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Blight
10-18-2005, 07:55 PM
Hasbro's plans include my most wanted to be made figure for the past 10 years...ROTJ style Death Star Gunner. He's my favorite OT army builder and I can't wait!

Darth_Anton
10-18-2005, 07:59 PM
Watch him be the POFT2 head with a Imperial officer body, like the ones I already made. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

CJHawk
10-18-2005, 08:03 PM
I'm with Anton. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a rereleased POTF2 or a POTJ/Saga officer sculpt with a new helmet. Frankly, the Saga officer sculpt with a good head would be pretty good! All new would be better.

Seize9
10-18-2005, 08:06 PM
Watch him be the POFT2 head with a Imperial officer body http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Ha, I was just going to say that!

But I'll try to be be optimistic instead... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Habs98
10-18-2005, 08:09 PM
Can anyone say........IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! Always need more Imperials and I'm glad we're seeeing a few in these new waves.

StoneWallAdam
10-18-2005, 08:18 PM
Everyone owns me a huge THANK YOU ADAM. I bought several POTF Death Star Gunners at a recent show. Same thing happen a couple months ago when I bought the POTF Leia in Boushh.

Who wants a new B-wing or Tie bomber? I been thinking about buying each!!!!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Adam

Jonny_Rotten
10-18-2005, 08:27 PM
Hey Adam buy some Darktroopers. We could always use more of them.

Inigo_Montoya
10-18-2005, 08:28 PM
Buy a Ree-Yees, vintage Klaatu (Palace), or proto Yarna. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

StoneWallAdam
10-18-2005, 08:37 PM
I did buys 3 AT-AT Drivers (PoTF2) at the same show. Let me go through I know there are several more!

This is no big deal, it is the story of my life! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Jonny_Rotten
10-18-2005, 08:40 PM
Ok buy a Death Star playset, and that's it.

Victor_Von_Doom
10-18-2005, 09:59 PM
I was just thinking we needed a new one the other day. I'm going to be mad if its a rehash or another kit bash. I know a POFT2 head and a POTJ officer body would be better than what we have now, but I still want a new one.

GNT
10-19-2005, 03:46 AM
Lets just see what Hasbro has instore for us. Can't wait to see pictures of this figure.

Blight
10-19-2005, 06:09 AM
I don't care if it's kitbashed. I want it! Preferrably tho, it'll have 12 POA and a new sculpt.

Tyranusspotting
10-19-2005, 06:20 AM
I wouldn't mind if they used the POTJ Imperial Offices as a basis. Though, Hasbro should rework the arms (so they can be swivelled down straight, and legs (maybe use the SAGA TIE Fighter Pilot's).

blaster_E11
10-19-2005, 06:51 AM
I wouldn't mind if they used the POTJ Imperial Offices as a basis. Though, Hasbro should rework the arms (so they can be swivelled down straight, and legs (maybe use the SAGA TIE Fighter Pilot's).



i agree, hasbro has made incredible figs with those, they can use the sculpt again i won't mind

CommanderRedd
10-19-2005, 09:28 AM
I always liked this guy as a kid, so I'll be buying.

E_CHU_TA
10-19-2005, 10:17 AM
i cant wait for this one, as ive said before i actually prefer the vintage one over the new one, so hopefully this will improve as much as the tie pilot did.

Darth_Anton
10-19-2005, 11:51 AM
What would be killer is a detachable chest plate.

Sev
10-20-2005, 09:44 PM
Decent articulation and a weapon and I'll take it.

DSIILuke
10-21-2005, 05:55 PM
Decent articulation and a weapon and I'll take it.




Same Feelings on that one, although I have a feeling its an imperal body and the 97 head...

Inigo_Montoya
10-22-2005, 01:37 AM
No. He'll be an all new resculpt.

Blight
10-22-2005, 09:07 AM
In Palpy voice:
Good, good! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Daigo_Bah
10-22-2005, 11:42 AM
Of course I'll take this one, but if there is any need for a deluxe, this is it. I don't see any reason to make a DS Gunner without the DS Gun (like the CC pilot without the cloud car!)

Blight
10-22-2005, 11:45 AM
He was just fine in his previous incarnation with a coin and a blaster. Just wishful thinking but a VOTC for this would be AWESOME!

Or better yet...Show the card pic of him punching a calculator as homage to UZAY.

Bayleef_Commando
10-23-2005, 06:14 AM
at last! a better one!!

DarthSith
10-23-2005, 10:51 PM
I hope this figure is good. I will get many if its good and a plethora if its great.

GNT
10-31-2005, 03:00 AM
http://www.collectinghq.com/tn/0006285.jpg (http://www.collectinghq.com/im/0006285.jpg)

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Judging by the image above, it sure looks like someone was missing a piece of his uniform on class picture day. How embarrassing. No word on whether this absolutely new figure will sport the incomplete look, or if it will be suited in it’s full costume.

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E_CHU_TA
10-31-2005, 03:05 AM
hope i can get this one to stand up.

Sev
01-05-2006, 05:18 PM
Since this is said to be a new sculpt, I really hope they do good on it. PLEASE HASBRO PLEASE!!!

Darth_Anton
01-06-2006, 10:36 AM
Since this is said to be a new sculpt, I really hope they do good on it. PLEASE HASBRO PLEASE!!!



I have faith. Worst case, we get something like a ROTS gunner, but I think we'll get something like an Imperial Officer with angle cut elbows.

doomdeath
01-06-2006, 11:50 AM
the one thing that bugged me about the gunner when he came out in 97...was that he had a chest plate...i don't remember seeing a gunner in anh or rotj with chest armor...although there is that cut scene from jedi with jerriood giving the orders to fire and the gunners are in that i think....anyone has a pic of them with armor? robert

Lady_Jaye
01-06-2006, 08:36 PM
This was one of the original POTJ figures I bought from the vintage line!! I loved that figure!!! Liked the 97 one, but didn't know better!! Now that we have some fantastic sculpts, can't wait to see what we get!!!

DarthBuff
01-06-2006, 09:21 PM
I think we will get a cool looking fig.

Blight
01-06-2006, 09:24 PM
The chest plate was on the ANH Gunners. The ROTJ Gunners had jumpsuits.

doomdeath
01-06-2006, 11:26 PM
The chest plate was on the ANH Gunners. The ROTJ Gunners had jumpsuits.



thanks for the info...another thing to look for when i re watch ANH....robert

DSIILuke
01-07-2006, 08:50 AM
I love this entire wave, although I think a wasted *all new* sculpt went to 3-PO. The ROTS figure w/ knee joints would have been the easiest route, leaving the EC Luke to be all new.


As for the Gunner, wasn't expecting this one, couldn't say I thought we needed a new one, but after seeing comparrison pictures of figures like:

Momaw Nadon (present) vs. Momaw Nadon (circa '97)

Im almost 110% sure we need a new one.

12501
01-07-2006, 08:54 AM
I love this entire wave, although I think a wasted *all new* sculpt went to 3-PO. The ROTS figure w/ knee joints would have been the easiest route, leaving the EC Luke to be all new.


As for the Gunner, wasn't expecting this one, couldn't say I thought we needed a new one, but after seeing comparrison pictures of figures like:

Momaw Nadon (present) vs. Momaw Nadon (circa '97)

Im almost 110% sure we need a new one.



We definitely need a new one.

I think Hasbro has proven that when it comes to troop figures, they do amazing things. I'd love to see what they could do for the Death Star Gunner.

DSIILuke
01-07-2006, 08:55 AM
I love this entire wave, although I think a wasted *all new* sculpt went to 3-PO. The ROTS figure w/ knee joints would have been the easiest route, leaving the EC Luke to be all new.


As for the Gunner, wasn't expecting this one, couldn't say I thought we needed a new one, but after seeing comparrison pictures of figures like:

Momaw Nadon (present) vs. Momaw Nadon (circa '97)

Im almost 110% sure we need a new one.



We definitely need a new one.

I think Hasbro has proven that when it comes to troop figures, they do amazing things. I'd love to see what they could do for the Death Star Gunner.




I give them credit on that, they are great troop sculpters. I think this figure will be great as well.

GNT
01-08-2006, 02:04 AM
Super ariculated trooper is all I ask for!

DSIILuke
01-09-2006, 06:44 PM
Super ariculated trooper is all I ask for!




ditto, or at least some damn fine sculpting

Rukh
01-10-2006, 12:07 AM
Can't wait to see pics of this figure either,is it my imagination or was this figure on a rumer list a couple of years ago,as being a deluxe figure with laser cannon.

Now if that ever happens and they make this figure SA..i think i would have to be buying muliples http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

GNT
02-10-2006, 10:32 PM
Just an update.... Looks like we'll get our first glimpse of Death Star Gunner at toy fair! For the moment we have just a tiny picture but you can make out a few small details like the helmet etc. Can't wait to see bigger and better shots in the coming days!

http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars//sw-toyfair012_small.jpg (http://hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/sw-toyfair012.jpg)

Jonny_Rotten
02-11-2006, 07:45 AM
Damn looks like he has no leg articulation. Just like Veers http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

PizzatheHut
02-11-2006, 08:03 AM
Damn looks like he has no leg articulation. Just like Veers http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif



How can you tell from this first photo that DS Gunner doesn't have leg articulation? I'm sure he does. At least at the hips.
And I don't know about your Veers, but my figure has articulation at the hips and boots.

Jonny_Rotten
02-11-2006, 09:40 AM
Just a guess of course. The pic's so small, still his stance looks like he has no knee articulation. I could care less about hip or boot articulation give me ball jointed knees.

