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Jeff_R
05-18-2006, 06:06 PM
Hi everyone,

I recently bought a collection of loose vintage figures with some weapons on e-bay. The seller had these since he was young and was just "getting rid of them" In the mix of weapons I found a Luke Jedi blue saber. I was pretty excited becasue I don't have one of these yet. I compared it to my green one and it looks pretty much identical except for the color of course. I also checked armory of the jawas and noticed the only repro on file is the painted over one. The one I have is definitely not painted over. So, my question is: Are there any other known repros for the blue saber. I want to be sure mine is the real deal. Seems that if the seller has had all these since he was young, he wouldn't even be interested in obtaining a repro, but you never know. Any advice or info would be appreciated.

ThorOakenfelder
05-18-2006, 07:52 PM
I'm pretty interested in this as well. I got a Jedi Luke that had a blue saber, I was pretty sure it was original, since the cape was damaged and the figure was a bit beat up, but then I noticed that the pistol was grey, not brown.

Luke
05-18-2006, 08:50 PM
Check the base of the handle. The end that the blade comes out of should be flat, not rounded. This will tell you if it is real, painted or not.
Todd

Jeff_R
05-18-2006, 11:40 PM
Thanks Todd, Mine is indeed rounded and looks just like the original in the armory. I guess I have to just assume it is real. It is just so frustrating with all the repros. I despise them!! I recently completed my loose vintage set and over the last few months, as I went back and studied some of the earlier ones I acquired (when I was a lot less informed) I realized I own several repros. I have since replaced them. Anyway, I will always try and fight the good fight against repros!

Jedi_Bri
05-19-2006, 01:01 AM
To my knowledge, it should be flat. I think he is talking about the place where the handle meets the saber, where the bigger parts sticks out. The lower end touching the handle is rounded a bit but the upper end of that notch is flat where it touches the saber. I know this is confusing, I wish i had a pick. Better yet, if you snap a pick, We could help better as well.

TrooperJake
05-19-2006, 01:32 AM
There's a great comparison picture of the blade hilts in the photo archives here (http://www.rebelscum.com/vintage/vintlukejedisaberrepro.jpg).



...but then I noticed that the pistol was grey, not brown.



What's wrong with that?

Matt_T
05-19-2006, 07:35 AM
There's a great comparison picture of the blade hilts in the photo archives here (http://www.rebelscum.com/vintage/vintlukejedisaberrepro.jpg).



Another indicator to look at is the finish on the plastic. Most of the repros I've seen are very shiny compared with their counterparts. It will be easy to notice the difference even with comparing the green and blue saber together. Also, the features on the saber should be much sharper on the original (as you can see in the above linked picture). Now, I don't know if this hold true of *all* repros, but definitely - if its overly shiny and the details aren't shape - it's not original.






...but then I noticed that the pistol was grey, not brown.


What's wrong with that?



There are a multitude of grey repro weapons out there, including Luke Jedi's weapon. The original is grey-tan, the repros are dead-grey, shiny, and not detailed. There are also some from this maker that are totally off color-wise, like a blue or black CCP com.

spoons
05-19-2006, 08:00 AM
There's a great comparison picture of the blade hilts in the photo archives here (http://www.rebelscum.com/vintage/vintlukejedisaberrepro.jpg).



Another indicator to look at is the finish on the plastic. Most of the repros I've seen are very shiny compared with their counterparts. It will be easy to notice the difference even with comparing the green and blue saber together. Also, the features on the saber should be much sharper on the original (as you can see in the above linked picture). Now, I don't know if this hold true of *all* repros, but definitely - if its overly shiny and the details aren't shape - it's not original.






...but then I noticed that the pistol was grey, not brown.


What's wrong with that?



There are a multitude of grey repro weapons out there, including Luke Jedi's weapon. The original is grey-tan, the repros are dead-grey, shiny, and not detailed. There are also some from this maker that are totally off color-wise, like a blue or black CCP com.



