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Skylover
06-20-2007, 08:08 AM
Tom Hodges will be at CE too, with a new art print http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

mattman81
06-20-2007, 08:53 AM
He will indeed. He'll also be taking commissions for skecthes, best to contact him in-advance if you want something specific and extra special. He'll also be doing a panel with Matt Busch and Bonnie Burton, no doubt to do with the 'You can Draw Star Wars' book.
http://www.tomhodges.com/

LITTLEOBIWAN
06-20-2007, 01:51 PM
I think Maki has put Barclay up to £15 per auto, as stated on his website....


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emotionalvampire
06-20-2007, 04:11 PM
I remember when they played in Leicester Sq for the Sith premiere. Went on for about 20mins but at least I videoed it.



That was The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, not the LSO. There is a wee difference in that this is the real deal, although the RPO did a great job at the premiere, but being the LSO it makes it a touch more special. Sorry to be a geek http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Ha ha, geek boy!!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Sorry, I even had it written down as the RLO!

Lee_c00per
06-20-2007, 04:48 PM
I think Maki has put Barclay up to £15 per auto, as stated on his website....


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Actually, alot of the guest prices have gone up

Dermot Crowley, Tim Dry, John Mollo and Dave Barclay are listed as 2 vouchers but are now 3 vouchers according to Malki.

mattman81
06-20-2007, 04:58 PM
I'd like to think Maki has made an error, but I somehow doubt that. A shame as it's beginning to really price me out now and makes my earlier arguments in favor of the pricing redundant, d-oh!

I may just concentrate on getting sketches and prints from the artists now.

DarthRavenger
06-20-2007, 06:27 PM
http://www.londonfilmandcomiccon.com/

It seems that this is turning out to be the original CE.

Lee_c00per
06-20-2007, 06:36 PM
http://www.londonfilmandcomiccon.com/

It seems that this is turning out to be the original CE.



I definately think it was the type of guests people were expecting for CE. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

nlindenj
06-21-2007, 03:03 AM
it looks like the autograph hall is gonna be a ghost town

Abstractharmony
06-21-2007, 03:21 AM
If he has put these prices up and I were his client's then I'd be really naffed off. For a lot of people he's priced his smaller guests out and they may very well be sat there for three days with not much to do.

On the other hand, someone like Mollo should be in the £15.00 range, the work he did on ANH should ensure him that placement.

I'm just gonna wait and see...

Cperry06
06-21-2007, 08:58 AM
Are they expecting more guests, or is this it??

mattman81
06-21-2007, 10:13 AM
I'd like to think more guests will be announced, but who know's??

There has been an official press release today, and I find the last line a bit of an odd one:

To mark this milestone year, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Cards Inc. are preparing three days of Star Wars events the likes of which Europe has never seen. Planned activities include:
ē Special previews of the future of Star Wars entertainment: The Force Unleashed, the groundbreaking videogame from LucasArts; and The Clone Wars, the long-awaited CG-animated television series from Lucasfilm Animation;
ē Opening Ceremonies on Friday, 13th July, with a centerpiece outdoor screening of the movie that started it all Ė Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope;
ē Presentation of comedian Charles Rossís acclaimed One-Man Star Wars Trilogy stage show;
ē The ďJedi Training Academy,Ē where young fans can visit a recreation of Dagobah and learn how to wield a lightsaber in true Jedi fashion;
ē Appearances by favorite actors and personalities who have helped create the Star Wars Saga;
ē More entertainment, presentations, events and soon-to-be-announced surprises Ė including some that wonít be revealed until they happen.

The Vader Ballon from Belgium will also be there, woop-woop!

06-21-2007, 11:14 AM
Basically what the last line means is 'we probably won't be able to organise anything better than we have already got , but if you don't come you wont know and you might miss out' Its there to tempt people how are thinking of dropping out into coming anyway on the off chance of a major guest appearing.

emotionalvampire
06-21-2007, 01:53 PM
ē More entertainment, presentations, events and soon-to-be-announced surprises Ė including some that wonít be revealed until they happen.



1)Any announcemnet is currently a surprise
2)If more that 100 people attend that would be a surprise they can only announce when it happens!

redxavier
06-21-2007, 02:27 PM
What about guests that aren't there just for signings? So far we've Warwick Davis and Rick McCallum showing up, anyone know of any others?

