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DarthSaber
01-16-2006, 05:12 PM
Probably will go quick. Good luck!

DarthSaber
01-16-2006, 06:17 PM
It's already gone. There was a limit of 2 per person, so I hope a couple of collector's here got 'em. It looks like it will be very nice piece-with the lights and all.

Tig_Fromm
01-16-2006, 07:07 PM
It's just too bad that the helmet is so inaccurate.

oldschool_Jawa
01-16-2006, 07:26 PM
I had to cancel mine that I had on order with Sideshow.

Tig_Fromm
01-16-2006, 07:37 PM
I had to cancel mine that I had on order with Sideshow.




Because it looked so bad?

oldschool_Jawa
01-16-2006, 10:50 PM
No not really, I think it looks pretty good. I'm still unemployed right now and money is tight so I had to go ahead and cancel all my SS orders. I had all these exclusives on preorder: vader, grievous, leia, obi-wan.

Jedi_Dogs
01-16-2006, 10:57 PM
oldschool_Jawa, you should have offered us the chance to purchase them from you before you canceled your orders http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

oldschool_Jawa
01-16-2006, 11:27 PM
Oh man, I really didn't even think about that. Sorry guys to anyone out there who would have bought them from me.

theropod
01-17-2006, 01:22 AM
I would have been happy to take your Grievous order.
Oh well.
-theropod

Mike_S
01-17-2006, 02:42 AM
It's just too bad that the helmet is so inaccurate.



Could you elaborate on that please?

Tig_Fromm
01-17-2006, 04:48 AM
It's just too bad that the helmet is so inaccurate.



Could you elaborate on that please?




Okay.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/7117_press03-001.jpg

Chris Wyman
01-17-2006, 06:03 AM
oldschool_Jawa, you should have offered us the chance to purchase them from you before you canceled your orders http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



It's to bad you guys didn't see the post I left about doing just that. I had my Wait List Reservation turned into a real order for the Exclusive version, so I had to cancel my other order. I posted about it, but no one said anything. Sorry guys.

Jesseawilson
01-17-2006, 08:32 AM
It's just too bad that the helmet is so inaccurate.



Could you elaborate on that please?




Okay.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/7117_press03-001.jpg





There is a difference between a Prop Replica (which this is not) and a hand sculpted statue/figure (which this is). I think Oluf did a dam fine job on this piece and it will certainly be part of my collection.


Jesse

Brent72
01-17-2006, 06:06 PM
Well, I just cancelled my order with Sideshow today. The never-ending wait for the statue to be released combined with the inaccuracies of the helmet/mask made me totally lose interest in this piece. Maybe one of these days I'll pick one up on eBay at a good price, but for now SS has lost my business on this statue. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Tig_Fromm
01-17-2006, 08:02 PM
There is a difference between a Prop Replica (which this is not) and a hand sculpted statue/figure (which this is). I think Oluf did a dam fine job on this piece and it will certainly be part of my collection.





Wrong. Likeness is the most important part of any statue.

sithcommeth
01-17-2006, 09:33 PM
i will be keeping my order also, i just like this and think sideshow did a nice job

DarthSaber
01-17-2006, 10:03 PM
I still think it is quite a nice piece. The Attakus Vaders 1+2 were selling at astronomical amounts on ebay. As you can see, $299- $350 is not a bad price for a statue of this calibur. Yes, it hits the wallet, but so does every high end collectible. And it's the first vader statue with real clothing and lights! By the way, the nose is painted silver in the final production run. It may not be an exact replica, but it is very close. And anything from sideshow is very HOT right now, so it's also a good investment.

Jesseawilson
01-18-2006, 01:19 AM
There is a difference between a Prop Replica (which this is not) and a hand sculpted statue/figure (which this is). I think Oluf did a dam fine job on this piece and it will certainly be part of my collection.





Wrong. Likeness is the most important part of any statue.




WOW your so right I thought this was Darth Vader but I can see it looks absolutly nothing like him.

I don't remember stating that the likeness was the difference between the two. Allow me to clarify: The difference between the two is that one is (or at least is intended to be) exactly what you saw on screen while the other is one artists interpretation realized by hand into clay.

The "likeness" is 99% there, come on. No offense but you guys measuring micron meters are getting a little bit redicules don't you think. I mean this thing was sculpted by hand for pete's sake?