Blight
02-11-2006, 10:04 AM
That had better not be a piece of chest armor unless it's removable. I want ROTJ accuracy

Lady_Jaye
02-11-2006, 11:23 AM
I think it does have chest armor, I copied it and used paint to strech it, and although the image is distorted, I looks like armor!! I can't tell if it's removeable though, but I don't think so since the armor is so form fitting!!

Lady_Jaye
02-11-2006, 11:24 AM
Oh and I can't tell if it has knee articulation or not!!

Galactic_Marine
02-11-2006, 12:37 PM
I think it does have chest armor, I copied it and used paint to strech it, and although the image is distorted, I looks like armor!! I can't tell if it's removeable though, but I don't think so since the armor is so form fitting!!



That would be cool, also if his helmet would come off!!!!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Darth_Anton
02-11-2006, 01:44 PM
Antenea on the helmet. Cool. Hope the armor is removable. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Rune_Haako
02-11-2006, 04:11 PM
Removable armor! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/showphoto.php?photo=16307&cat=4639

DSIILuke
02-11-2006, 04:12 PM
Removable armor! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/showphoto.php?photo=16307&cat=4639




Damn near SA as well!!

Lady_Jaye
02-11-2006, 04:16 PM
Awesome!!!! I love it!!

echo1441
02-11-2006, 04:24 PM
Great fig. But I still can't stand swivel elbows

Habs98
02-11-2006, 04:26 PM
I'll be grabbing a few of these guys, missed him the first time around.

Toyoda
02-11-2006, 04:27 PM
I don't know if it's just that picture, but that looks like a custom made from cheap sculpey. The helmet looks like play-doh and fingerpaint. I'm sure it is just the picture, and I'll buy this either way. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Lady_Jaye
02-11-2006, 04:29 PM
Well don't worry Toyoda, the real one will look better!! These are prototypes still!

echo1441
02-11-2006, 04:34 PM
I think he looks great. I will be getting at least 4

stylie_steve
02-11-2006, 06:36 PM
Love this figure. The fact that you can remove the armour to make either ANH Gunner (with Armour) or ROTJ Gunner (without Armour) is just brilliant.

I will buy a couple of these for sure.

Sev
02-11-2006, 07:47 PM
LOVE IT! I'll be getting this one for sure! Maybe 2!

Lady_Jaye
02-11-2006, 09:40 PM
Hmmmmm I may have to re-think my thoughts of army building!! I may give up my Clones and start with OT army building??? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif What to do, what to do??

Blight
02-11-2006, 09:57 PM
MINE MINE MINE! I love the design of the ROTJ Gunner and this seems to capture it and add removable armor. I'm "gunning" for 10 of these. My most desired figure and Hasbro sure did deliver. I can't wait. Really want one now... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DarthMaulSithLord
02-11-2006, 10:06 PM
Looks great, but he needs SA since he's an army builder. If he doesn't have this i'll pass. If he is SA i'll get 5 for sure. He's useless to me if he ain't SA.

(think diorama's)

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

CJHawk
02-12-2006, 12:28 AM
Fantastic. I was figuring Hasbro would reuse tie pilot or Imperial Officer parts on him, but he looks to be all new. Now if we could just get a cannon for him.

roguestormtrooper
02-12-2006, 03:20 AM
They keep getting better and better... I love the new DSG! The removable chest armor is great.

Would it be pushing it to ask for one with a removable helmet? Okay, I'll shut up now... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

ThorOakenfelder
02-12-2006, 04:20 AM
Looks great, but he needs SA since he's an army builder. If he doesn't have this i'll pass. If he is SA i'll get 5 for sure. He's useless to me if he ain't SA.

(think diorama's)

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif



The standing in place, pulling the lever down diorama, or the stanfding in place waiting for the Emperor Diorama?

Looks like ball shoulders, swivel elbows, swivel wrists, swivel hips, ball knees and ball ankles. Can't tell on waist or head from that pic.

Image (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/firefly2121/101_6307.jpg)

XBilly_JackX
02-12-2006, 04:29 AM
i hope this is a prototype. the removable chest armour is completely wrong. that is clonetrooper armour. the death star gunner chest peice is made from the same motocross chestpiece as the sandtrooper shoulder pauldron.

tk421_1_2
02-12-2006, 04:49 AM
Looks great, but he needs SA since he's an army builder. If he doesn't have this i'll pass. If he is SA i'll get 5 for sure. He's useless to me if he ain't SA.

(think diorama's)

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif



Yeah, the gunner has this scene in the movies where he does a flying 360 backflip back kick, left uppercut combination move to take out Chewie. Is that the diorama you trying to recreate?

GNT
02-12-2006, 04:58 AM
Without a doubt a great looking figure!

AmanaMatt
02-12-2006, 10:18 AM
This is awsome. I was prepared for (and ok with) a kitbash from the awsome Tie Pilot, but this is even better. My most anticipated Saga fig so far (along with R5-D4).

nagauthier
02-12-2006, 10:20 AM
Wow. This figure just moved into my #2 most anticipated figure of the year slot, second only to the Utapau Clone. I'll be grabbing about six of him!

12501
02-12-2006, 10:27 AM
Looks great, but he needs SA since he's an army builder. If he doesn't have this i'll pass. If he is SA i'll get 5 for sure. He's useless to me if he ain't SA.

(think diorama's)

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif



Yeah, the gunner has this scene in the movies where he does a flying 360 backflip back kick, left uppercut combination move to take out Chewie. Is that the diorama you trying to recreate?



One of the greatest scenes in the entire OT in my humble opinion. That flip was flawless, and Peter Mayhew's fall was also very well executed considering his size (they didn't use a stunt double during that scene, Mayhew took it on the chin like a real champ).

I build diorama's too but I don't need every figure to be super articulated. I guess the fact that the figure has more articulation than a normal figure and actually looks really good doesn't stand up to the need of having 467 points of articulation.

I wonder sometimes, do many collectors collect the figures/characters or do they collect articulation? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Blight
02-12-2006, 10:29 AM
The more articulation sometimes the more chance of faulty joints. Look at Marvel Legends figures for instance. Anways, the Gunner is a character who not only just falls short of SA at the elbows but he doesn't really need Super Articulation. The chest armor looks removable so I'm not too worried. Without a doubt my most anticipated figure of Saga. Cudos to Hasbro.

dsl89
02-12-2006, 10:32 AM
Great stuff...kind of a bland trooper though... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Daigo_Bah
02-12-2006, 10:57 AM
I'm getting 2 for ANH Death Star with armor, and a couple without for Emperor arrival scene. Very nicely done with the removable armor- Hasbro sure pleasantly surprises us sometimes!

http://www.rebelscum.com/toys/potfdeathstargunnerf.jpghttp://www.rebelscum.com/tf2006/tf06-HasbroTSC/IMG_0066.JPG

http://www.rebelscum.com/toys/potfdeathstargunnerr.jpghttp://www.rebelscum.com/tf2006/tf06-HasbroTSC/IMG_0133.JPG

Captain_Piet
02-12-2006, 01:39 PM
Put me down for four loose, one carded.

Toonimator
02-12-2006, 01:56 PM
Looks great, but he needs SA since he's an army builder. If he doesn't have this i'll pass. If he is SA i'll get 5 for sure. He's useless to me if he ain't SA.


He's just as articulated as the AT-AT Driver. Probably no more, certainly no less. I don't think the ankles are jointed at all, but for a non-clone/Stormie, this is excellent. Simply the fact that they're making more straight-arms with swivels is a HUGE step in the right direction. The addition of horizontal bicep-swivels would improve it more than anything other than ball-joint elbows, but it's still a wonderful figure and a good model for pilots, officers, baseline soldiers, and other sundry support characters.

...it WOULD be nice if the Rebel Sentry & any new DS Trooper had ball elbows, however http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Smudger9
02-12-2006, 02:04 PM
Put me down for four loose, one carded.



Good call. 5 for me too.
Love the removeable armour.... this figure has way exceeded my expectations and is up there with Veers, AT-AT driver and the VTSC biker scout... Hasbro has gone all out on the OT imperials. Now if we could just get an SA snowtrooper in 2007.

darth_sidious
02-12-2006, 02:05 PM
As someone who doesnt collect the POTF2 line, I'm glad to see this figure resculpted, since I dont have any. I hope Hasbro continues to resculpt other POTF2 figures like this one...

rileykill
02-12-2006, 03:16 PM
Someone put the poor guy's forearm back on!

Just kidding. Looks good & plenty of articulation for this figure.

Darth_Anton
02-12-2006, 03:26 PM
I had kit bashed the POTF2 DS Gunner (head) with the Saga officer (body.) I was very pleased with the result. However, this new sculpt exceeds all expectations. Now, maybe I'll have to do some reverse kit bashing. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

DarthSith
02-12-2006, 03:29 PM
Well, there Hasbro gets another $100 out of me on one figure. Maybe more depending.

Lady_Jaye
02-12-2006, 03:38 PM
Damn you planning on buying that many for your army?? That's dedication for ya!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Jonny_Rotten
02-12-2006, 05:43 PM
Ball jointed head? Because of the size and shape of the helmet I'm assuming it's not. Does anyone have a pic maybe from the bottom or from another angle that would suggest otherwise?

Lord_Atmo
03-11-2006, 11:57 AM
god this guy looks amazing. if the armor is removable, then that's a bonus i'm digging. swivel elbows can work. it depends on the positioning of the cut really. look at Tarkin, his came out great and work perfectly for his character. as long as they can bend forward enough without bending into the torso, i'll be fine with them.

that wrist, though, it looks like it's about to fall off. that had better be a prototype figure, cuz i want the final version to have tighter wrists

Krieger
03-11-2006, 12:06 PM
No Imperial logo on the shoulder? Hmmmm....

