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PaulyMT
06-25-2006, 12:06 PM
where is Billyboyrodgers?

I bought some figs from him about 4/5 weeks ago and received no package, he also doens't respond to my mail or pm (normaly within 1 day)

I checked his ebay account and saw he was "no longer registered" I knew he was away for work, but this is getting very strange.

anyone more info?
regards
pauly

karlph
06-25-2006, 12:33 PM
i was in contact with him last week,i know hes been away,and that his wife has been ill..
karl

David_Tree
06-25-2006, 12:47 PM
Karl is right, they had a recent scare where she has been ill, but I was talked to him on Friday, so he should respond back to you (if not already).

Dave.

Dean_C
06-25-2006, 01:10 PM
David ,

will you please pass on my kind regards to Bill and his wife. Tell him that i wish his wife well soon mate.

Dean.

Chancellor_Peter
06-25-2006, 01:26 PM
Karl is right, they had a recent scare where she has been ill, but I was talked to him on Friday, so he should respond back to you (if not already).

Dave.



Dave, please send my Best Wishes to Bill and my Get Well greetings to his wife, from his fellow Vintage Star Wars collector from Malaysia, when you next talk to Bill willya?

Thanks.
-Peter

Lee_Gray
06-25-2006, 03:17 PM
I heard from him last week too, never knew his wife has been ill though, hope shes ok

stathis
06-25-2006, 06:27 PM
Just yesterday, I put in for the final value credit on an auction of mine that he won on May 14. He claimed to have sent the payment, but I never received a thing. His contact with me during the whole thing was spotty with long gaps of hearing nothing from him.

Obviously, he didn't impress me very much. However, if he's dealing with family medical issues, I hope things resolve themselves on a good note.

Nick

Billy_Boy
06-25-2006, 11:03 PM
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Obviously, he didn't impress me very much.

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Well thanks for the vote of confidence there Nick, SORRY!* http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif


I got back at the end of the week feeling overjoyed to have successfully completed the arduous location shoot for one of my most important productions I've ever worked on. I was feeling truly elated.

Little did I know that I was returning to utter chaos!


I finally returned home on Friday only to find out my partner Ruth had been rushed back to hospital still suffering from a severe viral infection. She had been quite ill for a while recently, though she had been well on her way to a full recovery and 'holding the fort' at home just fine. Or at least so it seemed to me when I last spoke to her on the phone. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I know she had been dealing with a lot of my emails but she hadn't told me that she had been virtually housebound where she'd been so repeatedly ill with this particularly nasty virus. I was obviously mortified to find out what had exactly happened to her. Ruth had to stop work, including helping me out with the general stuff to be done from home. She didn't want me to know what was wrong for fear that I would 'down tools' and rush back. Thus I hadn't got a clue what was going on at home. I've been emailing and phoning people and yet none of them had seemed to know either. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I've been away for the best part of 2006 so far, filming various projects and working in locations from as far afield as the Galapagos Islands to the Sahara Desert. Ruth had been very kindly responding to a lot of my emails and has dealt with all of my mail at home whilst I've been away during this time. She's even been diligently dealing with a few items of lost/stolen mail and six International Signed For parcels currently held by UK Customs. All of which I'm sure has given her quite a lot of additional stress on it's own.

To add insult to injury Ruth neglected to send off four cash payments totalling less than Ģ30 GB Pounds (*= including Nick's $10 US Dollars in cash), simply where she has been so understandably distracted by her increasingly poor health. Thus despite me bidding on new auctions from afar and spending well over Ģ3,000 GB Pounds on eBay in the past two months; I've now been suspended. All thanks to four small cash payments not being received and unpaid item strikes being swiftly sent in return and with only one single unpaid item warning in advance! I was totally oblivious to this entire matter, as Ruth had been handling my transactions just fine for me before she fell ill again. So PayPal payments were being dealt with and items were still being happily bid on by myself and yet four small cash payments had been annoyingly overlooked. Hence I'm feeling a bit disgruntled about it all now too. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif



So..... I now have two late bills to pay at home, six parcels to chase-up with Customs/Royal Mail, four eBay sellers to appease with late payments/sincere apologies (you included Nick http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/blush.gif). Plus there are some packages still to send, all of which I had thought had been mailed off already. Which includes the figures Pauly paid for nearly three weeks ago and pieces for Karl, Del, Troy, Mattias and Elliott. I will also have to look after a very poorly Ruth this week too.

Despite feeling a little frustrated about this situation, I'm really pleased to be back home again. I will soon be back to collecting as usual. Yet at the same time I have to say that serious incidents like this allow me to see what really does matter in life. It's given me the opportunity to get a good perspective on things altogether.

I've spent the weekend looking after Ruth and just getting on with it all really. I've viewed my (now very delayed) DVD guide at last and even emailed two or three of you about stuff I'd seen. I still have a lot of emails and PMs to reply to though. On top of all that, I have a book to finish.


THANK YOU for all the well wishes and friendly emails guys, I know Ruth will appreciate that greatly too.

Bill http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

PaulyMT
06-26-2006, 01:55 AM
Hey Bill

I didn't know about your wife, hope she's doing fine

kind regards
pauly

The_Twisted_Sithster
06-26-2006, 06:51 AM
Sorry to hear about your recent misfortunes, Bill. I hope things get better for you and Ruth in the shortest possible order.

For anyone who doesn't know Bill that well and is concerned about his trading behavior, don't be. In my years of collecting, Bill was one of the coolest and most reliable people with whom I ever dealt. His rather exotic job takes him away from home for periods at a time, but he was always diligent in getting back to me and completing deals, and few people I met in the hobby were ever as voluntarily helpful in assisting me in adding to my focus collection.

Best of luck to you and yours, Bill.

Chad

John_sH
06-26-2006, 07:29 AM
Hope things are back to normal for you and Ruth soon, Bill. Looking forward to the book too.

stathis
06-26-2006, 02:51 PM
Well thanks for the vote of confidence there Nick, SORRY!* http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif



Bill, no offense, but I could have written you off LONG ago...but I didn't. The auction ended on May 14. It said in its description, "Payment must be received within 10 days of the auction's end or negative feedback will be left." I didn't put in for the final value credit until June 23. That was way more than the 10 days I described in my auction, even adding in the delay invoicing you so I could get you exact international shipping. Geez, give me some credit for my patience rather than berate me for not giving you a huge public vote of confidence at this point. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



To add insult to injury Ruth neglected to send off four cash payments totalling less than Ģ30 GB Pounds (*= including Nick's $10 US Dollars in cash), simply where she has been so understandably distracted by her increasingly poor health. Thus despite me bidding on new auctions from afar and spending well over Ģ3,000 GB Pounds on eBay in the past two months; I've now been suspended...All thanks to four small cash payments not being received and unpaid item strikes being swiftly sent in return and with only one single unpaid item warning in advance!



Bill, it's difficult to tell your tone towards me. It can be viewed as sarcastic (which I hope it isn't) or sincerely sorry (which would be more appropriate). Personally, it seems to be more of the latter (which is good!) mixed with a note of the former (not so good). If I'm wrong, please make it clear with me via PM--there is no need to take up forum space with it.

In any case, as you made clear, this was a small-potatoes auction for a loose figure only worth a few bucks. I'm not upset about this.



I've now been suspended. All thanks to four small cash payments not being received and unpaid item strikes being swiftly sent in return and with only one single unpaid item warning in advance!



Bill, check the timing of events where I'm concerned. You were booted off eBay before I did anything! Once I saw you were NARU'd, I then put in for the final value credit, which any rational eBay seller would have done. Once a non-paying bidder has been booted off eBay, there are no benefits to sellers to wait on getting final value credits, only the risk of missing the window. Thus, my putting in for credit at that point was a no-brainer.

Like I said, no hard feelings. And as I said in my first post, I hope Ruth gets back to her normal healthy self quickly!

Nick

Dean_C
06-26-2006, 03:01 PM
Hi Bill ,

sorry tp hear of your recent troubles mate, above all things here - lets hope that the missus gets back to normal right away.

You have gone out of your way to help me with some of my deals in the past .... that and your kind words here on the forums has my respect.

get your stuff there sorted, and well be waiting for your sage advice - knowledge

Dean.

Chancellor_Peter
06-26-2006, 03:24 PM
Despite feeling a little frustrated about this situation, I'm really pleased to be back home again. I will soon be back to collecting as usual. Yet at the same time I have to say that serious incidents like this allow me to see what really does matter in life. It's given me the opportunity to get a good perspective on things altogether.

I've spent the weekend looking after Ruth and just getting on with it all really. I've viewed my (now very delayed) DVD guide at last and even emailed two or three of you about stuff I'd seen. I still have a lot of emails and PMs to reply to though. On top of all that, I have a book to finish.


THANK YOU for all the well wishes and friendly emails guys, I know Ruth will appreciate that greatly too.

Bill http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Thanks for the update Bill. As a matter of fact, vintage_sw (from Singapore) and I were discussion about your lack of presence in the Vintage SW section of RS forums of late.

OK we now look forward to Billy Boy's DVD Guide as mentioned. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Broc
06-26-2006, 04:18 PM
Great to see you around Billy! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Give my best to Ruth for a speedy recovery, you both are in my thoughts.

Best Regards,

Broc

craignwo4life
06-26-2006, 05:25 PM
Get well soon Ruth. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Good to have you back in the UK Bill, and like many others look forward to seeing the final results of the hard work you have put into the book and dvd. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Billy_Boy
06-26-2006, 07:47 PM
Thanks for the vast number of warm wishes guys.


Things are pretty strained for me here, as I still have masses to deal with. However, I'm trying to keep Ruth comfortable and totally stress free. She seems quite stable and has been a lot brighter today I'm very pleased to confirm.


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Bill, it's difficult to tell your tone towards me. It can be viewed as sarcastic (which I hope it isn't) or sincerely sorry (which would be more appropriate). Personally, it seems to be more of the latter (which is good!) mixed with a note of the former (not so good). If I'm wrong, please make it clear with me via PM--there is no need to take up forum space with it.

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Nick I think this should be public, as I honestly wasn't being sarcastic in the slightest, only 100% sincere with you. I'd like to think that my wit is ever so slightly more sophisticated than having to resort to that, though I can be a 'cheeky sod' at times for sure.

In this instance I can assure you I am indeed sincerely SORRY. I had wanted that figure, the value to the things I collect are secondry to me too.

It's just one of those things and YES I had just received three Unpaid item strikes in one day anyway.

I have no quarms in displaying my apology publcily here to you, so please try to forgive me for the mess that unfurled. I really have nothing negative to add, as I appreciate and fully respect your honesty. You obviously were being very patient. Thank you. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bill

vintage_sw2
06-26-2006, 08:13 PM
Billy_Boy welcome back and hope Ruth get well soon http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Black_Falcon
06-26-2006, 08:42 PM
Best wishes to you and yours, Bill
- Graham

MarkG
06-27-2006, 04:39 PM
Bill, good to see you're still around.... not seen ya for ages...and you're only down the road... well, when you're in blighty that is...

Sorry to hear Ruth's a bit poorly, give her my best, and wish her a speedy recovery... can't be easy on either of you.

stathis
06-28-2006, 01:50 PM
I have no quarms in displaying my apology publcily here to you, so please try to forgive me for the mess that unfurled. I really have nothing negative to add, as I appreciate and fully respect your honesty. You obviously were being very patient. Thank you. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif



No problem at all, my friend! Don't worry one bit about my auction. I hope that Ruth's recovery goes quickly and smoothly.

Nick

Mattias_Rendahl
07-01-2006, 04:47 AM
Billy, its sad to hear about Ruth, hope she's feeling better soon.
Take your time with my item, I'm not in a hurry...

Mattias

Graham_Marshall
07-01-2006, 07:17 AM
Welcome back Bill. I do hope that every thing pans out okay for Ruth and for you. I always think your health is the most important thing.

Malcymal
07-02-2006, 05:56 AM
Hello Bill. I met you once and you did me proud with my moc vintage figures i bought from you on ebay and let me travel down to you inviting me into your house to pay for them and buy some more lovely figures from you. I must say i was very impressed with your honesty and to allow a complete stranger to come over into your home was very trusting. I must say i was surprised too to note your ebay account suspended as decided to check you out for goodies the other day. I hope your wife gets better and your filming goes well. May you be reinstated back on ebay and if youve got any clobber lying about youre looking to sell PM me cause ive got some loose cash lying around. All the best, malcymal in sunny Bognor Regis. Take care fella.

XIANTOYS
08-01-2006, 08:52 AM
just curious if any have talked w/ Bill recently?

TroyJ_Packrat
08-01-2006, 09:12 AM
I spoke with him yesterday. Seems he just returned from Germany. I did get confirmation that he sent my package out, so he may be getting caught up in the next couple of days if anyone still has outstanding packages.

WThompson
08-01-2006, 09:13 AM
Yep,

Just did a couple of days ago

XIANTOYS
08-27-2006, 09:02 PM
is anyone waiting for a parcel from Bill R? i have been waiting for a killer IG item for a very long time...and curious if anyone else is in the same boat?

PaulyMT
08-28-2006, 02:14 AM
I had a mail from one of his sisters and she told me that she would take care of my package (and another package for another rebelscum member, this was about 2/3 weeks ago)

I think all the packages are still waiting at customs http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

pauly

Delboy75
08-28-2006, 02:31 AM
I've been in contact with Bill's sister and she was gonna send my parcel out to me. Not recieved anything yet though.