Jesse

Tig_Fromm
01-18-2006, 01:24 AM
The "likeness" is 99% there, come on. No offense but you guys measuring micron meters are getting a little bit redicules don't you think?





That's "ridiculous". http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Brent72
01-18-2006, 02:36 PM
The "likeness" is 99% there, come on. No offense but you guys measuring micron meters are getting a little bit redicules don't you think. I mean this thing was sculpted by hand for pete's sake?


Jesse



I don't think it's 99%, more like 85-90% at best. For $350 plus shipping it should be 100% IMHO. That's why I cancelled my order. I just can't justify paying that much money for a statue with such inaccuracies.

Chief_Bast
01-18-2006, 04:02 PM
Well, for those of you that have retained your order and were in the second wave of shipping, there appears to be some good news from SS. According to the email I received today, it looks as thought the 1st batch will still arrive on Feb 1st and the 2nd batch will now be in the States much sooner - on the 8th. (vs. around the 20-22nd of the month as previously mentioned)

If things go according to schedule, it will be a nice surprise to have a company sending a product out sooner than expect. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

FartVader
01-18-2006, 04:06 PM
Yeah...that helmet is not accurate. Please compare the helmet with my avatar pic from a different angle and ANYONE can CLEARLY see that the Sideshow helmet is WAY off. They even forgot the gases around the head. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

$350 for such a highly innacurate piece is RIDICULOUS. Seriously though...I think if anyone says something is innacurate, they should elaborate or at least show comparison pics. I think everyone by now knows what the SS Vader looks like. Give us comparison pics or a good explanation.

Chief_Bast
01-18-2006, 04:41 PM
Yeah...that helmet is not accurate. Please compare the helmet with my avatar pic from a different angle and ANYONE can CLEARLY see that the Sideshow helmet is WAY off. They even forgot the gases around the head. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

$350 for such a highly innacurate piece is RIDICULOUS. Seriously though...I think if anyone says something is innacurate, they should elaborate or at least show comparison pics. I think everyone by now knows what the SS Vader looks like. Give us comparison pics or a good explanation.



I think you have some valid points, but in all fairness, you cannot accurately compare Sideshow's product to your ESB Vader avatar. The real comparision needs be made with a SS pic and a shot of the ANH helmet, which someone on here, RPF or Statueforum has recently done. (because of the differences between the movie helmets)

And you're right - there are differences, but on the whole, I'm (personally) satisfied with the end result and hope that what I receive will exceed my expectations. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif (although the gas floating around the head would have been a much better exclusive than the ol' mouse droid any day http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif)

Jesseawilson
01-18-2006, 08:44 PM
When these ship you'll be able to get them on Ebay for close to $200. For that price I think it is a steal!!!


Jesse

tomandshell
01-18-2006, 09:26 PM
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ANYONE can CLEARLY see that the Sideshow helmet is WAY off.

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I can't, and I'm a part of "anyone." How is it WAY off? Everybody keeps arguing about this helmet, and it still looks like Darth Vader to me. I can understand people who have some issues, even though I can't see the problems with my eyes.

What confuses me is the people who are so convinced that it looks absolutely nothing like Vader, to the point of being beyond recognition . I have read many posts saying as much. Huh? Some may think it's off, but I don't see how someone could say with honesty that ANYONE who looks at it will CLEARLY see that it is not just off, but WAY off. I think the poor Vader statue has become the victim of excessively exaggerated critique. I'm looking forward to getting mine.



I just hope that all of these people cancelling are ahead of me in the list, so I can get bumped up to the first wave.

Tig_Fromm
01-18-2006, 10:49 PM
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/7117_press04-001.jpg

http://www.darthblade.com/images/Helmet/anhpic4.jpg


Eyes are too large, cheeks are too long, the nose piece between the eyes is too thin, face is too long... Need more?




They were closest in June:

http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/111105vader_chart.jpg

massoh2
01-18-2006, 11:07 PM
Lol that should shut them up.

Brent72
01-18-2006, 11:45 PM
King Kong is absolutely right. If they had kept the sculpt that was pictured in June I probably wouldn't have cancelled my order as it looks much better than the current photos.

Gruson
01-19-2006, 11:34 AM
Ok,

Realize that Sideshow's pics are the WORST. They need to hire a better photographer.