Capntarpals
06-21-2007, 06:44 PM
There has been an official press release today, and I find the last line a bit of an odd one:


ē More entertainment, presentations, events and soon-to-be-announced surprises Ė including some that wonít be revealed until they happen.[/i]




To hell with that. I need to know VERY soon as to what guests will be there signing. Not next week, and certainly not a day before or, for crap's sake, DURING(?) the convention itself?

Why all the cloak and dagger, secrecy stuff? It's a yes or no thing: Will Guest X be there or not? Yes...or no?

As it stands now, I have to pretty much play guessing games as to what guests may be announced, and send a bunch of "What If Guest X Will Be There" figures over to my UK buddy.

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Jeremy
06-21-2007, 11:26 PM
Why all the cloak and dagger, secrecy stuff? It's a yes or no thing: Will Guest X be there or not?



Is it as simple as saying if Actor X was taking part in contract negotiations he would be a "no" but next week once he had signed he would be a "yes"?

Now, what is the point in announcing "Actor X will not be coming to CE" and then a week later turn around and say "Actor X will be coming to CE"? That just causes confusion.

As an example to my point, if Actor X was in contract negotiations and CE announced "We are making a deal with Actor X", all of you would say "Yay, I can't wait. Actor X played the most important character .. blah, blah, blah". Actor X would see this praise and turn around to say he wanted to double his rate which would mean that either CE said no to Actor X or cheaper Actors A, B and C would be cancelled.

Now do you see the reason for the cloak and dagger stuff?

Jeremy the Horrible Shill

nlindenj
06-22-2007, 03:03 AM
ok then if you can't/won't give names, how about numbers?
how many in talks
how many signed
something to give the people some idea whats happening

Abstractharmony
06-22-2007, 05:32 AM
Jeremy the Horrible Shill



Dude, this just made me laugh out loud.

Well done!

Three weeks to go...

GONNA BE GOOD!!!!!!!!!

Abstractharmony the slightly nicer shill.

jeditronzo
06-22-2007, 08:30 AM
I would have thought that with C1, C2, C3 & C4, that CE would have been the greatest in terms of guests and overall organization.

Now before anybody gets fired up and bashes me because C1, C2, C3 & C4 were in the states and this is the first one in Europe, my reply is that it is all Lucas film related. I would have hoped by now, somebody would have learned.

CE on a whole may be spectacular, but I am fairly certain I can read that the title of the thread is "Guest List." The guest list thus far is far, far away from spectacular.

Jeremy
06-22-2007, 09:31 AM
I would have thought that with C1, C2, C3 & C4, that CE would have been the greatest in terms of guests and overall organization.



How so? Because most of the Original Trilogy actors were from the UK, and because the British are so hyper-organised?

To be honest I think that the greatest hindrance to getting the big names (i.e. the US actors) over here is the dollar/pound exchange rate. What would have been a fair price to pay for plane tickets, hotel accomodation and per diem two years ago is staggeringly expensive these days. So if you really want someone to blame for CE being "a joke on the convention circuit" you can point your finger at President Bush http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Sir Shillalot (aka Jeremy)

jwenig
06-22-2007, 09:51 AM
To Sir Jackhole,

I assume you are a pretty ignorant person when you make comments like "you can point your finger at President Bush" because of the exchange rate. The president has nothing to do with exchange rates... the market drives the exchange rates. President Bush can not lower or raise the exchange rates at will... just like I can't go outside and exhale a bunch of times and cause global warming... tool.

Perhaps you should dig deeper and get actual factual information from the organizers of this grand gala and ask them why information is not readily available and details have not been finalized with not much time left prior to the actual event.

I did not go to C4 in LA because of the lack of information so I would have an idea of what I would be spending thousands of dollars on. Most of the information was released very close to the event and I decided not to go... and I think a lot of people in Europe are in the same position.

I'm watching this forum because I was hoping to get a few more signatures that may not have come to the USA. I'm shocked at the signers announced and the amount. But I'm digging the London Expo show in Sept.

Jason







I would have thought that with C1, C2, C3 & C4, that CE would have been the greatest in terms of guests and overall organization.



How so? Because most of the Original Trilogy actors were from the UK, and because the British are so hyper-organised?

