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Sublevel
07-17-2013, 03:48 PM
Well, I was mocked for suggesting this in another thread, but it seems it really could be a reality. This will look AMAZING and I'm really looking forward to seeing the box!:grin:

Link (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/SDCC_Gentle_Giant_Booth_153206.asp)

http://www.rebelscum.com/2013/gentle_giant_ltd_sddc_wampa_jumbo_kenner_figure_1. jpg
http://www.rebelscum.com/2013/gentle_giant_ltd_sddc_wampa_jumbo_kenner_figure_2. jpg

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
07-17-2013, 03:53 PM
Very cool :)

SexxyDrummerBoy1
07-17-2013, 03:56 PM
WAMPA! WAMPA! WAMPA!

GKinCT
07-17-2013, 04:01 PM
I won't be getting one, but it's a pretty neat looking piece.

SoonerSean
07-17-2013, 04:27 PM
I've only purchased the R2 jumbo figure... but those Hoth figures look great. I have a cabinet with Hoth items and will probably not be able to resist the urge to add those.

GNT
07-17-2013, 04:54 PM
Where am I going to find the room to display that one? :p

Looks neat but my shelves aren't that high.

AaylaSecurasMan
07-17-2013, 05:03 PM
Nice but easy pass for me.

BillMulder
07-17-2013, 05:14 PM
Space is getting to be an issue but that Wampa is pretty great looking.

JediEddy
07-17-2013, 05:34 PM
Double the size figure, I'm thinking double the price? Looks great, will have to purchase. Have every one released so far, so why stop now!

Tweekem
07-17-2013, 05:49 PM
I agree with you Eddy... its like Star Wars crack to me... Ive been drawn to this line from the first day.. I figure if I get em all.. no way in the world will I be able to display them all at once carded... so you change it up seasonally/holidays!!! Hoth in winter... aliens n such for haloween.. kinda give you a reason to "Play" with your collection room n keep it fresh. The line has its issues yea.. but I personally love it.

DarthBeek
07-17-2013, 06:02 PM
Scale looks a bit "off" don't ya think? Compared to his fellow Jumbos.

BlueSnaggletooth
07-17-2013, 06:15 PM
I will be getting one of these for sure.

-Snags

Cosmic_Cow
07-17-2013, 07:15 PM
I'm still holding out for a Tauntaun.

Turbowars
07-17-2013, 07:47 PM
I'll be getting these Hoth figures. The wampa is super cool.

justabigkid
07-17-2013, 07:51 PM
WOW...... The price might scare me off.

Shabby_Blue
07-17-2013, 08:00 PM
Probably be $160-200.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
07-17-2013, 08:16 PM
Scale looks a bit "off" don't ya think? Compared to his fellow Jumbos.

This Wampa is bigger compared to the 12" figures then the old one was to the 3 3/4" but this is a better representation scale wise :)

Red_Threepio
07-17-2013, 08:22 PM
This is so different than a carded figure, how do you think it will be packaged?

captainsolo
07-17-2013, 08:25 PM
count me in. No need to stop now.

Rhymenoceros
07-17-2013, 08:26 PM
Amazing. I'm in 100%!

ramy
07-17-2013, 08:51 PM
Very nice. I will get one if it isn't too much.

sinkie
07-17-2013, 09:09 PM
Wow! Didn't think they'd go there so soon but I like it! Guess it makes sense if they're doing the other Hoth figures. What does that leave now, Leia, Soldier and Commander? Oh and the AT-AT driver and Taun taun. Oh nuts, and 2-1b and FX-7! More than I thought!

Jawa_number_7
07-17-2013, 10:14 PM
Oh yeah, gotta have this.

This is so different than a carded figure, how do you think it will be packaged?
That's an interesting point. As is the notion that this is a precedent that'll lead to other beasts.

Wonder if he'll have the spring-loaded arm feature.

Christian_Slade
07-17-2013, 11:14 PM
That is beautiful! So getting one of these.

AussieFortuna
07-18-2013, 12:58 AM
Man this is awesome, im all over this, have no idea where in going to display it lol, but i love it, Wampa has always been one of my favs.
Well done GG, imo youve kicked a goal with this guy.

Sublevel
07-18-2013, 03:47 AM
This is so different than a carded figure, how do you think it will be packaged?

I think it will be boxed, like the original. It will be a BIG display piece that's for sure, and one I'll make room for. I'm pretty sure the Tauntaun will appear somewhere down the line, and possibly a Dewback. Rancor might be a bit too far though...;)

Mighty_Jabba
07-18-2013, 09:12 AM
Please make a Jabba! Please make a Jabba! Please make a Jabba! :D

AussieFortuna
07-18-2013, 09:23 AM
Anybody like to take a guess when this one will be up for grabs? next year or this year?

Sublevel
07-18-2013, 09:29 AM
Anybody like to take a guess when this one will be up for grabs? next year or this year?

I think it'll be 1st or 2nd Quarter next year. Just praying it will definitely be boxed!

OCWanKenobi
07-18-2013, 09:51 AM
1) awesome live

2) i love hoth

3) price?

4) packaging?

5) with this and the life sized stormtrooper, are dreams of jumbo vehicles coming out way?

sinkie
07-18-2013, 12:37 PM
A life size jumbo dewback for the stormtrooper?

Red_Threepio
07-18-2013, 03:51 PM
A life size jumbo dewback for the stormtrooper?
Oooh :awesome:, motorized so I could ride it to work!

WampaVsRancor
07-20-2013, 12:13 PM
I am ALL over this. I can see myself picking up the entire Hoth line and making a nice display of them. WIN.

Kaneda_01
07-20-2013, 12:52 PM
I guess... I'm all in... after seeing the 24" Kenner Alien Jumbo and this Wampa... along with this years SDCC Yak Face... might as well get all the ESB jumbo releases as well. Looks like it will be an expensive year between walking dead, Star Wars Jumbo and life-size Jumbo releases... etc. :O)

Jedi534
07-20-2013, 01:00 PM
I guess... I'm all in... after seeing the 24" Kenner Alien Jumbo and this Wampa... along with this years SDCC Yak Face... might as well get all the ESB jumbo releases as well. Looks like it will be an expensive year between walking dead, Star Wars Jumbo and life-size Jumbo releases... etc. :O)

24" Kenner Alien Jumbo??????? :wtf:

Kaneda_01
07-20-2013, 01:06 PM
Yessss! Keeping my figures crossed for future potential releases such as a Jumbo Indy line of figures, etc... :O)

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/SDCC_2013_Gentle_Giant_Ltd_Wed-078.jpg

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/SDCC_2013_Gentle_Giant_Ltd_Wed-082.jpg

Nipshank
07-20-2013, 01:11 PM
Getting bigger and bigger for the 12" line, wouldn't be surprised to see the Rancor pop up soon enough. The Wampa is sweet and I'd be grabbing a Rancor if it was up as well.

ddoughboy1978
07-20-2013, 01:34 PM
Im excited for these larger figures, hopefully shipping will not be a nightmare for these larger figures.... it like gambling just to get these out without getting their bubbles damaged!

Nipshank
07-20-2013, 01:53 PM
They'll be boxed in vintage style I'm sure and everything is expensive ***** for shipping with GG. I almost bought the Padme statue but 65 shipping was too much on a 250 buck statue.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
07-20-2013, 02:24 PM
Getting bigger and bigger for the 12" line, wouldn't be surprised to see the Rancor pop up soon enough. The Wampa is sweet and I'd be grabbing a Rancor if it was up as well.

I would love a huge Rancor but it would be about 30" tall :) Somehow I would find the room ;)

Red_Threepio
07-20-2013, 02:29 PM
If they're producing Wampas, Jabba can't be far behind.
http://www.rebelscum.com/vintage/tempVjabba.jpg

Mighty_Jabba
07-20-2013, 06:44 PM
With the throne, of course!

jimmii
07-20-2013, 10:38 PM
Or, you could hold out for the lifesize Jabba! How sweet would that look in the man cave!?!?!

If they're producing Wampas, Jabba can't be far behind.
http://www.rebelscum.com/vintage/tempVjabba.jpg

DefSith
07-21-2013, 12:34 AM
Love the jumbo Wampa.. Hope the come boxed like the original esb packaging...

Otter
08-06-2013, 05:34 AM
I've managed to resist the jumbo line so far but the wampa is very tempting. I'm thinking I'll have to get Hoth Luke just in case they make a tauntaun. A jumbo tauntaun would be a definite purchase for me.

Jetson
08-09-2013, 07:19 PM
I can't wait to get the jumbo Wampa!

Shabby_Blue
08-10-2013, 01:02 PM
I can't wait to get the jumbo Wampa!

I just dread the price of him. Probably be in the $200 range. Also very curious about the packaging design. Will it be a cardboard box like the real vintage one, or an originally designed oversized blister card?

AussieFortuna
08-10-2013, 01:22 PM
I just dread the price of him. Probably be in the $200 range. Also very curious about the packaging design. Will it be a cardboard box like the real vintage one, or an originally designed oversized blister card?

Im hoping it wont be more than half the price of a standard jumbo, any higher will be a bit of a rip off imo.
And im hoping it will come boxed.

Shabby_Blue
08-10-2013, 03:53 PM
Im hoping it wont be more than half the price of a standard jumbo, any higher will be a bit of a rip off imo.
And im hoping it will come boxed.

I agree. If a standard figure is around $80, then the Wampa SHOULD be priced around $160. But it wouldn't surprise me if GG tries to push it closer to $200, using the unique larger packaging as justification (if it comes in a large vintage-style box). The Cantina cardboard diorama had no reason to be priced at $80, and yet it was. :(

Turbowars
08-10-2013, 03:59 PM
The price of a regular figure is a complete rip off.
Im hoping it wont be more than half the price of a standard jumbo, any higher will be a bit of a rip off imo.
And im hoping it will come boxed.

AussieFortuna
08-11-2013, 01:40 AM
The price of a regular figure is a complete rip off.

Totally agree, i think the normal jumbo is at least $20 over priced, thats why if this wampas over $160 it will be a bad look for GG, i cant see how a jumbo wampa is worth anything more than $120 to be honest, but taking into account they will try and get every last sent out of us, $160 should be the price, lol, lets hope anyway.

UTINI
10-02-2013, 04:10 PM
$400!! LMAO!! GG lost their minds.

If you pre-order from them by 10/14 you get a free Hoth Luke. With shipping that is $415. I'd rather get another Premium Format or Mythos for slightly less than that. Or a 12" all metal C-3PO. A hollow vinyl figure isn't worth $400 even with the free Luke.

AaylaSecurasMan
10-02-2013, 04:13 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/3471/medium/Wampa19.jpg

EddieU
10-02-2013, 04:33 PM
o-o $400 USD is the kind of insane that's so ludicrous, I can't even get mad at it! Even subtracting the "free" Luke, which would go for $80-85, you're left with a 22" hollow figure for $315 bucks. Although of course the 31" Jakks Pacific Vader out at retail right now doesn't hold as much appeal as an actual Kenner design (for most of us), it goes for $29.99 or whatever at Walmart...and it's 9" larger!! I'll be just fine with my wee little Kenner Wampa, thanks.

GG Wampa with "free" Luke (http://www.gentlegiantltd.com/product_p/80366WL.htm)

MrPickles
10-02-2013, 04:43 PM
$400??!! WTF...they have out-ridiculous-ed themselves AGAIN!

I was MAYBE willing to go as high as $180-$200, but not DOUBLE that.

x5 the price ($80) of an average 12" figure....lmfao.

They won't sell even 500 of these now. Wonder if they'll struggle to reach 300...

Silly, silly GG.....tricks are for hoes.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-02-2013, 04:49 PM
I too was figuring these would be around $150-$180 tops! I should have learned my lesson with all GGs prices in the past but Iam a slow learner ;)

WampaVsRancor
10-02-2013, 04:59 PM
I am completely blown away by the price of this. Eff that. I would have been totally willing to pay $200-250, but $400?!?! GG has officially lost their collective minds. I am OUT.

falcon1975
10-02-2013, 05:17 PM
I'm definitely out....