I do agree with Kong though. Sorry Jess.

The helmet is not accurate. BUT, I bet it will look better in person. We should know soon!

This pic from the video of Vader looks better than the pics they have online.

It should be more accurate overall though...they had a LONG time to get it right.

Again, we should know in 2 weeks!!!! http://www.crazywayco.com/vad_vid.JPG

Jesseawilson
01-19-2006, 12:17 PM
I have never once said that the helmet looks exactly as it does in the movies. What I am saying is that it looks like Darth Vader, alot like Darth Vader. But you guys that think it looks like crap will never be convinced otherwise and you certainly arn't going to convince me it looks like crap so why bother trying. I guess I just don't care that it's not a 100% exact duplicate of the movie props is what I am saying.


Jesse

Chief_Bast
01-19-2006, 12:29 PM
I have never once said that the helmet looks exactly as it does in the movies. What I am saying is that it looks like Darth Vader, alot like Darth Vader. But you guys that think it looks like crap will never be convinced otherwise and you certainly arn't going to convince me it looks like crap so why bother trying. I guess I just don't care that it's not a 100% exact duplicate of the movie props is what I am saying.


Jesse



I couldn't have said it better myself....

tomandshell
01-19-2006, 12:33 PM
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Lol that should shut them up.


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Nope, sorry. I will, however, happily shut up when the criticisms I read actually become visible to me. This is like the Emperor's New Clothes--everybody is complaining about things that I just honestly don't see with my own eyes (which I trust more than somebody elses).

Truthfully, I just don't see differences in the four things mentioned. The eyes look the same to me, the cheeks just look exactly the same, and I think that the piece between the eyes only looks thin because of the light glare. If you look at where the eye actually stops to the right you will see that it is thicker than it seems because of the picture. This is like somebody telling me that Diet Dr. Pepper tastes more like regular Dr. Pepper. I'm glad you think so, but there's no fooling my personal taste.

Actually, the one difference I actually do notice is the texture of the plating over the mouthpiece. The movie shot seems to be stripes, where the SS version has a lot of grating/mesh in it. But that wasn't even mentioned as one of the differences. It also seems that the edges of the helmet are too pointy. So that's two things I see, neither of which would keep me from buying this.

I am certainly not out to convince anybody, but it does help me to finally have some specifics given to me so that I can see that the complaints are invisible to me personally. None of these things will keep me from enjoying my Vader, so please feel free to cancel your order so that mine might get bumped ahead into the first batch of shipping!

Gruson
01-19-2006, 12:33 PM
These are supposed to be "MUSEUM QUALITY" so it SHOULD be 99% accurate IMO.

All of the Vader experts at RPF agree...it's not screen accurate.

demorathis
01-19-2006, 12:36 PM
It looks like vader more than it looks like crap.
For one, crap is usually more brown -- or green if it's from a baby or vegetarian.

All in all it has all the details. But didn't put the details in the correct proportions. I agree...

1. the eyes are too flat and stick out too much
2. the mouth is ginormous
3. the cheeks are huge and flat (70's style)
4. the helmet is not wide enough p top
5. the space between the eyes is too narrow
The armour is great, the costume looks awesome -- it's the helmet that kind throws if all off.

It is decent, but it is not something that makes me really excited -- that's usually what you want -- something that will make you want to throw money at them -- I kinda wish that they had different artists work on it and then choose from that small pool -- I like hartvigson's work, but I must say that the vader is pretty off-- wrong reference material maybe? don't know for sure...

looked as if a riddell helmet may have gotten mixed up in the design...but unless the sculptor is hard-core vader -- if the sculptor can be fooled by inaccurate reference, like some non-hard-core vader aficionados, then it's really hard for that company to be a good likeness judge.

I'll buy it still -- but I wouldn't kill myself if I missed out completely -- the medicom 12" was a must for me cause the helmet looks more accurate than the premium ss. -- I mean for what it is anyway.