Yes, but Luke's blaster can be two distinct shades of grey-tan; one very grey and one very tan. The sure fire way (as the armory says) is the absence/presence of a circle on the handle. If it's there it is not a repro.

Andy

RyanB
05-19-2006, 10:30 AM
Yes, but Luke's blaster can be two distinct shades of grey-tan; one very grey and one very tan. The sure fire way (as the armory says) is the absence/presence of a circle on the handle. If it's there it is not a repro.

Andy



This statement is NOT true. I have several Luke Jedi Pistols with circles on the handle. they are all repros. Look at repro No. 4 Here (http://www.loresdelsith.net/rincon/armeria/c_lukepis_i.htm)

This black version is also available in grey. Look at the original in the link above, you need to have 2 dimples on each side of the gun. One on the handle, one on the barrel

Ryan

Ian_C
05-19-2006, 11:23 AM
You can also check the rigidity of the plastic in the weapons. Authentic weapons will have minimal give if you try to bend them. The repros feel so brittle there is absolutely no give at all.

Then again, there's the traditional 'drop test'.

Ian

spoons
05-19-2006, 12:41 PM
Yes, but Luke's blaster can be two distinct shades of grey-tan; one very grey and one very tan. The sure fire way (as the armory says) is the absence/presence of a circle on the handle. If it's there it is not a repro.

Andy



This statement is NOT true. I have several Luke Jedi Pistols with circles on the handle. they are all repros. Look at repro No. 4 Here (http://www.loresdelsith.net/rincon/armeria/c_lukepis_i.htm)

This black version is also available in grey. Look at the original in the link above, you need to have 2 dimples on each side of the gun. One on the handle, one on the barrel

Ryan



I stand corrected http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/blush.gif, but they do come in different shades of grey/tan

http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/vintage/vintlukejediblasters.jpg

Andy

Jeff_R
05-19-2006, 03:48 PM
Thanks! Great comparison picture. When looking at these two different hilts, it is very obvious. Mine is the one on the left. It is also NOT shiny, NOT painted and the three dots are more defined, just like in the armory. I think I am in the clear. To expand on the luke blasters, it is true that both dots must be present on the blaster. If not, it has to be a repro.

misterbroke
05-19-2006, 04:44 PM
You can also check the rigidity of the plastic in the weapons. Authentic weapons will have minimal give if you try to bend them. The repros feel so brittle there is absolutely no give at all.

Then again, there's the traditional 'drop test'.


Drop test?

Jeff_R
05-19-2006, 06:06 PM
Drop Test: The original weapons were made of a softer plastic, whereas the repros are for the most part denser, harder and more rigid. If you drop a repro weapon on a hard flat surface it will have a sharper ping like sound. When a vintage weapon is dropped, it will have a softer sound. For practice, you should take one of each and compare the sound.

Matt_T
05-19-2006, 06:54 PM
To expand on the luke blasters, it is true that both dots must be present on the blaster. If not, it has to be a repro.



This may hold true at the moment, however, repros may come out in the future w/ both dots. It's a good practice to know *several* ways to identify a repro/legit weapon. I keep a stock of known repros and known legit weapons around just for comparison. If I have one I can't identify, then the resources on the net are available as well as very knowledgable people here.

Luke
05-19-2006, 10:25 PM
Try the float test too. Most repros will sink, where as originals will float.
Todd

Yzerman
06-06-2006, 02:00 PM
Try the float test too. Most repros will sink, where as originals will float.
Todd


The float test is an excellent way to discover repros. It's always the first test I do when I wanna check a weapon. Most originals will float but there are a few exceptions and almost every repro will sink.

D. Martin
06-06-2006, 02:16 PM
http://www.rebelscum.com/vintage/vintlukejedisaberrepro.jpg

Check out the RSVPA (http://www.rebelscum.com/VINtLukejedi.asp)

New_Bornalex
06-06-2006, 09:02 PM
Try the float test too. Most repros will sink, where as originals will float.
Todd


The float test is an excellent way to discover repros. It's always the first test I do when I wanna check a weapon.



I thought that was for testing witches?

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Alex