Mighty_Jabba
10-02-2013, 05:20 PM
Yeah, I just can't get my head around this pricing. The wampa is big, but that's basically it. It's not like there's an intricate paint job or cloth outfit to worry about, as with some statues or PFs. Someone at the Sideshow Freaks forums pointed out that you could likely get very nice MIB examples of the actual vintage figures for less than this.

Dutchskywalker
10-02-2013, 06:10 PM
Seems to me GG is counting on that this will be an slow seller and adjusts its price to that, idiots.

sinkie
10-02-2013, 06:16 PM
Well this just sucks.

jedimasterc
10-02-2013, 06:37 PM
Sorry GG, You won't get my money for this. Really a let down.

ddoughboy1978
10-02-2013, 06:39 PM
just saw this on facebook and I had to take a double take the price! Way overpriced, I like it but I dont like it for 400, Id rather spend the cash on a Malgus PF first.... drop it to 200 and Id actually take an honest look at getting it

DarthMickeyMoose
10-02-2013, 06:46 PM
Oh but what you are all forgetting is that this will be a limited edition and the cost of making these is very high for just a small amount of figures for a small market. Blah Blah Blah! What a bunch of BS again. Just wait and buy them when they show up loose for $50.00 from China ebay sellers. Just like the 350+ loose brown snake(limited edition-ha-ha) and orange snake Jumbo Yodas that were sold with no explanation ever from GG! :disgusted:

Shabby_Blue
10-02-2013, 07:06 PM
Sadly, I'll be passing on this too. I would have cringed at anything above $200, but $400 is completely ridiculous for such a simple sculpt/paint job. The thing is, if or when Sideshow produces a 1/6 scale Wampa, I bet it will be under $400 for a figure with a more detailed sculpt and paintjob and more articulation. This figure should have been in the $200-225 range TOPS.

Producing such a limited run and then using that as an excuse to jack up the price is just stupid when there were many more of us willing to buy it at the $180-200 price range it should have been. Considering it's a PRE-ORDER, why didn't they just set a more reasonable price and then base the production run on how many pre-orders they got (which reflects actual demand) instead of making an assumption that so few people would want it and then limiting their production (and excluding many potential consumers) with such a ridiculously high price? The GG pre-orders are often 6-9 months ahead of actual release dates, so they would have still had plenty of time to plan the production run to meet the demand of pre-orders.

Glitch
10-02-2013, 07:32 PM
GG has lost their mind. With interest starting to waiver on this line, I think they may have just kicked a crap load of customers off the boat sooner than they expected.

Personally, I'm pretty much bored with this line at this point. After the first 12, it just isn't doing it for me anymore, but $400 for a roto-cast vinyl Wampa....?


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TzkH7pJ68IY/UVOciqRHr_I/AAAAAAAAPLc/YS_hSvaPZH4/s400/colbert-craziest-fn-thing-ive-ever-heard.jpg

Shabby_Blue
10-02-2013, 08:05 PM
Guess we can forget about ever getting a Tauntaun, Dewback, or Speederbike at reasonable prices too. A landspeeder from them would probably be $1000. Meanwhile Sideshow's highly detailed 1/6 scale 1989 Batmobile is priced at $629.99.

DarthPhlegethon
10-02-2013, 09:38 PM
I am so totally in for this. :rolleyes:

This line is obviously a huge money-maker for GG, and as we all know, our little community represents a very small percentage of the customer base. It will be very interesting--and informative--to see if this sells out and how long it takes. I actually think it will sell out.

Shabby_Blue
10-02-2013, 10:02 PM
Disappointed the pre-order page doesn't show the Wampa's packaging.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-02-2013, 10:31 PM
I am so totally in for this. :rolleyes:

This line is obviously a huge money-maker for GG, and as we all know, our little community represents a very small percentage of the customer base. It will be very interesting--and informative--to see if this sells out and how long it takes. I actually think it will sell out.

The only way this sells out is if......A- They only make 50 of them or B- They lower the price by more then half.

MZimmerman
10-02-2013, 10:54 PM
I'm in as well, and just placed my order. PGM pricing, free shipping, $22 in rewards points redeemed, and a Luke I'll sell puts this around $250 for me. Keeping in mind this is going to come packaged in a vintage Wampa box--easy decision to buy it.

AussieFortuna
10-02-2013, 11:37 PM
Ridiculous price, i was really looking forward to this, but im out, this is just price gouging at its finest, $400 for a bit of hollow vinyl, they have to be kidding, no doubt GG will think of some dribble to explain it.
I give them praise when its due and criticism when its due, nows the time for the latter, GG might have lost me for good with this one.

BlueSnaggletooth
10-03-2013, 01:34 AM
Not too keen on paying $400 for a new collectible without an edition size. Real vintage Kenner stuff is a different story.

-Snags

xphillips
10-03-2013, 06:26 AM
Well stated by a GG employee...
Kidding... :)



I am so totally in for this. :rolleyes:

This line is obviously a huge money-maker for GG, and as we all know, our little community represents a very small percentage of the customer base. It will be very interesting--and informative--to see if this sells out and how long it takes. I actually think it will sell out.

Mechleader
10-03-2013, 07:11 AM
Wow so glad I don't collect this line!!

sinkie
10-03-2013, 07:22 AM
So will there be a different price once the Hoth Luke offer expires? That is if there are any left...

vader2001
10-03-2013, 07:34 AM
I am also very glad I do not collect this line. $400 bones for this is totally ridiculous! Hopefully they would include the PGM for next year and the following year.

gijigsaw
10-03-2013, 08:04 AM
Price is steep. I signed into my account and there was a $40 discount - PGM membership I assume. $360 - $80 (Hoth Luke) - Wampa runs around $280 if I take advantage. About what a Hot Toys (Iron Man, Hulk) or Enterbay (Michael Jordan) premium toy runs about these days. Of course, those sculpts and articulation are much different. Those also seem to increase in value over time.

Tough one to decide if I try to rationalize the above math. TaunTaun I would do. Wampa - was never a big fan, just think its cool for the scale. Ugh!

Nipshank
10-03-2013, 09:32 AM
I'm out, whats the rancor gonna cost, 1k?
Ill buy the 12" Emperor once he's out but beyond that this line is no longer gonna be part of the collection.

gijigsaw
10-03-2013, 09:45 AM
Rancor - that would be bad ***, but yeah, 1K at least.

What's the biggest set ever - Millenium Falcon? Naboo starship? Death Star? AT-AT? Fun to imagine...until your wallet says no.

Mighty_Jabba
10-03-2013, 09:59 AM
I'll have to say, though, that I would pay $400 for a Jabba. More if they included the full throne set with Salacious Crumb.

sotoam
10-03-2013, 10:11 AM
I was interested in getting this until I saw the price. WOW! $400??? Are they taking advice from Sideshow when they come up with prices on the 12" stuff?

AussieFortuna
10-03-2013, 10:13 AM
Maybe instead of packing peanuts the will use rare Tasmanian black pearls to pack it with, that could explain the price.....

Mighty_Jabba
10-03-2013, 10:31 AM
I was interested in getting this until I saw the price. WOW! $400??? Are they taking advice from Sideshow when they come up with prices on the 12" stuff?
Ironically, I think a theoretical Sideshow version might actually be cheaper. Especially since they would probably just make it a polystone statue like the dewback and tauntaun rather than put in the engineering required to actually make it a posable figure.

MasterX
10-03-2013, 11:52 AM
Wow... $400 for a Wampa. HELL NO! The JUMBO figures are nice because you can really cover your walls and as a decoration, as they are very appealing carded... unique. What exactly do you do with a giant $400 Wampa in a Giant Vintage Box anyways? I would have bought it if you got the Wampa and Luke for half that price... $200. For $400.... I will spend that money on a couple of Hot Toys 1/6 figures.... probably the new Wolverine and maybe another figure...

X



Rancor - that would be bad ***, but yeah, 1K at least.

What's the biggest set ever - Millenium Falcon? Naboo starship? Death Star? AT-AT? Fun to imagine...until your wallet says no.

kingbrat
10-03-2013, 11:53 AM
I expected nothing less from the Rebelscum Licensee of the year. Greed knows no bounds with them.

UTINI
10-03-2013, 12:18 PM
I am not ordering this. I'd consider getting it when they have their blowout sales. Even at half off, it's what you'd expect it to cost. Not really a deal then either.

Anyone buying with plans to sell the Luke is going to be in for a rude awakening when many other people do it. You'll have all those Lukes on the market in addition to the ones from re-sellers who always price it below MSRP. Luckily their retailers enjoy the battle to the bottom with pricing.

MZimmerman
10-03-2013, 01:47 PM
I get the frustration. Do keep in mind though a few things: the Wampa doesn't cost $400. The Wampa and the Luke cost $400. Also, PGM members get a discounted price. I think when pics of this thing boxed start to surface, some of those on the fence will jump. But, to each his own.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-03-2013, 02:07 PM
I get the frustration. Do keep in mind though a few things: the Wampa doesn't cost $400. The Wampa and the Luke cost $400. Also, PGM members get a discounted price. I think when pics of this thing boxed start to surface, some of those on the fence will jump. But, to each his own.

You are wrong, the Wampa DOES cost $400. The Luke is a "free" promotion running until the 14th. As of now I don't see ANYONE on the fence on this. People are either trying to rationalize the purchase like you and 1 or 2 others are doing or the rest of GG customers are outraged by the pricing on this.

GGC
10-03-2013, 02:43 PM
Nobody here must collect Hot Toys :)

WampaVsRancor
10-03-2013, 03:29 PM
You are wrong, the Wampa DOES cost $400. The Luke is a "free" promotion running until the 14th. As of now I don't see ANYONE on the fence on this. People are either trying to rationalize the purchase like you and 1 or 2 others are doing or the rest of GG customers are outraged by the pricing on this.

Exactly. No matter how you try to justify it, the Wampa is $200 more than it should be. Period. To the folks who say "well, I'll just sell the Luke to make it cheaper, now you're having to deal with selling it (and you will NOT get $80 if that's what you're thinking, try $50-$60 tops), packing it, making a trip to UPS or what-have-you, etc. Have fun jumping through hoops to try to get your Wampa for closer to what it should have been in the first place. Even if it were $200, it is still ridiculously overpriced for what it is, a hollow piece of plastic. Imagine if toy companies charged prices like this?! This line is no different from any other toy out there, they are hollow plastic with not much in the way of paint apps or sculpts.

I guess that jumbo Kenner Alien is gonna come in around $600 now. Unfreakingreal.

WampaVsRancor
10-03-2013, 03:35 PM
Nobody here must collect Hot Toys :)


Seriously Mark, why do you keep bringing up Hot Toys? We know you're very proud of your Hot Toys collection, but one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. I've owned a few Hot Toys figs myself as well, and they were half the price of the Wampa, with amazing sculpts, articulation and accessories. This, as I said, is a crappy piece of hollow plastic. This is gouging, plain and freaking simple.

That's like saying "Nobody here must collect the Sideshow life-sized busts."

GGC
10-03-2013, 03:55 PM
Seriously Mark, why do you keep bringing up Hot Toys? We know you're very proud of your Hot Toys collection, but one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. I've owned a few Hot Toys figs myself as well, and they were half the price of the Wampa, with amazing sculpts, articulation and accessories. This, as I said, is a crappy piece of hollow plastic. This is gouging, plain and freaking simple.

That's like saying "Nobody here must collect the Sideshow life-sized busts."

I brought them up because they are also smaller figures with very high price tags like these and the bigger the fig gets, the higher the cost. No comparison to SSC Life Size.

The Hot Toys Hulk figure (which is about the size of the Wampa) was almost $400. Others (12") in the Hot Toys like sell for $500 and up. 99% of all the Hot Toys figures are overpriced if you ask me, but I like them so I buy them. Catwoman (who is the size of a Barbie and has minimal accessories) goes for the same $220 as say Sgt Barnes from Platoon who has like 75 accessories and a larger figure. It’s just the nature of collecting.

The price of this is a steep, I agree with everyone here on that, but after the discount (if PGM) and the Luke, it's around $280. I figured this guy would be around $200-$300, and with this offer, it puts him in the high end of that range.