**The most obvious problem is that vader appears MOON-FACED.

It's like the helmet's under way too much air pressure and is http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif gonna burst...
run away! run away! j/k http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

heck, I like the gg vader statue, but the new bust has better proportions --THE NECK IS DEEPER UNDER THE SHOULDER ARMOUR-- not outstretched, it looks better.

demorathis
01-19-2006, 12:44 PM
here's a link to a comparison of the ss vader compared with a proportion change that's more accurate -- unfortunately u have to be a myspace member to see it -- sorry if any of you are not -- it's free -- but that's the only place I've posted it -- if anyone knows how, feel free to copy and paste both and place it on the boards...I apologize in advance for the crude program...

http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=8629915&friendName=BURBLE&Mytoken=5145C601-DE0E-B029-9D9A13BB574B356D18522688&setonlinenow=1&Mytoken=FCBF5807-CE15-5779-83A5123F3657742830982332



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Lol that should shut them up.




Nope, sorry. I will, however, happily shut up when the criticisms I read actually become visible to me. This is like the Emperor's New Clothes--everybody is complaining about things that I just honestly don't see with my own eyes (which I trust more than somebody elses).

Truthfully, I just don't see differences in the four things mentioned. The eyes look the same to me, the cheeks just look exactly the same, and I think that the piece between the eyes only looks thin because of the light glare. If you look at where the eye actually stops to the right you will see that it is thicker than it seems because of the picture. This is like somebody telling me that Diet Dr. Pepper tastes more like regular Dr. Pepper. I'm glad you think so, but there's no fooling my personal taste.

Actually, the one difference I actually do notice is the texture of the plating over the mouthpiece. The movie shot seems to be stripes, where the SS version has a lot of grating/mesh in it. But that wasn't even mentioned as one of the differences. It also seems that the edges of the helmet are too pointy. So that's two things I see, neither of which would keep me from buying this.

I am certainly not out to convince anybody, but it does help me to finally have some specifics given to me so that I can see that the complaints are invisible to me personally. None of these things will keep me from enjoying my Vader, so please feel free to cancel your order so that mine might get bumped ahead into the first batch of shipping!

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tomandshell
01-19-2006, 12:53 PM
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All of the Vader experts at RPF agree...it's not screen accurate.

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If all of the Vader experts at RPF agreed that my wife was ugly that wouldn't impact my opinion on the matter.

demorathis
01-19-2006, 12:58 PM
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All of the Vader experts at RPF agree...it's not screen accurate.



If all of the Vader experts at RPF agreed that my wife was ugly that wouldn't impact my opinion on the matter.

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What if they were "ugly" experts? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

just kidding...it was wide open plus that joke goes both ways http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Truth be told -- MOST people can't tell a screen accurate vader -- including the sculptors -- they are artists, not necessarily vader aficionados -- so just because somebody can't tell the difference, doesn't mean that the experts are wrong. These are people who appreciate the Vader likeness for specific reasons and if that reason is not present, warped, too big, too flat, or not shiny enough, the experts are gonna know right away. Most vader experts appreciate almost all the aspects of a good vader, and can tell if something is not right -- like a dog show judge -- a dog is judged against the ideal ... and in this case the ideal, is what's been on the screen -- the prop itself, that most people don't even know there were more than one variation of, because the average movie goer isn't supposed to be able to tell the difference...

tomandshell
01-19-2006, 01:04 PM
LOL. I know. My point, though, is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I understand that there are some things that Vader experts object to with this statue, to the point that they cannot enjoy it. For me, personally, I don't see them and so I will enjoy mine. Nobody is being forced to purchase this. If you like it, buy it. You're the one that's going to be staring at it, and if you side with the critics then save yourself some money. If you don't see any problems and think you would like to have it, then spend away.

demorathis
01-19-2006, 01:18 PM
I agree with you whole-heartedly. I happen to be a vader expert too...but I still enjoy getting interpretations of him -- look at my avatar -- it is the VCD medicom Vader -- it's technically not the super-deforemd type as ALL the the details of vader can be found on him -- that's why i appreciate it -- now the proportions are way different, but it is a style...The helmet's two toned colors are even there (minus a gunmetal neck color) but I appreciate it anyway. It pays to know about these things only if they really matter to you, but it's also a selling point and it's invaluable in detecting when a lot of hard work is put into this sort of stuff... I will say off the bat, if that ss vader were screen accurate -- I would feel good about giving them even twice as much for it. The value of a good accurate sculpt is in the broadening of the appeal. Some may back out of it, but that's simply a matter of opinion...My opinion is that it is the first of it's kind of vader ... it's probably worth a buy even if they will have an improved version down the line -- then you'l have TWO to compare. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

jlcmsu
01-19-2006, 01:42 PM
Jesse and Tom have both made posts I totally agree with. I see Vader and I see the Vader I see on the screen. Now, I admit there are probably a couple of small things that are off. However, it's far far far from crap and to say it is well that's just silly. It's better than any Vader piece I've ever seen and I saw a lot at SDCC this summer including many of what the so called experts think are awesome.