Hopefully a prototype oversight. Still a great looking figure. Wow, what a great year for OT Imperials.... Veers, AT-AT Driver, Jerjerrod, SA Biker Scout, and now this... hopefully the Death Star Trooper is equally awesome.

Darth_Anton
03-11-2006, 12:32 PM
No Imperial logo on the shoulder? Hmmmm....



Good eye. I wonder if they're taking note from the reference photo from ROTJ where the Gunners have those flaps over the shoulder, covering the logo. But then again, that flap isn't on the figure. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



hopefully the Death Star Trooper is equally awesome.




I truly hope so too, but my hopes aren't high on this one since he's a kitbash. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

rotj2000
03-11-2006, 12:33 PM
Death Star Gunner looks great. Hopefully will be able to find one on the pegs.

DarthSith
03-11-2006, 02:46 PM
Hopefully more than one. At least the ATAT driver was easy to find after a while. I think that is how this puppy will be. Not as many folks army build OTC as Clones.

DSIILuke
03-11-2006, 04:05 PM
Im lookin foward to this one! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

PizzatheHut
03-11-2006, 04:09 PM
god this guy looks amazing. if the armor is removable, then that's a bonus i'm digging. swivel elbows can work. it depends on the positioning of the cut really. look at Tarkin, his came out great and work perfectly for his character. as long as they can bend forward enough without bending into the torso, i'll be fine with them.



Tarkin? Tarkin doesn't have swivel elbows. Do you mean Veers?

Sev
03-11-2006, 04:12 PM
god this guy looks amazing. if the armor is removable, then that's a bonus i'm digging. swivel elbows can work. it depends on the positioning of the cut really. look at Tarkin, his came out great and work perfectly for his character. as long as they can bend forward enough without bending into the torso, i'll be fine with them.



Tarkin? Tarkin doesn't have swivel elbows. Do you mean Veers?


The ROTS Tarkin has swivel elbows.

DSIILuke
03-11-2006, 04:12 PM
god this guy looks amazing. if the armor is removable, then that's a bonus i'm digging. swivel elbows can work. it depends on the positioning of the cut really. look at Tarkin, his came out great and work perfectly for his character. as long as they can bend forward enough without bending into the torso, i'll be fine with them.



Tarkin? Tarkin doesn't have swivel elbows. Do you mean Veers?




Yes he does. ROTS ring a bell, maybe?

Lord_Atmo
03-11-2006, 04:12 PM
no, i mean tarkin. and yes, he does have swivel elbows. i'm looking at mine in front of me as i type this, and i deffinitely see swivel elbows

Sev
03-11-2006, 04:14 PM
Man, 3 people went to correct him in a matter of minutes. lol



I REALLY can't wait for this figure. I'll probably buy two.

Darkwraith
03-11-2006, 04:30 PM
It's got a better blaster, too. What was up with the original one? He looked like he was armed with a squirt gun. And it was too fragile for it's own good.

echo1441
03-11-2006, 04:48 PM
no, i mean tarkin. and yes, he does have swivel elbows. i'm looking at mine in front of me as i type this, and i deffinitely see swivel elbows



Well I'll back you up there. He definately has swivel elbows

PizzatheHut
03-31-2006, 01:15 AM
no, i mean tarkin. and yes, he does have swivel elbows. i'm looking at mine in front of me as i type this, and i deffinitely see swivel elbows



Oops, forgot about ROTS Tarkin. Was only thinking about POTF Tarkin. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Death Star Gunner is high on the want-list. That removable armor all-right!

http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2006/tf06-hasbroTSC/img_0094.jpg

Lord_Atmo
03-31-2006, 10:26 AM
yeah POTF Tarkin is pretty awful now.

and so is the POTF DS Gunner. i need this new version now!

005
03-31-2006, 11:25 AM
The saga line continues to impress me, essentially the only figures I have no interest in are straight rots rehashes. The gunner is fantastic. He wasn't on my list of older figs needing a redo, I actually think the DS trooper is in more need but now that I see this guy I can't help but drool. I love that hasbro is starting to make a few of these figures worth the $6.99 price tag by adding more features like removable armor. Really makes this guy standout. Put me down for a minimum of 2, maybe 4.

Lord_Atmo
03-31-2006, 11:58 AM
actully it's the articulation that warrants the $6.99 price. not removable armor

005
03-31-2006, 12:16 PM
Well ACTUALLY, nothing warrents the $6.99 price tag, but it is nice that they throw in SA and added feature like removable armor to make you feel like you aren't totally cheated out of $$$.

Neal
04-05-2006, 10:00 AM
http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/86930rev.jpg

Smudger9
04-05-2006, 10:07 AM
http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/86930rev.jpg



This figure is going to be awesome. Cant wait to see him carded. I just pray that the body is used for the Yavin DS trooper.

PizzatheHut
04-05-2006, 10:08 AM
Sign me up for three of these bad-boys!

Seize9
04-05-2006, 10:14 AM
Sweet looking figure indeed...

Toonimator
04-05-2006, 10:48 AM
This figure is going to be awesome. Cant wait to see him carded. I just pray that the body is used for the Yavin DS trooper.


While I'm hopin any future DS Troopers are at least as articulated (though ball-jointed elbows added wouldn't be bad!), wouldn't this body be inaccurate? DS Troopers don't wear jumpsuits, they wear black officers' outfits without rank insignia or cylinders, at least the ANH ones do.

So I'd prefer a new sculpt, SA, removable helmet, and TWO guns: Stormtrooper blaster and, because it's screen-accurate as well, the Rebel blaster.

I'd also like a new Imperial Officer retooled from a new DS Trooper, with no gloves (or short gloves, however the "Where are you taking this thing?" guy dressed), and rank cylinders on either side of the chest. Then we'd have an accurate black-suit Officer finally http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

can't wait to grab up a few of these Gunners!

blaster_E11
04-05-2006, 10:50 AM
i see removable armor !!

can't wait for this bad boy to be released next fall

XBilly_JackX
04-05-2006, 12:28 PM
I really hope they change the armor to the correct style... otherwise awesome figure.

Captain_Thire
04-05-2006, 12:47 PM
A must have!!!!! looks great

DarthBuff
04-05-2006, 12:52 PM
Looks real good.

Sev
04-05-2006, 04:12 PM
I'll be getting one or two! I like it!

stylie_steve
04-05-2006, 08:01 PM
Great figure, looks to much very much like the TIE Fighter Pilot and AT-AT Driver in terms of sculpt and articulation.

It would be awesome if they reuse that body for a new Death Star Trooper as it looks perfect.

Toonimator
04-05-2006, 10:46 PM
See above, the DS Trooper needs an officer's uniform sans all rank insignia, not a jumpsuit.

GNT
04-06-2006, 04:52 AM
*drools* A couple will do me in my imperial fleet army.

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sflamme
04-06-2006, 05:02 AM
I don't like this sort of arm articulation very much, but the figure does look great.

NS_Stormtrooper
04-06-2006, 06:32 AM
See above, the DS Trooper needs an officer's uniform sans all rank insignia, not a jumpsuit.



There were DS Troopers with jumpsuits in ROTJ. An easy way to spot them is to see if they have an Imperial patch on the shoulders. The DS Troopers with officer's tunic don't have the patch.

I would prefer an all-new DS Trooper with the tunic but if Hasbro going to kitbask one, this would be a great sculpt for a ROTJ DS Trooper.

Trooper31
04-06-2006, 06:40 AM
Awesome figure. Can't wait to pick up a few.

Warsaw_Wonder
04-06-2006, 06:53 AM
can't wait for this bad boy to be released next fall


Actually, I'd say this wave should be out in June or July!

Toonimator
04-06-2006, 11:51 AM
I would prefer an all-new DS Trooper with the tunic but if Hasbro going to kitbask one, this would be a great sculpt for a ROTJ DS Trooper.


I'll agree with you there... I think I'd heard of the ROTJ jumpsuit guys before, the patch thing reminded me; my earlier comments were regarding the rumor/fact that a DS Trooper is slated for the Yavin wave, so he'd need a tunic http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I've little doubt that customizers may make their own DSII Troopers outta this Gunner. I think I may as well! I never liked the POTF2 one with his funky pose; time for a headswap!

AmanaMatt
04-06-2006, 01:48 PM
Ok, where in the trilogy can you find a DS Gunner with a vest like that? That is the only thing I don't like - the rest is great.

Pellaeon
04-06-2006, 01:58 PM
I am extremley anxious to get a few of these bad boys! Looks like so far my army building is going to be VOTC Scouts, and Imperial Gunners!

Darth_Anton
04-06-2006, 08:57 PM
I love hearing that. Doesn't seem to be many of us OT enthusiests around. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Keaton33
04-06-2006, 09:01 PM
you mean prequel trilogy haters, LOL, just playin. anyways, this fig looks awsome. i was at my comic book shop a few weeks ago and i saw an old POTF gunner, and i was thinking about getting him, but someone snatched him up, grrr. anyways, this guy will do just fine, if not better! looks like he has great articulation, like the atat drivers maybe, and he just looks COOL! cant wait!!

rileykill
04-06-2006, 09:04 PM
You will be glad you waited - this one will be way better than the old Gunner.

DarthSith
04-06-2006, 09:17 PM
Looking forward to having many of these bad boys on the shelf.