I've read the comments here, on FB and other boards and I find it funny people think they have a right to name the price for something they are not selling or demand a discount or price cut. If you don’t like the price, don’t buy it. Simple as that.

Imagine you make a bookshelf and decide you want to sell it for $400 because you feel that’s a fair price for the labor, materials, research, etc.., you didn’t spend $400 to build it, maybe $50 but you feel it’s worth $400 and list it for such. Now you get total strangers telling you that you can’t do that, it’s not worth it, you are “screwing” the bookshelf collectors.

None of us here (unless someone works for GG) know how much time, effort and tooling go into any collectible. So making assumptions as to what it “should” cost mean nothing.

And before I get all the negative comments (which I am sure I will) and people calling me a GG Cheerleader or that I am drinking GG Kool Aid. Everything I said above can be said for any line, for any company and it’s true. Anybody and any company can charge whatever they want for a product. And sure people can complain and speak out, that’s what forums are for.

In my opinion - It's obvious he wasn't made for the masses like the others, he will be a lower run I'm sure and meant to be a collectible, and a rare one at that. You think GG didn’t discuss the pricing and think people would think it was high? Of course they did. You think they decided to “money grab” or "gouge" on a single item for the hell of it? Of course not. This was the price they felt they needed to sell it for to make it worth making. Look at what they make and what they do, they are a multi-million dollar company that does so much, you really think they need to make and extra $100 on the 400-500 or so of these they may make? Collectors seem to always forget there is a business behind these items.

And the nasty replies will start in 3....2....

UTINI
10-03-2013, 03:57 PM
When did they add free shipping? It's like watching a desperate infomercial. "If you order now, we will throw in a Hoth Luke. And that's not it! We'll also ship it to you for free!"

But infomercials usually double your order or add a few more things. Let's see what else GG can throw in.

xphillips
10-03-2013, 04:01 PM
Dear Gentle Giant,
We are collectors. Most of us are outraged by this price. Some will probably purchase and justify their purchase because they are in love with the line or the nastalga of the vintage Kenner figures makes some of us do crazy things and purchase expensive items. However, I think it is disturbing that you would lie to us as say the Hoth Luke is "free" ... no, that's a poor joke and an infurating insult to your collectors. Will you be selling the Wampa at $400 by itself after the promotion ends... hahaha... I think not. As mentioned by many, there are other collectibles that require far more money to make and cost less. Many of us on these forums and in the collecting community know and understand the price to make figures has increased, but once again I say this is a disappointing price. Please do the right thing... change the price to a more rational, reasonable, appropriate, non-flipper, price. Don't hide behind your computer screen and read all these messages and pretend you don't read these 10 pages of posts that chronicle outrage. We all love the product... we all (mostly) despise the price.

Andy
10-03-2013, 04:28 PM
Collector psychology is an interesting thing. When I feel like a licensee pulls something insulting to its customers, the feeling of ill will almost makes me want to purge my existing pieces and get out of the line, rather than continue to fill in the gaps. Almost like, if any company regards its customers with such disdain, then they sacrifice my loyalty.

anyone else feel like they peed in the pool a bit?

ramy
10-03-2013, 04:58 PM
Heck no! I am not paying that much.

WampaVsRancor
10-03-2013, 05:06 PM
Come on Mark. That is a load of crap. This is a cheap, plastic toy. I've owned a few of these, I know exactly what they are. We all do. Are they neat? Sure. But they are still a cheap piece of plastic.

And give me me a break about the "gouging on one particular item". GG prices have skyrocketed across the board. Maybe you haven't noticed because you've had quite a bit of your collection donated to you by GG, but in the past year their prices have quickly risen on ALL their stuff. The Pale Man statue I got last year for $225 finally got his companion this year when they released the Faun, only trouble was it cost me $400 for a statue that is the same size.

But I'll play the devil's advocate. Perhaps the folks over there at GG headquarters had the idea to do the Wampa, did their R & D and found out to do the Wampa they would end up having to charge $400 to make a profit. Ya think maybe one of them would have had the brains to say "Ya know what guys and gals? I don't think it's worth doing the Wampa if that's what we have to charge, because we're gonna **** off way more people than we're gonna please." But then the other guys just said "Nah, screw em. They still buy our stuff after everything else we've pulled. Let's do it."

Sorry, it's crap, I don't care how to you justify it yourself. There's just no way to justify spending that much money on this thing. I could never justify spending that much on something that is of lesser quality than anything sitting on the toy shelf in Walmart.

justabigkid
10-03-2013, 05:08 PM
When I got the email about the Wampa and saw how much they want for it I initially laughed out loud. After a thinking about it it REALLY pissed me off. I have all the figures in the line to date but this price gouging makes me want to toss in the towel. The prices seem to be slowly but surely increasing for the line and now this........ There is NO WAY a $400 price tag for this figure can be justified. G.G. can charge what the want BUT as a consumer I can and will choose to find something of better value to purchase.

Weren't there rumors of a Tauntaun? Could you imagine how much G.G. would charge for that?

I find it all rather sad but funny at the same time.

Red_Threepio
10-03-2013, 05:11 PM
How much does 3D printer cost?

BillMulder
10-03-2013, 05:13 PM
You think GG didn’t discuss the pricing and think people would think it was high? Of course they did. You think they decided to “money grab” or "gouge" on a single item for the hell of it? Of course not. This was the price they felt they needed to sell it for to make it worth making.

Absolutely. I expected the Wampa to be $200 or maybe $250 at most but for someone outside of the company to decide what it should cost is ridiculous. With a $400 price tag, they're cutting out a lot of potential sales and they're also going to get hammered by collectors that are mad about the massive price so it's not like they decided on $400 to make people angry- it was an unfortunate business reality.

justabigkid
10-03-2013, 05:22 PM
So if G.G. scaled up the 12"jumbo figures which sell for $80 to 24" jumbo figures we should expect to pay $400? I could (maybe)understand $200 + shipping but that's it........you could keep the Hoth Luke.

xphillips
10-03-2013, 05:25 PM
I'm going to post this again... just because... because I CAN! :hmm:

Dear Gentle Giant,
We are collectors. Most of us are outraged by this price. Some will probably purchase and justify their purchase because they are in love with the line or the nostalgia of the vintage Kenner figures makes some of us do crazy things and purchase expensive items. However, I think it is disturbing that you would lie to us as say the Hoth Luke is "free" ... no, that's a poor joke and an infuriating insult to your collectors. Will you be selling the Wampa at $400 by itself after the promotion ends... hahaha... I think not. As mentioned by many, there are other collectibles that require far more money to make and cost less. Many of us on these forums and in the collecting community know and understand the price to make figures has increased, but once again I say this is a disappointing price. Please do the right thing... change the price to a more rational, reasonable, appropriate, non-flipper, price. Don't hide behind your computer screen and read all these messages and pretend you don't read these 10 pages of posts that chronicle outrage. We all love the product... we all (mostly) despise the price.

MZimmerman
10-03-2013, 05:46 PM
Exactly. No matter how you try to justify it, the Wampa is $200 more than it should be. Period. To the folks who say "well, I'll just sell the Luke to make it cheaper, now you're having to deal with selling it (and you will NOT get $80 if that's what you're thinking, try $50-$60 tops), packing it, making a trip to UPS or what-have-you, etc. Have fun jumping through hoops to try to get your Wampa for closer to what it should have been in the first place. Even if it were $200, it is still ridiculously overpriced for what it is, a hollow piece of plastic. Imagine if toy companies charged prices like this?! This line is no different from any other toy out there, they are hollow plastic with not much in the way of paint apps or sculpts.

I guess that jumbo Kenner Alien is gonna come in around $600 now. Unfreakingreal.

For those who look at this and see a hollow piece of plastic, then sure, it probably isn't worth the price GG is asking. However, the popularity and sales of this line extend far beyond the plastic that they are made of, and that is what drives the price.

Tweekem
10-03-2013, 07:11 PM
NO WAY.. no friggin way.
this is a slap in da nuts.

J2fold
10-03-2013, 07:16 PM
Lol, thank god I never wanted the Wampa in the first place. My guess is GG priced it so high is because they know a few people will buy it which will result in less production costs, less overhead. GG will guess on how many to produce and if they make too many and have some left over they will have a 40% off sale selling off the remaining. This Wampa should of been no more than $140. They could of added the Luke to get people to buy two at once and sold it for less then $200 People would of bought the Luke just to get the Wampa. To be honest GG must have a third party as an investor who gets paid and who will eat the costs if GG is left with a bunch of these if they don't sell. The buyer pays extra for these as insurance to the investor. It's all about the middle man getting paid to do nothing with a small risk of default.

captainsolo
10-03-2013, 08:35 PM
Some things never change, as soon as I start to give GG credit, they do something stupid or er................normal for them

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-03-2013, 08:54 PM
I love vintage and hence I love the line. That doesn't change the fact that this is a cheap piece of hollow plastic. Hasbro recently released 12" figures with articulation like the vintage line. These figures sold for $9.99 at Target!!!! These were original figures that required sculpting, tooling etc etc and they still cost $9.99!! GG releases 12" figures in cheaper plastic and charges $80! I understand it's a business and they had to pay for the license but going over the $80 would be ridiculous and charging $400 for an 18", cheap hollow plastic is a slap in the face, ridiculous price gouging!

MZimmerman
10-03-2013, 09:05 PM
There's many of us on this forum with many, many "cheap pieces of plastic" that others would gladly pay thousands of dollars for. Material costs are only one aspect, and with this line--an aspect vastly overlooked by its supporters.

Shabby_Blue
10-03-2013, 09:19 PM
Nobody here must collect Hot Toys :)

Of course we collect Hot Toys. It's exactly why so many here are infuriated with the price of the Wampa. The Wampa doesn't even come close to comparing to the quality of sculpt/detail/articulation that any Hot Toys figure offers, and yet it's being priced in the same range (or above) most Hot Toys figures.

DarthPhlegethon
10-03-2013, 09:21 PM
I was obviously being sarcastic when I said I was in. I stopped collecting this line after a couple of pieces because, to me, the value wasn't there, and they take up a fair amount of space I'd rather use on busts and statues.

I do think this will sell out. Many people will see the low edition size and buy to scalp or to have something rare. Some obviously want it, and more power to them. It is easier to swallow for those folks if they sell the Luke and have reward points to use. I didn't think the Spider Maul would sell out at $400, but it did.

As far as the price, yes, it is ridiculous. But prices on everything from collectibles to a bag of Sour Cream and Cheddar Baked Ruffles Potato Chips keep going up. Mini-busts are much higher, basic Hasbro figures are $10 a pop now, normal SS PFs are well over $400 with shipping, etc. The economy still sucks and that makes it rough on most of us, but those who can afford it are still paying the higher prices. This is how we end up with a $400 hollow, vinyl Wampa.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-03-2013, 09:24 PM
There's many of us on this forum with many, many "cheap pieces of plastic" that others would gladly pay thousands of dollars for. Material costs are only one aspect, and with this line--an aspect vastly overlooked by its supporters.

I don't know what's worse, comparing these to hot toys and sideshow or comparing them to original vintage items no longer produced and much more rare????

MZimmerman
10-03-2013, 09:26 PM
I don't know what's worse, comparing these to hot toys and sideshow or comparing them to original vintage items no longer produced and much more rare????
I'm comparing the principle. And I will venture a guess production numbers on this Wampa will be less than the pool of sealed 12 backs in the marketplace.

JediJones77
10-04-2013, 06:31 AM
$359.10 with free shipping. Subtract $87.88 for Luke. The page says we'll earn 479 points so that's equivalent to $24 to put towards a future purchase. That puts the cost of the Wampa at $247.22. I would have been comfortable with $200, since I think the original Wampa cost 2.5 times what an original Kenner figure cost at retail. But the extra $47 isn't enough to make me bail on keeping the collection complete, so I ordered.

