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Doc5
10-07-2006, 04:21 PM
Anyone see this MOC TIE Fighter auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-ESB-Tie-Fighter-Pilot-MOC-Rare-ERROR-Figure_W0QQitemZ300034047395QQihZ020QQcategoryZ502 74QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item3 00034047395)? Never seen anything like this. Is this legit?

_Lee_
10-07-2006, 04:28 PM
Ive seen another figure that was packaged like this.There is also a Hoth Trooper with the bubble placed upside down http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'd say it is legit http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Lee

MexicanToys
10-07-2006, 04:32 PM
Well Im not sure but if is real, Ohh my Mexican god, It is incredible!!!!

starwarssteve
10-07-2006, 05:59 PM
Sigh..........perhaps you should have waited till the auction was over before posting about it.

Doc5
10-07-2006, 06:11 PM
My apologies if I broke forum etiquette by mentioning this auction. On that topic, what is the unofficial forum rule regarding this? How long after an auction has ended is it acceptable to discuss, then? Once feedback's been left?

Edit: spelling

ThorOakenfelder
10-07-2006, 06:23 PM
I've seen a B-Wing pilot like this. I think that you'd prboably do best to wait about 3 days after auction's close. This is called outing an auction, and generally leads to more people looking at it, so if someone were watching it for themselves, they'd have to pay more.

Doc5
10-07-2006, 06:28 PM
Noted, thanks.

michael_mensinger
10-07-2006, 08:58 PM
I think Thor's suggestion of 3 days after the auction closes is even a little to close for comfort. My recommendation is to wait at least 7 days before outing an auction. By that point the item has likely left the seller's hands and is then likely safe from unscrupulous collectors who might try to contact a seller to offer more money.

-Mike

ThorOakenfelder
10-07-2006, 09:58 PM
Looks like the item jumped almost $20 in price since it was outed.

Doc5
10-08-2006, 12:14 AM
Doh! Sorry if it affected any of you here. Lesson learned. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Leif_G
10-08-2006, 12:33 AM
I was following it since it started and planned to bid initially.

But I guess you did me a favor cause I need to be saving my money for a much more important purchase commitment I've made.

I learned the 'outing auctions' lesson when I first started posting here myself. In fact, so many people do it that it seems to be a tradition like initiation or hazing. It's hard to expect new people to know not to do it since it's not an official forum rule. I have come to consider it a common courtesy.

shameonyou
10-08-2006, 12:55 AM
You guys wanna see something that will blow your mind?
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7981/hansolo1dl4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This guy is definitely one of my favorite LL pieces,

The sad part is that I payed for it about the same as I payed for my wife´s car.

SydSwans
10-08-2006, 01:49 AM
I think outing the auction wasn't such a bad thing in this case as he had concerns over authenticity ! As a potential buyer in my opinion this is an okay thing to do if you don't have the experience or knowledge to know of these types of errors. Granted to most vintage guys this would be common knowledge but probably not to all and at least it was posted in the watch out section ! Just my 2 cents http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

ThorOakenfelder
10-08-2006, 02:08 AM
You guys wanna see something that will blow your mind?
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7981/hansolo1dl4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This guy is definitely one of my favorite LL pieces,

The sad part is that I payed for it about the same as I payed for my wife´s car.



That's a great looking piece. truly it has to be one of the biggest rarities ever, not only is the carded Ledy rare, but a production error?

Chad_D
10-08-2006, 06:45 AM
I think outing the auction wasn't such a bad thing in this case as he had concerns over authenticity ! As a potential buyer in my opinion this is an okay thing to do if you don't have the experience or knowledge to know of these types of errors. Granted to most vintage guys this would be common knowledge but probably not to all and at least it was posted in the watch out section ! Just my 2 cents http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif



You can always ask questions about an auction via PM. Maybe somebody you know, or somebody who collects a certain thing. If you don't know who to ask, you can do a search for whatever you are looking for. I just did a search for "error" in the vintage toy section, and the second thread on the list has the upside down B-wing pilot ThorOakenfelder spoke of http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif.

Doc5
10-08-2006, 08:07 AM
Good point Chad. I should've started by doing that first.