DSIILuke
04-07-2006, 02:07 AM
Beautiful figure, looks amazing

Smudger9
05-08-2006, 10:38 AM
Best figure of the wave.... and another awesome cardback.
Carded pic (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC41DSG1.jpg&text=Death%20Star%20Gunner)

nagauthier
05-08-2006, 10:41 AM
Those high res pics are awesome. This is definitely my most anticipated figure of everything else coming this year. I'm hoping to pick up a half dozen of them.

Kunanuk
05-08-2006, 10:49 AM
By far the best figure in this wave. I'll buy two; one for Return of the Jedi and the other for A New Hope. Voilà! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Kunanuk
05-08-2006, 10:50 AM
You will be glad you waited - this one will be way better than the old Gunner.



Obviously. Any new figure will be better than the POTF2 ones.

Habs98
05-08-2006, 11:07 AM
Nice figure but why does Hasbro always pose Imperials holding blaster?

PizzatheHut
05-08-2006, 11:10 AM
Nice figure but why does Hasbro always pose Imperials holding blaster?



It's either holding a blaster or running, and personally I prefer just standing with blaster in hand.

protocol
05-08-2006, 11:16 AM
Me hunger for Empire black bad boys. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Warsaw_Wonder
05-08-2006, 11:17 AM
This is definitely my most anticipated figure of everything else coming this year.



Wait,...nobody has seen the Rebel Sentry from the future Yavin wave. He's my pick for the sleeper hit figure of the last half of 2006. Definitely the coolest looking Rebel from the OT. Too bad most fans don't know where to spot them in ANH !!!

Smudger9
05-08-2006, 11:22 AM
This is definitely my most anticipated figure of everything else coming this year.



Wait,...nobody has seen the Rebel Sentry from the future Yavin wave. He's my pick for the sleeper hit figure of the last half of 2006. Definitely the coolest looking Rebel from the OT. Too bad most fans don't know where to spot them in ANH !!!



Easy.... he's the one who gets his eyebrows singed by an X-wing in the special edition!

jedisrus
05-08-2006, 11:37 AM
The only thing that could have made this card better would be to have it look like the figure is firing the weapon.

Really looking forward to this one. Darn the swivel elbows though!

CobraKaiDojo
05-08-2006, 12:43 PM
...So why couldn't Veers' armor use this same system again?

Toonimator
05-08-2006, 01:05 PM
...because they hadn't thought it up until after they went "y'know, we should've figured a way to give the back-armor to Veers, fans are gonna be annoyed at us for leaving it out."

Then another guy said "Aw, don't fret, it'll just hide the fact that we gave him the wrong sidearm, like we give to EVERY Imperial nowadays."

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I like the way they did the armor. I know it's inaccurate, but he might look silly wearing a Sandtrooper-pauldron swung down over his chest, in toy form. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif I'm sure some folks'll try customizing the Saga Sandtrooper's black pauldron into DS Gunner armor!

Sev
05-08-2006, 02:41 PM
I'll get a few of him!

DarthMac
05-08-2006, 03:07 PM
yep, I need a couple of him.

iamjangofett75
05-08-2006, 03:58 PM
These more recent pictures make him look better than I thought he looked in the past. I'm a little more interested in this figure now.

GAR
05-08-2006, 04:06 PM
lol, looks like somebody got that nifty new armor backwards. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC41DSG2.jpg&text=Death%20Star%20Gunner

Nirvana
05-08-2006, 04:13 PM
Lol. That is pretty funny.

I'm really liking this fig, except for the fact that Hasbro should've painted the visor a glossy black...it doesn't stand out and it looks like there's not a visor.

Smudger9
05-08-2006, 04:13 PM
So... looks like ball knees but no ankles.... oh well knees are a bonus in themselves.

CommanderRedd
05-08-2006, 05:16 PM
Looks great carded. I will be buying.

GNT
05-08-2006, 07:06 PM
Wow he turned out better then I originally expected. Without a doubt one of the best figures for the year.

Darth_ball
05-08-2006, 07:23 PM
Better than the scout trooper?

Darth_Anton
05-08-2006, 07:36 PM
If considering price vs. articulation, perhaps. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

GNT
05-08-2006, 07:36 PM
LOL.... well for a basic carded release the Death Star Gunner figure would be the best or in at least the top 3. The Scout trooper would be the best out of the VTSC http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Both pretty good figures.

AmanaMatt
05-08-2006, 08:43 PM
Very nice figure....so, what film or movie did the vest come from, or is it made up? I do not remember it looking like that at all!?

DarthBuff
05-08-2006, 10:14 PM
Yeah, this fig is awesome.

Deak_Starkiller
05-08-2006, 10:20 PM
The armored gunners originated from ANH, which were removed later in ROTJ. The vintage POTF figure was modeled from the ROTJ uniforms while POTF2 figure sported the ANH outfit.

Lava
05-08-2006, 10:35 PM
i agree. it looks different than previous versions.

Toonimator
05-08-2006, 11:01 PM
The armor on the figure is inaccurate to the ANH armor, which should be a piece of motorcyclist leather padding identical or very close to those that were turned sideways to become Sandtrooper pauldrons.

Personally, I like what Hasbro did here much better. Brings the Gunners in line with other armored Imperials in terms of the shoulder straps, the back plate, and the general cut of the breastplate. And it's removable! Even better!

Duke
05-09-2006, 11:30 PM
I cant wait for this figure to come out. I still have my POTF2 Gunner and like him on the sole fact he helped blow up a planet. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jedi_Master_CPS
06-04-2006, 10:55 AM
How much of his stuff can come off?

DSIILuke
06-04-2006, 10:58 AM
Can't wait for this wave! The DS Gunner looks amazing.

Toonimator
06-04-2006, 11:32 AM
His armor slips over his head (or more likely, you pop the head off the neck-post to add or remove the armor). That's it! I'd suppose his gloves can pop off, and forearms at the elbows, but I don't think that's what you're really asking http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

GNT
07-08-2006, 02:09 AM
I know there's a DS Gunner thread somewhere, I searched, and couldn't find it, so please move this when found, but check this out. This figure just got even sweeter:

Death Star Gunner Removable Helmet!!! (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=5541&zoneid=2)

Graciously taken from GH.com! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif





You know what? This is a detriment to me. Besides the fact you never saw one without a helmet, which I can ignore, there is a serious problem with that figure.

Standing without a helmet, he looks like a riot cop in full gear with bullet-proof vest...

Ian





Why have a removable helmet for a figure that never removed his helmet on screen. I love removable helmets so I guess this is cool. The great thing is that if I don't like the removable helmet then I can just leave it on! Still, it is kinda odd.





For real, Ian? You don't think it's a nice little suprise?

I will agree with you on the riot cop comment tho. Not to be taken the wrong way (it's all in fun, have a sense of humor) but Lando better watch out when he's by these guys. Detroit or LA riots anyone?

*I don't want to be bashed for being "racisist", take my comments with a light-hearted approach http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif Thank you*





Cool little feature. If you dont like it with the helmet off then keep it on http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif





Actually, yeah DSIILuke.

I personally think they've taken a figure that could have been nice, and made it into the worst of the offerings for next year.

I'm not trying to be overly negative - I just simply don't think the removable helmet was necessary (and I'm 100% understanding that it can just be posed wearing the helmet), and the chest piece looks bad.

Ian







[I will agree with you on the riot cop comment tho. Not to be taken the wrong way (it's all in fun, have a sense of humor) but Lando better watch out when he's by these guys. Detroit or LA riots anyone?

*I don't want to be bashed for being "racisist", take my comments with a light-hearted approach http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif Thank you*



Though I can see the humor in your comment, if you're worried about someone taking what you said as being racist, then something should tell you not to post it on a public forum. Inevitably, someone will end up offended. Why risk it?



Cool little feature. If you dont like it with the helmet off then keep it on http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif





Actually, yeah DSIILuke.

I personally think they've taken a figure that could have been nice, and made it into the worst of the offerings for next year.

I'm not trying to be overly negative - I just simply don't think the removable helmet was necessary (and I'm 100% understanding that it can just be posed wearing the helmet), and the chest piece looks bad.

Ian





Though I can see the humor in your comment, if you're worried about someone taking what you said as being racist, then something should tell you not to post it on a public forum. Inevitably, someone will end up offended. Why risk it?





Well, to each his own my friend. I respect your opinions, as I always look foward to readin' what your take is on things, and even tho we go seperate ways on this one, your point, in it's respective way, is a good point none-the-less. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif





Not next year, my friend. These are already being found at retail.







Why have a removable helmet for a figure that never removed his helmet on screen.


I agree. I don't want to see depictions of things that were never revealed in the OT. I don't want PT or EU stuff used to fill in blanks. What happened to preserving a sense of mystery? What's next, Tuskens and Jawas with exposed faces?





So we can have more stuff for Temuera Morrison to autograph.

whhoooohoooooo http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif





But whats so bad about it? I mean if you have a problem in the helmet then leave it on. I dont think the death star trooper is going to remove it himself http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif personally I dont think it was nessecary either and am leaving the helmet on him but if it has a removable helmet I dont think it will make it one of the worst figures of the year.





DSIILuke,

thanks for the info. I like the removable helmet. Was planning to skip the next wave entirely, but I plan to get at least one and maybe more now.





LOL!

Well, considering our distribution issues here in Canada, it probably WILL be next year before we finally see them. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif Thanks for correcting me though.

DSIILuke, not a problem. It's kinda nice to be a part of a civil debate for once. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Ian









Why have a removable helmet for a figure that never removed his helmet on screen.


I agree. I don't want to see depictions of things that were never revealed in the OT. I don't want PT or EU stuff used to fill in blanks. What happened to preserving a sense of mystery? What's next, Tuskens and Jawas with exposed faces?