Rock
10-04-2013, 06:55 AM
Really cool but way too expensive for me.

gijigsaw
10-04-2013, 07:23 AM
I remember when Sideshow first released their 12" Star Wars - they were about $45 a piece. Now they start around $150...crawling to the $200 mark (GI Joe). Those figures have a lot more detail/parts/articulation than the Vintage Kenner Jumbos. Even if it is hollow plastic, the molds and dies still have to be made. Have no idea what that costs, and the Wampa machinery would be huge.

Would be nice for someone with the manufacturing experience to shed some light on total product lifecycle.

Of course, every business needs to make a profit to stay in business, but seems we reached the tipping point between profit and pissing off the customers who would bring that profit. But we don't know because we don't know what GG ultimately makes off a $400 Wampa. It could be $200. It could be $20 (unlikely, just making a point).

My 2 cents. Only $398.98 more for the Wampa.

Daigo_Bah
10-04-2013, 07:46 AM
It's funny, when I saw the front page news about it and clicked to see, I was thinking around $150 with an expectation to see somewhat more. When I saw $400, I literally spewed coffee. More than double what I was expecting. Wow.

kingbrat
10-04-2013, 08:34 AM
But I'll play the devil's advocate. Perhaps the folks over there at GG headquarters had the idea to do the Wampa, did their R & D and found out to do the Wampa they would end up having to charge $400 to make a profit. Ya think maybe one of them would have had the brains to say "Ya know what guys and gals? I don't think it's worth doing the Wampa if that's what we have to charge, because we're gonna **** off way more people than we're gonna please." But then the other guys just said "Nah, screw em. They still buy our stuff after everything else we've pulled. Let's do it."

Sorry, it's crap, I don't care how to you justify it yourself. There's just no way to justify spending that much money on this thing. I could never justify spending that much on something that is of lesser quality than anything sitting on the toy shelf in Walmart.

considering how full of themselves certain GG employees can be, I would not be surprised if that conversation pretty much happened that way.


what our cheerleaders seem to be ignoring in this case is that GG really didnt do diddly squat on these figures. At least Hot Toys actually does quite a bit of design work on their products. Taking a 30 year old barely articulated product and reproducing it in a larger scale doesnt exactly put a lot of stress on their creative department. Hey, its their company they can charge what they want....its our money and we have just as much right to complain about their decision. I maintain the only way these companies will know when they are out of line is when we tell them. If GG doesnt like it, tough. This site and others may give em a free pass (cuz "ZOMG they made such cool stuff this year...we'll totally ignore that they screwed over their customers a few times"), but we dont have to.

not that it matters much when dealing with a company whose customer service philosophy is summed up by saying "if you dont like the product, return it", regardless of the issue

Mighty_Jabba
10-04-2013, 09:22 AM
$359.10 with free shipping. Subtract $87.88 for Luke. The page says we'll earn 479 points so that's equivalent to $24 to put towards a future purchase. That puts the cost of the Wampa at $247.22. I would have been comfortable with $200, since I think the original Wampa cost 2.5 times what an original Kenner figure cost at retail. But the extra $47 isn't enough to make me bail on keeping the collection complete, so I ordered.
You can't take your PGM discount off of the wampa and not off of Luke. That makes him $71.95 plus shipping if purchased separately -- assuming you were going to order him in the first place. If you're planning on flipping him on ebay, you'll probably be lucky to clear $50 or $60 after fees. And I don't think deducting points directly from the purchase price makes sense. They're a nice bonus, but still require a further purchase.

And in any case, the people who said they expected the wampa to be $200 meant they were expecting a retail price of $200, not a final price of $200 after all possible discounts have been reflected.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-04-2013, 09:45 AM
This is not new for GG. They have been doing this with many of their items, just look at the life size Stormtrooper or ROTJ Fett bust. You have many people complaining about the price increases (double, triple the expected price) and a few blindly backing the items and rationalizing the prices any way they can. What people are saying about the Wampa would be like someone saying this about the Fett bust ($160): "yeah but for the $160 you get an additional arm that would have cost $25 and the amazing Boba Fett tin made just for this bust is worth $40 so it's like paying $95 for the bust and while that's still more then it should be it's only an extra $30 more so it's worth it!" NO, it still cost $160 NOT $95! The Wampa cost $400 not $270 or whatever people are trying to delude themselves into believing. In 10 days the "promotion" will end and the Wampa alone will be $400!

gijigsaw
10-04-2013, 10:08 AM
Don't like the price? Don't buy it. And use the right to protest for whatever it will do.

Don't like what the company is doing? Don't support it.

Don't like that people are "delusional" (like me) by trying to rationalize a high price? Exhibit the courtesy that they may have a different opinion and perspective and are struggling with something they would like to have, but seems a stretch, and just as mad as the price. Wonder how many of us drop $400 a month (at $10/20 a pop for different items) without batting an eye. I'm not bashing anyone here for being howling mad about the price.

Don't like the toy companies? Take the risk, start your own company and see what it takes.

Mighty_Jabba
10-04-2013, 10:34 AM
I don't think people are meaning to be insulting to the people who are still going to buy the item. If the Wampa was my favorite creature or I only collected this line and wanted a complete run, I'd buy it.

The thing is that Gentle Giant appears to be dramatically increasing the price of this particular figure compared to the rest of the line. They're the ones who came with the price point of around $80, remember. I don't think it's unreasonable to be shocked at a price that is 5 times that of the other figures in the line, even if it is bigger. Are there reasons for the increase? Probably. Maybe the tooling is very expensive, or the demand is perceived to be low (although I don't buy that -- the only reason demand will be low on this is because it's so expensive). But I've bought more complex figures (more articulation, more paint ops) for literally 1/10th the price.

Businesses exist to make a profit, so there's nothing wrong with trying maximize profits per se, but there's a line after which you start pissing off your customers, which will backfire in the long run as people decide maybe they don't need to be collecting the line after all.

MZimmerman
10-04-2013, 10:39 AM
The handful of frustrated collectors in this thread represent a very small demo of the overall GG-purchasing population. The Wampa will sell out.

POTAFAN
10-04-2013, 11:35 AM
What gets me is that when the original figures rolled out and I complained to GG about the inaccurate sizes of the oversized figures, they replied saying that the reason for it was related to production and manufacturing limitations. That was their excuse for making Princess Leia 1.25 inches taller and Chewbacca and Darth Vader a half inch smaller than they were actually supposed to be. They certainly didn't have any trouble making a 22 inch Wampa. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but personally I would have preferred if they would have made the original figures correctly. To that they could have added higher quality capes and weapons that really stay in their hands.


I happen to like the original Kenner version of the Wampa. If anybody here has read the Leigh Brackett version of the script for “The Empire Strikes Back”, the Wampa was originally intended to be more of a Wraith like creature composed of water vapor. To me, this version of the Wampa seems to encompass Leigh Brackett's vision because of its vague facial features. I'd love to own one of these, but I agree with those of you who feel that the price reflects the cost of Luke Skywalker and the shipping charges in the $400 price tag.

Don_Henderson
10-04-2013, 12:02 PM
Ordered, using PMG and $33 in points redemption...The cool factor on this one is high in my book. Just my $.02

Anyone know what type of Packaging we might expect for this?

MZimmerman
10-04-2013, 12:04 PM
Same packaging as the original Wampa.

AussieFortuna
10-04-2013, 12:06 PM
You can't take your PGM discount off of the wampa and not off of Luke. That makes him $71.95 plus shipping if purchased separately -- assuming you were going to order him in the first place. If you're planning on flipping him on ebay, you'll probably be lucky to clear $50 or $60 after fees. And I don't think deducting points directly from the purchase price makes sense. They're a nice bonus, but still require a further purchase.

And in any case, the people who said they expected the wampa to be $200 meant they were expecting a retail price of $200, not a final price of $200 after all possible discounts have been reflected.

Can you use your PGM discount on a pre order ? i was under the impression that you could only use it on 'in stock' items ? cheers

Mighty_Jabba
10-04-2013, 12:12 PM
Can you use your PGM discount on a pre order ? i was under the impression that you could only use it on 'in stock' items ? cheers
There is a PGM coupon that you can't use on preorders, I believe, but the normal PGM discount of 10% does apply. At least it shows up for me.

John_Solo
10-04-2013, 12:30 PM
That price is bonkers. There goes my hopes for me ever owning a Jumbo Dewback.

BillMulder
10-04-2013, 12:30 PM
The handful of frustrated collectors in this thread represent a very small demo of the overall GG-purchasing population. The Wampa will sell out.

I'm sure it'll sell out but isn't that because they base the number that they make of an item on the number of pre-orders they get? In the case of an expensive item like the Wampa, I have to imagine that the number that they make will be very close to the number of pre-orders that they receive.

DarthMickeyMoose
10-04-2013, 07:40 PM
The handful of frustrated collectors in this thread represent a very small demo of the overall GG-purchasing population. The Wampa will sell out.





Yes the Wampa may sell out. But the Jumbo Yoda's also sold out. That was Both versions. Then they magically reappeared available 6 months later.(Surprise!). Then there were 100's of both Yoda's exclusive(brown snake) and Orange snake sold loose from sellers on ebay from China.(Surprise!) Then GG took off all limited edition numbers put on previous and future GG Jumbo Star Wars figures.( Surprise!) Remember the Cantina adventure play set? It was listed as low as 200 made on there site. Then they showed up less than 1/2 price of GG, at a web site with 100+ available. Diamond Dist also had 100's available. So much for limited edition numbers and such. Also notice the Yak Face PGM gift POTF version showing up for less than the GG price on listed web sites a week after it was announced. This was suppose to be a PGM Exclusive So much for limited editions and such. So having limited editions in a limited market is good but only if everyone keeps there word. GG no longer has limited editions numbers and have proven why. So yes the Wampa may sell out and good for you and your $400.00 Bath toy that floats. I'll wait around for another surprise. :sneaky:



P.S. Could you imagine if this item was made and sold by Hasbro and was a Target Store exclusive. It would be like $50.00 and everyone would still wait for clearance

Turbowars
10-04-2013, 07:43 PM
Nobody here must collect Hot Toys :)Why would you even mention Hot toys. Big difference between high quality 1/6 scale figures and poorly made hollow things.

jedimasterc
10-04-2013, 08:16 PM
Anyone having trouble trying to pre order. Yes, I am thinking of getting this. I click on add to cart then when I got to put my password in it says only one item in cart and it won't let me check out.

SpecialOpsUnit
10-04-2013, 08:16 PM
You should feel bad if you fall for this and actually spend $400 on this.

What a complete joke and I have no interest in this line. Some Premium Format statues from SSC doesn't even fetch this much.

jedimasterc
10-04-2013, 08:21 PM
Actually you might be right.

MZimmerman
10-04-2013, 08:30 PM
You should feel bad if you fall for this and actually spend $400 on this.

What a complete joke and I have no interest in this line. Some Premium Format statues from SSC doesn't even fetch this much.

I don't understand all the hostility towards those of us who've purchased this. If the price point isn't where you'd like it, that's one thing, but to cast judgement towards fellow collectors is unnecessary.

AaylaSecurasMan
10-04-2013, 09:01 PM
You should feel bad if you fall for this and actually spend $400 on this.

What a complete joke and I have no interest in this line. Some Premium Format statues from SSC doesn't even fetch this much.

What makes you think that you can dictate to others how they should feel? All of us have a choice, if you want one you buy it, if you don't well you don't buy it, as simple as that.

I have no problem with people expressing their opinions here, that's one thing, but just plain attacking other members is simply wrong.

MZimmerman
10-04-2013, 09:15 PM
Why would you even mention Hot toys. Big difference between high quality 1/6 scale figures and poorly made hollow things.

GGC was drawing a comparison between the steady rise in price both GG and SS implemented with their respective lines. And intrinsic value plays little-to-no role in the world of collectibles. There is a market for a $400 12" scale Wampa, whether or not you like it.

Glitch
10-04-2013, 09:24 PM
I don't understand all the hostility towards those of us who've purchased this. If the price point isn't where you'd like it, that's one thing, but to cast judgement towards fellow collectors is unnecessary.

I think you're taking this too personally.

Most of us are just rolling our eyes at GG for having the Wampa nads to ask this price a cheap vinyl rotocast figure that has a simple two color paint job and isn't even an original sculpt. Do we want an original sculpt? No. But that is one less thing that adds to production costs.