I'll see if i can get in touch with him at all. I do know that he had parcels held at customs, maybe yours is one of those.
If it was anyone else i'd be getting worried about now as it's been a very long time for my items, but Bills a stand up guy and he's had a hell of a lot on his plate lately.

I'm sure everyone will be sorted soon enough.

Delboy75
08-29-2006, 03:07 PM
Ok i've been in touch with Bills sister and she has asked me to tell anyone that is still awaiting their parcel to email her on Bills email address, she'l explain what's happening.
if you've not got his email Address you can pm me for it.
Bill's actually oblivious to the fact that these parcels are still outstanding, it's a long story but Bill's sister will fill you in.

Del http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Corey
08-29-2006, 08:57 PM
I waited 9 weeks while a package from Bill sat in UK customs. He eventually got in touch with one of his friends who works for the UK postal system and got it pushed along somehow.

XIANTOYS
09-18-2006, 01:22 PM
still curious about Bill Rodgers....anyone get their parcel yet? i am going on 4 months paid and no items. i am trying to be very patient here....poop happens to everyone...and many people i speak too about this tell me Bill R is a good guy....but can't help to wonder..have i been ripped off?

JohnA
09-18-2006, 02:22 PM
I've never dealt directly with Billy as a buyer but he's always been a stand-up guy. I know he had problems and he's been traveling. In his absense he has had others helping him out. 4 months is a terribly long time though. You are a member of behind the toys and his friend Elliot posts there. Drop him a PM. Maybe he has heard from him. I know he's been a go between for a few emails from Billy for me in recent months.

John

theguiltyone
09-18-2006, 02:59 PM
Hi, just want to say that im sure Bill will do right by you.
I havent spoken to Bill myself but i do know that his sister is on the case to get the parcels out.

marc

Mattias_Rendahl
09-18-2006, 03:08 PM
Im sure you havnt been ripped off, but I totally undertsand that your patience
is running low, Ive been waiting 6 months for my parcel http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif He's been very busy,
traveling alot, an ill wife/girlfriend etc. I dont defend him, just explaining what
Ive heard. Ive dealt with him several times, always very late arrivals but top notch
items once they have arrived. And they have always done that.

Last week I heard that Bills sister Shirley said the packages have all been returned
from customs, all opened but intact. She will take care of the mailing now.
I belive it when I see my package in my mail box. So Bill, if you read this
(wich I think you do), please contact me in person and make sure my parcel
is getting shipped. For the third time http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Mattias

Pellaeon
09-18-2006, 11:13 PM
Same boat as you fellas, it has been roughly 3-4 months http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Youthberg
09-19-2006, 02:13 AM
And me too...

So Bill, I ask the same of You that Mattias did, please write me an e-mail and tell how things are going.

PaulyMT
09-19-2006, 02:24 AM
I got a mail from his sister last friday and she told me the exact same that the packages are returned and that she will take care of them.

Pellaeon
09-21-2006, 10:26 PM
Lifting this thread so that someone may shed some light. It has been well over 2 weeks since the packages were returned but nothing in the way of resending.

Delboy75
09-22-2006, 08:25 AM
I've been speaking to a few other collectors who know Bill and they have informed me that Bills partner is still quite unwell.
His sister is supposed to be mailing parcels out on his behalf but like a lot of you i've been waiting almost 4 months for my parcel, which under any circumstances is a very long time.
Up until a few weeks ago i was in contact with Bills sister but after numerous promises to post my parcel out and it then never arriving, i've now given up and will just wait until Bill is back.
I think Bills sister has been busy too so posting our parcels has been put on the back burner.
I'm pretty confident that once Bills partner is ok and they are back home the parcels will be all be despatched.

I can understand people's concernes though.

Billy_Boy
09-22-2006, 11:30 AM
I'M SO SORRY GUYS!



I've been oblivious to how my sister Shirley had been tackling all of this for me, simply where I'm away from home.

I'm currently working in the North of England and I've phoned my sis on the South Coast to find out exactly why everything seems to be in disarray back there. To be fair to Shirley, she has a very poorly Ruth (who had been rushed back into hospital) and her own family of five to contend with too. I thought my mail had all been dealt with, as nobody at home had called to tell me otherwise.

Shirley has been pulling her hair out over this entire situation, she confessed to being simply too busy with other things to sort out the shipping. I obviously know life at home has been very stressful for Ru and that things have been strained for her, to say the least. She has sadly been way too ill to deal with my mail herself.

Alas, I had to complete a job that had been previously delayed due to my running off before at Ru's sudden poor health. Thus I'm now swiftly picking up the pieces of my career and keeping my production team in employment. As Co-Producer and Director on this project, I'm somewhat responsible for the whole crew in this particular instance. Plus I now have a pressing deadline to meet for this particularly important client. Hence I'm not with Ru back at home, which is precisely where I want to be right now.

I was due back well over a week ago but as soon as Ruth was out of hospital again I had to tackle this urgent production work. It will keep myself and my crew busy until next Wednesday the 27th. I had thought Shirl and her partner Rick had tackled all of my mail themselves but it turns out that due to their own hectic work schedules (and Ru being too poorly herself) it had all originally been left for me to tackle at the end of last week. Which is fair enough, as it's my own responsibility in the first place.

My whole family had assumed I'd be back home last Sunday at the latest. Sadly I didn't go home with Ru from the hospital as they had anticipated, as I had this outstanding production work to complete. Despite being insured for any such occurrences, I still felt I couldn't let either my colleagues or the client down; I'd also have surely been out of a job myself IF I had taken further leave from this production. The pressures of work have only been adding to the stress of all the unforeseen problems I've encountered recently.


There are currently four UK Special Delivery parcels to still send to Elliott, Gary, Marc and Del, they have been sitting on my desk in my study at home, gathering dust for weeks! Plus Customs & Excise caused a great deal of added worry by detaining those seven (and not six as they had originally stated) International Signed For parcels. All seven packages had been held on request of Inland Revenue and were eventually returned over two weeks ago. Annoyingly someone had obviously been monitoring the high value of my outbound packages and I have been investigated to see whether I was running an undeclared additional business. Considering the vast majority of the declared funds were going straight to John & Daniel Patrick (in this instance), it made the whole matter seem rather ludicrous indeed. Knowing that I spend an utter fortune on toys myself (rather than making anything in selling them) it was all a bit of a ridiculous farce on the Inland Revenue's behalf. I hasten to add that I do not run any form of business enterprise in toys. However, I do happily trade in thousands of pounds worth of items as a collector each year. If I was running a toy empire of any shape or form, I can actually confirm that it would have been at a great loss of finance.

My good friend Graham works at C&E and Alison (another sister of mine) works at IR, thus their own insight on the matter has made this whole scenario seem additionally frustrating to deal with .....to put it mildly.

The International packages for Martijn, Fredrik, Mattias, Pauly, Christian, Tony and John had all been quite roughly handled by C&E. Luckily none of the contents had been damaged and I know that everything has been very carefully checked. It was only the packaging that was trashed. Appreciating that Royal Mail's service hadn't had the chance to deliver these items, I was quite prepared to continue using their service that has already been paid for. I would be prepared to consider an alternative service, though it seems crazy to me when RM are prepared to deal with this all at no extra cost. None of this is apparently the fault of their own.


I'm obviously very dismayed and stressed out by this whole fiasco. Please bear in mind that I've honestly been distracted by other things, especially by Ru's poor health and I falsely believed Shirl had sent on all of my mail already. In the meantime my whole family have been on tender hooks about the entire ongoing dilemma regarding Ruth, as her own life has been in serious jeopardy twice over the past few weeks.


I'm perfectly happy to accept responsibility for the continued delay. I will also send off all of the mail myself, after my return home next week. I'm guessing Thursday morning, as my local Post Office is closed on Wednesday afternoons. It will also allow me to photograph everything that is to be sent on and to check it in person again, before shipping.

I fully appreciate just how frustrating this delay has been; yet under these difficult circumstances all I can really offer right now is a sincere apology and a promise to finally send on everything next week.

I'd already had a manic year with work before all of these dreadful problems surfaced. Now that my own career is on the line, my partner is still seriously ill and that my sister Shirley is having to hold the fort at home, I can't wait to get back and start to sort things out. I'm desperate for everything to return to some form of peaceful normality.



I still have literally hundreds of DVDs/cases/covers/badges sitting in boxes to deal with at home. I already have masses to distribute too. My now rather concerned Agent and equally worried Publisher are very keen for me to finish my book. I had even previously found funding for my first feature film production and have a Producer who is desperate to get the ball rolling on that ASAP. Hence I need to return home and seriously focus on each of these various ventures, all whilst caring for my partner. It's my duty to do so.



My current project deadline is for Wednesday morning. Thus please be rest assured that I'm certainly returning home and that everyone will receive these delayed items. I will finally be around to answer everyones questions and concerns in full next week.

I hadn't run away from the issue and I never intended to let anyone down in any way. Life has just been horrendous for Ruth & I over recent months. I'm hoping everything will be finally addressed and resolved as quickly as possible. I understandably intend to get some peace & quiet alone with Ruth after everything has been dealt with.

Bill

sotoam
09-22-2006, 11:38 AM
Bill,

Sorry things have been so hectic for you. I hope everything calms down for you soon and Ruth starts feeling better.

Is there a package to be sent to me as well?

Tony

Billy_Boy
09-22-2006, 11:48 AM
Yes!

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International packages for Martijn, Fredrik, Mattias, Pauly, Christian, Tony and John

[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry for the ridiculous lengths of this ongoing saga. Your figures are definitely there Tony.

Bill

XIANTOYS
10-12-2006, 12:44 PM
dare i ask...once again...has anyone heard from BILL RODGERS as i am getting extremely frustrated and not heard anything from him/about him since SEP 22. anyone get a parcel YET? starting to really think i have been ripped off here. anyone...anyone...Bueller...Beuller...

Spidey_Seth
10-12-2006, 12:52 PM
I see him bidding on ebay in a lot of the auctions I watch, so he is still around and actively collecting. I hope you get your items soon.

ThorOakenfelder
10-12-2006, 01:04 PM
I see him bidding on ebay in a lot of the auctions I watch, so he is still around and actively collecting. I hope you get your items soon.


Man I was going to say that too

Pellaeon
10-12-2006, 01:05 PM
No word, yet. Last I heard from Bill was three weeks ago when he said he would ship out that Thursday. To date no parcel. I sent a mail a few days ago to follow up and did not receive anything back yet. Some folks here have a lot of faith in him so I am hoping all is well http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif but I have to admit, after a quite a few months I am beginning to get concerned.

PaulyMT
10-13-2006, 01:58 AM
I had the same mail that it should be send out that thursday, I think when bill has more time he will send them out (all my other deals with bill were great.)

I think he will read the forums so he'll give a reply http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Youthberg
10-13-2006, 03:33 AM
He told me the same thing, that he was going to ship my package thursday three weeks ago. Iīve e-mailed since then, but no answer.

PaulyMT
10-17-2006, 03:42 AM
anyone had succes reaching bill this week?

Mattias_Rendahl
10-17-2006, 07:39 AM
No replies, no item http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I'm running out of patience Bill! I dont care how you solve it anymore,
just do it. And do it right away. Please...

Mattias

MartijnEmmelot
10-17-2006, 08:02 AM
I haven't participated in this thread untill now...
The thing that bugs me the most is the lack of replying my emails (even a very short message will do) and on the other hand you find time enough to buy a LOT (http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=billyboyrodgers&sort=3&rows=200&ViewBidItems=&all=1&completed=1) on eBay http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif


~Martijn!

Delboy75
10-17-2006, 10:29 AM
Same here, still had no parcel.
I'm really confused now as to what's going on, especially with all the Ebay activity.

It has been a very very long time http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Mattias_Rendahl
10-17-2006, 10:42 AM
7 months and counting... But for some strange reason I still trust Bill.
I sure hope I can trust my intuition...

Mattias

colpar
10-17-2006, 11:08 AM
It's not my concern but ... have you tried to reach him by sending a mail with the ebay internal message system ?

Youthberg
10-17-2006, 04:25 PM
Found this in some guys webshots --&gt; Snowtrooper baggies (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2871257810086319455njvQwO)

Two of the things Iīve bought from Billy, and been waiting for since sometime around april-may this year are: #1 - An unpainted Snowtrooper in a Palitoy baggie. #2 - A Snowtrooper in a Parker/Kenner Baggie.
Both of them are as You can see present in this guys collection. There are supposed to be three known examples of #1, and four of #2. And all have come from either Billy, or from a guy he knows, trough him. So the Snowtroopers in the pics above probably arenīt the ones Iīve bought, but there arenīt to many of them out there. And why has this guy gotten them, and not me? Six (6) months!

Donīt really know what to think anymore... Have had a lot of patience for a long time, but itīs starting to run out for me as well.

So Billy, if You read this: Please(!) just solve this mess, will You?

//Fredrik

MartijnEmmelot
10-17-2006, 04:44 PM
Fredrik,

The Webshots Album you are linking is Bill's (100% sure)
I too bought these 2 baggies, the unpainted Palitoy sample and the PBP bagged Snowtrooper. Now both got lost in the mail the first time he shipped and the 2nd try they were taken hostage by those scumbags at the UK customs...So regarding the known examples you can add 1 to each (but both lost forever I fear)

I really hope this will come to a happy ending soon and when I'll finally receive my figure it will be treasured for the rest of my life http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

~Martijn!