Thats happend accualy http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif





Agreed sir, not senseless bickering with noobs. However, I always get a kick out of watching you burn them countless times with nothing but sheer knowledge. I guess the collectors (such as ourselves) with 12+ years under the ole belts know a thing or two.

As for the DS Gunner, I think it's really cool that the helmet is removable. Great for giving us a look into the 'eyes of the empire'. Even tho it wasn't in the films, it's still a cool little feature I'm glad hasbro put in! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif







But whats so bad about it? I mean if you have a problem in the helmet then leave it on. I dont think the death star trooper is going to remove it himself http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif personally I dont think it was nessecary either and am leaving the helmet on him but if it has a removable helmet I dont think it will make it one of the worst figures of the year.



Read the whole thing. I acknowledged that I can leave the helmet on, and it's just a personal opinion.

But when a figure looks like it belongs in an L.A. Riot diorama more than a Death Star one, it's not a good figure. That chest piece is almost my entire reason for disliking this figure.

With any luck, it's the lighting in the pic making it stand out so much, and in person it will not be so noticeable.

Ian







LOL!

Well, considering our distribution issues here in Canada, it probably WILL be next year before we finally see them. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif Thanks for correcting me though.




Oh s--- ... that's right. You live in Canada. My mistake. You may not see these until next year.
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/blush.gif





It's a mixed bag for me. I was really looking forward to this figure, one of my favorites troops onscreen, and this takes away from "death star gunner" as in the movies. Especially if the helmet looks screwy on and in hand. But at the same time- it's pretty cool. I will pick it up.





I remember picking up one of these guys in 1998 and I was really hoping this figure would be awsome. Ill have to see some better pics though.





So where's the report that these are turning up at retail??





I wonder why his eyes are red, I didn't think the empire had demons working for them.. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif





Well, duh, obviously they're using an inferior camera, and the poor guy has red-eye from the flash.

Most photo software could have removed that. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ian







So where's the report that these are turning up at retail??



Yeah, where did he find them? Throw us a bone!









I wonder why his eyes are red,



Well, duh, obviously they're using an inferior camera, and the poor guy has red-eye from the flash.

Most photo software could have removed that. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ian




LMFAO!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif right in the poor [censored]'s face!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif





Wow.

This just proves that Star Wars fans can and will complain about anything.

It seems to me that the removable helmet will make it easier for the chest piece to slip on and off. And makes the figure great for customs.

No matter how hard you try, you can't please a Star Wars fan.





You just figured that out. If you dont like the helmey, keep it on.but that doesnt really add to a thread. If you want hasbro to do more removable helmets, you should encourage them, not say that a cool suprise ruins a figure http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

GNT
07-08-2006, 02:13 AM
I've got to admit the Death Star Gunner does look neat without the helmet on and with those red "sith eyes" hehehehe http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Cant wait to see the a new tusken with removable mask http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Tlaloc
07-08-2006, 02:21 AM
The tusken better not look like Temuera Morrison.

JoeRhyno
07-08-2006, 02:22 AM
That's pretty cool, while I know he never took his helmet off in the movie.. neither did the Scout Trooper "flip up" his visor, but they're still both cool little features..
The gunner looks a lot like a Jango clone.. which is kinda odd, but still kinda neat.. and the red eyes.. hmmm.. maybe they were cloned with special eye sight, for enhanced vision???
I really like the head the more I look at it, like the Cloud car Pilot, I tip my hat to thee Hasbro..
As a customizer... hmm.. that head would be perfect for a certain metallic blue cyborg police officer we all loved back in the 80s... hmmm..

hatch5
07-08-2006, 02:37 AM
I'm loving the removable helmet feature. If you have a look at the 365 days Star Wars behind the scenes book there is a photo of two extras, one of which is playing a death star gunner and he has the helmet off and the same black cowl thing underneath so its a nice little touch!

StarWarsMonsters
07-08-2006, 02:41 AM
The tusken better not look like Temuera Morrison.


Where are we getting the idea that there's an unmasked Tusken figure coming?

RogueWompRat
07-08-2006, 02:45 AM
That removable helmet is so awesome! Count me in for two of these Jango clones!

StarWarsMonsters
07-08-2006, 02:45 AM
So where's the report that these are turning up at retail??


I pay a lot of attention. I looked at the pic of unmasked gunner, and didn't read a word of the article (wherein it says the figures have been found).

Toonimator
07-08-2006, 02:56 AM
Just as a joke, Tarfful.

Neat that the helmet's removable, crappy that it's a Jango head, like the AT-AT Scout appears to be as well. Besides the fact that no troopers with audible voices in the OT sound anything like Jango, and that a Death Star Gunner's probably closer to a Death Star Trooper or a regular officer or crewman than a Stormtrooper and thus should look like any ol' human, it sets a bad precedent. The current version is that there's a wide variety of clone templates being used, in addition to recruits. We know for a fact that the officers, crewman, and regular troopers all look different. Why should the Gunners be clones, and worse, clones of clones? Is it simply because they've got helmets which cover their entire heads? Did Hasbro jump to the same conclusions about the Gunners that many folks did about the Firespeeder Pilot after reading the Visual Dictionary?

If there's reference of an extra in a cowl holding the helmet in his hands, I wish Hasbro had used that extra's face for reference as in the Naboo Soldier (unless, of course, the guy looked like the Col. Sanders Stormtrooper from the infamous "Triumph at Attack of the Clones" clip). I just don't like the notion that EVERY Imperial even remotely thought of as a trooper in the OT will end up as a Jango Clone in the eyes of the collecting world... bad enough "BARC Trooper" may forever more be how a large percentage of collectors & kids think of the Kashyyyk Trooper! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Disappointing... but hey, the helmet can stay on! And the fact there's an actual head underneath and not a helmet-standard giant ball post means other heads may fit on the neck, better for customizers! Still a great figure.

Ian, just remove the armor! Then it'll be an ROTJ Gunner (I think? armor is from one film, jumpsuit another) and won't look so much like a riot-geared cop.

GNT
07-08-2006, 02:56 AM
Where are we getting the idea that there's an unmasked Tusken figure coming?



No tusken with removable mask is coming, I think we're all poking fun at who could be next with a jango style head if Hasbro doesnt stop. LOL

DouglasMcc
07-08-2006, 03:02 AM
Okay, I really do not get the complaining going on with the removable helmet. Its a nice new feature Hasbro didn't have to give us. And if you do not like it, leave the helmet on. We really are starting to act like spoiled children at Christmas with Hasbro lately:

Hasbro: Well, I got you this wonderful new gunner.. he's got all the articulation you asked for, and he's even got a removable helmet.

Scummers: Aww man, I wanted one with blue eyes.... *pouts* ... I hate you Hasblow!


Poor sculpters can never win with you guys http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

jodokast421
07-08-2006, 03:19 AM
I agree the removable helmet is a nice touch, for the money that we are spending its either the removable helmet( which I think is totally cool) or a "action feature"(judo chop.king fu kick) .Personally I hope that they do this with a stormtrooper.way to go hasbro!!!!

Jonny_Rotten
07-08-2006, 06:10 AM
Just as a joke, Tarfful.

Neat that the helmet's removable, crappy that it's a Jango head, like the AT-AT Scout appears to be as well. Besides the fact that no troopers with audible voices in the OT sound anything like Jango, and that a Death Star Gunner's probably closer to a Death Star Trooper or a regular officer or crewman than a Stormtrooper and thus should look like any ol' human, it sets a bad precedent. The current version is that there's a wide variety of clone templates being used, in addition to recruits. We know for a fact that the officers, crewman, and regular troopers all look different. Why should the Gunners be clones, and worse, clones of clones? Is it simply because they've got helmets which cover their entire heads? Did Hasbro jump to the same conclusions about the Gunners that many folks did about the Firespeeder Pilot after reading the Visual Dictionary?

If there's reference of an extra in a cowl holding the helmet in his hands, I wish Hasbro had used that extra's face for reference as in the Naboo Soldier (unless, of course, the guy looked like the Col. Sanders Stormtrooper from the infamous "Triumph at Attack of the Clones" clip). I just don't like the notion that EVERY Imperial even remotely thought of as a trooper in the OT will end up as a Jango Clone in the eyes of the collecting world... bad enough "BARC Trooper" may forever more be how a large percentage of collectors & kids think of the Kashyyyk Trooper! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Disappointing... but hey, the helmet can stay on! And the fact there's an actual head underneath and not a helmet-standard giant ball post means other heads may fit on the neck, better for customizers! Still a great figure.

Ian, just remove the armor! Then it'll be an ROTJ Gunner (I think? armor is from one film, jumpsuit another) and won't look so much like a riot-geared cop.




What's the infamous "Triumph at Attack of the Clones" clip)?

Lady_Jaye
07-08-2006, 06:14 AM
This is what I'm not liking, why do they have to look lik Jango!! I hate that!! Enough already with the Clones, I'm sure about this time they have had plenty of time to recruit!!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif

AmanaMatt
07-08-2006, 08:01 AM
I hear a lot of white noise type *****n about a cool feature. Hasbro could have either made it look like a Jango clone - which is logical to a degree, or make it look like a generic white guy.

The feature is cool. I am still annoyed that the vest is nothing like the movie - if not for that, this would be my fav fig for 2006! When it comes to accuracy, I want it to look like the vest from the movies!

Also, anyone else here shocked that Galactichunter is again reporting news? Seriously, they used to be one of the best sites, but lately, just do fluff!