Is it big? Yes. But the R&D and and manufactureing are about as simple as you can get. This is why you can find cheap, $5 dog toys at Target using the exact same manufacturing process.

Personally, I'm tired of having my love of the vintage Kenner line used against me like this.

Turbowars
10-04-2013, 09:29 PM
GGC was drawing a comparison between the steady rise in price both GG and SS implemented with their respective lines. And intrinsic value plays little-to-no role in the world of collectibles. There is a market for a $400 12" scale Wampa, whether or not you like it.Dont care one way or the other if theres a market dude. knock yourself out.

GGC
10-04-2013, 09:53 PM
GGC was drawing a comparison between the steady rise in price both GG and SS implemented with their respective lines. And intrinsic value plays little-to-no role in the world of collectibles. There is a market for a $400 12" scale Wampa, whether or not you like it.

Exactly - Thank you.

Kevin_Lentz
10-04-2013, 10:18 PM
Hey, if you guys want to drop $400 on this, more power to you. I think it will display nicely and if it makes you happy, that's all that matters. I'm thinking about bang for my buck, and I can spend that $400 on something else that will work better for my collection. I'm game for any of the basic 100 GG wants to throw at us, but creatures, playsets, and vehicles (at the prices they're charging so far) will be a pass for me.

AussieFortuna
10-04-2013, 10:29 PM
Yes the Wampa may sell out. But the Jumbo Yoda's also sold out. That was Both versions. Then they magically reappeared available 6 months later.(Surprise!). Then there were 100's of both Yoda's exclusive(brown snake) and Orange snake sold loose from sellers on ebay from China.(Surprise!) Then GG took off all limited edition numbers put on previous and future GG Jumbo Star Wars figures.( Surprise!) Remember the Cantina adventure play set? It was listed as low as 200 made on there site. Then they showed up less than 1/2 price of GG, at a web site with 100+ available. Diamond Dist also had 100's available. So much for limited edition numbers and such. Also notice the Yak Face PGM gift POTF version showing up for less than the GG price on listed web sites a week after it was announced. This was suppose to be a PGM Exclusive So much for limited editions and such. So having limited editions in a limited market is good but only if everyone keeps there word. GG no longer has limited editions numbers and have proven why. So yes the Wampa may sell out and good for you and your $400.00 Bath toy that floats. I'll wait around for another surprise. :sneaky:



P.S. Could you imagine if this item was made and sold by Hasbro and was a Target Store exclusive. It would be like $50.00 and everyone would still wait for clearance

Youve nailed it perfectly here mate, theres no spin anybody can put to justify the price, its a joke and typical GG stuff.

Darth_Thomas
10-04-2013, 11:49 PM
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMSESBVJGnPokqmlLdki7qX67SxgXgh 9DkA_tdbxu-x2qrzNM2qw = $40


How much is that Wampa???

CraigMac
10-04-2013, 11:54 PM
Sad thing is I'll get it to continue with this line but $400 is outrageous.

Mighty_Jabba
10-04-2013, 11:54 PM
You can actually get that Vader for $30 some places.

AaylaSecurasMan
10-05-2013, 12:18 AM
You can actually get that Vader for $30 some places.

Yep, at Wally and Costco

AussieFortuna
10-05-2013, 12:51 AM
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMSESBVJGnPokqmlLdki7qX67SxgXgh 9DkA_tdbxu-x2qrzNM2qw = $40


How much is that Wampa???


LOL, if GG made this vader, it would be $1000 and we would be hearing from them about the difficult tooling from china, and how they need to make a profit, then the bleeding hearts on here would be defending them like they where defending their little brother from getting bullied.

See this vader, it would be worth 5 bucks to make, probably less, the Wampa would be less than $30 to make taking into account the lower numbers, probably way less than that, does anybody realise how cheap it is to get things made up in asia ?

j97e
10-05-2013, 02:25 PM
You can actually get Vader for $25 now on sale at TRU. $400 for that rotocast chunk of plastic is outrageous. I will buy Chewie, T2, or Red Sonja PF from sideshow and will still have change left for that Vader.
They can keep it.

Glitch
10-05-2013, 03:28 PM
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How much is that Wampa???

Totally. On top of this, its a unique sculpt, a more complicated paint job, has a more time consuming assembly (VERY important) and is injection molded (which requires VASTLY more expensive tooling.). Yes, I understand the Wampa is limited and the Vader is for mass production, but tooling for rotocast vinyl is extremely cheap and it's literally pennies for each casting.

I really wish someone other than GG was in charge of this line. They are really exploiting people's love for the vintage line. The price of the standard figures is bad enough, but this one is a real slap in the face.

Shabby_Blue
10-05-2013, 09:02 PM
Ultimately I probably wouldn't have had any place to store or display this piece anyway, so GG made it a real easy decision to pass on it when they priced this at $400. I would have caved into temptation and bought it at $200 though, regardless of limited space issues.

falcon1975
10-05-2013, 11:56 PM
Ultimately I probably wouldn't have had any place to store or display this piece anyway, so GG made it a real easy decision to pass on it when they priced this at $400. I would have caved into temptation and bought it at $200 though, regardless of limited space issues.

Same here with limited space but I would have bought at $200 or a little above. Space can be saved for a future premium format or if I splurge on the Fett mythos now.

Glitch
10-06-2013, 10:48 AM
Ultimately I probably wouldn't have had any place to store or display this piece anyway, so GG made it a real easy decision to pass on it when they priced this at $400. I would have caved into temptation and bought it at $200 though, regardless of limited space issues.

Totally agree on both counts.

Thing is, it's not that I can't afford $400 (Hell, I even have doubles of the first 12), but it's just the fact that they have the nerve to ask $400 for it.

GG really turned off a lot of collectors of this line with this move - myself included. The size issue with Blue Snaggletooth (along with several other sloppy oversights) was the first straw, but this very well may be the last.

I've noticed the prices of older figures are falling fast on eBay (only $100 for a Sand Person now). This will only continue as more people bail on this line.

Turbowars
10-06-2013, 11:03 AM
Yeah Im glad I sold all mine off when I did and I actually made a few extra bucks doing so. It all came down to room and the cost of each figure. They are cheaply made and that doesnt translate to a high dollar collectable. Plus I have grown out of the got to have it all type of thinking. I feel free.
Totally agree on both counts.

Thing is, it's not that I can't afford $400 (Hell, I even have doubles of the first 12), but it's just the fact that they have the nerve to ask $400 for it.

GG really turned off a lot of collectors of this line with this move - myself included. The size issue with Blue Snaggletooth (along with several other sloppy oversights) was the first straw, but this very well may be the last.

I've noticed the prices of older figures are falling fast on eBay (only $100 for a Sand Person now). This will only continue as more people bail on this line.

jedimasterc
10-06-2013, 02:46 PM
There were certain ones I really like. I only made a point to get only the bad guys. In this scale the good guys head sculpts don't look good. The only one that has a face is the DS commander and I only got him for like 33 bucks. These are the ones I have.

Vader
Vinyl Jawa
Stromtrooper
Rocket firing fett
R5-D4
Blue Snaggletooth
both Yakfaces I am thinking of selling the tri logo one from CE 2.

To stay on topic. I too think the price for the Wampa is way to much. I also think its overkill that GG is pawning off that life sized "figure".

CaptainAlex
10-06-2013, 03:18 PM
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How much is that Wampa???


Don't confuse the issue with logic and facts.:P

blue_rogue
10-06-2013, 06:59 PM
Wow! I don't pay much attention to Gentle Giant these days and I just saw the price for this. I thought the regular jumbo figures were overpriced, but this is just insane. At that price it should include a jumbo Tauntaun instead of Hoth Luke.

Turbowars
10-06-2013, 07:03 PM
When GG announces the edition size of 100 everyone is going to flip out.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-06-2013, 09:30 PM
When GG announces the edition size of 100 everyone is going to flip out.

GG doesn't release edition sizes any longer :) They are all just "limited edition" ;) They didn't like "scalpers" using it to sell their items at inflated prices. Ironically that's exactly what they used them for :)

Shabby_Blue
10-06-2013, 11:45 PM
When GG announces the edition size of 100 everyone is going to flip out.

But that's what is stupid about this whole thing. They jumped to the assumption that they could only sell 100 of these (or whatever low number it is) and therefore had to price it at $400 to justify such a low production run and turn a profit. 100 x $400 = $40k. So what brilliant marketing tests determined the demand for an item that had no precedent in this line? They could potentially have sold 2 to 3 times as many as whatever their production run is, and therefore could have priced it cheaper. But we'll never know, will we? Because they decided to make this thing ridiculously limited and overpriced.

Let's say if they priced it out at $200 with a much larger production run to match that (like 300? 500? 1000?) then I bet many more people would be willing to buy it at that price. 300 for $200 = $60k. 500 = $100k. 1000 = $200k. Those production numbers are just theoretical, but it shows that more profit could be made at a larger production run, even at a lower price point as long as they sell through the production run. I think they were just afraid to take a chance on a larger production run and assumed so few people would buy this thing from the start. Why have such little faith in a good product?

As I said earlier in this thread, they are deliberately excluding many potential customers of this product by making the production run so low and pricing it out of our budget. Many people dropped out of buying this because of its price -- people who were clearly willing to buy it at the more reasonable $200 price it should have been. Why ignore that demand?

DarthPhlegethon
10-07-2013, 07:24 PM
As I said earlier in this thread, they are deliberately excluding many potential customers of this product by making the production run so low and pricing it out of our budget. Many people dropped out of buying this because of its price -- people who were clearly willing to buy it at the more reasonable $200 price it should have been. Why ignore that demand?

Unfortunately, this exclusion mentality is one of the guiding principles of GG's philosophy. See the Clone Commander Rock Star Tour, especially the short run on Neyo. Karl admitted as much.

assemblyrequired
10-07-2013, 11:57 PM
GG has good marketing folks but the creative dept. needs to have fresh eyes. Basically the theory of their current works are taking anything produced by Kenner from the
good old days " and just reproducing it larger. It's like a vulture feeding on easy pray.

It's brilliant marketing because the customer base is already there. Take a few dozen conventions , release a variation and your money is more than made. They could be made of the worse plastic available because 75% of them will never be opened and just displayed. Until people start rejecting these numb products they will continue to produce these " recasts " . At 400.00 people will buy them , realize they have no room for them , then sell them around Christmas or the next production releasals.

I should buy one and vacuum form it after breaking it apart. Sell them for 100.00 as a kit make a fortune.

-James

Astroboy
10-08-2013, 11:59 AM
Well said!!! I'd buy your bootleg for $100. I'm not choosy. :)


GG has good marketing folks but the creative dept. needs to have fresh eyes. Basically the theory of their current works are taking anything produced by Kenner from the
good old days " and just reproducing it larger. It's like a vulture feeding on easy pray.

It's brilliant marketing because the customer base is already there. Take a few dozen conventions , release a variation and your money is more than made. They could be made of the worse plastic available because 75% of them will never be opened and just displayed. Until people start rejecting these numb products they will continue to produce these " recasts " . At 400.00 people will buy them , realize they have no room for them , then sell them around Christmas or the next production releasals.

I should buy one and vacuum form it after breaking it apart. Sell them for 100.00 as a kit make a fortune.

-James

Sublevel
10-08-2013, 02:46 PM
Well, I pre-ordered one - it was WAY more than I expected to pay BUT it's going to look incredible on display - it's one big chunk of plastic, and hopefully they'll get the box done right! I might be an idiot for buying one, but I'm a Star Wars collector, and therefore not of sound mind anyway ;)

wgenich
10-08-2013, 06:36 PM
I've got one on order. I just wanted to point out to the several people on here that said it would be in a box and therefore not displayable as a MIB piece:

"Gentle Giant has packaged this figure with an Empire Strikes Back-inspired backer card featuring original photos and artwork. Designed with the collector in mind, the figure comes in a resealable plastic outer clam shell to help protect and display this limited edition figure."

Yeah, it's going to be carded.