Youthberg
10-17-2006, 04:51 PM
Ok Martijn, thanks for the heads up! Guess I got a little carried away when I found pics of the unpainted sample (havenīt even seen it before), Iīm reeeeally looking forward to get that figure too. As I said, the patience is starting to run out, which my last post did show... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

gary_smith
10-18-2006, 02:02 PM
I've been waiting since June, but still have faith it will get sorted.

I managed to get a reply from Bill's sister to say that his wife has got far worse and has been put on a ventilator.

She says all packages will hopefully be sent be sent by the end of this week.

Hopefully they finally will.

Pellaeon
10-20-2006, 06:39 PM
I truly hope so.

Dan_Bretta
10-20-2006, 08:30 PM
This guy's wife is on a ventilator and he's bidding on ebay items even today??? I don't know this guy and apparently he's got a good reputation, but man there's something wrong with that.

Chancellor_Peter
10-20-2006, 08:43 PM
-Contents edited- out of respect to Bill.

AllanB
10-21-2006, 12:41 AM
This guy's wife is on a ventilator and he's bidding on ebay items even today??? I don't know this guy and apparently he's got a good reputation, but man there's something wrong with that.


Hey man, go easy, ok? BillyBoy is an extremely stand-up guy, (as has already been stated) & has been around for a long time, & has never ruffled anyone's feathers that I know of.

And on top of that, he's also contributed a ship-load to this hobby, in many different areas.

Everybody knows that people have been waiting months for their gear, & that's not good. No-one's trying to say that it is, me included, but I dont think it's any business of yours what Bill does with his time.

Also, people with nothing to do with this situation shouldn't be posting in this thread, imo. Have a little respect.

- Allan

Leahs_Toys
10-21-2006, 03:14 AM
Hi,

I have dealt with billy and hes is one of the the nicest guys around we will come good in the end.

Paul

Dean_C
10-21-2006, 10:18 AM
Hi guys,

i dont have anything to do with this thread, bu t ijust wanted to say thet Billy has gone WAAAAAAAAY out of his way to hep me with deals and to arrrange stuff with TOY Toni in the past.

hell come thru, somethign must be up with his wife.. Bill if you see this mate, i really hope it all pans out well in the end mate.

Dean.

wampa
10-21-2006, 10:48 AM
hello all
i am not well known here but billy went out of his way to help me identify some vintage snowies, gave a lot of time and effort for me and he has always been friendly and genuine

dlloyd
10-21-2006, 12:34 PM
This guy's wife is on a ventilator and he's bidding on ebay items even today??? I don't know this guy and apparently he's got a good reputation, but man there's something wrong with that.



A couple of years ago, my wife was involved in a serious accident and spent several months in hospital recovering from various injuries, including a badly lacerated liver. For the first couple of weeks, there was a significant possibility she wouldn't make it. I spent hours every day at her bedside, but there's only so long you can stay. For one thing, your partner needs time alone to rest and the nursing staff will eventually insist you leave. It's not so easy to get the rest you need and you find yourself trying anything to keep your mind off things... ebay's good for that.

vintageseller
10-23-2006, 11:06 AM
anny news so far ??? i have sold 26 items to Bil now and the first one on oktober 4th. after several emails i got a hold of his neffew collegue bidder as he called himself. he also told me about his auntie beeing I'll . so i gave them some time to pay with paypal. as of today no payment recieved. Still see him bid more on ebay and it takes a while but i do get emails in return but still the same with i have sent Billa sms or my mom sees him tonight i will let her ask what to do, and i wonder how much more i will hear from these answers .I still have faith i will get the payments but after reading this forum i beginning to think it is a lost cause. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif Still have hope but i never heard from anny sister just a neffew. So anny news from annybody who's heard from him ????

vintageseller
10-23-2006, 07:31 PM
tried to send 2 more emails ,as of 2 days ago no answers annymore. Annyone else has an update ??? And still he's bidding and paying for stuff.

vintageseller
10-23-2006, 08:27 PM
ok well here an update from me then http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif i just recieved a message from his neffew again saying he is still at the hospital . Now his neffew is going there today i believe and i told him to tell Bill what's happening on the forum and that people are still wondering what's going on. Let's hope i'll get some payments this week. if not i'll notify ebay and take actions.

vintageseller
10-24-2006, 05:42 AM
back with an update. these 3 emails i have gotten sinds yesterday and now things starts to look a bit brighter.
p.s. they asked me to put this on the board.

1:
Just to clear things up...

Ruth, my Aunt is VERY ILL in hospital and people think she is paying/bidding on eBay? My Mum Shirley and I are. Not Bill or Ru.

Please bear in mind Bill is a virtual Star Wars collecting empire to himself. What with an exhibition, a book and 2 DVDs on the way; we are seeking out extra items for it all.

This situation is really very serious. I'm well aware of recent events and I sent off all the delayed mail myself. Considering Ru has nearly died three times recently, I'm not quite sure just how much of an emergency people seem to think this is?

As soon as Bill is aware, HE WILL PAY YOU! He has plenty of funds and I can assure you he's only been disrupted due to Ru's serious health problems.

I don't think I can make it much more clearer than that? I will gladly enadeavour to sort this out. It's just under the circumstances things are very disrupted.

My uncle is an honest and decent fellow and would have no intention of letting you down.

Al

2:
I appreciate fully where you're coming from Peter. I'd have the same concerns if I was in your position too.

I usually pay for items from Bill's PayPal balance, 30 pounds here and 40 pounds there (he did have about 160 pounds left) BUT Bill would be paying for your bulk order via his credit card. Getting to see him & Ru 50 miles away isn't easy and when Bil hasn't got his phone on I can't just get his CC details from him, I wish I could.

Both my Mum & I work in full time employment, so YES; it has been tricky for us to contact everyone concerned. However, I know my Mum had asked a respected Rebelscum member to post an update for us. We don't have Bill's password for the forum, so we can't even leave a message ourselves.

This is a really stressful time for us all. Poor Ruth has been suffering a great deal over the past few months and has had a third relapse. So just as everything seemed OK, it all went downhill again.

I WILL BE SURE YOU GET PAID BY THE END OF THIS WEEK!

Al

3:
Hi Peter,

I'm currently taking a tea break and I've just left a message with the ward Sister at the hospital. Both my cousin Lewis and myself have been mailing stuff off and we still have a few items to go. I have to go via work and Lew goes via college. Neither of us have cars yet.

I know my Mum would appreciate any updates for Bill's behalf. Ruth is going through hell and back, so he isn't exactly level headed right now. He would normally be on the ball with this all. He used to depend upon Ru to help send items out, where he Directs a lot of the time. Sadly her repeated illness keeps rearing it's ugly head. We naturally had to step in and help.

I hope my uncle gets my message.

Al


so Bill and family take care and thnx for the updates.

MartijnEmmelot
10-24-2006, 06:31 AM
Thanks for the update...

I first want to say that when someones health is involved nothing else matters, the health issue is priority no.1

But I really would feel much more comfortable when the person who is making the bids on Bill's behalf would also take just 1 minute to touch base (eg once in a week) with the collectors waiting for their items. Just a simple (maybe group-) message will do. The content doesn't really matter, it can be as simple as "sorry no news today, we'll keep you posted" Just to feel there is contact.
This is much better than seeing Bills name all over eBay and getting no reply on emails sent. This would also mean I don't have to open my PO box every morning again with the false hope of being a parcel from the UK inside http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I still do not doubt Bill and have faith everything will work out eventually and truly hope Ru will fully recover from her illness.

Peter, you are only just recently involved and the items are still in your possession so your only 'loss' would be the fees (which in the worst case you can claim from eBay). The first purchase Bill made from was less than 3 weeks ago, IMO this is reasonable since his last purchase was last week. It's not strange to make multiple buys in a certain period to combine shipping. Patience is the key-word http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif


~Martijn!

vintageseller
10-25-2006, 06:58 AM
i know martijn and normaly i would have been verry patience, but when you get in contact with somebody who you don't know and then talk to somebody who sends me this thread to read ,that's when my patience started to worn out. Also Ru's health is sertanly NR-1 ,but like you said ,keeping people posted makes a lot of worries go away.
Te'll me i know how fast your name can go down the drain after it's taken years to build up.Just by an i'llnes.

greetz

vintageseller
10-29-2006, 03:57 PM
Latest update...money recieved items ar ready for shipping to Bill. Hope the rest get's their stuf too.

Pellaeon
11-01-2006, 05:00 PM
I havent heard a peep, glad to see yours is coming to a conclusion.

PaulyMT
11-06-2006, 06:07 AM
any news on the situation guys?

XIANTOYS
11-06-2006, 07:33 AM
nothing. last note was OCT 17 from Shirley. no reply to my emails or requests.

Lee_Gray
11-06-2006, 01:18 PM
Billy is top guy but I am sure he doesnt really want everyone knowing his personal business as I know i wouldnt

Leahs_Toys
11-06-2006, 03:15 PM
Hi Lee,

Well said mate!

Paul

vintageseller
11-06-2006, 05:12 PM
Billy is top guy but I am sure he doesnt really want everyone knowing his personal business as I know i wouldnt



They asked me personally to post there answer on this forum to clear things up. So hey just doing what i'm asked to doo.
And For the rest of the people keep hope i'm sure things will be solved ,though i don't understand you don't here anything annymore. Good Luck

XIANTOYS
11-13-2006, 11:12 AM
any news? any parcels? anything at all...?!

Pellaeon
11-13-2006, 02:35 PM
Nope, nothing hear.

Pellaeon
12-04-2006, 11:15 PM
Two attempts in the last week to get some kind of response. Bill has gone dark.

vintageseller
12-08-2006, 09:14 PM
i just don't get it annymore , just hope the people getting their stuff someday.

Leif_G
12-08-2006, 11:07 PM
I don't mean any disrespect by this comment.

My wife and I both have very serious illnesses. Our entire married life has been one long struggle to survive it seems. My wife especially. She has ITP, a disorder that causes her own immune system to destroy the platlets in her blood. On a good day her blood platelet count is 30, about 10% of what most of you have. When it gets under 10 it gets very scary. There's no cure and it will almost certainly kill her one day. She has already been close to death on several occasions, with the doctors thinking that she wouldn't make it through the night. So far she keeps coming back from the edge. She is one very fortunate woman, and me one fortunate man.

She even suffered a C1/C2 hang man's fracture in a car accident years ago and still managed to heal up with only nagging neck pains. Anyone else would have been dead or permanently paralyzed. It's the same break Christopher Reed suffered and her accident was about 2 weeks after his fall.

So I know what living with sickness is all about.

People dealing with illness need and deserve to be given some understanding and kindness. But I hope Bill also appreciates the good friends he has that have gone out of their way to stand up for him and speak in his favor. And I hope he demonstrates that appreciation by not letting them, or anyone, down. Illness is a terrible thing. But it wouldn't be right to suggest that it's a reason to let everything else slide.

Leif

BWA
12-09-2006, 06:08 PM
Bill! I have all the understanding in the world for your situation http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif Take your time, and feel free to contact me when you can. However, I must stress that I want to have gotten in touch with you and would want the merchandise delivered (Kenner / Parkie baggie TIE Pilot) before february 1st since that's when my possibilities of recovering the money disappears... and I DO believe you're a stand-up guy, it's just that business is business...

Have a wonderful holiday and I sincerely and full-heartedly wish that Ruth is feeling better!

Elias

MartijnEmmelot
12-10-2006, 06:20 PM
Hey Elias,

When exactly did you make payment? And when did you make the deal/buy with Bill? Did he contact you or did you ask him? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Did all your transactions and communications take place before or after Bill stopped communicating with the other collectors waiting for their paid figures? (the last public post in Bills name dates october 24st)
I hope you are waiting (almost) as long as everybody else since it would shock me if Bill would do business to sell (next to his eBay buys) on the one hand and would be silent to all the other collectors who are waiting for their stuff and response on the other. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

~Martijn!

BWA
12-11-2006, 12:40 AM
Well... I got a name from a Swedish collector... a name in the UK of a guy who supposedly would have lots of cool european stuff... I turned to him and he directed me to Bill to whom he had sold lots of stuff.. Bill had mainly three figures that interested me, two bagged factory samples (expensive) and a german Parker baggie (TIE Pilots of course)... After a while, I decided to buy only the Parker baggie, since the other were very expensive (Parker baggie= Ģ70 + shipping). Bill was VERY kind and helped me out lot and also taliked about his situation with his partner. He said he had lots going on but that a visit to the post office can always be arranged... I paid in the middle of october and haven't heard from him since (middle of oct.=oct. 19 or so in this case).

Yeah, Martijn, of course I should wait as long as everybody else, but that's kind of up to every single buyer to determine... after 120 days, credit card issuers no longer accept inquiries for money retraction so after that, money is considered forfeit... and to me, waiting longer than four months without a single line of text is a LOT!!! Does he have a history of doing this or what, I don't understand hy everybody is so cool with it? On the other hand, this is my first deal w Bill http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

MartijnEmmelot
12-11-2006, 06:13 AM
Bill was VERY kind and helped me out lot and also taliked about his situation with his partner. He said he had lots going on but that a visit to the post office can always be arranged... I paid in the middle of october and haven't heard from him since (middle of oct.=oct. 19 or so in this case).