Darth_Huntarr
07-08-2006, 08:19 AM
I read the article - I still don't know WHERE the Endor wave is being found!

Very cool feature though! I may have to get one just to open & check it out!

stylie_steve
07-08-2006, 08:20 AM
To me that head sculpt looks nothing like Temurea Morrison but more like The Rock!

But I do like the feature, its a nice touch and adds a little more to the figure. If you don't like it just leave the helmet on. Simple as that!

truth1
07-08-2006, 08:26 AM
Could someone post the actual pic instead of the link? Im at work and apparently Galactic Hunter is classified as "provocative attire" according to my work cpu. You sure his "helmet" isn't the only thing thats removable?

hansolo_506
07-08-2006, 08:32 AM
Well, it is the Mighty H's half-arsed attempt at another Morrison clone.

I am getting a little sick of here's a clone, there's a clone..but the removable lid is a nice little touch. I mean, this is just another way for H to help inflict GL's changes in the OT upon us in a small (3 3/4 inch) way.

Give it up, H!

By the time of the OT, the Empire had to bring in recruits to supplement the clones that had died off from the PT. You know they are recruits for one reason and one reason only....








....the recruit Stormtroopers are VERY POOR SHOTS! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

HungSoLow
07-08-2006, 08:39 AM
I'm loving the removable helmet feature. If you have a look at the 365 days Star Wars behind the scenes book there is a photo of two extras, one of which is playing a death star gunner and he has the helmet off and the same black cowl thing underneath so its a nice little touch!



I don't have this book so can someone post this image? I would love to see it.
Thanks

sbarrett4
07-08-2006, 08:42 AM
The gunner looks a lot like a Jango clone.. which is kinda odd, but still kinda neat.. and the red eyes.. hmmm.. maybe they were cloned with special eye sight, for enhanced vision???




All the Jango clones have red eyes.

I like the removable helmet and hope Hasbro continues this trend, but like others, I am also not so happy that its a Jango clone under there.

If Hasbro keeps making removable helmet figs, I hope they use different heads for each, and make them interchangable for easy customizing, which would = more sales for them.

GNT
07-08-2006, 08:47 AM
Could someone post the actual pic instead of the link? Im at work and apparently Galactic Hunter is classified as "provocative attire" according to my work cpu. You sure his "helmet" isn't the only thing thats removable?



Here you go truth1!

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//600/dsgfull_1_.jpg

truth1
07-08-2006, 08:48 AM
Thanks! That pic is sweet. I'll be buying quite a few of these.

Nihilus
07-08-2006, 08:52 AM
sweet! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

GNT
07-08-2006, 08:53 AM
No problems! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif Got to get a few myself.

Neal
07-08-2006, 09:05 AM
Enough already with the Clones, I'm sure about this time they have had plenty of time to recruit!!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif



And plenty of time to make more Clones.
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

JoeRhyno
07-08-2006, 09:09 AM
All the Jango clones have red eyes.



They do? THat's odd, cause the hand full of clones sitting near me all have brown eyes, Cody, Evo, Tac Ops and that Tank gunner rolling his brown eyes at me... There's a little red dot on part of the puple, but that's it(but then, only on the evo and gunner), the actual iris is brown/black though http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

DSIILuke
07-08-2006, 10:31 AM
Thanks for movin the thread GNT, I couldn't find it last nite for the life of me.


Great figure, can't wait to have these bad boys, I'll have 2 via EE, so one's def. gettin opened!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Rocket_Back
07-08-2006, 11:02 AM
The earlier pictures of this figure that hit the net had better looking chest armor. I wonder why they changed it? The before looked much better. The removable helmet doesn't really bother me so much, but the red eyes are a little strange. No biggie really, but if just kind of makes me scratch my head a little. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif All in all, the figure is still pretty cool looking and I'll definately pick one up.

DSIILuke
07-08-2006, 11:08 AM
The earlier pictures of this figure that hit the net had better looking chest armor. I wonder why they changed it? The before looked much better. The removable helmet doesn't really bother me so much, but the red eyes are a little strange. No biggie really, but if just kind of makes me scratch my head a little. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif All in all, the figure is still pretty cool looking and I'll definately pick one up.




I believe that figure was personally opened up by adam pawlus, it may have been the way he put the armor back on, maybe slopply like. Who knows, but I dont think it looks like that, hopefully... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Paulskywalker
07-08-2006, 11:29 AM
Why all the hate for Jango clones? Yeah they had recruits and other clones, someone said why clone clone's but they didn't they just carried on using the Jango DNA for cloning which like any DNA can be replicated. Battlefront 2 the PT 501st clones are on Hoth with Vader. So i see no problem with this, just the usual haters who moan they don't get anything new and when they do they whindge about something!

CobraKaiDojo
07-08-2006, 12:35 PM
This makes TSC AT-AT Driver (which is still a beautiful figure) look like a piece of poo in a shoebox.

Sorry guys, there's nothing to complain about here.

DSIILuke
07-08-2006, 12:41 PM
This makes TSC AT-AT Driver (which is still a beautiful figure) look like a piece of poo in a shoebox.

Sorry guys, there's nothing to complain about here.




Agreed, although not with your AT-AT driver comment, as I too love that figure, I dont find it any less better sculpted than this one. Both kick [censored]! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Leif
07-08-2006, 12:45 PM
Great, now I need like 4 or 5 of them. Awesome eyes. Hopefully they will stay red and it isn't just camera flash. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hasbro should make a version of every troooper with a removable helmet. Why they didn't with the ATAT Driver is beyond me.

Naval_Trooper
07-08-2006, 12:48 PM
Enough already with the Clones, I'm sure about this time they have had plenty of time to recruit!!! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif



And plenty of time to make more Clones.
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Actually my imperial sourcebook says that gunners were either pilots in training or pilots who failed to make the grade. And we all know that most imperial pilots were recruits and not clones.

SpecialOpsUnit
07-08-2006, 12:50 PM
It was never confirmed that all the stormtroopers etc were human. Plenty of units could of been clones. Where would Kamino put the extra clones they had shortly after the Clone Wars? Of coarse to the Empire.

Anyway back on topic I'll be getting 3 at least. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

DouglasMcc
07-08-2006, 01:30 PM
Sorry, I still do not think that looks much like Jango. Maybe its a bad sculpt of Jango... but that still changes the likeness enough to make it different. Couldn't a human recruit have similar skin tone and a rough similarity to Jango? Heck, maybe its automatic bonus points on your application if you look that way hehe http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

P.S. I am color blind. However, I had a friend look at my Clones today. None of them have red eyes. My friend's theory though cracked me up. She said, "maybe that recruit is a Vader groupie and bought him some Sith-colored contact lenses to feel cool." http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DouglasMcc
07-08-2006, 01:33 PM
Great, now I need like 4 or 5 of them. Awesome eyes. Hopefully they will stay red and it isn't just camera flash. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hasbro should make a version of every troooper with a removable helmet. Why they didn't with the ATAT Driver is beyond me.



I believe LucasFilms still have final say on all figure sculpts. While I am slightly surprised they allowed Hasbro to do a removable helmet here, its not that big a stretch. However, with the debate over clone/human for stormtroopers, I doubt LF lets Hasbro open that "can of worms." The *****in' would rival the force upheaval after Alderaan blew up http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Nirvana
07-08-2006, 01:51 PM
The gunner looks a lot like a Jango clone.. which is kinda odd, but still kinda neat.. and the red eyes.. hmmm.. maybe they were cloned with special eye sight, for enhanced vision???




Well, it has a clone-ish face sculpt, but the skin color is too pale to match the other clones that Hasbro has released.

So it looks like the Imperials = Clones/Humans still won't end! http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

darth_sidious
07-08-2006, 02:16 PM
I think a removable helmet is a great feature for an OT trooper, since we dont get to see those like we do in PT troopers. Likewise, making the face that of a clone, it also ties the OT to the PT more - perhaps Lucas will stick a few helmetless troops in the OT, if he adds more changes to the next DVD release of all 6 films... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

DarthBuff
07-08-2006, 03:08 PM
Too cool! I am in for a bunch!

Nirvana
07-08-2006, 03:11 PM
Is it just me, or does the chest armor look a little oversized?

Toonimator
07-08-2006, 05:32 PM
Why all the hate for Jango clones? Yeah they had recruits and other clones, someone said why clone clone's but they didn't they just carried on using the Jango DNA for cloning which like any DNA can be replicated. Battlefront 2 the PT 501st clones are on Hoth with Vader. So i see no problem with this, just the usual haters who moan they don't get anything new and when they do they whindge about something!


No, they'd be cloning clones of Jango! In AOTC, the Kaminoans tell Obi-Wan that they keep Jango on-hand often to provide FRESH DNA for a new batch of clones. So with him long dead, they'd be making copies of copies. And again, Battlefront 2 is NOT canon. There's tons of stuff in there that contradicts plenty of already-established EU and movie continuity.

Jonny_Rotten, the "Triumph at Attack of the Clones" I refer to is the clip from Conan O'Brien's show where Triumph the Insult Comic Dog visits a New York line waiting for the premiere of AOTC. Hundreds of folks lined up for days or weeks, many in costume, and Triumph talks one Stormtrooper into removing his helmet only to yell "Put it back on!" when he sees what's underneath. I thought every Star Wars fanboy had seen this http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Paulskywalker
07-08-2006, 05:40 PM
oh ok yeah, still Jangos DNA if they clone, clones but it would degrade so i think the Kaminoans being an intelligent bunch could fix that problem. Even though i think young Jango clones exist at the time of ROTJ.

