weathered if it is to be at all accurate. I know chroming and its complex!

2) Those who have ordered up front will not be charged anthing until Feb. I'm not sure on US law but in UK law this has certain ramifications. Basically its much easier to cancel an order before you've charged the person (anything), which leads me onto 3.

3) Now I would LOVE this to happen, as I personally see the rare-as-hell Don Post 3PO statue as one of my "holy grails". DP had a NIGHTMARE trying to make money on their run - which was cut well short following a price hike mid-production. Now SSC is charging a lot less than DP so my personal concern is that this project is far from guaranteed to happen, due to the commmercial realities of producing such a complex piece on such a small run.

Not wishing to alarm people but thought it worth considering.....

Cheers

Jez

Mister_Gosh
01-05-2008, 06:44 AM
1) The "Final design" will not be agreed until Feb. Therefore we do not know yet what the finish will be. I am PRESUMING that its going to be chromed, but has theis been confirmed? IMO it has GOT to be chromed - even if weathered if it is to be at all accurate. I know chroming and its complex!

2) Those who have ordered up front will not be charged anthing until Feb. I'm not sure on US law but in UK law this has certain ramifications. Basically its much easier to cancel an order before you've charged the person (anything), which leads me onto 3.

3) Now I would LOVE this to happen, as I personally see the rare-as-hell Don Post 3PO statue as one of my "holy grails". DP had a NIGHTMARE trying to make money on their run - which was cut well short following a price hike mid-production. Now SSC is charging a lot less than DP so my personal concern is that this project is far from guaranteed to happen, due to the commmercial realities of producing such a complex piece on such a small run.

Not wishing to alarm people but thought it worth considering.....

Cheers

Jez



Based on the information we have so far:

1) It'll be chromed. Weathered or not. The very first prototypes were painted, but everything they've shown from C4 on has been chromed and they haven't wavered on this position (that's not to say that they couldn't make a last minute change, but it seems unlikely given Sideshow's historically conservative approach to how they show work in progress). Moreover, the 1:1 T-800 was also chromed as I recall, so I think it's safe to say that they understand what they're getting into.

2) Nobody gets charged anything until the deposits are taken in February. Those who use FlexPay will then get charged on a monthly basis after that. Those who do not won't be charged the balance until the item ships. Deposit is non-refundable.

3) Again, SSC has historically been enormously conservative with respect to showing stuff that's in progress. My experience with them is that they don't show things unless the production pipeline is in place. In this case, it does sound like LFL has pushed back on the final designs, but it's mere speculation as to what that might mean. However, given their past history in general and their proven ability to get the quite complex 1:1 T-800 models out at this price point, I think we can be reasonably confident that they will hit their price point and get these made.

yodasan
01-05-2008, 06:38 PM
People think there will be fewer 3PO than R2 made/sold?

StarWarsHelmets
01-05-2008, 06:39 PM
Thanks for the info Mister_Gosh, I guess we'll see in Feb

I hope you are right!

Cheers

Jez

Shadow
01-05-2008, 06:50 PM
1) The "Final design" will not be agreed until Feb. Therefore we do not know yet what the finish will be. I am PRESUMING that its going to be chromed, but has theis been confirmed? IMO it has GOT to be chromed - even if weathered if it is to be at all accurate. I know chroming and its complex!

2) Those who have ordered up front will not be charged anthing until Feb. I'm not sure on US law but in UK law this has certain ramifications. Basically its much easier to cancel an order before you've charged the person (anything), which leads me onto 3.


They have been quite clear all along that there will be final images of the finished product posted before anyone gets charged. If something were to change with the final specifications or appearance this would give anyone with an order now a chance to cancel before they are charged the non-refundable deposit, having had a chance to approve the final product they are purchasing. This seems very fair to both sides, it is also allowing SS to gauge the interest in this product now. I doubt they would have let it go this far if there was any realistic chance the whole project was going to be canceled.

I am also in agreement with Mister_Gosh, with anything this expensive I would want to know before purchasing if there was going to be a pristine and weathered version offered. I would most likely want the weathered version anyways, but I would not want to make such a big purchase and then be left feeling like I was mislead on all of my options. I still think that was a mistake that MR made with the Studio Scale AT-AT, even though I still prefer the LE version, releasing the SE version so closely without any mention during the purchase period for the first version was not a good customer moment.