Yes Bill IS very kind, that's not the problem. The thing that bothers me is that new business is started while other deals still are unfinished due to personal/health problems and customs-delays.
Your story is the same as everybody elses but more recent...




Yeah, Martijn, of course I should wait as long as everybody else, but that's kind of up to every single buyer to determine...



No, I didn't say you SHOULD wait just as long, that wouldn't be fair and totally not up to me to claim. That would be simmilar saying I hope your package will be lost too, which I definately hope not ofcause.





after 120 days, credit card issuers no longer accept inquiries for money retraction so after that, money is considered forfeit... and to me, waiting longer than four months without a single line of text is a LOT!!!




Is that Paypal by credit card? I always thought it was a limit of 45 days?
And again, waiting is not that bad as long as there is some sort of communication. A total silence would worry any collector.





Does he have a history of doing this or what, I don't understand hy everybody is so cool with it? On the other hand, this is my first deal w Bill http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



No, he has no history in doing this, Bill is a very serious and well known collector. His postage might have been not the fastest but always in a reasonable time. Email contact was always very cooperative and extend also was his sharing of knowledge. So THAT's why everybody is/was so cool with it.

~Martijn!

Delboy75
12-11-2006, 08:49 AM
Tbh i can't believe we are still waiting.

I said i wasn't in a rush but 7 months... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif.

No offence meant to Bill at all, he has been great to me in the past and i don't expect him to leave Ru's side whilst she's so ill, family will always come first no matter what!.
I don't contribute much to this thread as i don't like talking about someone's private life on a public forum.

However i will say that i really wish that whoevers using Bills account (Brother in law?) could take timeout to post our parcels, they are doing a hell of a lot of buying on ebay for Bills forthcoming book but no one seems to be taking care of actually posting parcels out for him.

BWA
12-11-2006, 04:28 PM
45 days if you ask Paypal yes, and that's probably enough for US buyers but not when the merchandise travels across the pond... They make exceptions sometimes... especially if you talk to your credit card issuer and tell them you haven't received what you paid for (using CC)... and my bank can't do anything when 120 days have passed since initial purchase... these rules are VERY different among banks and some might not even do anything I believe...

Pellaeon
12-11-2006, 05:18 PM
Everyday that goes by without any contact I get a little more worried. If it werent for people coming on these boards singing his praise I would have given up hope along time ago.

daxvader
12-12-2006, 04:48 PM
It always worries me when I read threads like this. There are obviously more important things than collecting but, over a period of weeks and months, there is always the time for communicationa and how long does it take to post some figures?
As pointed out above, there is a lot of buying activity going on by the account holder (many SW items) and with all of the hundreds of international parcels that I have sent and received, I have never had any parcels 'held up' at
customs.
If it were me, I would have phoned those lovely people at Paypal shortly followed by my credit card company.

XIANTOYS
12-12-2006, 06:02 PM
OK...its been another month since my last post...and nadda. i have been biting my tongue about this...reading the new posts...trying not to jump in and cause issues that could get me blacklisted...

quick question for BWA....how exactly did you communicate w/ mr Rodgers? i have tried emails / PMs / ebay communications / other forums ALL without any reply. for way too long! does anyone have a phone number for mr Rodgers?

since i'm getting nothing from him privately...at what point do i ask for my money back publicly? and when will a post be submitted to the 'watch-out' section to warn others? i'm sorry but i have lost hope Pellaeon. i paid $700 in MAY and received zero as of today...12/12/2006. i guess my only hope for refund is thru mr Rodgers himself...

POOP HAPPENS to everyone. sometimes it's bad and it's deep. but people can always make time. i have had a wacky few years myself and have had to take several breaks from the hobby for various levels of personal issues, but i've always made the time to fulfill my obligations to others...no matter what the situation.

BWA
12-13-2006, 06:33 AM
I've communicated only through e-mails but as I earlier said, I haven't gotten a single mail since I made payment http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

AlexSWE
12-13-2006, 01:20 PM
Hi guys, this is a mess and i have a couple of freds that is inwolved. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif
I can add that 12/6 i bought a unpainted PBP Zuckuss in baggie, it is a QC sample sent from PBP to Palitoy.
I bought the figure from Daniel Patrick whos dad use to have worked for palitoy, but i made the deal/payed through William Rodgers (Billyboy who also tipt me of the figure in the first place) Paypalacount, why i donīt remember. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif
It could have been because that Daniel didnīt have any or the facts that the item should take itīs way past Billy for playing a part in his upcomming book.
Since i was allready awere of the situation with peopele waiting for their stuff, i told Daniel that he could very well send it to Billy, but he had to take respnsability for that it after visiting Billy continued itīs jurny towards me.
It all went perfectly well, i receved my Zuckuss after about 2-3 weeks if i donīt remember it wrong, anyway there were no problem.

I donīt know if this is bad or good news to you guys, but i thought i should tell you the story.
I hold my thumbs for you all, itīs nice stuff and therefor the more hurting if not ariving,
both economically and personnaly as collectors. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I also beleve that Billy is a nice guy, who have/has some sad and serious familyproblems. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif
But itīs been a long time now...

BWA
01-01-2007, 07:05 PM
Any news at all regarding Billy?

Pellaeon
01-03-2007, 12:53 PM
I just sent another email last week, no response.

XIANTOYS
01-12-2007, 02:51 PM
hello and happy friday to all. well its been another MONTH since my last post on this issue and no contact has been made. another month of emails/PMs/eBay msgs and still no reply.

Bill Rodgers----i want my money back.

any UK folks live near mr Rodgers and can verify his status?

JohnA
01-12-2007, 03:24 PM
any UK folks live near mr Rodgers and can verify his status?



I emailed a guy from another board that knows him. Apparently, he is still waiting for stuff too. He spoke to a family member recently and he said since he is not so far he may take a trip. I told him to get all he could (if he were inclined to mail) as I'm sure by this point people waiting for stuff would pay an extra couple of dollars for another guy to ship. It's better than nothing and the difference could be made up later by Bill. We'll see if he makes the trip or not. I don't know him well but I knew he knew Bill so I figured it was worth a shot. I'll update if he gives me any news for you guys.

John

Adam_Burges
01-12-2007, 03:33 PM
I have posted msg's to him also. I have known him for a long time as a collector and although I have made quite a few deals with him in the past that have gone smoothly I haven't saved his address. If anyone has it then shoot it to me, I will write him or see if anyone I know down south can pop by.

I know this is taking a long time but i'm sure he will come through, I really doubt its in his nature to york everyone.

JohnA
01-12-2007, 04:07 PM
I really doubt its in his nature to york everyone.



Low blow. At this point they are about even and York actually sent out stuff so he's ahead. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

John

Adam_Burges
01-12-2007, 04:26 PM
well i didn't get what I paid for, but they both still have the time to amend things.

The_Twisted_Sithster
01-12-2007, 06:59 PM
I really hope things pan out so that everyone gets what they're waiting for very soon, and that the circumstances in Bill's life that have prevented him from following through thus far work out favorably for him.

Bill is on the short list of the best people I ever dealt with during my time in the hobby, and these circumstances are very uncharacteristic of my personal experiences with him. When I was avidly collecting, he helped me get a ton of Vader items that were only available in the UK or elsewhere in Europe, and even though his job took him away at times, he always kept in touch and was pretty prompt in completing pending deals.

I'm sorry to hear that there appear to be events going on in his life that have really thrown him off that track, and I wish him all the best. FWIW, I too still believe that he will make everything right in the end, as I believe he's at root an incredibly committed collector and decent and standup person.

That said, I totally understand the frustration of those who have paid for items long ago and haven't yet received them. Best wishes to all involved.

Chad

_Robbie_
01-12-2007, 07:06 PM
Bill will not let you down!

ThorOakenfelder
01-12-2007, 07:23 PM
Just seeing this thread pop up mnth after month and seeing Billyboy outbid me on several items on ebay in that time makes me not want to deal with him in future. He may be an awesome guy, and he may be able to find stuff I's never be able to track down on my own, but this thread has made me decide not to deal with him if I see him sell anything in future on here or ebay.

Pellaeon
01-12-2007, 08:15 PM
JohnA if he does make the trip to visit Bill I would gladly pitch in. Please PM me if he does so.

Thanks, John G.

garindan
01-13-2007, 06:17 AM
Just seeing this thread pop up mnth after month and seeing Billyboy outbid me on several items on ebay in that time makes me not want to deal with him in future.



If he has time to go and bid on eBay for things he also has time to come on here too and answer the accusations being layed down against him. It also shows he must have access to email - hence for some reason he isn't replying to people. I have spoken to Billy on email several times and he doesn't strike me as a thief, but at the end of the day by doing what he is doing right now he is not making it look this way.

Andrew

Leif_G
01-15-2007, 12:52 PM
Just seeing this thread pop up mnth after month and seeing Billyboy outbid me on several items on ebay in that time makes me not want to deal with him in future.



If he has time to go and bid on eBay for things he also has time to come on here too and answer the accusations being layed down against him. It also shows he must have access to email - hence for some reason he isn't replying to people. I have spoken to Billy on email several times and he doesn't strike me as a thief, but at the end of the day by doing what he is doing right now he is not making it look this way.

Andrew



Read up guys. I believe this issue has already been dealt with and IIRC someone else (relatives) are using his eBay account.

Regardless, there's really no excuse for this situation. The tiny amount of effort & time it takes to maintain some small measure of communication makes it a complete joke to even suggest that there's some reasonable explanation for not doing so. In my experience most buyers would be fine with delays if they at least had some sort of communication from the seller. When you can't do that, you're not worthy of a good reputation.

Leif

Spidey_Seth
01-15-2007, 05:10 PM
Just seeing this thread pop up mnth after month and seeing Billyboy outbid me on several items on ebay in that time makes me not want to deal with him in future.



If he has time to go and bid on eBay for things he also has time to come on here too and answer the accusations being layed down against him. It also shows he must have access to email - hence for some reason he isn't replying to people. I have spoken to Billy on email several times and he doesn't strike me as a thief, but at the end of the day by doing what he is doing right now he is not making it look this way.

Andrew



Read up guys. I believe this issue has already been dealt with and IIRC someone else (relatives) are using his eBay account.
Leif




I am not in any type of deal with Billy so I have no comment on the lack or replies. But I would like to play Devils Advocate here...
If his relative is bidding on auctions for him, his relative must be quite knowledgable. How does he know what to bid on without Billys advise?. Its not like he has a list and if they pop up to go for it. If he does have a list then whats on it, everything HTF and obscure that his relative would know the ins and outs. And if he did make a list, thats a lot of time and effort he obviously does not have. I would think Billy has to be in touch in order to buy the correct items. His account is bidding on choice items, not just non coo figures. Seems like his relative is pretty smart to be able to go it alone. If his relative is that smart then how come he cant be smart enough to ship out what is owed. From reading this thread, in my eyes I think Billy is doing the ebay buying himself. he just is not home to ship, thats where the problem is. It seems like a lot of emphasis is on acquiring items for the book, just no effort to make good on shipping items he sold.

Leif_G
01-15-2007, 05:47 PM
All good points Seth. There's just too much that smells wrong with this situation.

Rain
01-17-2007, 04:15 PM
I have kept out of this discussion as it sounds like Bill has enough on his plate to deal with but recent events have occured that I think I should share with you. Sorry for the length of the post but I would rather lay out all the facts than keep something hidden. I know Bill has been a respected member on these boards for a while and my reasons for posting are not to have a swipe at Bill but to let everyone know know what occurred so you can make up your own minds.

Firstly I have dealt with Bill in the past and we have exchanged emails and I have I bought three "bundles" of goodies from him, all took ages to arrive, 2 apparently damaged at the source post office and had to be replaced and sent but I still got the goods (and I am sorry to hear that a lot of you are still waiting http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif).

I had an issue with a certain Ebay user appearing to outbid me when I bid on an item, this was happening frequently but I thought this was another collector and fair play, as they were stumping up a fair amount of money and driving a lot of the (mainly UK) paper work prices up. I talked about this ebayer with Bill (amongst others) who stated it was someone he knew, so I emailed him/her to see if they were up for trading (the user name by the way is "PALITOYSWADS"). I got no reply and I know at least one other member who has tried to contact them but again got no reply. Time goes by and I loose out to this ebayer but think that they must be a dedicated collecter (or at least a collector with a lot more money than me http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif). The penny dropped after I was bidding on a particular piece of paperwork that Bill wanted for his book so as a decent collector I stepped aside and stopped bidding (even refusing to enter into a bidding war outside of ebay as the seller obviously knew he was onto a good thing http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif)

Bill went on to win the item (Palitoywads did not appear which I thought was a little strange as this would have been the type of item that he / she would usually go for). As luck would have it another surfaced a few weeks later so I bid high and hoped for the best. Suprise Suprise, Palitoyswads poped up and went high as well pushing me up to the limit and the exact price Bill had discussed with me as being the market price. Bill even sent me a mail congratulating me on beating this bidder!!!! I was starting to get suspicious so I carried out a little search on Palitoyswads items that they had won to see if they had ever been in competition with Bill, I found no two items that both had bid on, again strange as they seemed to be interested in the same type of items.

I then heard from a couple of collectors who told me that they had sold to Palitoyswads and they sent the items to the same address as Bills. This has been confirmed by a few more sellers. Therefore understandably I was a little annoyed at this behaviour. To behave this way to another colector is a bit bad. I have not really had a chance to raise this with Bill as Ruth fell ill, and I do feel bad about this part as I should have raised it with him as soon as I had suspicions but I wanted to be 100% sure before mentoining it.