GNT
07-08-2006, 06:42 PM
Thanks for movin the thread GNT, I couldn't find it last nite for the life of me.



No problems, just a helpfull hint the Index Thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1293433) is pinned up the top of the saga collection section - It links to all the main threads!

SonoftheBoss
07-09-2006, 12:59 AM
No, they'd be cloning clones of Jango! In AOTC, the Kaminoans tell Obi-Wan that they keep Jango on-hand often to provide FRESH DNA for a new batch of clones. So with him long dead, they'd be making copies of copies.



ummm all they said in the movie was that they "keep him here." never say anything about needing fresh dna.

acording to various EU refs, jango was kept there to conduct training programs.

EternalJedi
07-09-2006, 01:29 AM
ummm all they said in the movie was that they "keep him here." never say anything about needing fresh dna.



Precisely. I think it's bloody obvious from the prequel films that Lucas' intention is that the Empire-era stormtroopers and pilots are basically the same as the clone armies. This "some stormtroopers are clones while others are recruits" stuff is just plain asinine and an attempt to not invalidate stories written about stormtroopers who were not clones. What would be the freaking point?

The stormtroopers, TIE pilots, AT-AT drivers and Imperial gunners are probably all clones, just like they were during the Clone Wars. And there isn't any reason why they wouldn't be of the Jango DNA. This "fresh DNA" stuff sounds like nonsense to me, and certainly wasn't in the movies.

Sev
07-09-2006, 02:14 AM
Count me in for a couple! This thing looked neat but the removable helmet is what's makin me get multiples!

Toonimator
07-09-2006, 04:22 AM
ummm all they said in the movie was that they "keep him here." never say anything about needing fresh dna.

acording to various EU refs, jango was kept there to conduct training programs.


From the Databank:

</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font>
The Kaminoans provided Fett with private accommodations in their hermetic Tipoca City, and Jango dropped out of the bounty hunting limelight. He concentrated on teaching his son, the unaltered clone he named Boba, the ropes of survival and combat while the Kaminoans extracted genetic material to build thousands of clone soldiers.

[/QUOTE]

The implication I've always had is his being kept on-hand was to provide new genetic material, and the Databank helps confirm it. His EU role was increased after AOTC to include training programs, recruiting Mandalorian instructors, training the ARCs, all that stuff.

And to the follow-up calling the clones/recruits idea nonsense and that Lucas intended every trooper and/or fully-helmeted Imperial to be Jango... it's logic that has many of us believing there must be recruits (ie, bad shots) and/or other clones. If Lucas intended them all to be Jangos, he'd likely have had Morrison redub all the OT Stormtrooper lines during the DVD recording sessions for Boba Fett. All the clones of ROTS speak with Jango's accent, and Boba does as well 20+ years later, so reason dictates the Stormies should as well, or at the very least should sound like the same person if they're all still clones of one template. And where do you draw the line at who's a Jango clone? If AT-AT Drivers are supposed to be, and who's to say they are, why don't the AT-ST Drivers look like him?

Anyway, it's still a good action figure.

Paulskywalker
07-09-2006, 05:55 AM
I don't hold credency with the whole all Jango Clones should sound like Jango because any expert will tell you accents come from the people around us when were growing up ie. a European baby whos brought up in America will sound American. So no problem if Clones and Boba who trained and lived alongside Jango having his accent but by the time of the OT these Jango clones would only know him in a history lesson so there accents would derive from the people who brought them up, which would of been Imperial Scientists and trainers.

Decepticon
07-09-2006, 06:03 AM
I think it's a fact that all stormtroopers are supposed to be of Fett lineage. When the clones were revealed in episode II, everyone in the theater made the connection to the stormtroopers. Lucas was telling us the backstory without overtly stating it! Granted, some of the EU material doesn't fit in with this but that's just too bad. I don't think Lucas would have gone back to change the stormtrooper's voices in the OT because they are already "mechanical."

Some may say this is just an opinion, but based on the FILMS it's the only logical conclusion. Star Wars film fans with no knowledge of the endless databanks of "information" out there do not believe otherwise.

It may be that Jango's DNA did "degrade," and thus the poor marksmanship of the stormtroopers compared to the original clones. Cloned animals definitely have problems with degradation of DNA- this is a scientific fact.

Trooper31
07-09-2006, 06:31 AM
Lucas stated during the filming of ROTS that not all Stormtroopers are Jango clones. Some are, but others are recruits and some are clones of other people.

Back on topic. This is a nice surprise from Hasbro. This figure lookds cool.

saddestmoon
07-09-2006, 07:10 AM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif This figure look kewl!

Bring on the imperial troops, I say! Stormtroopers, Naval troopers, Gunners, etc...

GAR
07-09-2006, 08:49 AM
Wow! Removable helmet? That's going above & beyond Hasbro! I was in for one of these for sure, but it looks like I'm going to need at least 2 or 3 of these bad boys. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif



Lucas stated during the filming of ROTS that not all Stormtroopers are Jango clones. Some are, but others are recruits and some are clones of other people.



Right on. Debate over as far as I'm concerned.

Jangodo
07-09-2006, 09:22 AM
Awesome figure! I can't wait to get this guy. The Sandtrooper and AT-AT driver have been the only new Imperial troopers in a long time (ROTS clones notwithstanding).

INDY
07-09-2006, 01:33 PM
Once someone here finds one, could they check the figure's height compared to some other imperials? I thought that the Gunner looked a little tall from the previous images.

DSIILuke
07-09-2006, 01:49 PM
Once someone here finds one, could they check the figure's height compared to some other imperials? I thought that the Gunner looked a little tall from the previous images.




I've heard these hit on the west coast, so it should be soon

CHEWIE
07-09-2006, 03:11 PM
50. That's how many of this figure I want.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Dsdude9
07-09-2006, 03:33 PM
Once someone here finds one, could they check the figure's height compared to some other imperials? I thought that the Gunner looked a little tall from the previous images.



I ll keep my eyes peeled
I've heard these hit on the west coast, so it should be soon

TheMurderWeapon
07-09-2006, 03:34 PM
Im sure this has already been pointed out, but is the chest armor clone trooper armor??? it doesnt look like stormie armor. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Toonimator
07-09-2006, 03:50 PM
It's certainly closer to Clone armor than Stormie armor, but both are totally wrong for Gunners. The actual armor worn in ANH were the same kinds of motorcyclist pads used for Sandtrooper pauldrons, only they were properly draped down the front of the torso.

echo1441
07-09-2006, 05:35 PM
50. That's how many of this figure I want.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



Why am I not surprised? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I think I'll be happy with around 4. Unless I find some good reason to buy more which is not entiely out of the question

DSIILuke
07-09-2006, 05:43 PM
50. That's how many of this figure I want.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



Why am I not surprised? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I think I'll be happy with around 4. Unless I find some good reason to buy more which is not entiely out of the question



I want at least 2 carded, 1 loose. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

clonesnyper
07-09-2006, 05:46 PM
do you think for the death star trooper they will take this guys armor of and switch helmets?? Cause that might be why he has a removeable helmet.

Decepticon
07-09-2006, 05:51 PM
I think you may be right sniper. With the removable helmet, he's an easy retool. Myself, I only want one. And because of all the hoarders on these boards, I'll probably have to resort to the secondary market. I actually have a life and a real job so I can't storm the doors of Target at 8am like so many of you seem to be able to do.

Toonimator
07-09-2006, 06:08 PM
do you think for the death star trooper they will take this guys armor of and switch helmets?? Cause that might be why he has a removeable helmet.


I hope not. For one thing, a Jango head on a DS Trooper body is spectacularly wrong, and there's no all-OT-masked-Imperials-are-Jango-clones fan out there that can dispute the fact that the DS Troopers we see can only be recruits or clones of other hosts.

True, they could just throw a new head on it, but that bring to point #2 -- wrong outfit! While there may be some jumpsuit DS Troopers in ROTJ, those we see in ANH & ESB (we can call 'em Star Destroyer Troopers, or Naval Troopers, whatever) are wearing tunicked uniforms ala Imperial Officers (and even the POTJ/Saga Imp Officer got THAT wrong, again with jumpsuits).

And for new black-uniform Officers, better to use Jerjerrod-type arms without full flared gloves. At most, I *think* most officers wear gloves more like Luke's ROTJ black glove, not extending over the sleeve.

DSIILuke
07-09-2006, 06:10 PM
do you think for the death star trooper they will take this guys armor of and switch helmets?? Cause that might be why he has a removeable helmet.


I hope not. For one thing, a Jango head on a DS Trooper body is spectacularly wrong, and there's no all-OT-masked-Imperials-are-Jango-clones fan out there that can dispute the fact that the DS Troopers we see can only be recruits or clones of other hosts.

True, they could just throw a new head on it, but that bring to point #2 -- wrong outfit! While there may be some jumpsuit DS Troopers in ROTJ, those we see in ANH & ESB (we can call 'em Star Destroyer Troopers, or Naval Troopers, whatever) are wearing tunicked uniforms ala Imperial Officers (and even the POTJ/Saga Imp Officer got THAT wrong, again with jumpsuits).

And for new black-uniform Officers, better to use Jerjerrod-type arms without full flared gloves. At most, I *think* most officers wear gloves more like Luke's ROTJ black glove, not extending over the sleeve.




Great point toon!

clonesnyper
07-09-2006, 06:15 PM
yeah toon i your probably right. it wouldnt really make sense for him to be the death star trooper.

Decepticon
07-09-2006, 06:27 PM
A well articulated point toon. I think you may have hit the nail on the head, in fact.