Shadow
01-05-2008, 06:56 PM
People think there will be fewer 3PO than R2 made/sold?


My gut feeling is yes, I would expect more sales for R2 than C3PO. C3PO is important but I think that R2 definitely edges him out on the coolness factor for the characters.

Mister_Gosh
01-05-2008, 06:59 PM
I still think that was a mistake that MR made with the Studio Scale AT-AT, even though I still prefer the LE version, releasing the SE version so closely without any mention during the purchase period for the first version was not a good customer moment.



Agreed, that was a misstep for MR on a couple of fronts. Offering two variants on essentially the same item so close was a mistake, and so was listening so closely to what the Resellers were demanding, given that in the end both the LE and SE sat around for a while.

Sideshow has a pretty solid track record of watching other companies make mistakes and not repeating them, though the T-800 was an odd situation. I can't really speak to it since it was only sort of on my radar, but I think I'd have been somewhat irritated to have an alternate deco version come out without being part of the initial solicitation.

DarthPotts1975
01-05-2008, 07:01 PM
dont forget that you will also get about $270 in reward points http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif



These can be used toward the purchase price of the PF Biker Scout - right?




the PF biker scout is sold out. it will probably be available as a 2nd chance offer like most other "sold out" SS stuff. then you would be able to use your points

yodasan
01-05-2008, 07:25 PM
dont forget that you will also get about $270 in reward points http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif



These can be used toward the purchase price of the PF Biker Scout - right?




the PF biker scout is sold out. it will probably be available as a 2nd chance offer like most other "sold out" SS stuff. then you would be able to use your points



I have it on preorder so not sure what you mean.

Mister_Gosh
01-05-2008, 07:41 PM
I have it on preorder so not sure what you mean.



You can only use points at the time of the order. You can't adjust the order to include them later. Since they won't be spendable until 40 days after the item(s) ship, then to apply them to the Biker, you pretty much need to hope for a Second Chance offer (so you can cancel the current preorder and re-order in July or August or whenever your points go live).

DarthPotts1975
01-05-2008, 08:31 PM
yep....exactly what Mister_Gosh said http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

skoota73
01-06-2008, 01:21 AM
that r2 looks beeeeeeeeooooootyful. i want him. it'd be nice if it there was subtle weathering, but not too much. don't want him to be pristine and sterile-looking.

when do we know the final design in february? i just want to get my order in and all.

jaklits
01-08-2008, 03:51 PM
Who wouldn't want a life size R2, does the Pepsi cooler count because I think that is as close as I'm going to get but the little woman has surprised me in the past when she got me the lifesize Anakin.

callaway94
02-12-2008, 09:10 PM
Are these things going to be numbered and if so, do you think you will get matching numbers if you order both of them?

SirTristram
02-12-2008, 09:25 PM
I think they are being made to order. So, probably no matching numbers. The R2 will undoubtably sell more than 3PO.
And will many preorders already in...

Mister_Gosh
02-13-2008, 12:32 AM
I think they are being made to order. So, probably no matching numbers.



Agreed. Even if they sold exactly the same number of each (which I think is beyond unlikely), there are so many people who would only be in for one or the other that trying to match numbers for anybody buying pairs would be a logistical nightmare.

StarWarsHelmets
02-13-2008, 04:46 AM
Hell if I was getting both I'd expect SSC to try their hardest to give the the same numbers!

Its not the most complex thing to do, for two $400 helmets its a hassle but for two collectibles of this price I dont think its too much to ask!

Cheers

Jez

Mister_Gosh
02-13-2008, 05:18 AM
Hell if I was getting both I'd expect SSC to try their hardest to give the the same numbers!

Its not the most complex thing to do, for two $400 helmets its a hassle but for two collectibles of this price I dont think its too much to ask!

Cheers

Jez



Well, to do that without also screwing up the order that people got stuff would be nearly impossible. If the first ten orders are for solo R2s and then you order a R2/3PO pair, what should they do? Give you R2/3PO #11 and hope they can sell #1 through #10? Give you both R2 and 3PO #1 even though you weren't the first to order an R2? Give you #11 and simply not make 3POs #1-10 until they have ten more 3PO orders (in which case there could be a discontinuity in the numbering, at which point what's the point of numbers at all)? It gets harder the more that one droid outsells the other.

Short of numbering pairs in a special way so there could be a "pair #1" as well as individual #1s, I don't see how they could manage it.