All this would have been dealt with betwen us outside of these forums except for the more recent behaviour http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif.

Both Bill and myself bid on the same types of items, fact! I have no problem with this as long both agree that this is the case and behaviour like that seen is not carried out. I have followed this thread and see all sides but agree with one thing and that is that if Bill has time to bid he should have time to sort out the backlog of problems that have arisen.

Bill has stopped bidding, and Palitoyswads has not appeared so maybe he (or his relative) is sorting out the backlog of errors. Alas not so.....

I got suspicious of a bidder Old_timer_toys as this bidder appeared on a lot of items I was watching. The bidder registered back in November 2006 ( around the time people were asking questions)and so once again I dug around a bit and would you belive it the sellers are sending their items to Bill Rodgers at his home address http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Sorry but in my opinion this is just wrong, instead of answering the critics on this post it appears he has opened up another ebay acount to deflect any criticisms on his part.

Bill, I am really sorry about Ruth and I pray to god that she recovers and all is well but please explain why the behavior. I am not some naive young collector but I like to think I can trust some people on the forum and you were one of them.

Once again folks sorry for the length......

Sowth
01-18-2007, 09:42 AM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I'm sure I'm not the only one that's hoping like hell that everything you described is just a coincidence. EG: Does his nephew live with him?

It certainly doesn't fit with the impression of Bill that I have formed over the last few years here.

Bill if you are reading this, just make a post brother. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Will

sotoam
01-18-2007, 10:51 AM
Yes Bill, please make a post, as in go to the POST office and send some parcels. I have stayed out of this for a long time because of the personal issues that have been happening with you, but after seeing that you are still an active eBayer, I'm not going to stay quiet any longer.

You sent me an e-mail in September that you were putting my package in the mail. Well, it is now almost February. We're going on 5 months for that "package". This package is supposed to be a replacement for the 2 that were "lost in the mail" from the deal we made in 2005. Yes, folks, that is 2 YEARS I have been waiting for Bill to send something to me. Y-E-A-R-S

What's the deal Bill? Why do you have time to buy and sell on eBay, but not take care of the business that you have with fellow scummers that trusted you? It's a sad day when a trusted scummer goes bad, and unfortunately, I think that's what happened here.

Pellaeon
01-18-2007, 11:17 AM
I really wish people would have spoke up sooner. After hearing about something that has taken 2 years to make it right and still havent I would not have likely made this deal.

sotoam
01-18-2007, 12:35 PM
I really wish people would have spoke up sooner. After hearing about something that has taken 2 years to make it right and still havent I would not have likely made this deal.



Sorry I didn't speak up earlier, but it had been because Bill was still communcating with me. He suddenly stopped not long after this thread was opened. In my defense though, this thread was opened in June of last year. It appears that your deal happened some time after that, so people were raising caution flags out there.

Pellaeon
01-18-2007, 01:05 PM
No fault of yours, my deal started May of 06.

daxvader
01-18-2007, 01:14 PM
Yes, folks, that is 2 YEARS I have been waiting for Bill to send something to me. Y-E-A-R-S



If it were me, I would file a report with the police in the UK. In my book, if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck... You might not get your money back but if enough people file, the police will act. The chances are, from what others have contributed, they probably have a filing cabinet of complaints already.
Good luck.

Elliott
01-18-2007, 02:23 PM
Several of you know me from other forums, and a couple of you have spoken to me regarding Bill.I am the person who John mentioned as being willing to travel down to Bills place to pick up and post any items I could get, if one of Bills family were willing to meet me. which of course I still am.
I will say that I have the utmost respect for Bill, his knowledge and willingness to help other collectors is well known around the world, and it is a great shame that forces outside his control have tarnished this reputation. I would also like to point out that I am owed quite a few items, and at quite a large price tag, so Im not just trying to stick up for him...Im in the same boat as you guys.
I have spoken to some of his family members, over the past week or so, and have received this email, which I was asked to pass on the information-




Ruth & Bill have been away for an extended holiday, from when Ru was finally released from hospital on Xmas eve. I'm very pleased to say, that despite suffering a considerable amount, Ru is now fully recovered; so they are both returning home well rested. We had all thought they would be coming home a lot sooner in fact but they understandably wanted to spend some quality time on their own in France. We only saw them together as a family on Xmas day and then they departed to our holiday home in Provence.

Both of them will be back this weekend as they are returning to work on Monday morning, despite Ru's employers not putting her under any pressure to do so. This whole situation with the delayed post is a disaster however! Shirley had asked Alistair to head down to Brighton and send off the mail as planned, only for him to get crossed communications with his Cousin Lewis in Worthing about who was to post it all off. It has now turned out to our utter dismay that both of them had truly believed the other had dealt with it all. Even at Xmas they had agreed together that it had all been sent off with us. We have annoyingly discovered that this is sadly not the case at all. We are furious about this. I can only offer you a truly ashamed apology from all of us and now endeavour to help Bill to get it all sorted when they return.

Bill & Ru are still oblivious to all of this. They had neglected to take their phones with them; probably quite intentionally too. Despite numerous emails, Bill has obviously not taken the opportunity to check his mail even once whilst they've been away. Bill is not only returning to these terrible postal problems but (text removed due to personal nature)

Bill has been nothing but an utter hero in our eyes and has literally stood by Ru for morale support for a fair few stressful months. He will now return to this mess with his post still unresolved (text removed due to personal nature). Including the fact that Bill has to also sort out his overly prolonged publishing deadline, his delayed production work and now apologise to everyone; I don't think I can even begin to express how concerned we all are.

All Shirl & I can do now is help them both when they return home and hope that 2007 is a better year for us all. If you could kindly pass on the message that the delayed mail is all still neglected in Brighton and that Bill has not intended to cheat you all but will in fact communicate with everyone concerned as soon as he is back.

I can only shake my head in dismay and say sorry again for the entire [censored] up.

Rik.



I dont really have any more to add to the situation, except to say, if anyone who is owed items, money, information etc, feel free to pm me, and if I can help in anyway I shall, as I imagine Bill will return to chaos, and if I can give him a concise list of those waiting and their items, it may help.

Elliott

Lee_Gray
01-18-2007, 02:35 PM
I myself like Bill and not got involved in this thread as it has diddly squat to do with me but I hope he gets things sorted out

Some things in that email do sound a bit fishy though.

On another note good to see Ruth is ok.

Pellaeon
01-18-2007, 02:37 PM
Fishy yes, but any hope is great! I have PMd you Elliott with all my contact information.

daxvader
01-18-2007, 02:46 PM
This whole situation with the delayed post is a disaster however! Shirley had asked Alistair to head down to Brighton and send off the mail as planned, only for him to get crossed communications with his Cousin Lewis in Worthing about who was to post it all off. It has now turned out to our utter dismay that both of them had truly believed the other had dealt with it all. Even at Xmas they had agreed together that it had all been sent off with us.


Having been on ebay for four years, I have encountered a handful of ebayers who have reeled off excuse after excuse so I can't see how this could happen. How tricky is it for two people to decide between them who posts the items?
I think even Laurel and Hardy could have posted the items by now.

BWA
01-18-2007, 02:59 PM
I agree with dax... nothing surprises me anymore...

but let's give 'em a shot :-)

PM to you Elliott!

sotoam
01-18-2007, 03:12 PM
Elliott,

I sent you a PM.

Mattias_Rendahl
01-18-2007, 03:17 PM
Thanks for the update Elliot, I really appriciate all the time and effort you've put in this.


Maybe it's about time that we, who are involved, start to talk in private instead!?
I don't think the situation gets any better by people, that aren't involved, post their
clever opinions.

But let's hope everything will be all right, and everybody recieve their parcels soon.

Mattias

Delboy75
01-18-2007, 03:36 PM
Cheers Elliot, pm sent your way.

AlexSWE
01-18-2007, 05:22 PM
That was nice to heare Elliot.
Both about Ruth and that the sun may be rising over this.
Personally i only have good things to say about Bill.
I really hope this comes to an end that everybody can accept.

Now like Matias said, let us leave this to those involved to solve.
I canīt se what good it brings posting here and poring fuel on the flames when not involved.

XIANTOYS
01-19-2007, 02:50 PM
sorry...but i'm not holding my breath. i'll believe it when i see it.
and IF i ever see it....i'll be looking at them under a microscope.

sotoam
01-19-2007, 02:54 PM
sorry...but i'm not holding my breath. i'll believe it when i see it.
and IF i ever see it....i'll be looking at them under a microscope.



I know I came out rather angry in my "open post to Bill", but I will say this, I have never known him to send off fakes. He is able to find some of the most obscure vintage Star Wars collectibles out there, and he's been doing photo shoots for a book on his findings. That being said, IF you ever get what is owed to you from Bill, it is just about 100% guaranteed to be an original item and not a fake.

Leif_G
01-21-2007, 08:50 PM
That being said, IF you ever get what is owed to you from Bill, it is just about 100% guaranteed to be an original item and not a fake.



Is that because he's too honest to send someone a fake, or too smart to send someone a fake? I ask because the whole honesty thing isn't looking too good right now.

Leif

sotoam
01-21-2007, 11:22 PM
That being said, IF you ever get what is owed to you from Bill, it is just about 100% guaranteed to be an original item and not a fake.



Is that because he's too honest to send someone a fake, or too smart to send someone a fake? I ask because the whole honesty thing isn't looking too good right now.

Leif



I would say neither. I don't know Bill personally, but when he and I were communcating and dealing regularly, he would express to me how much he loathed AFA loose figures because of the potential for it to destroy trhe baggie market. He would send me random e-mails in which he would excitedly tell me that he was hot on the trail of a Bradgate baggie, even though he knew I was not interested in those. He would send me photos of his latest find and tell me how excited he was to find that particular variation. I don't think he would send fakes because of his regard for Star Wars collecting. He is doing a book on Star Wars because of his love of collecting Star Wars. That's why I don't think he would send a fake.

The man has two loves in his life, Ruth and Star Wars. My thought is that he got sidetracked from his secondary love (Star Wars) because his primary love fell ill.

Leif_G
01-22-2007, 08:20 AM
I would say neither...

...I don't think he would send fakes because of his regard for Star Wars collecting. He is doing a book on Star Wars because of his love of collecting Star Wars. That's why I don't think he would send a fake.



Yeah, that sounds reasonable. I could accept that a person could be counted on in that respect, based on their loathing of things that ruin the hobby. Then again the stress of an unfullfileld transaction can also ruin the hobby for someone.





The man has two loves in his life, Ruth and Star Wars. My thought is that he got sidetracked from his secondary love (Star Wars) because his primary love fell ill.



You may be correct. That may be what's happened. But in this forum I doubt there's anything exceptional about a person whose two loves are his wife/family and Star Wars. I know from personal experience that having a deathly ill wife is traumatic, but in my case I stopped all eBay activity and still managed to conclude all of transactions successfully. There's still no good reason/excuse for letting people down like he has.

On top of that, the whole eBay thing is simply bizarre. Multiple accounts buying under his name, near comedic mailing mishaps. Even the transition from deathbed to vacation without any possibility of contact. Sorry, not swallowing any of that.

daxvader
01-22-2007, 11:32 AM
I completely agree with Dakk. Although I am fortunate enough not to have a vested interest in terms of an incomplete transaction, I don't see how this should mean that I should not be able to articulate an opinion.
Reading through post after post, I still keep asking myself, 'What has to happen before people stop believing?' I understand that it is good to give people a second chance, especially under such circumstances. However, there are too many questions and doubts, as highlighted by Dakk above.
As stated in my above post, I would be contacting the police and filing a report. They will build up a profile and, enough evidence comes in (in the form of reports), they will act.
Good luck to all those concerned.

Lee_Gray
01-22-2007, 02:27 PM
Tis true if it is posted on a public forum then the public should be allowed their say http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

As it stands the email states Bill and Ruth both returned to work today so there is no reason in the world now for Bill not to log on for just 5 minutes tonight after work and clear the air http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

garindan
01-23-2007, 02:25 PM
Another vote for Dakk here. Personally I think it is time some people woke up and smelt the coffee. Is someone honestly believing this is all true? The email stuff is simply farsical.

XIANTOYS
01-27-2007, 04:17 PM
SO....anyone talk to mr Rodgers yet?

...didn't think so..

BWA
01-27-2007, 05:13 PM
I was going to file a complaint against him on the 23rd but his son mailed me the evening before sayin he was lucky to get to me in time and that he would post my package friday or saturday (yesterday or today that is)... that held me off for a week at least... Gotta follow up though in the next week which will be interesting...

dlloyd
01-27-2007, 05:28 PM
I'd be filing a claim with his local County Court.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/ManagingDebt/CourtClaimsAndBankruptcy/DG_10013083

He's laughing at you all.

Elliott
01-28-2007, 07:10 AM
I received this email today, after chasing up the last one which I posted.-

Bill & Ruth did get back exactly a week ago and I visited their home and picked up all the mail yesterday morning, alas by the time I got away from chatting to Ru and reached the Post Office it was 1pm and CLOSED! Thus I'm sending everything off myself tomorrow.