Gruson
01-19-2006, 01:54 PM
Hey Josh! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I do not think it is crap..not at all.

It's just not perfect and that's how I want everything to be. I am very picky as you guys know and will point out any flaw I see.

I posted a huge thread about it when the first pics of Vader were released. It has come a LONG way, that's for sure.

I also agree that I would not mind paying twice as much for Vader, if he was 100% accurate.

In the end, I am pretty sure I will be happy with the piece.

jlcmsu
01-19-2006, 02:03 PM
Hey Josh! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I do not think it is crap..not at all.

It's just not perfect and that's how I want everything to be. I am very picky as you guys know and will point out any flaw I see.

I posted a huge thread about it when the first pics of Vader were released. It has come a LONG way, that's for sure.

I also agree that I would not mind paying twice as much for Vader, if he was 100% accurate.

In the end, I am pretty sure I will be happy with the piece.



Hey Gruson.

I know you haven't said it was crap that was meant for those that have. I don't think it's perfect either but it's as close as any Vader I've seen. The thing is there is no such thing as a perfect item. I don't care how much I or anyone defends anything it ain't happening.

FartVader
01-19-2006, 02:24 PM
I apologize for my previous post since some people read it the wrong way. I was being sarcastic in every sense of the word. Of course you can't compare my Vader avatar to the SS Vader pic. My point was that if you decide to say something is innacurate, you need to make a comparison, not just show one pic and leave it at that.

I honestly think that the SS Vader is awesome! I'm looking forward to receiving mine very soon. I was just making fun of some earlier posts where people claimed the item was way off.

HinekenSkywalker
01-19-2006, 02:40 PM
Well, whether it's 100% accurate or not, I'm looking forward to receiving mine. Vader is my collecting focus, everything from action figures, plush and superdeformed toys to the Medicom figure and the Gentle Giant statue, etc., and frankly, it's nice to have all of these different interpretations of him. If they were simply all "movie accurate" renditions of him, I would probably get kinda bored with collecting him. He doesn't have the most colorful costume, so the sometimes wildly different variations is what keeps it interesting for me.

FartVader
01-19-2006, 02:45 PM
Two things to note:

Making a comparison of a black and white photo with a colored one is not a good analysis since the lighting is completely different. We're talking about a man dressed all in black...lighting plays a MAJOR factor in the look of the proportions of the helmets as well as the details...especially when you look at B&W photos and colored ones. It's similar to seeing someone in the shadows and then seeing them in the light. I guarantee that the facial features you pick up in the shadows will seem different when seen in the light.

The angle of the photographs are also not the same. The David sculpture, for example, is proportionally innacurate if you were to look at it from eye level, but looks proportionally accurate when seen from the ground up. Seeing a pic of Vader with his chin up is not the same as seeing a pic of him just above eye level. The proportions all over the face and the overall look will change when you make these comparisons. I don't think we can truly get an accurate analysis of this item until we see these babies in person.

demorathis
01-19-2006, 02:59 PM
You're right -- and when you are familiar with vader, one that's not even close will pop out like a sore thumb.
The real test for me is if I can be fooled into thinking at the very least that it was either scanned or mechnically reproduced (whether by eyeballing or some other method)
True also that the slight variations add character -- and that's what makes it fun -- for example, the lava berry vader sith mini bust is FAR more accurate than any gentle giant bust up IRONIC, huh?--

Tig_Fromm
01-19-2006, 06:24 PM
When did I ever say it looked like crap? When did anyone, for that matter?

Brent72
01-19-2006, 07:55 PM
I certainly never said it was crap either. I just think it should be more accuate for the money. If you look at the SS helmet next to an Attakus helmet, there's no comparison. The Attakus is PERFECT while the SS has some glaring flaws. It's a shame because I really wanted this piece for my collection, but I just couldn't justify it for the price. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Chris Wyman
01-19-2006, 08:04 PM
Thought I'd join in on this since I have one on order from Sideshow.