To be honest I think that the greatest hindrance to getting the big names (i.e. the US actors) over here is the dollar/pound exchange rate. What would have been a fair price to pay for plane tickets, hotel accomodation and per diem two years ago is staggeringly expensive these days. So if you really want someone to blame for CE being "a joke on the convention circuit" you can point your finger at President Bush http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Sir Shillalot (aka Jeremy)

Jeremy
06-22-2007, 10:06 AM
I assume you are a pretty ignorant person when you make comments like "you can point your finger at President Bush" as the reason actors are not showing up for C4. Correct me if I'm wrong but the majority of the actors from all of the movies live in Europe... and most live in England.



Thank you for your valued comments jwenig. You can assume all you want about me, but the next time you call me ignorant please take the time to read my post. I made it clear that the example I was decribing related to the bigger US actors that people are hoping to see. While many of the Original Trilogy actors are from the UK, your statement "the majority of the actors from all of the movies live in Europe" isn't true though because the bulk of the actors in AOTC and ROTS were from the Australian acting pool. But, as I have clearly said twice now, that is not what I was talking about.



Perhaps you should dig deeper and get actual factual information from the organizers of this grand gala and ask them why information is not readily available and details have not been finalized with not much time left prior to the actual event.



I think that if anyone needs to dig deeper it is not me. I have far more factual information that I am posting and it is all from the organisers. I could tell you a list of names of who is coming and give a list of reasons why they haven't been announced but I am not going to for the simple reason that it is not my place to reveal this information.

And if you were offended by my "you can point your finger at President Bush" comment then I apologise but a comment followed by a http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif is generally taken to be a sarcastic statement. If you have trouble with the concept of sarcasm then I don't think you will enjoy the British sense of humour when you come http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif (see, I did it again).

But to further qualify my statement, the actions of a government affect the economy of that nation and thereby causing the perceived value of trade goods to fluctuate - for instance, the war in Iraq had the immediate effect of increasing global oil prices. Ergo the actions of a government had a direct impact on a trade good and thereby affected a market-driven industrial economy that is dependant on oil, which had the knock-on effect of increasing the cost of manufactured goods. This in turn decreased the trade balance and deflated the value of the US dollar internationally. Of course this is only one factor in US economics, and the US is not the only party involved in affecting global trade. So before this turns into "let's get Jeremy because he is a Communist" just think about the simplified model I have just explained because there is truth in it. And going back to your first statement, no I am not ignorant.

Jeremy - shilling for Europe

PS I notice that you edited your opening line. The original comment that you posted is still included in the quote I took from your retort.

thechosenbun
06-22-2007, 11:15 AM
i think most of the guests are a joke but theres still time and like everyone keeps saying theres more to it than the guests, but what is there?
so far the ce site just says more comming soon
when jeremy wrote
Now, what is the point in announcing "Actor X will not be coming to CE" and then a week later turn around and say "Actor X will be coming to CE"? That just causes confusion.

yeah like jango, that was a kick in the [censored] so i understand why theyre being cagey.
i was planning to go 2 days minimum 3 if it looked good but at the minute i find it hard to believe i could fill 1 day bar the pannels
hope they get something sorted soon or its gonna be a pretty embarrassing
tel

jeditronzo
06-22-2007, 12:30 PM
I would have thought that with C1, C2, C3 & C4, that CE would have been the greatest in terms of guests and overall organization.



How so? Because most of the Original Trilogy actors were from the UK, and because the British are so hyper-organised?

To be honest I think that the greatest hindrance to getting the big names (i.e. the US actors) over here is the dollar/pound exchange rate. What would have been a fair price to pay for plane tickets, hotel accomodation and per diem two years ago is staggeringly expensive these days. So if you really want someone to blame for CE being "a joke on the convention circuit" you can point your finger at President Bush http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Sir Shillalot (aka Jeremy)



Are you kidding? I would have hoped for a better guest list because this is the first SW Celebration in Europe and that it is the largest SW event ever outside of the US.

So you may be privy to some inside info on who is coming. Thats great. Instead of bashing everybody who posts about a weak guest list, would it not be easier to simply say "I have some inside info and if all goes well, the guest list will be better."

Don't blame President Bush for a weak guest list. Blame Maki & Coolwaters. Celebration EU is far to big an event to give the reigns to someone who does not have the expierence with such a large event.