Ruth is now very well and has been back at work during the week, she was very concerned at the continued delay in mail. Meanwhile Bill has spent the entire week back on a shoot in Wales, catching up with his work colleagues on location. I know he was flabbergasted at the news about his mail (content removed due to personal nature). It's not been the best of times for the Rodgers family.

The only reason nobody has heard from Bill, was down to the fact that both his home Internet connection and mobile phone were cancelled by him last November, as he couldn't get to use either. Ruth confirmed that everything is due to be reconnected from the 1st of Feb'.

I expect Bill will be writing to everyone when he gets back from Wales next week.

Your good self and everyone in the UK should get Special Delivery parcels on Tuesday morning. Europeans should get their packages within about a week and the N. Americans should receive their parcels within two weeks. All foreign mail is going via International Signed For post, fully insured and tracked.

I hope this matter will calm down once everyone finally has their items in hand. It's been a bit of a nightmare for all of us.

Rik

So thats the state of play so far, hopefully the new posts from now on will be to announce that parcels have arrived.

Elliott

BWA
01-28-2007, 07:30 AM
I received a tracking number from Rik upon request this morning which I see as a good sign :-) Hope it turns out we all did the right thing here :-) MAY THE FORCE BE WITH US!

Adam_Burges
01-28-2007, 01:52 PM
I have also recieved an email from Rik after I sent a letter to Billys home. It says Billys phone and internet should be on after the 1st of feb so hopefully people shall start hearing from him in person soon. His wife is better and they are both back to work.

FWIW I think he will come through, I know people have been frustrated but just hang on that bit longer for him.

daxvader
01-28-2007, 04:27 PM
I have no vested interest aside from the fact that you never want to hear things go wrong for collectors but in one of your posts above you mentioned:



The only reason nobody has heard from Bill, was down to the fact that both his home Internet connection and mobile phone were cancelled by him last November, as he couldn't get to use either. Ruth confirmed that everything is due to be reconnected from the 1st of Feb'.




but then in the next post you mentioned:



Bill & Ru are still oblivious to all of this. They had neglected to take their phones with them; probably quite intentionally too. Despite numerous emails, Bill has obviously not taken the opportunity to check his mail even once whilst they've been away. Bill is not only returning to these terrible postal problems but (text removed due to personal nature)



These seem to contradict each other (unless I am reading it wrong).

I hope everything works out in the end.

Elliott
01-28-2007, 05:09 PM
I should point out dax, that I merely posted emails that I had received, so I cant shed any light on the content.

I should also point out that the two quotes you used are in the oposite order that I posted them.
In the context that they were posted, I would take them to mean, that in the first post, his brother in law, didnt realise that Bill had cancelled his email account, and in the second, after his conversation with Ruth, he was aware of the details, which is why he commented upon them?
but as I said earlier, I can only go by the same texts that you have all seen.

Leif_G
01-28-2007, 05:52 PM
I got suspicious of a bidder Old_timer_toys as this bidder appeared on a lot of items I was watching. The bidder registered back in November 2006 ( around the time people were asking questions)and so once again I dug around a bit and would you belive it the sellers are sending their items to Bill Rodgers at his home address http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif




So according to 'Rain', 'Old_timer_toys' is having items he purchased sent to Bill Rodgers at his home address, and it seems 'Old_timer_toys' has continued to bid on items right up til now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110082337816

Yet...



The only reason nobody has heard from Bill, was down to the fact that both his home Internet connection and mobile phone were cancelled by him last November, as he couldn't get to use either. Ruth confirmed that everything is due to be reconnected from the 1st of Feb'.




Something not adding up here. It would be great to hear a reasonable explanation for this.

Leif

PS - Not to mention you'd be hard pressed to go anywhere in the civiized world where you couldn't pop into a library or coffee shop to use a computer and Internet to check/send mail or post a few long over due PMs.

daxvader
01-29-2007, 01:22 AM
I should point out dax, that I merely posted emails that I had received, so I cant shed any light on the content.

I should also point out that the two quotes you used are in the oposite order that I posted them.
In the context that they were posted, I would take them to mean, that in the first post, his brother in law, didnt realise that Bill had cancelled his email account, and in the second, after his conversation with Ruth, he was aware of the details, which is why he commented upon them?
but as I said earlier, I can only go by the same texts that you have all seen.



My mistake. Sorry about posting in the wrong order and I realise that you are only trying to open the lines of communication. It does, however, seem strange that in such a situation, you would cancel your mobile phone. Also, an internet connection can be set up in 10 minutes and, as Dakk pointed out, you can go almost anywhere in the world and get access to the internet.
I'm hoping that, in a few weeks time, all of the deals will have come good but, at this point in time, I see nothing that supports this optimism.

Elliott
01-29-2007, 11:35 AM
Just to clarify- I do not have anyones packages, and I am not the one posting them.
I just posted the emails that I have received from Bill's brother in law.
a couple of those waiting for items have pm'ed me under the impression that I am doing the posting.
I am fine with anyone sending me a PM regarding any grievences relating to the matter, and will do everything I can to pass them on to Bill when he returnes from Location.

regards
Elliott

Delboy75
01-30-2007, 06:00 AM
Just had a call to say a special delivery parcel has arrived for me.
Gotta be my parcel off Bill as its all im waiting for and in that email RIK did say they would be posted monday. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Looks like there WILL be a good outcome for all involved.

Cheers to Elliot for chasing this up

Elliott
01-30-2007, 09:17 AM
Glad to hear it arrived, Del.
Mine also arrived today, and very pleased I am, with my box of unpainted bagged palitoy samples http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Pellaeon
01-30-2007, 11:26 AM
Oh man, I hope to hear items are coming to the states soon....please please please.. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

gary_smith
01-30-2007, 12:52 PM
I too have a parcel to go and collect.

Hopefully that'll be the one. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Delboy75
01-31-2007, 12:22 PM
Well just to confirm the parcel WAS my baggies and i'm well pleased with them http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Really great condition.

gary_smith
01-31-2007, 12:24 PM
Yep.

Got my stuff From bill and I'm very happy http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Pellaeon
01-31-2007, 12:43 PM
Glad to hear folks are getting their stuff! Anyone not in the UK getting anything yet?

garindan
02-05-2007, 04:49 PM
I'm glad people are getting their stuff finally. It is good news if everyone gets what they paid for, if more than a little late. Things just don't add up as to why it has taken so long but there goes. Hopefully all has ended well and if anything some lessons will have been learned by all involved here on both sides.

BWA
02-05-2007, 04:56 PM
Has ANYONE actually been in contact with Bill yet?

The_Twisted_Sithster
02-05-2007, 07:52 PM
Exceedingly glad to hear that the tide is moving that way. Hate to hear that so many people were waiting for so long, and equally unhappy to hear that there may have been very serious events in Bill's life to trigger these circumstances, but hope everything pans out (relatively speaking) for all involved in the end.

While I totally understand the frustration of those who have had to wait incredibly long periods of time, and think that frustration is totally valid, I'm glad to hear that my unflagging faith in Bill as a collector and as a person were well placed. As I've said before in this thread, he was one of the top-notch people I ever encountered in this hobby, and I wish him and his loved ones all the best. That said, I regret that so many dedicated and forthright collectors dispatched their end of their bargains with Bill so quickly, and were forced to wait so long to get their items.

Best wishes, and happy collecting, to all.

Chad

lumat
02-05-2007, 09:27 PM
has everyone gotten their stuff yet. i hate to see issues

PaulyMT
02-06-2007, 02:22 AM
has everyone gotten their stuff yet. i hate to see issues



nope, I am still waiting http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

sotoam
02-06-2007, 07:27 AM
has everyone gotten their stuff yet. i hate to see issues



Still waiting here in the US.

Pellaeon
02-06-2007, 09:08 AM
Still waiting in the US as well http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif It seems as though he has only shipped UK stuff so far.

daxvader
02-06-2007, 01:06 PM
It is good that people are receiving their items and hopefully the same will happen with the US buyers. However, with all of the positive comments that people have made, I am very surprised that all of the buyers have not been emailed or a post has not been made in this thread.

BWA
02-06-2007, 03:02 PM
I'm outside of UK (Sweden) and I have received my parcel http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif However, it was only very similar to the one I expected so I have contacted Bill for some explanations and I got ahold of Rik who has been very kind and helped me contact Bill (through him)... I'm sure everything will be solved to the better, at least in my case but I'm pretty sure that the guys on the other side of the pond will receive their goods as well http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Delboy75
02-06-2007, 03:28 PM
I think Bill is still away hence he's not posted on here.
I believe it is still Rik (a relative) that is doing the posting on Bills behalf.

I'm sure that the overseas parcel will start arriving soon.

Elliott
02-06-2007, 05:25 PM
Just to reiterate what Rik said in his email-


Your good self and everyone in the UK should get Special Delivery parcels on Tuesday morning. Europeans should get their packages within about a week and the N. Americans should receive their parcels within two weeks. All foreign mail is going via International Signed For post, fully insured and tracked.

- so, all Uk collectors should have received their items by now. those in Europe should be happy this week, and those in America and Canada, should finally be welcoming their loved ones next week.

Pellaeon
02-12-2007, 08:45 AM
So this is the week us North Americans should be happy. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Anybody in Europe other than BWA and our UK members get anything?

PaulyMT
02-12-2007, 10:30 AM
I am from europe and still don't have it http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

MartijnEmmelot
02-12-2007, 10:38 AM
</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font>
I am from europe and still don't have it

[/QUOTE]

...two times ditto here... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

~Martijn!

BWA
02-12-2007, 11:12 AM
I got mine, I'm very satisfied and I have actually made a new payment to Billy for some other stuff :-) I don't think you got anything to be worried about... the mail tends to be extraordinarily slow from UK sometimes... I've been waiting for weeks earlier before stuff has showed up... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

XIANTOYS
02-12-2007, 02:49 PM
perhaps i should wait for this week to end before i post...but WTF..yet another month has passed me by. another month of emails/PMs/voice msgs/ebay PMs/etc...just 3 months away from a year...HOWEVER...i did receive a note from Rik...a few weeks back...but absolutely nothing from mr Rodgers himself. this note from Rik does not make everything roses again...nor the reports of a few select folks getting their stuff...i still feel violated. i still feel frustrated...and growing more agitated every day that mr Rodgers chooses to ignore my requests. until my paid-for items arrive OR a full refund arrives...i will consider myself ripped off.

i must say...BWA...i am shocked that you are making another purchase from him...you better CYA man.

even IF i ever receive my paid-for items....and IF they appear to be OK....i will still be upset at the total disrespect from mr Rodgers...the lack of communication is unacceptable..time elapsed unacceptable. no matter how stressful his life may have been at the time...a simple email reply to all effected parties would take what..?? 30 seconds..i'm not expecting a personalized letter..but a quick status heads-up is all.

question...those who know mr Rodgers or met him face-to-face...are these guys the same people?

webshots billy? (http://community.webshots.com/user/billyboyrodgers)
(note the about me picture)

myspace billy? (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=78003963)
(if so...please note the last login date of this myspace account)

looks like it could be the same dude to me...and if so...WTF!

sotoam
02-12-2007, 02:53 PM
Have people that are getting stuff from Rik been contacted by him prior to the package arriving? I'm just asking because I haven't heard a thing from Bill or Rik or anyone else that could possibly be sending a package to me.

Delboy75
02-12-2007, 02:57 PM
Have people that are getting stuff from Rik been contacted by him prior to the package arriving? I'm just asking because I haven't heard a thing from Bill or Rik or anyone else that could possibly be sending a package to me.



No it just arrived, other than Elliot posting that the parcels were being despatched by Rik i've heard nothing.

To be honest i DO think everyone will get their stuff.

daxvader
02-12-2007, 03:06 PM
question...those who know mr Rodgers or met him face-to-face...are these guys the same people?

webshots billy? (http://community.webshots.com/user/billyboyrodgers)
(note the about me picture)

myspace billy? (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=78003963)
(if so...please note the last login date of this myspace account)

looks like it could be the same dude to me...and if so...WTF!


That looks like a good spot. The fact that his last login was 01/02/2007 is alarming. Surely a decent seller would post in this thread, thereby communicating with many of the buyers in one go.

dlloyd
02-12-2007, 03:38 PM
Nahh... couldn't be the same guy. Although this guy's a Star Wars figure obsessed filmaker from the UK called Billy Boy Rodgers, he's single.

daxvader
02-12-2007, 04:06 PM
Nahh... couldn't be the same guy. Although this guy's a Star Wars figure obsessed filmaker from the UK called Billy Boy Rodgers, he's single.


I think they are the same as there is just too many coincidences. The photo? The film link? The name?

BWA
02-12-2007, 04:16 PM
i must say...BWA...i am shocked that you are making another purchase from him...you better CYA man.




CYA? Anyhow, I can only respond to how I've been treated and I have gotten my stuff... but I may be a fool, time will show... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Leif_G
02-12-2007, 04:57 PM
are these guys the same people?

webshots billy? (http://community.webshots.com/user/billyboyrodgers)
(note the about me picture)

myspace billy? (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=78003963)
(if so...please note the last login date of this myspace account)

looks like it could be the same dude to me...and if so...WTF!



Wouldn't suprise me. After all, he is apparently still buying on eBay even though he can't seem to find the means to communicate with anyone directly (read up).