DarthHavok1
07-09-2006, 06:31 PM
Nice action figure. They've surprized us with the Dagobah X-Wing, Zev, new Scout Trooper with the AT-AT, now the Death Star Gunner. Now Hasbro, take the PoTF pilot out of the new TIE Fighter and replace it with the OTC version, stick a new head sculpt on, give him a removable helmet, and give us a Soontir Fel http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif.

Toonimator
07-09-2006, 07:03 PM
A well articulated point toon. I think you may have hit the nail on the head, in fact.


Thanks! But go easy on the so-called 'hoarders'... there's a LOT more collectors than those that post here, and probably plenty that don't visit the collector sites at all! also the 'real job' comment was a bit harsh. I've got a 'real job', 40+ hours a week, but fortunately I can make my own hours to a degree and only live 6 miles from work, so I can make the Target trek at 8am. Even so, it's usually the scalpers of the area that drain all the good figures, even the troops. I've got dozens of clones, and the stores I hit at the time were loaded with them; guys like Chewie, they acquire figures from several different sources, including other Scummers, so they're not causing a big drain (and in Chewie's case, probably more than half those Gunners will be used in customs for his Rykrof Enloe novel, creating tons of new characters!).

While the DS Gunner is a fantastic figure, besides customizes, I doubt the other 'hoarders', the Army-Builders, will go super-crazy with these; not like with clones or Stormtroopers. With the possible exception of the Emperor's Arrival on the DSII, there's never more than, what, 4? 5? on the screen in ANH or ROTJ, so these bad boys SHOULD show up often, ala the AT-AT Driver which can still often be found at retail!

Decepticon
07-09-2006, 07:09 PM
You're right. My comments were a little harsh, but they were written out of frustration. I'm just not having much luck lately at the stores finding what I want. If it weren't for the help of a fellow scummer via a trade, I would never have obtained the Hunt for Grievous BP. Hopefully, the DS gunner will be a bit easier to find than the others. Thanks for helping me keep my perspective toon.

BoomBot
07-09-2006, 07:38 PM
Why they made the helmet removable, I'll never know. I would've preferred it without tha feature, but oh well.

CHEWIE
07-10-2006, 10:43 AM
50. That's how many of this figure I want.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



Why am I not surprised? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I think I'll be happy with around 4. Unless I find some good reason to buy more which is not entiely out of the question



I want at least 2 carded, 1 loose. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif



I'm glad I didn't get blasted for wanting so many. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I think I want about 15-20 for various dioramas, and then the rest for customs. I just can't get over how cool this figure looks for customizing potential. It's nearly perfect.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

spitty
07-10-2006, 11:58 AM
A well articulated point toon. I think you may have hit the nail on the head, in fact.


Thanks! But go easy on the so-called 'hoarders'... there's a LOT more collectors than those that post here, and probably plenty that don't visit the collector sites at all! also the 'real job' comment was a bit harsh. I've got a 'real job', 40+ hours a week, but fortunately I can make my own hours to a degree and only live 6 miles from work, so I can make the Target trek at 8am. Even so, it's usually the scalpers of the area that drain all the good figures, even the troops. I've got dozens of clones, and the stores I hit at the time were loaded with them; guys like Chewie, they acquire figures from several different sources, including other Scummers, so they're not causing a big drain (and in Chewie's case, probably more than half those Gunners will be used in customs for his Rykrof Enloe novel, creating tons of new characters!).

While the DS Gunner is a fantastic figure, besides customizes, I doubt the other 'hoarders', the Army-Builders, will go super-crazy with these; not like with clones or Stormtroopers. With the possible exception of the Emperor's Arrival on the DSII, there's never more than, what, 4? 5? on the screen in ANH or ROTJ, so these bad boys SHOULD show up often, ala the AT-AT Driver which can still often be found at retail!



I hoard. wasn't planning to buy the death star gunner cause I didnt know what the appeal was. Found out, like everyone, that the helmet is removable and that face/ski mask is there--now I plan to get 1-2. I see a lot of potential for a driver or pilot of a vechicle.

Jangodo
07-10-2006, 12:40 PM
Why they made the helmet removable, I'll never know. I would've preferred it without tha feature, but oh well.



You can always leave the helmet on and pretend there's no "feature." http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

LandoFrychickien
07-10-2006, 12:56 PM
Unreal, I cannot believe the whining going on with this figure. This is one of the coolest looking figures produced in the last four years. Definately in the top 10! And it's not good enough before it's even in any bodys hands. But I bet everyone who's complained will be scarfing these up like lucky charms when they hit the shelves and bragging about how many they have.
Great Work Hasbro!

CHEWIE
07-10-2006, 02:14 PM
I agree, I am baffled why anyone would be complaining about that figure. Looks spectacular.

Complainers pass on these if you want, leave more for me.

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CHEWIE
07-10-2006, 02:16 PM
I think you may be right sniper. With the removable helmet, he's an easy retool. Myself, I only want one. And because of all the hoarders on these boards, I'll probably have to resort to the secondary market. I actually have a life and a real job so I can't storm the doors of Target at 8am like so many of you seem to be able to do.



I have a real job too, and sorry if people who collect army builders make it harder. My real job helps me pay for my collection though (and my house, cars, etc.). Plus I go out of my way to look for figures in my spare time.

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BoomBot
07-10-2006, 03:07 PM
Why they made the helmet removable, I'll never know. I would've preferred it without tha feature, but oh well.



You can always leave the helmet on and pretend there's no "feature." http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Well, that's what I'll have to do. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Wow, someone makes one criticism, and everyone goes primal (not directed towards you, Jangodo)...

I'll still be picking one up, but that's it. This isn't an army-builder for me. Yes, I still like the figure.

DarthBuff
07-10-2006, 03:28 PM
I do not see why people want to complain about this fig.

AmanaMatt
07-10-2006, 03:45 PM
People complain to just complain..... http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I did complain about the non-accurate vest, but I love this fig overall. Like the first DSG, I expected this to be kitbashed from the new Tie Pilot from a couple years back, so I am happy it appears all new!

DarthBuff
07-10-2006, 09:51 PM
Now if we can get a SA Death Star Trooper!!!

DELuke
07-10-2006, 10:34 PM
That's pretty cool, while I know he never took his helmet off in the movie.. neither did the Scout Trooper "flip up" his visor, but they're still both cool little features..


Actually,in the Empire comics,you see a few Scout Troopers with there visors flipped up while battling the natives on the planet. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

GNT
07-11-2006, 02:55 AM
I do not see why people want to complain about this fig.



For once Hasbro did something right, they shouldn't be blasted at all about putting more into a figure like the Death Star Gunner.

DarthJace
07-13-2006, 10:30 AM
Love the armor/no armor option and think the helmet's a cool little bonus. (Though I'll probably leave mine helmeted.)

The red eyes give me pause, but that's nothing a little paint can't fix. In my experience being able to customize even 5% (basic X-Acto skills, very basic painting, which is about all I can do) lets you take care of 75% of complaints yourself.

Really eager to see a new Death Star Trooper -- he's now the only one of the "New Original 12" stuck in a weird pose with a too-big gun.

Toonimator
07-13-2006, 11:57 AM
For once Hasbro did something right, they shouldn't be blasted at all about putting more into a figure like the Death Star Gunner.


The chief complaint isn't simply that they added extra goodies, but that they made the decision to make DS Gunners Jango clones for no good reason. Why would Gunners be clones, when the officers giving them the order to fire aren't, let alone the helmetless crewmen or the open-faced helmeted DS Troopers? It's just silly to think the Empire would waste the resources to breed a clone purely for combat with programmed loyalty, then have him push buttons & pull levers on a Death Star cannon.

Since1978
07-13-2006, 12:16 PM
Now if we can get a SA Death Star Trooper!!!



And that my friends is a SUPERB candidate for the Vintage line - but it has to be released as the "Death Squad Commander"!

It's one of the original twelve, and THE only one of the twelve that hasn't been done in this format, pending the arrival of the Jawa in next year's line...

So that's how we need to lobby for this one...

Otherwise, the new DS Gunner looks GREAT! I'll be getting a few...

'78

Lady_Jaye
07-13-2006, 06:35 PM
I hope they use a completely new head scumpt for the Death Star Trooper!! I did not once see a Jango Clone as one of them!!! They better use accurate pics, like they did with the Rebel Commandos!!!

I also want to see a pallette swapped Death Squad Commander!! Like the vintage version!! After all they are different than the the Death Star Troopers!!

Rune_Haako
07-13-2006, 06:43 PM
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I hope they use a completely new head scumpt for the Death Star Trooper!! I did not once see a Jango Clone as one of them!!! They better use accurate pics, like they did with the Rebel Commandos!!!

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I hope they use Joe Johnston's head cause he played one in ANH.

Toonimator
07-13-2006, 07:12 PM
I hope they use a completely new head scumpt for the Death Star Trooper!! I did not once see a Jango Clone as one of them!!! They better use accurate pics, like they did with the Rebel Commandos!!!

I also want to see a pallette swapped Death Squad Commander!! Like the vintage version!! After all they are different than the the Death Star Troopers!!


Pallette-swapped? And how's the Death Squad Commander different from the Death Star Trooper? In movie-terms, not Kenner's gray-uniformed-with-rank-badge vs. black-no-badge. I've never seen anyone make a distinction; in fact, most folks seem to want a VTSC Death Squad Commander specifically so we'll get a new Death Star Trooper that's almost guaranteed to be SA, even if it's not billed as a Death Star Trooper. The vintage card photo sure looks DSTrooper-like, but with a headset comlink & cord, similar to the Millenium Falcon Gunner variant of the Endor Trooper.