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jdw1991
08-14-2006, 04:00 PM
Just received a carded 4-LOM figure today. The card has a few creases in it and the bubble has a few dents. Looking at the back of the card, it looks like the pictures of the figures are smudged (kinda like when you print off a large color picture on typing paper and the ink is still wet). Are there other signs to look for to tell if this figure/packaging is authentic? THe bubble does not have the waffling pattern (which I know sometimes was not used), and the bubble has the "O3A" imprinted on it (I do have other oringinal figures that had this on there bubble). Is 4-LOM that popular that people would recard him? Thanks for any help.

Jediman
08-14-2006, 04:04 PM
It does not sound to good, best is if you can provide picture of the item and list it here and you will get a correct answer very soon.

Mike_Machika
08-14-2006, 05:04 PM
i agree it doesn't sound good. as for is he a popular figure to recard - that would depend how he is carded. in general he's pretty popular - but even more so on an offerless esb card (RARE!). post some pics if you can!

mike

jdw1991
08-14-2006, 06:58 PM
Here's some pictures. Hope they help. The picture of the back is a little blurry

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/thumbs/100_1515.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/imagepopup.php?imagename=http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/100_1515.JPG)


http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/thumbs/100_1510.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/imagepopup.php?imagename=http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/100_1510.JPG)


http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/thumbs/100_1507.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/imagepopup.php?imagename=http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/100_1507.JPG)


Can anyone post an original card next to a recard and point out things to look for/

Thanks

Mike_Machika
08-14-2006, 07:04 PM
a few more opinions from some other rs members would probably be a bit more helpful, but from those pics, everything looks to be pretty ok to me. the blister seal is hard to makeout from that pic, but nothing strikes me as off about the piece as a whole. any other opinions?

jdw1991
08-14-2006, 07:16 PM
My bottom picture does look similar to the one that is in the photo archives for the ROTJ 4-LOM. Gun taped to the left side of the figure and the number/letters to the bottom left on the bubble. The part that is attached to the card. Maybe I just have a very crappy card.

AndyDavies
08-14-2006, 08:33 PM
Hi jdw1991,

Reading your post I was worried at first but I have to agree with Mike.

It looks to me as though the card is legit and real. I cant really tell if the bubble has been resealed on the left hand side. I doubt it as the glare on that side looks like the glare that can be seen going vertically above the "e" in the Kenner logo.

It most certainly is not a custom. I think this for the obvious reason that it would have been done on an ESB card to make it more desirable to the buyer.

I guess you can ask the seller, that would be one way to find out. If you bought it from someone on this forum then I very much doubt you would have been shafted.

Hope this helps a little.

Andrew.

jdw1991
08-14-2006, 08:48 PM
the description from the seller: "It is on its original card, unopened. 65 back card" . Were Logray and Chief Chirpa blacked out on all 65 back cards?

michael_mensinger
08-14-2006, 09:03 PM
jdw1991 wrote:

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Were Logray and Chief Chirpa blacked out on all 65 back cards?


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No, the Ewoks were only blacked out on the ROTJ65A cards. Your 4-LOM is classified as a ROTJ65B card style.

-Mike

[edit: spelling error]

jdw1991
08-14-2006, 09:07 PM
my proof of purchase is blue, shouldn't it be green? I checked it on the card variation list.

michael_mensinger
08-14-2006, 09:29 PM
I believe blue proof of purchase examples of this card style have also been documented in addition to the ones exhibiting green proof of purchases.

-Mike

Mike_Machika
08-14-2006, 10:02 PM
I believe blue proof of purchase examples of this card style have also been documented in addition to the ones exhibiting green proof of purchases.

-Mike



this is correct, at least to my knowledge.

Lafos
08-15-2006, 02:28 AM
Looks like mine 4-Lom on ROTJ.

feel76
08-15-2006, 09:40 AM
i think the punch looks a little weird it looks like the german esb factory punches. Those also have no waffer pattern on the seal. But the card doen'T look german to me. But i agree that it is stupid to recard it on a rotj card you can buy those for about 65 euros.

raven7dp
08-15-2006, 10:44 AM
My 65B 4-LOM has a smooth bubble pattern with the code "016A" on the flange. It also has the blue POP on the back with a matted finish. The COO phrase on the back is pictured as:
http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/DSCN0265.JPG

Jorge
08-15-2006, 11:48 AM
also, when taking closeup pics, it's best to use the flower setting, not the mountain range. should be a button on the back that quickly sets between these two settings.

flower is better for closeups, and won't come out so blurry.

jdw1991
08-15-2006, 06:20 PM
thanks for the feedback. I guess it is not a recard. What was the deal with the matte finish aren't all cards the same?

kyussa
08-15-2006, 10:16 PM
Is there any glue residue around the bubble edge? If any element of the item has been tampered with, maybe it's the bubble, it looks very clear to me. Obviously this doesn't hold true 100% of the time as there are plenty of clear bubbled vintage SW figs out there. Just a thought.

My 4-LOM has the gun on the other side of the bubble to yours, but I'm sure this is pretty common too.