Shabby_Blue
10-08-2013, 06:46 PM
I've got one on order. I just wanted to point out to the several people on here that said it would be in a box and therefore not displayable as a MIB piece:

"Gentle Giant has packaged this figure with an Empire Strikes Back-inspired backer card featuring original photos and artwork. Designed with the collector in mind, the figure comes in a resealable plastic outer clam shell to help protect and display this limited edition figure."

Yeah, it's going to be carded.

A Gentle Giant rep posted earlier in this thread that it was going to come in a box similar to the original vintage version's packaging. So either they lied, or plans were changed at the last minute. Yet another reason I won't be buying this. I wanted an oversized replica of the vintage packaging. This thing is going to look ridiculous on a massive blister card. :(

VinylSquirrel
10-08-2013, 07:27 PM
I've got one on order. I just wanted to point out to the several people on here that said it would be in a box and therefore not displayable as a MIB piece:

"Gentle Giant has packaged this figure with an Empire Strikes Back-inspired backer card featuring original photos and artwork. Designed with the collector in mind, the figure comes in a resealable plastic outer clam shell to help protect and display this limited edition figure."

Yeah, it's going to be carded.

Hi wgenich -- First off, thanks for your support! This is definitely a piece not to miss out on. This is not a mass produced piece and will surely be a hard one to find once they are released. Please take a moment and read the description on our website closer for packaging description (I have copied below). The Wampa will come in a closed box just like the original. We will be replicating as closely as possible. The Luke will come like he did originally -- and that is on a blister card that can be resealed.

Here is the copy from our website. Each description separately discloses the type of packaging:

LIMITED TIME OFFER! Pre-Order the Wampa Kenner-Inspired Jumbo Figure and get the Luke Hoth Kenner Jumbo Figure FREE. Offer is valid through 11:59 pm on Monday, October 14th.

But Wait...There's more,,,
FREE Domestic Shipping and 1/2 Off International Shipping*.
*Please Note: Shipping discounts will be calculated before order is processed.

Reenact one of the most famous scenes from ‘The Empire Strikes Back’ with this incredible special offer!

Just like they were when you were a kid, only BIGGER! Gentle Giant is proud to bring you the latest addition to our of vintage Kenner-Inspired Star Wars Action Figure reproductions with the release of the WAMPA! Digitally scanned from a mint 6” original, the Wampa Jumbo Vintage Figure stands at a staggering 22” tall, and features swinging arm action, just like the figure that inspired it! With a commitment to keep in line with the vintage theme, this limited edition collectable comes in Empire Strikes Back-inspired vintage style packaging featuring original photos and artwork.

Gentle Giant is proud to bring you the latest addition to our exciting line of vintage Kenner-inspired Star Wars Action Figure reproductions with the release of the classic Luke Skywalker in Hoth Battle Gear figure.

Digitally scanned from mint 3 ” Kenner originals and reproduced at a Jumbo size, no detail has been overlooked. Injection molded and made of durable plastics, this jumbo figure includes a faithfully reproduced blaster and comes fully articulated!

With a commitment to keep in line with the vintage Kenner experience, Gentle Giant has packaged this figure with an Empire Strikes Back-inspired backer card featuring original photos and artwork. Designed with the collector in mind, the figure comes in a resealable plastic outer clam shell to help protect and display this limited edition figure.

Hope this helps. Cheers!

wgenich
10-08-2013, 09:55 PM
Ahh, I misread, and thought the last paragraph was about the Wampa, not the Luke! Thanks for the clarification.

captainsolo
10-09-2013, 12:05 PM
Agree with most people on here. If it was closer to 200-250. Thats a no brainer, but...... maybe santa will splurge for me

MRod
10-09-2013, 12:29 PM
I just picked this up for the perfect price! PGM discount plus $250 gift card plus $114 in rewards points = FREE! Totally worth this price.

Dutchskywalker
10-09-2013, 04:26 PM
This is not a mass produced piece and will surely be a hard one to find once they are released. !

Thats all because of the pricing GG chooses for this piece.
GG could have sold al lot more of these if this was more realisticaly priced.

DarthMickeyMoose
10-09-2013, 05:35 PM
There are no limited numbers now associated with any GG Jumbo figures thanks to GG changing there course. Which can only mean they will be making more of any of the Star Wars Jumbo's if they feel like it for any reason in the future. Which would be fine if they weren't ORIGINALLY sold as limited editions with low production BS. Hence see the Yoda GG Jumbo thread, that was Strangely never addressed by GG. The new, no numbers will also will include the Wampa. So if your buying this because you have money to burn fine, Enjoy your Wampa Bath Toy. If you think this will be the ultimate GG item ever made and it will be Worth thousands in a year. well..............:oops:

trigger2k10
10-10-2013, 07:05 AM
Well, I went ahead and preordered before 10/14 gets here. $33 in reward points, PGM discount, and free shipping = $325. Subtract the price of the 'free' Luke, and Wampa is costing me $250. Still kind of high though, but I've just gotta see it for myself.

BTW, they WILL remove the shipping charge before actually shipping, right? As of now $19.68 S/H is on my invoice but it's supposed to be free. It says something about shipping discounts being calculated before processing...

So, to make the Hoth scene complete, I guess a Jumbo taun taun is coming next?

My god I hate to see the price on that thing.

Shabby_Blue
10-14-2013, 12:24 AM
So I'm hearing from those who ordered this through GG's website that when they select a shipping method, it's adding the usual shipping cost to the total for the order even though it's advertised as having free shipping. Since this won't be billed and shipped until roughly a year from now, will GG remember to honor the free shipping when the time comes and adjust the total price on the order, or are they going to screw up yet again and accidentally overbill everyone, which will then require issuing numerous credit card refunds for all the shipping charges that should not have been billed?

On a related note, I'm not seeing a link on their website to order Hoth Luke separately. Will that be an option once the deadline for the Hoth Wampa/Hoth Luke special ends after tonight? I only want Luke -- not the ridiculously overpriced Wampa.

Mighty_Jabba
10-14-2013, 07:52 AM
There's a link to the Luke page on the Wampa page, but here it is:

Luke Hoth Kenner Jumbo Figure (http://www.gentlegiantltd.com/product_p/80333.htm)

maniac79
10-14-2013, 01:10 PM
Yes, the price tag was a lot higher than everyone assumed. Yet I think some people have done the math right, remove all the discounts (free figure, free shipping/half off shipping on international orders, PGM discount, PGM points, ...) and you're close to the $200 price tag that everyone assumed earlier. I have planned to preorder the Luke anyhow, so it's just great to get him as part of this bundle. And it's good that the Wampa is getting some support, as without any support we will never see a Tauntaun, Jabba, etc... and I believe some here are looking forward to that (that includes me).
I preordered on the 1st day and do not regret it. After all it's also 1 year to save up for it, put aside less than $40 a month and you have it. If you want to have it, of course. :)

Just sharing my opinion and I respect everyone else's. Just sharing my opinion, nothing more to add, everything else has already been said here.

Ackbar254
10-14-2013, 02:12 PM
The 400 dollars isn't really my problem, I just can't justify spending it for that. If the Wampa was cheaper I would pick him up but to me he's not essential. Now a Taun Taun would be a different story (might swing for two). I'm happy for everyone who's wanted and buying this but it's not for me.

Shabby_Blue
10-14-2013, 09:24 PM
If they make Jabba with his throne, I have no doubt it will be priced significantly more than what Sideshow charged for their 1/6 scale version, which is just insane. I own Sideshow's impressively detailed Jabba w/ throne and therefore have no desire to ever get a Gentle Giant vintage version, regardless of nostalgic appeal. I'll definitely be laughing and rolling my eyes at whatever absurd price they have the nerve to charge for an eventual Jabba. My bet: between $700-$1000.

Shabby_Blue
10-14-2013, 09:37 PM
There's a link to the Luke page on the Wampa page, but here it is:

Luke Hoth Kenner Jumbo Figure (http://www.gentlegiantltd.com/product_p/80333.htm)


That link no longer works. I don't see any updated page on their site for that figure either. I wonder if they pulled it as soon as you pointed it out on this forum. :)

Maybe they are trying to discourage people from ordering him separately until after the Wampa deal ends, hoping some collectors are stupid enough to think that the only way they can get Hoth Luke is by ordering the Wampa. Interesting....

Ackbar254
10-14-2013, 10:57 PM
That link no longer works. I don't see any updated page on their site for that figure either. I wonder if they pulled it as soon as you pointed it out on this forum. :)

Gentle Giant "No Luke For You!!"

AussieFortuna
10-15-2013, 08:36 AM
The sad or good thing is depending how you look at it, but the disappointment of the wampa price really made me reflect on this line.
Im going on 39, i really think im getting too old for this *****, having big 12'' toys in the house is getting a bit sad, WTF am i doing with these jumbos?
Ive been one of GG's biggest supporters with this line, ive sold heaps for them telling others how great they are on the forums, and if you have a focus, yes one or two is cool to get, they have made a few good ones, but ive come to the end of the line with the price of this wampa.
Honestly, just looking at them, im a bit embarrassed ive got over 10 of them, WTF am i going to do with them in the future, i mean i love greedo and Yak, but they are just over sized figures of figures made for 7 year olds, and they are bloody huge, i have zero childhood connection with these 12'', and having them in my home makes me look like a serious idiot with these figures my house is starting to look like a 12 year olds room who has no mates and no girlfriend, the sad thing is i have a girl friend, i dont know how the fek she puts up with this stuff, im looking at them now and im feeling stupid.
My mistake ive only got myself to blame, well done GG you sucked me in, you got my cash, but you wont be getting any more....

moral to the story..........Im an idiot......

assemblyrequired
10-15-2013, 09:39 AM
The sad or good thing is depending how you look at it, but the disappointment of the wampa price really made me reflect on this line.
Im going on 39, i really think im getting too old for this *****, having big 12'' toys in the house is getting a bit sad, WTF am i doing with these jumbos?
Ive been one of GG's biggest supporters with this line, ive sold heaps for them telling others how great they are on the forums, and if you have a focus, yes one or two is cool to get, they have made a few good ones, but ive come to the end of the line with the price of this wampa.
Honestly, just looking at them, im a bit embarrassed ive got over 10 of them, WTF am i going to do with them in the future, i mean i love greedo and Yak, but they are just over sized figures of figures made for 7 year olds, and they are bloody huge, i have zero childhood connection with these 12'', and having them in my home makes me look like a serious idiot with these figures my house is starting to look like a 12 year olds room who has no mates and no girlfriend, the sad thing is i have a girl friend, i dont know how the fek she puts up with this stuff, im looking at them now and im feeling stupid.
My mistake ive only got myself to blame, well done GG you sucked me in, you got my cash, but you wont be getting any more....

moral to the story..........Im an idiot......

your being to mature that's what is happening . The end of the story will be that the GG line will never be the vintage line prices . Why waste 400 on a new GG when you could pay 400 to something that ' Will " increase in value. The new will wear off after people have 40 large figures in their rooms without any space for anything else. GG items are cannon fodder first when someone wants to buy something else new. The old school collectors know this already , but it takes some people going through it to witness for themselves.

I was sucked in my Episode 1 items...any of them . I made that mistake too. After I trashed many of them I realized I could have spent it on anything else...God forbid I spend it on my family..

-James

Mighty_Jabba
10-15-2013, 09:41 AM
That link no longer works. I don't see any updated page on their site for that figure either. I wonder if they pulled it as soon as you pointed it out on this forum. :)

Maybe they are trying to discourage people from ordering him separately until after the Wampa deal ends, hoping some collectors are stupid enough to think that the only way they can get Hoth Luke is by ordering the Wampa. Interesting....

The product page is now back. It disappearing temporarily probably had something to do with the Wampa deal ending on the 14th.

Ackbar254
10-15-2013, 10:45 AM
The end of the story will be that the GG line will never be the vintage line prices . Why waste 400 on a new GG when you could pay 400 to something that ' Will " increase in value.

I've never bought a toy for its future value. If I wanted something that would always have real value I'd buy gold, not a sculpted piece of plastic.

Mighty_Jabba
10-15-2013, 12:01 PM
I agree with that sentiment (buy something because you want it rather than because of what you might be able to sell it for in the future). That said, it's discouraging to think that these things won't even maintain their value, much less appreciate over time like some collectibles.