ThorOakenfelder
10-08-2006, 11:48 AM
It's all good man. It's a learning experience. You live, you learn. I really feel that the error cards are a niche market. some people want it for its oddity, and some people really want it because they go for that kind of thing. I think it's interesting but regard it as a flaw. However I think an offerless 48 back TIE Pilot is difficult enough to find that someone who just wants to fill a hole would go fir it.

starwarssteve
10-08-2006, 12:21 PM
Yeah, no worries my friend....I was watching this item closely because it's a unique piece. There is a real gray area here in the Watch out section. You want to warn people of a possible scam but don't want to out a true auction others are hoping will go under the radar of potential bidders. I guess I only post when I am abosolutely sure the auction is bogus. If it could be the real macoy I just let it ride and post after the end of the auction. Its just safer that way........
Anyways this piece is 100% legit in my opinion...A very cool piece indeed... ~Steve

Leif_G
10-08-2006, 12:27 PM
Another thing a person could do is rip the picture from the auction and just post that here, asking a the question. For that matter just doing that you could then post in the 'Vintage Toys' section since it wouldn't be eBay related and that would also prevent any suggestion that it was eBay related.

Doc5
10-08-2006, 01:23 PM
Yes, another good suggestion. Thanks Dakk.

BWA
10-08-2006, 02:59 PM
WOW! This piece looks like it's gonna sell for a lot!!!

shameonyou
10-08-2006, 04:32 PM
Yeah, I predict about 300 bucks now,
maybe a little more.

BWA
10-08-2006, 05:11 PM
Hmm... it's not in such a good shape... worth it?

BWA
10-08-2006, 05:30 PM
shameonyou! Your predictions are very precise!

ThorOakenfelder
10-08-2006, 08:38 PM
shameonyou! Your predictions are very precise!



And these auction prices, too accurate for sandpeople. Only Shameonyou could be so precise.

shameonyou
10-08-2006, 11:12 PM
LOL,
Good one!
I really wanted that Figure though http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif,
well, you win some, you loose some.

BWA
10-09-2006, 02:52 AM
Hmmm... yes, but let us ask ourselves the theoretical question, was shame's prediction really accurate, or did the predicition BECOME accurate merely because he had made one? Which one is the egg and which one is the hen (Swedish saying :-) ) That's one for the books peeps! I won it and I sure listened to shame :-) It's gonna fit GREAT in my TIE Pilot collection so you can be sure it has found a nice home!!! :-)

Chad_D
10-09-2006, 03:09 AM
Cool addition to your focus, regardless of price http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Chad

Tim_Z
10-09-2006, 06:37 AM
Hmmm... yes, but let us ask ourselves the theoretical question, was shame's prediction really accurate, or did the predicition BECOME accurate merely because he had made one? Which one is the egg and which one is the hen (Swedish saying :-) ) That's one for the books peeps! I won it and I sure listened to shame :-) It's gonna fit GREAT in my TIE Pilot collection so you can be sure it has found a nice home!!! :-)



Don't fret too much about price; the value is in your enjoyment of it.

That's a great talking point for any collection.

Congratulations!

BWA
10-09-2006, 06:41 AM
Yeah! Thanks http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I was just joking about the price thingy, I was expecting it to go to $400+ so I was glad to get it for $308 :-)

// BWA

raven7dp
10-09-2006, 07:19 AM
Here's that B-Wing Pilot example:
http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/61_1.jpg

BWA
10-09-2006, 08:05 AM
LOL! It's on a canadian card too!!! First one on a Lili Ledy and now on a canadian, I can see why if Kenner didn't want to let others produce their figures ( http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif)(even though Kenner DID produce that fine B-Wing pilot example)

BWA
10-09-2006, 08:10 AM
Hm... there's a fraud potential in all of this... what if someone were to use a proofcard and seal a figure onto it creating the biggest production error you've ever seen? Like... wrong figure, front of figure towards card, wrong weapon, bubble horizontally... you name it! It would be quite hard to spot that as a reseal wouldn't it? And it would probably sell on eBay for more than the regular proof (at least if it was ROTJ)... that's why it's so comforting the TIE in this case has a price sticker... I know that's also possible to reproduce but I don't find that likely however... HMM.. none of this is likely... nevertheless... potential http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Tim_Z
10-09-2006, 08:57 AM
Ha Ha! You have quite an imagination. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

In all honesty I don't believe anyone who owned a proof card would look to add a figure to it; let alone upside down on the wrong part of the card.

However, I would think it possible to lift a dried out vintage price sticker from some used backing card and stick it elsewhere. Pretty sure this has happened in the past to disguise some card faults. That said I think your Tie Pilot looks fine so relax a little http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

BWA
10-09-2006, 09:18 AM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/laugh.gif