Of course this could all be a moot issue. It's not clear to me they'll bother numbering them at all. Given that there isn't likely to be a traditional "edition size" on these, numbering is even more arbitrary than usual, and I don't think the Terminator Endoskeletons had them.

Tweekem
02-13-2008, 05:23 AM
I really wish I could afford one of them but alas.. I am back in school for XRay tech and cannot afford more than ramen soup and mack n cheese for dinner.

Shadow
02-13-2008, 10:07 AM
I have agree with you Mister_Gosh, numbering these in a traditional way seems kind of pointless. Without a fixed edition size what is the significance of having #5 or #500, (not that they would go that high.) I'll be happy just to have my one. Other than curiosity, the edition size really doesn't matter with an item like this.

SirTristram
02-13-2008, 10:12 AM
Honestly, I would not even care about a number on these pieces. They are so incredibly unique to begin with! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

callaway94
02-13-2008, 11:39 AM
When Don Post came out with his Life-Size pieces, he was so nice everytime I talked to him, that he had me down for the very last piece of each item. Now, did they actually sell so many pieces, I don't know. But what was wierd, when his first piece came out, Darth Vader, I first noticed it in a Neiman Marcus Christmas catalog (I love what they try to sell during Christmas Season http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif). Anyway, this was back in the days when I just started getting into the collecting thing and I didn't know any better. When I received Darthy, he was early in the series, his 2 front pegs were made out of wood and painted sloppy. I send him back for some reason or another, and when I received the second one, it was a later series, they changed the pegs in mid production from the wood ones to the metal ones. Since then, and finding out later that Don Post would chage or improve things along the way, I asked him if I could have the last one made (figuring he would have worked out all the kinks along the way) and he said no problem. Anyway, thats my story http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

yodasan
02-23-2008, 01:42 PM
I just noticed that the R2 page at the SS website shows a Flexpay
schedule starting in April 2008 and ending in August 2008. Is that
schedule new?

SirTristram
02-23-2008, 02:56 PM
I just noticed that the R2 page at the SS website shows a Flexpay
schedule starting in April 2008 and ending in August 2008. Is that
schedule new?



Yeah, they just pushed it back to 3rd quarter.

DarthPotts1975
02-23-2008, 03:22 PM
i'm actually glad this got pushed back a bit.
i'm still trying to work a few things out before i officially place my order

now with the museum replica stuff i really need to budget myself http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

yodasan
02-23-2008, 07:30 PM
i'm actually glad this got pushed back a bit.
i'm still trying to work a few things out before i officially place my order

now with the museum replica stuff i really need to budget myself http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



I was just thinking it would be good to get R2 done before the MRep stuff starts to become available.

So is anyone getting 3PO too?

callaway94
02-23-2008, 08:02 PM
Yeah, I have both on order

Mister_Gosh
02-23-2008, 08:33 PM
I was holding back on ordering a 3PO until I could be sure I could cover both him and R2 without needing to carry a balance on a credit card. This change in dates likely buttons that up, so I can't say I'm too sad about it. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

TrooperJon
02-29-2008, 08:06 PM
I have been on the fence about ordering 3PO and R2. It's a lot of money, but then it's been a dream of mine since I was a kid to have these guys.

I first want to see final pictures. I didn't like the finish on 3PO on the SSC site. He didn't look right to me. Too dark.

Also, pushing the release date back makes me much more likely to place an order now.

I'll hate myself for ordering these, but I know that I'll love them.

Let's see final pictures!

Oh, if SSC issues clean versions down the road without telling us first, I'll be really ticked off. I prefer to have the choice up front. I'd probably get the weathered verions anyway.

SirTristram
03-01-2008, 12:16 AM
Oh, if SSC issues clean versions down the road without telling us first, I'll be really ticked off. I prefer to have the choice up front. I'd probably get the weathered verions anyway.




See? I'm not the only one.
For the price tag...It would be courteous to tell us upfront.

Shadow
03-01-2008, 10:07 AM
Oh, if SSC issues clean versions down the road without telling us first, I'll be really ticked off. I prefer to have the choice up front. I'd probably get the weathered verions anyway.




See? I'm not the only one.
For the price tag...It would be courteous to tell us upfront.


You mean like shades of the MR Luke ANH EE/LE or the MR AT-AT LE/v2 SE? It would be nice if on the big budget things all of the options were offered up front, full disclosure instead of well after the purchases.