Leif

Lee_Gray
02-12-2007, 06:28 PM
Webshots folder is definately Bills as has the pics of him with the toys as a kid, too lazy to look at the other link http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Elliott
02-18-2007, 08:44 AM
Obviously some people still havent received their parcels yet. I have asked for reference numbers or a list of to whom items were posted. this is the response-

Hello Elliott,

Ruth here, Billy popped back for Valentines but besides that he has been working flat out from 8am in the morning until late into each night in the studio, office and on three different location shoots. He has a lot of production work to tweak and complete. His Co Producer Sally has been doing her nut, so she has him working all hours now in compensation.

Billy has a whole list of things to sort out at home. I'll email his brother in law Rick for the postal details. I think he is in New York right now so he may well not have them. I think Bill emailed Marc, Mattias, Elias and Steve. He had intended to email everyone with a personal apology but Sally n Stuart grabbed him and threw him into slavery. I'm due to go to hospital for a check up on Wednesday afternoon, so Bill will be home then for sure.

Please pass on my well wishes to everyone concerned. I know what a big stress this must have been for everyone. The items should all be on their way. Did you get your parcel Elliott?

Best wishes

Ru

-Nice to hear from Ruth again, hopefully everything else wil be resolved soon.
for what its worth, a myspace or msn account will show people on line until they sign out. if bill had logged in on a machine, possibly a shared machine, then everytime anyone starts that machine, it will show him as being online. I have no idea of the situation, but it is worth bearing in mind.
and as people have pointed out before, Bill has mentioned many times over the years that he has a list of wanted items and set 'searches' on ebay, and several people who check them for him. so I wouldnt jump to the conclusion that he is sat bidding on items behind a plethora of guises.

Elliott

daxvader
02-18-2007, 09:41 AM
and as people have pointed out before, Bill has mentioned many times over the years that he has a list of wanted items and set 'searches' on ebay, and several people who check them for him. so I wouldnt jump to the conclusion that he is sat bidding on items behind a plethora of guises.

Elliott


Maybe those have bought items are not posting through fear that their items may not arrive but, as I did not buy anything, i feel that I can comment as I have no vested interest.
The whole situation just seems a farce. We all have busy and stressful lives but if you want to do something, you can always find the time. If you work from 8am until 10pm, why not post in this thread at 10.15pm? It would take fives minutes.
If I had got someone to carry out searches on ebay, I would want them to email me or call me before placing what would probably be a sizeable bid.
It is a shameful situation of which the only thing that you can be sure, is that the next barrel of excuses will be more creative than the last.

Mattias_Rendahl
02-19-2007, 04:53 AM
It is a shameful situation of which the only thing that you can be sure, is that the next barrel of excuses will be more creative than the last.



And you can be sure your next post will be more irrelevant and uninteresting than the last.


I've been in contact with Bill and I know he's working on solving the whole mess.
I'm sure everyone will recieve their stuff soon enough and that Bill personally
will contact each one of you.

Mattias

Lee_Gray
02-19-2007, 06:24 AM
Would be nice if he did contact the people he still owes items too as it is the least he can do really and maybe set some minds at ease

Elliott
02-19-2007, 06:59 AM
Re Daxvader </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font>
i feel that I can comment as I have no vested interest.

If I had got someone to carry out searches on ebay, I would want them to email me or call me before placing what would probably be a sizeable bid.



[/QUOTE]

....I'm not really sure what you point is with either of these comments.I don't mean to show a lack of respect, but I honestly cant see what your last post brings to this thread.

Leif_G
02-19-2007, 12:15 PM
And you can be sure your next post will be more irrelevant and uninteresting than the last.

I've been in contact with Bill and I know he's working on solving the whole mess.
I'm sure everyone will recieve their stuff soon enough and that Bill personally will contact each one of you.

Mattias




Some people might find some comfort in knowing that Bill has communicated with a few of you (even taking the time to start another transaction with BWA). Others might see it as a slap in the face. It's not for anyone here, including me, to invalidate the way others feel about this situation.

At this point, the only post that will really be of any interest would come from Bill himself. The rest has all been said before.

Leif

ThorOakenfelder
02-19-2007, 04:05 PM
At this point, the only post that will really be of any interest would come from Bill himself. The rest has all been said before.

Leif



Actually, I keep reading because I want to see the happy ending for everyone, so I think that people outside the EU posting that they received items would be interesting, nay gratifying. I am hoping greatly that there is a positive resolution for all involved.

Leif_G
02-19-2007, 05:37 PM
Yeah, it would be a great thing to see people getting their items. It goes without saying, that would be very good news. Of course, considering Bill's had some people's money for close to a year, and in at least one case 2 years... they're owed a lot more than that IMO.

Leif

Youthberg
02-19-2007, 06:44 PM
Iīve asked for a full refund, and I hope to get it. Been waiting since april last year, and just completely lost interest in getting the stuff I once bought.

Iīm writing this here because I havenīt got any replies to my last 4-5 e-mails, so Bill if You read this, please contact me.

//Fredrik

Pellaeon
02-19-2007, 08:18 PM
Everytime I see replies I get excited thinking maybe folks are getting their items, and that would mean I am closer to getting mine as well. A few weeks ago things were looking good, but it has been a bit since someone last received something.

garindan
02-20-2007, 06:18 AM
To be honest I think a lot of this farse would be calmed down somewhat by even just a single post by BillyBoy to suggest on this forum that he is good to his word and is sorting it all out, perhaps giving a deadline to have sorted it all by. I think the fact he hasn't bothered to find the 2/3 minutes to do this over the past however long is galling, even more so to think he has found the time to personally email his favoured clients. I can see how this would upset people! I have chat to Bill before and have thought he was a good chap, but this really is an inexcusible way to go about things. 3 minutes in the course of 6 months (or however long) should be a simple task for anyone......

Andrew

sotoam
02-20-2007, 10:24 AM
Anyone else receive their items yet? I'm still waiting. The US was supposed to receive their stuff last week. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Lafos
02-23-2007, 06:21 AM
Heīs currently bidding on one of my items. Iīll better send it tracked & insured !?

JohnnyD
02-23-2007, 07:03 AM
I was shopping around for some figures and came across billyboyrodgers bidding on some stuff so I took a look at his feedback because people had mentioned he had been bidding on stuff.If this:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=billyboyrodgers
is the same guy, you have to be kidding me. I'm stunned http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Pellaeon
02-23-2007, 10:20 AM
I noticed him bidding on Palitoy carded Yoda. Seeing that was a bit of a slap in the face. I really hope he gets this resolved soon.

toxictoyzz
02-23-2007, 10:29 AM
it is none of my business since i am currently not involved in any transactions with billy but if you look for a lily ledy carded luke jedi on ebay you'll also notice that he is even requesting pics to be sent to his email address but yet he doesn't answer anyone:

Q: PLEASE send further close-up macro images of the bubble sides to billyboystoys@*****.com [altered due to personal info] THANKS!
Feb-22-07
A: Hi, i have added more detailed photos to the listing above. Thanks.

i tried to contact billy many times regarding some items and some info but he doesn't reply so that's why i am also a little bit disappointed. i usually got great info from him.

i really hope that he'll get everything sorted out soon and that he'll be back on the boards soon, giving his great advice and infos.

daxvader
02-23-2007, 11:41 AM
And you can be sure your next post will be more irrelevant and uninteresting than the last.
I've been in contact with Bill and I know he's working on solving the whole mess.
I'm sure everyone will recieve their stuff soon enough and that Bill personally
will contact each one of you.



It must be my mistake. I thought this was a public forum.
Some members have been waiting months and months for their items which disgusts me. The fact that he hasn't even bothered to post in this thread to offer those that have bought from him a little reassurance disgusts me. The fact that Elliott has posted an email from Ru stating that he is so busy that he cannot even get access to a computer and yet he has been in contact with several of his buyers suggests that someone is lying.
The whole thing is just full of contradictions and the fact that no international sales have been finalised is utterly disgraceful.
He is bidding on things on ebay (don't give me that rubbish that it is his family members) and he has managed to begin another deal and yet he cannot post in this thread.
Although I have not bought from him, I have had my fair share of ebayers try to rip me off and that is why I feel so strongly about sellers such as this.
Everybody has problems but the continued poor communications speak volumes on someone's character and integrity.

daxvader
02-23-2007, 11:43 AM
Re Daxvader </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font>
i feel that I can comment as I have no vested interest.

If I had got someone to carry out searches on ebay, I would want them to email me or call me before placing what would probably be a sizeable bid.





....I'm not really sure what you point is with either of these comments.I don't mean to show a lack of respect, but I honestly cant see what your last post brings to this thread.

[/QUOTE]
My point is that saying that Bill is too busy to even access a computer is a complete lie. How can he bid on ebay as well as begin new transactions, not to mention the fact that some have said that he has been in touch with a select few.
Lies, lies and more lies.

XIANTOYS
02-23-2007, 12:18 PM
i'll say it again...

BillyBoyRoders...i want my money back!!!

please note the last login on BillyBoys myspace page!!!

JohnnyD
02-23-2007, 07:35 PM
My point is that saying that Bill is too busy to even access a computer is a complete lie. How can he bid on ebay as well as begin new transactions...



and when you check out his feedback and see how regularly he has been bidding, 55 purchases in Dec alone, its quite simply jaw dropping.I know people said he has a wish list so others can bid for him but seriously, that must be him bidding.No ones wish list can be that long.
I didn't realise how badly people had been taken for a ride.
Come on billyboy, you're obviously reading this.How about you start PMing people and sort it out.

lumat
02-26-2007, 01:05 PM
has anyone in the USA received their items yet. This really saddens me to see people are taken for a ride like this.

if anyone out there is like me, the second i order something, i want it in my hand. if there was something i really wanted and it took months or even years, it would drive me nuts

Pellaeon
02-26-2007, 01:36 PM
Right with ya buddy. I cant even get Bill to answer my emails sadly.

Lee_Gray
02-26-2007, 02:04 PM
How many people are still waiting for their items then ?

PaulyMT
02-27-2007, 05:36 AM
I am waiting (for allmost a year now) and I know martijn71 is still waiting.

Lafos
02-27-2007, 06:32 AM
Well, he bid on one of my items last week - so heīs still active out there. Isnīt any RS member living near his residence ... ?!

PaulyMT
02-27-2007, 06:37 AM
Well, he bid on one of my items last week - so heīs still active out there. Isnīt any RS member living near his residence ... ?!



put a note in the box that people are waiting for packages http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Pellaeon
02-27-2007, 09:18 AM
I am also still waiting, since May/June. Elliott, are you still willing to drop by Bill's house to get these figures for everyone?

imperialgunnar
02-27-2007, 11:08 AM
I've been waiting for about six months now.
And like for so many others. Not a word from Bill since payment was made. But I've got to hand it to him, he was very helpful and answered a lot of questions I had before that. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Leif_G
02-27-2007, 12:00 PM
At this point people are probably a bit reluctant to offer any further explanations on Bill's behalf... at least they should be. Still, something tells me we're about to receive another third party email message from Ruth or Rik trying to explain everything away. Maybe it will be revealed that Bill's time, in reality, is much more valuable than everyone else's because he's actually a super hero, busy saving the world on a daily basis. Honestly, is there any explanation that will make sense & appease the wronged? Think hard Bill.

Leif

daxvader
02-27-2007, 12:40 PM
What I would be doing is get someone in the UK to compile all of the details of everybody's transactions and then file a report with the police. It sounds as if there are many people involved which will amount to a lot of money. I am sure that the police would be very interested and you may discover that things start to happen when the police get involved.

XIANTOYS
02-27-2007, 01:00 PM
What I would be doing is get someone in the UK to compile all of the details of everybody's transactions and then file a report with the police. It sounds as if there are many people involved which will amount to a lot of money. I am sure that the police would be very interested and you may discover that things start to happen when the police get involved.




i'm up for that. who else is in? i'm waiting for my refund..or my parcel..or an email..or a return phone call..or PM..or anything at all at this point. none of which i believe i will get without police intervention...sadly.

i think we all have waited long enough and should seriously consider taking some sort of action along these lines.

Pellaeon
02-27-2007, 04:30 PM
It greatly saddens me that it has come to that, but yes I would take part http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Leif_G
02-27-2007, 04:53 PM
FYI...

I received a message from an anonymous member who included the quoted text of a message they received from Ruth using the eBay account 'billyboyrodgers'.

In the message Ruth says that Bill was away until that evening. The message was sent a week ago (Feb 20th).

The message also requests pictures be sent to Bill. Evidently, Ruth expected Bill to have the time to check out pictures of an item he might be interested in purchasing.

Ruth.... perhaps Bill's time would be better spent emailing people to explain why he's taken their money and given them nothing in return. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Leif

The_Twisted_Sithster
02-27-2007, 08:31 PM
As anyone who reads back through this thread can see, I've been one of those who has steadfastly held out hope that all would be made right here once things stabilized in Bill's personal life (based on my flawless past experiences with Bill several years ago, during the heyday of my collecting life).

I still hold out some real measure of hope that everything will be made right in the end, but in light of all the circumstantial water under the bridge, if I was in the shoes of those directly affected by this situation, I wouldn't accept that as any palatable consolation.

While I still think the world of Bill personally, based on my own personal experiences with him years ago, and while I can totally empathize with the disruptions of serious personal and familial issues, at this point, it doesn't seem like he deserves much, if any, forgiveness or benefit of the doubt.