DarthMickeyMoose
10-15-2013, 06:37 PM
I agree with that sentiment (buy something because you want it rather than because of what you might be able to sell it for in the future). That said, it's discouraging to think that these things won't even maintain their value, much less appreciate over time like some collectibles.



And to that point a friend of mine just bought the GG POTF Exclusive Yak Face POTF on ebay for $50.00 and change. :o

Ackbar254
10-15-2013, 07:49 PM
Honestly, just looking at them, im a bit embarrassed ive got over 10 of them, WTF am i going to do with them in the future, i mean i love greedo and Yak, but they are just over sized figures of figures made for 7 year olds, and they are bloody huge, i have zero childhood connection with these 12'', and having them in my home makes me look like a serious idiot with these figures my house is starting to look like a 12 year olds room who has no mates and no girlfriend, the sad thing is i have a girl friend, i dont know how the fek she puts up with this stuff, im looking at them now and im feeling stupid.

I don't get why your so down on yourself. You obviously enjoyed getting these at some point and you should never be ashamed of having a hobby you like. My best friend is a Jeep freak, he spends a lot of money upgrading and maintaining his rides. I don't get the same thrill out of it he does and he doesn't understand why I like collecting toys but we both know the other is happy doing their thing.
Also my girl hates my toy collection but she does love me so she puts up with it. We live in a 2 bedroom apartment in which I had the spare bedroom for my display. But now we have a daughter so everything had to be moved into the bedroom. It drives her crazy but she knows that's what I do and she doesn't wanna change me.
Long story short your not stupid, just be yourself!

DarthBeek
10-15-2013, 11:09 PM
I would never have Star Wars in my bedroom. I mean, seriously?

Turbowars
10-15-2013, 11:14 PM
Some people dont have the room you do Beek. Kind of a ****** thing to say.

DarthBeek
10-15-2013, 11:26 PM
Some people dont have the room you do Beek. Kind of a ****** thing to say.

Oh well...just my opinion on the matter.

I simply wouldn't cross that line, or want to for that matter. If my man cave space vanished, I'd simply go without collectibles.

Turbowars
10-15-2013, 11:32 PM
yeah oh well I guess.

AussieFortuna
10-16-2013, 12:46 AM
I don't get why your so down on yourself. You obviously enjoyed getting these at some point and you should never be ashamed of having a hobby you like. My best friend is a Jeep freak, he spends a lot of money upgrading and maintaining his rides. I don't get the same thrill out of it he does and he doesn't understand why I like collecting toys but we both know the other is happy doing their thing.
Also my girl hates my toy collection but she does love me so she puts up with it. We live in a 2 bedroom apartment in which I had the spare bedroom for my display. But now we have a daughter so everything had to be moved into the bedroom. It drives her crazy but she knows that's what I do and she doesn't wanna change me.
Long story short your not stupid, just be yourself!

Hi buddy, im not ashamed, i suppose im just trying to be honest with myself, yes i did enjoy collecting them, and i dont collect anything for future returns, but i think ive just had a wake up moment regarding my collectable habits, the last thing i see myself as is a money waster, i dont collect everything, this is the first modern anything ive ever collected.
Im used to just sticking with kenner and bootlegs of kenner and im happy with that.
I got caught up in these, and i still really like a few of them, it was a good idea from GG, but just speaking for me, im feeling silly putting down plenty of cash on these, plus shipping to Aus, the one i wanted most was the wampa, its gonna cost me over $500 to get it to Aus, and its the deal breaker for me.
Its just a big hunk of plastic for $500, man thats a lot of money for me, its just made me reasses my priorities.
Thanks for the kind words.

Ackbar254
10-16-2013, 08:28 AM
Oh well...just my opinion on the matter.

I simply wouldn't cross that line, or want to for that matter. If my man cave space vanished, I'd simply go without collectibles.

Different strokes for different folks, it's what makes the world go around.
We hope to buy a house within the next 2 years then I'll have my showcase room but untill then my half of the bedroom is the only place I'm "allowed" to display my collection.

SexxyDrummerBoy1
10-16-2013, 09:24 AM
Different strokes for different folks, it's what makes the world go around. We hope to buy a house within the next 2 years then I'll have my showcase room but untill then my half of the bedroom is the only place I'm "allowed" to display my collection.

Exactly. I currently don't have my collection on display as I am in the process of buying a house, but will soon I hope! Kids have some of their favorite things in their bedrooms, so why not the big kids as well? Even something small on a stand or even a print hanging on the wall. Yes, we're all adults here(well most of us), but some people take life a little to seriously. Do what makes you happy:-)

maniac79
10-16-2013, 09:29 AM
Nice to see that I'm not the only one dreaming of a display room if they buy a house. :)

Anyhow, if this "Wampa crisis" causes some people to leave this line, I'm still looking for a Jumbo Farmboy Luke. :)

Kaneda_01
10-16-2013, 06:30 PM
I put my pre-order in to take advantage of the FREE Luke Hoth offer early on... figured I have almost a full year to decided what I want to do, etc. I'm almost sure after Han Hoth, Rebel Trooper and Snowtrooper arrive... I'll be at the point of no return. LOL! :O)

Shabby_Blue
10-16-2013, 06:50 PM
The Hoth set won't feel complete without a Hoth Leia though. :(

Kaneda_01
10-16-2013, 07:07 PM
I figure Hoth Leia will be a next year release or convention exclusive.... keeping my fingers crossed. :0)

Glitch
10-16-2013, 08:27 PM
Yes, the price tag was a lot higher than everyone assumed. Yet I think some people have done the math right, remove all the discounts (free figure, free shipping/half off shipping on international orders, PGM discount, PGM points, ...) and you're close to the $200 price tag that everyone assumed earlier.

If you include the $100 for Luke, it's not "free." If that's the way you want to try to explain away the insane price of the Wampa, that's fine, but you can also look at it another way - they're forcing you to buy the Luke for $100 to get the Wampa for a still completely laughable price.

Plus, you're assuming we all have a tons of PGM points to blow through.

The Wampa price is absolutely impossible to justify or explain away. GG made a bad move and it's going to/has already come back to bite them in the ***. Even the mods on this site, who almost never comment on this stuff, have stuck their heads into this topic to laugh.

GG, do yourself a favor and drop the price on this thing ASAP. Sell many more at a lower price AND escape the scorn of the fans and mass abandonment of this line. Might be too late, but it's worth a shot.

Might even save a few jobs.

:)

vtoys
10-16-2013, 10:52 PM
Beyond disappointed still about this... I love the line,they make absolutely great display pieces and are a huge ice breaker at shows- I have been snagging them as they come, but to see the Wampa price just kills me, unless there's something I've completely missed (he's lined with gold?) - there is absolutely no way to justify that price tag. Frustrating.

GGC
10-16-2013, 10:59 PM
It's up alone for the $399, congrats to those who snagged it with the Free Luke and Shipping!

LandoSkiff
10-17-2013, 12:13 AM
I had the original 12 that I sold for a tidy profit a couple months back. Looks like I sold at the top. Can't wait to buy them back for a song in a few years.

Glitch
10-17-2013, 12:30 AM
It's up alone for the $399, congrats to those who snagged it with the Free Luke and Shipping!

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

AussieFortuna
10-17-2013, 01:16 AM
^^^^LOLL.....

vtoys
10-17-2013, 09:00 AM
LOL, I guess the free ship and Luke offset a little bit of the price gouge, but wasn't near enough...

assemblyrequired
10-17-2013, 09:33 AM
I had the original 12 that I sold for a tidy profit a couple months back. Looks like I sold at the top. Can't wait to buy them back for a song in a few years.


very true , Super 7 is still trying to sell the Shogun Stormtrooper and it was " limited " to 1200 pieces. Once the bottom falls out or they realize how stupid they are for not keeping them cannon, they will go down .

-James

vtoys
10-17-2013, 11:01 AM
I feel like there's a lot of that going on lately- the 'limited' release that seemingly has little demand. I'm hopeful that either A) that happens with the Wampa and people want to bail on them and lose money, or B) GG shapes up and fixes the price (which is obviously too late when there have been orders on it) - I guess maybe it will sell better than I'd assume and they really don't care. If the margins are high enough, they can sell the first bunch at a premium and blow the remainders out and still probably make bank off the figure.

Ackbar254
10-17-2013, 11:15 AM
I feel like there's a lot of that going on lately- the 'limited' release that seemingly has little demand. I'm hopeful that either A) that happens with the Wampa and people want to bail on them and lose money, or B) GG shapes up and fixes the price (which is obviously too late when there have been orders on it) - I guess maybe it will sell better than I'd assume and they really don't care. If the margins are high enough, they can sell the first bunch at a premium and blow the remainders out and still probably make bank off the figure.

I wouldn't be surprised to find him for a better price after his release. Hopefully then people who really wanted this can pick it up for a price they find reasonable.

vtoys
10-17-2013, 11:48 AM
Yeah, it will be hard to say. I'll be curious what the wholesale price on him is- I have a wholesale account with EE so I normally pick up my GG's through there and sell off the extra that comes in a case. I have a feeling with that high of a MSRP that even the wholesale price is very high.

I should have prefaced my other posts with - Don't get me wrong, I'm all about spending good money for good toys, but when you're talking a brand new production item that realistically should have a relatively low manufacturing cost (I get that there's minimum orders and stuff that need to be met through a manufacturer, and that can raise cost) - it just seems so far out of line that it's difficult to comprehend.

I've really considered trying to get into manufacturing toy lines, and seeing stuff like this definitely makes me curious if there's a real justification for the price- if there's real demand at that price- or if it's just a cash cow for GG. Guess no one may ever know!

-As a side note- Just saw you (Ackbar254) are from Linn Co. - I grew up in Central City and my wife is from Earlville... Small world =)

Shabby_Blue
10-17-2013, 07:20 PM
BBTS has the Wampa up for pre-order cheaper than what GG is selling it at. You can get it for $359.99 thru BBTS (plus shipping of course).

22" Kenner Wampa - Star Wars 12" Kenner 2010-2013 Figures 12" Kenner 2010-2013 Figures (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=GG10617&mode=retail)

Ackbar254
10-17-2013, 07:51 PM
-As a side note- Just saw you (Ackbar254) are from Linn Co. - I grew up in Central City and my wife is from Earlville... Small world =)
Yes it is, lived here for 7 years now. Originally from TX but this is such a great place to live! Wonderful people and not much crime.

vtoys
10-17-2013, 10:51 PM
Yeah it's definitely a different atmosphere for sure. We live in Colorado now and it's a whole different world...

Anyway- How 'bout them Wampa prices?!?!?

JediMarty
10-18-2013, 06:43 AM
Action Figure Express has the Wampa for 359.09 plus shipping (around $25 shipping)

Star Wars Wampa Kenner-Inspired Jumbo Figure by Gentle Giant (http://www.shopafx.com/stwawakejufi.html)

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-18-2013, 11:16 AM
Action Figure Express has the Wampa for 359.09 plus shipping (around $25 shipping)

Star Wars Wampa Kenner-Inspired Jumbo Figure by Gentle Giant (http://www.shopafx.com/stwawakejufi.html)

Thats still about $225 more then it should be. At $175 I would have considered this.

Now that the promotion is over, how does anyone rationalize this price or defend GGs obvious price gouge on this? $400 for the Wampa is beyond ridiculous!

vtoys
10-18-2013, 12:50 PM
I don't think a $200 to $250 MSRP would have been bad, but obviously we don't know their margins on it- but every time I scroll by this part of the forum it boggles my mind how they came out to $400 =( I guess just a sad part of me that I know I won't come near that price so I won't own one...

BillMulder
10-18-2013, 01:35 PM
I don't think a $200 to $250 MSRP would have been bad, but obviously we don't know their margins on it-...

Yeah, I hate the price and I certainly expected to be about $200 or $250 but for people don't work for GG or even in the industry to say what the cost of an item should be is the one thing that is more ridiculous than the price.