So you can hide behind your computer and make all the little snide comments you want. The bottom line is, as far as the public perception, this is a an unorganized event.

Jeremy
06-22-2007, 01:09 PM
Don't blame President Bush for a weak guest list. Blame Maki & Coolwaters.



Jeez, you are all taking this too seriously. I'm NOT blaming anyone. Everyone else is complaining about the lack of guests - not me.



So you may be privy to some inside info on who is coming. Thats great. Instead of bashing everybody who posts about a weak guest list, would it not be easier to simply say "I have some inside info and if all goes well, the guest list will be better."



You mean like this line I posted on 15/06/07?



I know of a couple of guests that haven't been announced yet that I'm sure aren't Maki clients, and were organised independantly.



or this one a day later?



There are more guests in the pipeline but without signed contracts they can not be announced.



I have been telling people that I have inside info for months. As for bashing people, I am actually trying to pacify the clamour about the lack of guests. And what do I get for it? I get called a "horrible shill" so excuse me for being so forthright.



So you can hide behind your computer and make all the little snide comments you want.



The thing is, I'm not hiding behind my computer. I go to the UK toy fairs and conventions and most of the UK forum members know me. I'll also be in plain sight at CE, making myself known and handing out the forum badges.

Shillmaster Jeremy

jwenig
06-22-2007, 01:32 PM
I guess you don't get what this forum is about Jeremy... Your type of humor and your contribution of assurance without any details is annoying.

People come here for information which is severly lacking... and people want to know what they are going to spend money on.

You could step up to the plate and reveal what you know but I'm sure you won't... because you are a knob. I understand what others are going through... C4 in the US was handled the same way... and I'm glad I did not spend a couple thousand dollars on that event... and I'm instead going to the San Diego Comic-con which will be 10 times better than C4. I'm sure others would like to be able to make a choice and move on.

Most people have hope and are optimistic... I'm hoping this show is successful for the European community... but it does not look very promising with little time left... based on the information provided...

J






Don't blame President Bush for a weak guest list. Blame Maki & Coolwaters.



Jeez, you are all taking this too seriously. I'm NOT blaming anyone. Everyone else is complaining about the lack of guests - not me.



So you may be privy to some inside info on who is coming. Thats great. Instead of bashing everybody who posts about a weak guest list, would it not be easier to simply say "I have some inside info and if all goes well, the guest list will be better."



You mean like this line I posted on 15/06/07?



I know of a couple of guests that haven't been announced yet that I'm sure aren't Maki clients, and were organised independantly.



or this one a day later?



There are more guests in the pipeline but without signed contracts they can not be announced.



I have been telling people that I have inside info for months. As for bashing people, I am actually trying to pacify the clamour about th elack of guests. And what do I get for it? I get called a "horrible shill" so excuse me for being so forthright.



So you can hide behind your computer and make all the little snide comments you want.



The thing is, I'm not hiding behind my computer. I go to the UK toy fairs and conventions and most of the UK forum members know me. I'll also be in plain sight at CE, making myself known and handing out the forum badges.

Shillmaster Jeremy

Jeremy
06-22-2007, 02:02 PM
I guess you don't get what this forum is about Jeremy... People come here for information which is severly lacking...



With +5000 posts and 5 years membership under my belt, plus being one of the site administrators then I think it is fair to say that I know exactly what this forum is for. This is a discussion forum and if you want information then there are official sites. If they don't have the information you want then complain to them, because Rebelscum is not the direct source - we just report the news.



your contribution of assurance without any details is annoying.



It is a matter of faith. Those that know me well enough will trust me when I say that there are better things on the horizon. These people know that I have contacts and believe me when I give them reasons to keep their hopes up.



You could step up to the plate and reveal what you know but I'm sure you won't... because you are a knob.



I am a knob because I am keeping the trust that the organisers at CE Ltd and LFL have placed in me? If you are the kind of person who breaks confidence then I'd rather be a knob.



Most people have hope and are optimistic...



Yes, they do. But the loudest voices are those that are complaining.

So what have we learned through all of this? That if you stick your head above the battlements for something you believe in then there are always going to be people who are going to take a shot at you. I guess that if everyone is concentrating their anger at me then CE are getting let off the hook for the duration.