I really don't want to get down on Sideshow just yet simply because we haven't seen the final product. It could be totally different than any of those pictures when we do get it in the mail. I'm guessing that the shipping date change from Jan. '06 to Jan./Feb. '06 has something to do with the fact that they are making more changes to it. I for one am very excited about getting this piece. I have all kinds of plans to make a big stand for it with a big glass case like the one at Celebration 3 last year. Now...finding a place to put something like that is another story entirely. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Mini_Rock_Banned
01-19-2006, 11:53 PM
I'm in the camp that is greatly looking forward to this piece. Looking at the pics of the various ANH helmets used for filming in comparison to the SS Vader, I have trouble seeing any differences. For those who are getting this piece, it will still no doubt be an awesome display piece and more than worthy of any high-end collection. For me, the SS 1/4 SW PF statue's will all be the centerpiece's of my collection. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

My.02 http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

JGordon24: I know what you mean about space. The acrylic case I'll be getting to display both Vader and Ben will be about 47"w X 14"d X 26"h and run about $232 not including shipping. I know, for me, it'll completely worth it. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

demorathis
01-20-2006, 11:50 AM
I certainly never said it was crap either. I just think it should be more accuate for the money. If you look at the SS helmet next to an Attakus helmet, there's no comparison. The Attakus is PERFECT while the SS has some glaring flaws. It's a shame because I really wanted this piece for my collection, but I just couldn't justify it for the price. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif



I don't mean to burst your bubble -- but as much as I love my attakus, it too, isn't perfect -- great from the front view, but from the side is a little short in the muzzle -- no qualms though, because the sculptor obviously sculpted this piece from an actual pub photo (which they made magnets of -- the same photo on the riddell helmet's box) so it looks really accurate from the front view.

The tendency of a photo is that it flattens planes, so the depth of the vader helmet is difficult to interpret, unless you see many views.

My way of judging if a sculpt is really ACCURATE, is if it can perhaps fool me into thinking that it was cast, scanned, mechanically reproduced, shrunk and/or "traced" from an original source of VADER HELMET.

Some pretty good interpretations of vader's helmet for me are the following - pretty accurate though not necessarily precise in the details:

attakus
gg bust / statue
the tin wind-up head
the applause 10" vinyl
kotobukiya first version
medicom 12" figure
marmit 1/6 figure prototype
VOTC vader


the list goes on...

most of the above vaders have the right proportions , at least from the front view -- some have problems from the side or back, like the medicom's profile is inaccurate, the attakus' -- the applause's details are simplified to allow for molding. the wind up from japan is from the same sculptor as the applause / taco bell cup topper-- it's pretty obvious when you study it.

The next best references for those who don't have the original props are the following:
Don Post deluxe earlier copies (accurate SHAPE minus colors and tusks)
Rubies lifesize (accurate shape, grills, colors, but not the eye bubbles -- too bubbly)
or a well done fan-made prop most of what I've seen are close enough...so there are lots of sources for reference, if you are interested in comparison. I'm still excited about it like anyone else =), bt if you've become curious as to the vader pickiness, it's actually an interesting read here ... www.starwarshelmets.com (http://www.starwarshelmets.com)
a great resource for vader helms that I like to check out once in a while, I admit, as much of a vader fanatic that I am, even this recource wears out my enthusiasm, it is SO INVOLVED... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif it is one of our members' sites here.

so most of the minor details I can't even tell, because I'm not familiar -- the only differences I know is BETWEEN the movies, and the stunt helmets -- (I don't know the variations of, lets say the ANH helms within the movie)
His is a face, and when you are familiar with it, you know when he's gotten a bit chubby, or lost some weight, or in the worst cases, is an impostor... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

RediNight
01-20-2006, 02:26 PM
I didn't want to start a new post, but what is up with Han? On the SS site it looks so different from before, is it just me? It doesn't look as good.

Gruson
01-20-2006, 02:47 PM
Red, I just posted a new Han thread.

The pics Sideshow has on their site now are REALLY bad.

EvilSith
01-23-2006, 05:00 AM
damn, this one looks bad. helmet looks too small and too wide. totally off. $350 for this big doll? no thanks.