This is assuming, of course, that info posted here about Ruth's turn for the better and the resumption of his job duties, and--most significantly, his intervening and ongoing online activity--are true. If all of that is true, then I have to finally admit this situation is beyond reasonable excuse. At the very least, people who have been waiting for stuff for upwards of one year (ridiculous!) at least deserve some sort of contact from Bill explaining/apologizing and setting a clear timetable for resolution.

Sorry to see this all happen. There are certainly more important things than this hobby, and people need to be rational and understanding and all, but this set of circumstances has crossed a line into ridiculousness.

I still think those of you waiting may well get your stuff in the end, but if you're not in a mood to be too forgiving about the wait, I think you're entirely justified.

Best wishes to all involved.

Chad

XIANTOYS
03-01-2007, 11:47 AM
just so you all know....i added this post to warn others.

BillyBoy buyers beware (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=5&Number=2429375&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2429375)

my patience is long gone. i want my money back damnit.

Jediman
03-04-2007, 06:18 PM
I cant belive how Billy can disrespect a number of fine collectors in this matter. Pure disrespect Billy! I was lucky and got my figures quick and my dealings with his has always been good but this is just to much. There is what I know of at least 2 collectors in Sweden (imperialgunnar and Youthberg) that is waiting for their stuff now almost 1 year and Billy ignore them.
Those of you that say they recently spoke to Mr Rogers why is there no official update from them or from Billy himself in this thread or to the fellow collectors that is missing out on the stuff they paid for?
Yeh I know sorry for the blabla but to me contacting the police or pay him a visit would be the next right step to take here. Just look at all the evidence in this thread against Billy. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Edit: Added the names of the 2 Swedish collectors that is waiting for their stuff.

daxvader
03-05-2007, 01:28 AM
If someone wants to pm me (or email me at daxearles@yahoo.com) all of his details (email address, ebay ID, address, etc), I will contact his local police station and see what processes need to be but in place in order to file a report in order to secure a prosecution. This will be treated with 100% discretion. I will then post what they said and how is best to proceed.

BWA
03-05-2007, 08:59 AM
A few recent facts:

-I have received my 2nd order from Bill containing figures for Ģ350

-I have informed Bill of your intentions. According to him, he has been involved in several shootings and all the packages have been sent out, even though some were a little delayed. One delayed arrived Saturday and another one today. He intends to post here ASAP.

Now, these are MERE FACTS, so don't post to try and convince ME that he should have had time to post here because I'm just relaying what he answered me when I advised him to post here. He didn't instruct me to post this either, I did it on my own...

I don't take sides, I can only speak for myself and I have gotten what I have paid for. A note though is that I see no reason why I should have received special treatment as I'm neither a big name in the world of Star Wars collectíng, nor have I been a member of this forum for very long... and I'm not an old-time personal friend to Billy either... I sincerely hope more delayed packages start to turn up soon...

Leif_G
03-05-2007, 10:50 AM
... even though some were a little delayed.



That's a joke, right? Almost a year is 'a little delayed'?

BWA
03-05-2007, 01:44 PM
(I think he means compared to when Rik said he would send them out)

garindan
03-07-2007, 04:28 AM
A few recent facts:
He intends to post here ASAP.




Yeah no rush. There are only several people who are owed stuff here that are really p****d off with Bill after all. To say he'll post here ASAP is, in my opinion, a complete lack of respect.

Life goes on though. I'm sure he has loved having everyone's money in the bank accruing him interest.

Andrew

PaulyMT
03-09-2007, 09:45 AM
any sign of life from Bill?

I am waiting almost a year now and still no package

c'mon Bill post the damn figs!!!!!!!!!! ( I am 100% sure you read this topic)

Pellaeon
03-09-2007, 10:24 AM
None here. Is there anyone in the UK that would consider what DAK mentioned. I have been waiting for 6 months and I know of several other fellas who have waited far longer for their items. It seems as though it is about that time to report this to authorities.

daxvader
03-09-2007, 11:19 AM
None here. Is there anyone in the UK that would consider what DAK mentioned. I have been waiting for 6 months and I know of several other fellas who have waited far longer for their items. It seems as though it is about that time to report this to authorities.


I mentioned above that if someone could email me (at daxearles@yahoo.com) his details ie name, address, ebay ID, etc., I will contact the police and see what needs to be done. As I mentioned before, the police would definitely investigate it and, with so many people involved, there would be a good chance of a prosecution. Please email me the details.

XIANTOYS
03-09-2007, 01:01 PM
as far as i'm concerned...anything from mr Rodgers would be considered 'tainted' and null and void. i do not want his goods anymore..i want my money back. i am creeping close to a year now..(May 2006)...i could have whittled my own IG88 sample from wood by this time! and so could mr Rodgers.

something to note...i added billyboyrodgers as a friend to my webshots account and received an auto reply that he just updated his account info on FEB 27th...

his myspace last login still shows as FEB 21...

his ebay feedback left for others shows MAR 6th...

yet still has not replied to my emails/PMs/etc/etc...

think mr Rodgers will show his face at the celebration europe event??

daxvader
03-09-2007, 02:47 PM
I have received a couple of emails with details and I will now contact the police to see how it is best to proceed. I will then post details in this thread and the other one in the 'Watch out' section so that those who have been ripped off can begin prosecuting.

daxvader
03-09-2007, 03:11 PM
have just phoned the police in Sussex and have spoken to an investigator down there. I have provided information to them about the nature and scale of the problem. They have given me a reference number which is 1550 (9th March) which they said to quote. If you are outside of the UK, they said to contact your local police force and they will, in turn, contact the police in West Sussex. If you are in the UK, contact your local police and they will do the same. Alternatively contact them on 0845 60 70 999. I asked if you could report it directly to them if you are outside the UK and they said no but she did say that they would definitely respond and investigate any requests from foreign police agencies. The best thing to do is to get in touch with you local police force asap. Quote the reference that I have given you ( 1550 (9th March) ) and then things will kick into action.

Corey
03-09-2007, 03:27 PM
i am creeping close to a year now..(May 2006)...



The thread linked to here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=1939801&Forum=,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=9&Limit=25&Main=1897041&Search=true&where=&Name=7731&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1939801) was for product purchased from Bill, paid for in April 2006 and received 9 weeks later. I never disclosed who the seller was in that thread, as I genuinely wanted to believe him.

Going back through old PMs the MO was the same; receiving messages from others assuring me in Bill's absence, that I will get my item. In the end, supposedly his buddy found the package held up in UK customs for 2 months and got it pushed through.

-Corey

PaulyMT
03-10-2007, 10:56 AM
is there no one in the Uk, who can phone him???? and asked what the problem is???

Delboy75
03-10-2007, 02:07 PM
Well im pretty sure that Bill is away working, The last i knew ALL parcels had been posted including overseas ones, that was a few weeks ago.

Of course i cannot not guarentee this, it's just what i was told.
Is it possible that some are held up at customs? seeing as a few overseas buyers now have their items i'd say that the others should be 'in transit' or being held at customs?

Customs have seriously clamped down lately and i know that Bills parcels were being targeted once before, maybe due to the volumes he was posting?.

Is there no way of getting in touch with uk customs to see if they are holding a parcel for you? or maybe they are held at customs your end?
just an idea, may be worth a go.

Its sad that so many people are still waiting.

Leif_G
03-10-2007, 04:30 PM
Well im pretty sure that Bill is away working...



Well I've read a message sent by Bill's wife saying he would be home Feb 20th. So, if he's now away working, it's not without making trips home... all the while not bothering to contact people who are waiting.

Even if he were away someplace working... he's not being held hostage by Dayak headhunters in Borneo. That's simply NOT a valid excuse.

Leif

Rasmus_Hult
03-10-2007, 06:42 PM
I am so sick of seeing this thread bumped once again... Move it into another section!
You have decided to make it a justicial matter, hence it is not relevant until the verdict is served!

MartijnEmmelot
03-10-2007, 07:31 PM
I am so sick of seeing this thread bumped once again...



Than don't read it... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Move it into another section!



IMO it is just fine overhere where everybody can read the (mostly useless) updates



You have decided to make it a justicial matter,



...not everyone has http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

~Martijn

Leif_G
03-10-2007, 08:34 PM
You have decided to make it a justicial matter, hence it is not relevant until the verdict is served!



Since when does taking someone's money and not giving them anything in return suddenly need a judicial ruling to become relevant or wrong?

Oh, but I forgot... Bill is special in some way I have yet to comprehend.

Leif

Rasmus_Hult
03-11-2007, 05:46 PM
Sorry guys don't get me wrong, I really feel for you! I would be fuming as well but having this thread bumped every other day on top of the vintage section was just causing such a negative vibe I really felt it was doing more damage then good. Now that it is in the right section it will do more good. I had no intention of stepping on your toes but this thread was really a sore toe on another wise great vintage section!

/Rasmus

PaulyMT
03-12-2007, 07:45 AM
this thread should be on the first page as long as were are waiting for the items.

useless or not

Creeping_Fear
03-12-2007, 04:49 PM
I agree...any bad sellers in this Vintage area need to displayed for ALL to see and often to keep others from getting burned.

100% keep this bumped!

MrPickles
03-12-2007, 08:50 PM
Sorry to see this sort of thing here in the Vintage section. Figured something like this happened very rarely within a more "mature" collecting circle.

Youthberg
03-14-2007, 01:36 PM
Iīve asked for a full refund, and I hope to get it. Been waiting since april last year, and just completely lost interest in getting the stuff I once bought.

Iīm writing this here because I havenīt got any replies to my last 4-5 e-mails, so Bill if You read this, please contact me.

//Fredrik




...

After the post above, and a lot of e-mails telling Billy that I want a full refund instead of the stuff i bought, guess what showed up in the mail today? (11 months after the transaction) http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif

What should/can I do now? I really dont want this stuff (donīt get me wrong, the baggies and the vehicle Iīve got are awesome, but I do not collect Snowtroopers any longer), as he (Billy) should be very aware of, and I donīt think that the stuff Iīve once bought is that easy to sell... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Jediman
03-14-2007, 01:50 PM
Fredrik Great to hear you finally got something! At least you got what you paid for but very delayed. The Snowtroopers should not be to hard to trade/sell.

Pellaeon
03-14-2007, 02:51 PM
Not hard at all http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif I am so happy that you got something in return...I am still waiting http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif for probably the same item as you have received. I am giving it until next week then I will have no choice but to report this whole incident to the authorities.

Youthberg
03-14-2007, 04:36 PM
Yes, even if it maybe didnīt sound like that in my last post, Iīm really glad that the stuff finally arrived. Thereīs still those of You who havenīt got what Youīve payed for yet, so I should consider myself lucky.

I just wish that this package had arrived 10 months ago... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Hereīs some pictures of the newly arrived Snowtroopers:

Pics of the Billy-stuff (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=5&Number=2452442&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1#Post2452442)

PaulyMT
03-15-2007, 05:08 AM
My package is there http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The postman was on the door just 5 minutes ago and in it where the figures from billyboy http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I am very glad I got them

*edit: I saw on the stamp that it was stamped march 12 2007

garindan
03-15-2007, 05:23 AM
I wonder how long it will take Billy to show up here now that it seems most goods have been delivered. Is anyone still waiting for their parcel? What a fiasco.

Andrew

Leif_G
03-15-2007, 05:34 AM
I wonder how long it will take Billy to show up here now that it seems most goods have been delivered. Is anyone still waiting for their parcel? What a fiasco.

Andrew



Undoubtedly he'll show up once the lions are well fed. Glad to see people finally getting something.

Leif

tread9
03-15-2007, 05:42 AM
I think you guys who are now getting your stuff can thank 'daxvader' for this. Good show man!

sotoam
03-15-2007, 05:55 AM
I wonder how long it will take Billy to show up here now that it seems most goods have been delivered. Is anyone still waiting for their parcel? What a fiasco.

Andrew



Anyone in the US get their stuff yet? I'm still waiting.

MartijnEmmelot
03-15-2007, 06:13 AM
...got mine today, recorded delivery from the UK, stamps cancelled at march 12 2007.
Glad to finally close an 18 (eighteen) months running transaction http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

The figure is truly awesome but not worth the 1.5 year frustration http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


Hope the rest of you will get what's yours too.

~Martijn!

Mattias_Rendahl
03-15-2007, 07:52 AM
I think you guys who are now getting your stuff can thank 'daxvader' for this. Good show man!




I really doubt this is thanks to this "daxvader". Many collectors have tried
to solve this matter for months with a much more humble attitude. I do absolutely
not defend Bills incomprehensible arrogance, I just do believe it's due to
other influences in combination with a personal stability.


And today I finally recieved my own parcel, I really really hope the rest of you will
recieve your items asap aswell.

Mattias

Lafos
03-15-2007, 08:11 AM
Finally two good news about this long journey.

Pellaeon
03-15-2007, 09:10 AM
Nothing yet here in the states. I will certainly let folks now if/when a package arrives from the UK. Bill did send me an email today and coupled with folks receiving stuff I am relieved http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

daxvader
03-15-2007, 03:46 PM
I really doubt this is thanks to this "daxvader". Many collectors have tried
to solve this matter for months with a much more humble attitude.


I think a humble approach might be what you would show someone that has communicated well but has had a delay of a few weeks as a result of unforeseen circumstances. When this evolves into a complete contempt for fellow collectors and a downright dishonest and criminal attitude, I believe that a much more direct and blunt approach is required. Why do you keep on making excuses?

What does 'I just do believe it's due to
other influences in combination with a personal stability' actually mean?