Jeremy

matt76
06-22-2007, 02:13 PM
Is there any need for childish name calling I am sure we all left the playground by now!
Jeremy has been told stuff about the event and because they have put faith in him you have to honour his trust in not telling us. He has been good enough to give hints and we should be happy with that we have to appreciate peoples stance when they have been trusted like that.

If you have chosen to attend Comic Con fair play & I hope you have a great time. All the forums that I am a memeber to have been slaggin off the event. Lets all be possitive and judge people by what they have done and not by what they haven't done!!

DLoSith
06-22-2007, 02:37 PM
I thought we were supposed to be discussing a "Celebration" here? All this bickering really defeats the purpose of celebrating doesn't it?

Anyhoo, guest list aside, I am coming to Europe and planning on having a blast at CE and in London! Just being among fellow fans who have gathered for a common purpose is a great feeling in itself! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

matt76
06-22-2007, 02:46 PM
DLoSith you have just hit the nail on the head!!
Only a few weeks to go now!
As the Krankies would say it's going to be 'Fandabidozi'

artuk
06-22-2007, 03:42 PM
Just wanted to say the Artist Alley has 25 confirmed artists coming. With more still waiting to be confirmed.

Unfortunately this is taking alot longer than we had hoped for.

I know for a fact that the organisers are experiencing exactly the same delays as we are.

The time difference between us and the States doesn't help either.

Alex

Special Events Relations
The Animation Art Gallery

Skylover
06-22-2007, 04:22 PM
cool, thx for the update! Do u plan to have some artists from ILM too?

Capntarpals
06-22-2007, 07:34 PM
Hey, Jeremy?

I'd like to second someone's idea above that it'd be nice if we could maybe be given some numbers. Such as, how many more signing guests can we expect, at the most. You don't necessarily have to name names...although that would be very, very nice http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif Or, maybe a range of possible guests? Five to ten more, at the most, for example?

I'd wager that a great many folks are traveling from outside of the United Kingdom to attend Celebration Europe, and that they'd need to know what personal items to bring along for any scheduled autograph guests. Announcing them too late will deprive MANY fans of the opportunities that they are hoping to acheive at Celebration Europe. Are the organizers aware of this fact? Maybe some fans don't want a photo signed. Maybe they would like a poster, or an action figure autographed instead.

And, on a side note, I need to address that if any given actor agrees to an appearance/signing fee, and then tries to change that fee to his or her benefit(as in, needlessly gouging the fans) based on how many fans are eagerly awaiting their signature...well...then that actor can go scratch. If the actor(s) agreed to what I would believe to be a fair and equitable fee before the fan's positive reactions, then they should by all means honor that previous fee.

If not, tell them to take a hike. Or, at least, I'm telling them to do so http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Cperry06
06-22-2007, 09:41 PM
I posted the numbers on the autograph page becuase that's what this post section originally was intended for until Jeremy took it over. From two sources planning the event there should be a total of 35 signers which leaves 13 left to be announced.

nlindenj
06-23-2007, 02:18 AM
i hope 'the organisers' are not classing the artists in artists alley as 'guests' if so you have had your lot then
if so then CE has turned into a glorified empire day

i hope iam wrong, and if iam i'll be the first to say i was but with less than 3 weeks to go people need to know if its worth coming. and the only GOH (is he?) BDW only there for 1 day??? the only way 'the organisers' now can get away with the 'suprise' angle would be to annouce another GOH
i feel sorry for people coming from outside of the UK travel plans, things to bring and such. i know people in the UK who have said they arn't bothering, it must be infinately worst for fans from outside of the UK (even europeans) with air travel the close to the time of travel the more expensive it becomes and with the covert rise in prices for signatures (has it been annouced on the main site yet?) just checked and it hasn't, there are going to be some VERY angry people at the event
the 'coming soon' website why can't they annouce events or even some of the stuff in the shop? guest talks/panels i can understand because there are no guests to give talks/panels
i'll still be going to CE, i hope you can prove me wrong but if 'th organisers' stuff this up then there is no hope for a CE2

Lee_c00per
06-23-2007, 02:43 AM
Well hopefully with Cards Inc being part of Master Replicas, they won't be invloved in LFL anymore past this year so hopefully IF there happened to be a CE again in the UK that Showmasters (who shoud be running this show)get it next time round.

What's funny is that the TINY fantasy events that they have in Bristal and newport for example have even managed to get 27 guests at one event in the past. There were some cool guests like Chris Parsons and Alan Harris who US signers want to meet yet CE seem to be struggling to make the claim

'The biggest gathering of Star Wars signers ever in Europe'

BTW. nlindenj, I LOVE that avatar http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

06-23-2007, 02:53 AM
Im not really interested in most of the artists but just noticed that Ralph McQuarrie is one of the artists listed. He is at least someone you could put almost on a par with some of the on-screen guests.

nlindenj
06-23-2007, 03:42 AM
i was at the bristol event, and it was cracking



BTW. nlindenj, I LOVE that avatar http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif



cheers, i'm just waiting to see how long it is before it gets noticed by the mods http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

jeditronzo
06-23-2007, 07:40 AM
Artist alley has always been another main attraction for me at past Celebrations. Looks like CE will be right on target as far as artist alley. Also some of the prints that will be there are absolutely amazing. I love to get as many artist autos as I can, and its even better they all sign for free!

Nick_Macarty
06-23-2007, 07:51 AM
Showmasters have let a lot of people down over the years also, so I hope they donít get to do the next CE. What with similar costs for autographs, and so-called guests that are said to be there just to get people to go, and then ďas usualĒ donít show.

Iím sure lucasfilm would have got showmasters to do this if they thought they where up to the job, but it seems they chose truth over fiction.

Considering the 1000ís of people going to this event, and a very small 5 or 6 people complaining. It just shows lucasfilm got the decision right.

-Nick

LITTLEOBIWAN
06-23-2007, 08:59 AM
That is a valid point.......

jediknight49
06-23-2007, 08:59 AM
Im not really interested in most of the artists but just noticed that Ralph McQuarrie is one of the artists listed. He is at least someone you could put almost on a par with some of the on-screen guests.



Sorry to say, RM will not be attending CE. He did not attend CIV either. He is too old and frail these days to travel.
His artwork will be at CE, the limited edtion prints (125 of each set), but he will not be.

starwarsgrapher
06-23-2007, 11:31 AM
I think was is most disapointing for the fans that are interested is the autograph hall. With the gigantic actor pool to choose from in the UK, the organisers have used someone who is more interested in making a buck than he is in what he delivers to the table.

this show, and i'm sure their are facets of it that are going to be great, is a big let down. it's been poorly organized, the announcments that we've been told time after time, after time are coming, never come and when they announced the first guests, most were unspectacular or even exciting and almost all were way over priced.

i'm sure it's going to be a great show and alot of fun for everyone involved. but from someone that has attended c2, c3 and c4, the autograph area is comical.

if some of the guests at c4 were sitting on their hands during the event, because plenty were and i was in the autograph hall for extended periods of time and saw many of the guests walking around, chatting, or sitting and doing nothing, it's going to be worse at CE. i realise the exchange rate is much different but the prices are going to scare people away, especially collectors that are coming from the united states.

it's unfortunate that showmasters is not invloved. are their guests a-list? no. but they are more rare and much more exciting than seeing the likes of tim dry, sean crawford, mike edmonds, christine hewitt, david ackord, etc, etc.

Darth_Owl
06-23-2007, 11:42 AM
Showmasters have let a lot of people down over the years also, so I hope they donít get to do the next CE. What with similar costs for autographs, and so-called guests that are said to be there just to get people to go, and then ďas usualĒ donít show.

Iím sure lucasfilm would have got showmasters to do this if they thought they where up to the job, but it seems they chose truth over fiction.

Considering the 1000ís of people going to this event, and a very small 5 or 6 people complaining. It just shows lucasfilm got the decision right.

-Nick



Let me tell you something. I've been to a hell of a lot of events (as I'm sure we all have) and the more I attend, the more I believe that Showmasters are the best in terms of organisation and communication.

And that is where the organisers of CE are letting themsevles down - the communication has been shocking to say the least. I cannot remember an event that I was attending that with less than three weeks to go I didn't know most of what I should be expecting - times of individual parts of the events, what guests will be attending and on what day, where I need to go to ensure I get to see a certain part of the show, etc, etc.

You knock showmasters in this post, but give nothing whatsoever to back your statement up. I'd like to know to what exactly you are referring.

Do you think it acceptable for the event organisers to be charging the money they are for entry to CE without letting the paying customers know what they are getting? Like many, I bought my tickets within the first couple of days of release - expecting an extravaganza. I'm left not knowing what's going to be happening with very little time left to make arrangements.

Initially I could understand the lack of communication - certainly up until C4 had passed - but that finished a month ago and we've had so little in the way of announcements since then that it leaves a lot to be desired. Do the organisers of this event have any respect for the fans who they want to come and spend money at their event - because, let's be realistic about this, that's what this event is about - a money spinner for LFL and those involved in the organisation - it's certainly not to give us a value for money, explosive, Star Wars event. It looks to me as if they cannot be bothered, and I for one am extremely disappointed as I so wanted this to be a very, very special weekend. I have never been able to afford to go to the States to attend and official Star Wars event, so was hoping that the first one that was accesible to me would be phenomenal. At present - and with very little time left for the organisers to change opinons - there are a lot of justifiably discontented and frustrated Star Wars fans in the UK. So why not just let us vent spleen without shouting us down. We've paid our fare, so we have every right to voice opinion.

And if you, Jeremy, have contacts among the organisers then I'd say to you that it is your duty to represent this forum and let them know that we are disappointed with the communication and lack of announcements. It appears, however, that you are merely happy to serve as a line of defence for the people behind CE.

Oh, and before I get accused of being a Showmasters representative, or such, I'd like to point you in the direction of their forums. I've had many a moan at them in the past. The difference there though is that they are happy to take the criticism and suggestions aimed at them on board and they discuss it in a civilised manner. Where are the representatives for CE online for us to have discussions with?

Nick_Macarty
06-23-2007, 12:24 PM
Arh right, is that why Cheshunt is only a ľ of the size it once was, as well as the other shows it does? The web site hasnít been updated for months, so organisation is to me an issue. And communication! Iíve never had a single email replied to from Showmasters in the past.

I donít need to back up my statement; as itís though personal experience. Especially when youíve been cueing up for 2 hours to get in to meet your guest, to be told they arenít there. And youíve been hearing everyone else in the cue moaning about the same treatment, or lack of.

At least with C4, and CE you can take pictures of REAL props, which is great thanks to Lucasfilm & the CE organisers. Showmasters never let you take pictures of the props at Empire day, or when they are displayed at their other shows, so youíre definitely getting your moneys worth with CE.

And yes it is ok for the organisers to charge what they for this event, as itís being held in one of, if not the biggest venue in the UK. Not some sports hall, with a few parking spaces. As itís been said, this is a learning curve for the organisers of CE.

-Nick

SteveSith
06-23-2007, 01:00 PM
i hope 'the organisers' are not classing the artists in artists alley as 'guests' if so you have had your lot then if so then CE has turned into a glorified empire day



I dont understand, why are you referencing Empire Day as something negative? Apart from the crappy washed out photos they have been good for conventions and collecting as was reported on many times since they started.




I believe that Showmasters are the best in terms of organisation and communication.
...they are happy to take the criticism and suggestions aimed at them on board and they discuss it in a civilised manner.



this is not entirely true as many members have asked Showmasters what the quality of the photos for their next events will be after the poor quality of the Empire Days photos, both on the forums and via email direct. They ignored them all.

Nick_Macarty
06-23-2007, 01:07 PM
At present - and with very little time left for the organisers to change opinons - there are a lot of justifiably discontented and frustrated Star Wars fans in the UK.



Arh yes, I think all 6 or 7 of them are in this thread http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

-Nick

06-23-2007, 02:59 PM
****sake. The artists were only announced on Starwars.com 2 days ago and already cancelled.

Edited for profanity by admin-DLR

06-23-2007, 03:02 PM
Yeah 6-7 peopel complainingbut how many people have posted on this forum? If you look it as a percentage of the people that use it its quite a lot.

Nick_Macarty
06-23-2007, 03:07 PM
Yeah compared to the 1000's going, it's very little.

Nick_Macarty
06-23-2007, 03:20 PM
I have to admit, at least we get told about the CE artists/ guests that have cancelled before the event, where Showmasters don't tell you until you get there, and have paid admission. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif

-Nick