And let's face it, if it was $200, there's SOME people that would be whining that that was too expensive and it was only worth $150 (and if it was $150, they'd be saying that it should be $100 and if it was $100, it should be a freebie to loyal customers, etc.).

Mighty_Jabba
10-18-2013, 02:27 PM
I would argue that if a price causes shock and dismay among your most loyal customers, then that isn't what the price should be. If you legitimately can't produce the item for less than that price, then maybe it shouldn't be produced at all.

BillMulder
10-18-2013, 03:47 PM
I would argue that if a price causes shock and dismay among your most loyal customers, then that isn't what the price should be. If you legitimately can't produce the item for less than that price, then maybe it shouldn't be produced at all.

I'd agree with that. Clearly, the price has angered a lot of people (not just the whiners) and made some people dial back or drop their purchases of the Kenner line so the Wampa probably isn't going to be worth the negativity that it's created.

xphillips
10-18-2013, 04:11 PM
$399 or $359 ... hahahaha ... still a joke. A sad joke. I guess I'm ok with the Wampa crashing and ending the 12" line. Cause I'm done... so are quite a few others.

Red_Threepio
10-18-2013, 04:20 PM
I don't know, I'm glad they made it even if I'm not going to buy one. I'm glad its out there, I'm glad I get to see it and I'm glad it's going to some bring some folks some enjoyment to have one in their collection. I wouldn't have bought this even at $100, the thing is 22 inches tall! Where would I put it? But that's just me, I guess I'm just not a giant Wampa kind of guy.
There is obviously a very limited market for products like this, no doubt the jumbo Cantina Set sales proved that theory out. So let me think this out with some rough numbers and logic: I'm GG and I know I can probably only market this guy to maybe, lets say 1000 people. So I can only produce 1000 units period, at any price. Now I have to task X number of employees with X amount of hours on this project. Who knows what that number really is but even if its just 4 or 5 people over 4 or 5 months you're probably over $100,000 just in payroll. Now add in the licensing costs, software modelling, prototypes, molds, materials, packaging, marketing, etc etc I would think we could probably double that amount and say we're invested in the $200,000 range?
$200,000 divided by 1000 units is $200. $200 a piece just to break even in this scenario. I dont think its unreasonable for a smallish company to want to double their money on a project like this. It is a business after all.
As much as we all balk at that initial sticker shock I'm sure glad they are doing what they do to give us enjoyment in our hobby.

vtoys
10-18-2013, 05:16 PM
want to double their money on a project like this. It is a business after all.



My guess is they aren't anywhere close to doubling their money on it, but if they are... props to them. I'll be back later, starting a toy company =P Margins like that would be insane.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-18-2013, 05:49 PM
Yeah, I hate the price and I certainly expected to be about $200 or $250 but for people don't work for GG or even in the industry to say what the cost of an item should be is the one thing that is more ridiculous than the price.

And let's face it, if it was $200, there's SOME people that would be whining that that was too expensive and it was only worth $150 (and if it was $150, they'd be saying that it should be $100 and if it was $100, it should be a freebie to loyal customers, etc.).


LOL.....I don't work for a candy company either but if 4 companies made a similar candy and 3 companies sold it for $5 a bag and the 4th company sells it for $15 a bag it's not ridiculous to think they are crazy! Then that same company that sells the $15 bag makes a bigger bag that is only 50% bigger and now asks $60 for the bag that's ridiculous!

BillMulder
10-18-2013, 06:53 PM
LOL.....I don't work for a candy company either but if 4 companies made a similar candy and 3 companies sold it for $5 a bag and the 4th company sells it for $15 a bag it's not ridiculous to think they are crazy! Then that same company that sells the $15 bag makes a bigger bag that is only 50% bigger and now asks $60 for the bag that's ridiculous!

So why did they pick this one item to just raise the price to a level that literally no one expected? Did they do it just to create negative buzz about the line, lose some customers and sell far fewer of them than they would have at $200? What is their upside of raising the price on an item that they will be lucky to sell a few hundred of and also has the added benefit of angering a lot of their customers?

This is an extremely expensive item but the reality is that it also costs a lot of money to make. I hate the price but it's probably well within the range of the cost of the other figures in this line.

Mighty_Jabba
10-18-2013, 08:47 PM
It's not just the wampa. Their spider legs Darth Maul statue and Dewback animated statue were also quite a bit more expensive than most expected (both were also $399 and both came with "bonus" $100 gift cards if you ordered early on). It's basically the same deal as the wampa. And of course the SDCC-exclusive Boba Fett statue was a lot more than most expected -- roughly twice what other similar busts have been. I think they're testing a new approach to see if people will accept higher price points. I'm sure they expect some attrition, but if their core customers will keep buying at the higher price point, then they can afford to lose some people. They'll still be making the same amount of money (or more) for less work. I really can't think of any other explanation -- increases in production prices can't account for these huge jumps.

Turbowars
10-18-2013, 08:54 PM
GG has always been about negative buzz. Year after year its the same old crap. Some have taken it and some have bailed. Im still around for one type of product and they don't make much OT things anymore. Oh well.
So why did they pick this one item to just raise the price to a level that literally no one expected? Did they do it just to create negative buzz about the line, lose some customers and sell far fewer of them than they would have at $200? What is their upside of raising the price on an item that they will be lucky to sell a few hundred of and also has the added benefit of angering a lot of their customers?

This is an extremely expensive item but the reality is that it also costs a lot of money to make. I hate the price but it's probably well within the range of the cost of the other figures in this line.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-18-2013, 10:12 PM
So why did they pick this one item to just raise the price to a level that literally no one expected? Did they do it just to create negative buzz about the line, lose some customers and sell far fewer of them than they would have at $200? What is their upside of raising the price on an item that they will be lucky to sell a few hundred of and also has the added benefit of angering a lot of their customers?

This is an extremely expensive item but the reality is that it also costs a lot of money to make. I hate the price but it's probably well within the range of the cost of the other figures in this line.

Icruise hit it on the head! It's just them raising the prices and seeing how far they can take it. There is NO WAY this costs ANYWHERE close to $400 to produce! Basically they have a monopoly on the "jumbo vintage" line and are pricing them as such to see what is acceptable. They price them ridiculously and expect people to buy them no matter what the price. This is nothing new, they have been raising prices on many items and a few dollars a year on items would make sense as the price of materials rises but when the price of a bust more then doubles ($60 to $150 for the Fett) THAT is ridiculous! The cost to produce the regular jumbo figures at $80 is still high for a plastic 12" figure but to ask FIVE times that for a figure that is only 50% bigger at 18 inches?????

BillMulder
10-18-2013, 10:30 PM
Icruise hit it on the head! It's just them raising the prices and seeing how far they can take it. There is NO WAY this costs ANYWHERE close to $400 to produce!I might agree if the price was $300 but they aren't charging $400 just because they can. They're charging that much because they need to see a profit and a $400 price tag is how they're achieving that.

Mighty_Jabba
10-18-2013, 10:34 PM
Not sure I get the logic. If the price was $300, then it's them being greedy, but because it's $400 they have to charge that much to make a profit? Why?

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-18-2013, 10:40 PM
I might agree if the price was $300 but they aren't charging $400 just because they can. They're charging that much because they need to see a profit and a $400 price tag is how they're achieving that.

So if I'm reading this right, if they raised the price and were asking $300 ( 4x the regular) they would be greedy but because they are asking $400 (5x a reg figure ) they must have to raise the price so much because of cost?? I don't get it either?

AussieFortuna
10-18-2013, 11:05 PM
Theres no excusses for the price on this, its just price gouging at its finest, simple as that.

BillMulder
10-19-2013, 06:59 AM
So if I'm reading this right, if they raised the price and were asking $300 ( 4x the regular) they would be greedy but because they are asking $400 (5x a reg figure ) they must have to raise the price so much because of cost?? I don't get it either?

I'm saying that if the cost of the Wampa should have been $200 (as some people are saying) that maybe they would have pushed the price to $300 to just bleed more money out of people. However, a $400 price tag is so large and so much higher than anyone expected that it's not insane greed driving the price up that high, it's the cost of the item that pushed the price up that high.

If that's not the case, then why is GG just ripping off the fans on that one item? Why do it on an item that is all but guaranteed to be the smallest selling item in the line's history? The bounty hunter figures will probably sell pretty well for them, why didn't their greed also make them raise the price of the regular figures to $100 or $125?

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-19-2013, 09:05 AM
Thats a crazy way of thinking. They ARE insanely greedy and I understand it's a business but to take their greed to this level is wrong. They couldn't raise their prices on the bounty hunters as the customers already had a base line to compare it to with all the prior figures at $79. With the Wampa, customers have nothing to really compare it to other then the other 12" figures so they assumed correctly that some customers like you would assume it must have cost more then the rest of the line????? Why? Why would this figure cost more then the rest of the line? If they could tool and "develop" the other figures why would this one cost so much more? It's bigger, yes but only by about 50% (12" compared to "18) and the material they use to make these is VERY cheap so the size being bigger shouldn't have that much to do with price, if it did the Yoda would have been under $45 as it's less then half the size of the others. This is NOT the only thing they are doing this with in regards to raping customers. The most recent example is the SDCC Boba Fett bust. It's a regular size bust and the same as all the other $60 busts. GG called it an exclusive put it in a cheap tin (what would anyone do with or want a tin for???) added an extra arm and raised the price by MORE then double, to $150! Two and a half times the price of their other busts.....why? Because just like your logic.....it's a bounty hunter, Boba Fett and they figured people would buy it and people did. Until WE, the customers say enough is enough and stop buying these at "crazy" prices they will continue their ways. They look at it like this, they can sell 100 of these at a $250 profit for $25,000 rather then sell 1,000 at a $25 for the same $25,000. If those 100 people that keep thinking and saying they cost more to make, or whatever excuse they make stop buying them at these inflated prices GG would have to lower their prices and stop raising prices.

Kaneda_01
10-19-2013, 10:43 AM
Just my .02 cents... collectors are passionate about their collectibles which sometimes conflicts with the goals of a company such as Gentle Giant to deliver a quality product and remain profitable.

With that said... when GG's cost go up it will be passed to their customers just as in any business... It's just un-realistic to expect them to operate at a loss. Sure some folks in this thread can make assumptions regarding tooling and manufacturing costs, etc... what has been missing from the conversation is rising costs due to external factors that affect all Star Wars license holders.

For example... as a result of Disney’s acquisition of the Star Wars brand Hasbro recently was forced to extended their existing license for an additional $83 million and agreed to pay another $225 million to continue manufacturing figures until 2020! Where Hasbro can distribute the added increased costs across millions of figures they will manufacture over the next 7 years... Gentle Giant cannot... they just don’t have the economies of scale to manage costs when producing such a low numbers across their product SKUs.

So when we see GG charging higher prices for some of their products and lifting limited edition numbers... they are reacting to a changing cost structure. Sure we as customers can hope that companies in this situation optimize their operating and capital expenses to run leaner to keep prices flat... that's an un-realistic expectation for any business with the sheer cost of manufacturing licensed Star Wars products.

Unfortunately, Gentle Giant is a privately held company and they are not required to disclose their financials any how they operate their company. So sometimes that causes us collectors to get on a rant and speculate on why they are intentionally trying drive our business away... I personally believe that is the farthest from the truth and Gentle Giant is trying their best to responsibly run a business and keep happy customers.... and as this thread proves... can be a very slippery slope. Again just my .02! :O)

AussieFortuna
10-19-2013, 12:07 PM
Poor Gentle Giant......

LandoSkiff
10-19-2013, 12:52 PM
I tell you ladies and gents, I will be buying these in a few years for a song, just like the 12" Hasbro line. I am going to pick up one of these Wampas for under $100 in a few years, and I am going to pretend he is Bumble and put him out in front of the house with the Christmas lights.

Dutchskywalker
10-19-2013, 03:34 PM
what has been missing from the conversation is rising costs due to external factors that affect all Star Wars license holders.


Rogue1/ Greg Crafts (GG empolyee) posted in the past that the cost of the license was not that high as collectors assumed it to be.

Also GG had very high limited edition runs in the past (20.000 for ROTS Vader bust for example) they are now at an all time low.

SITH_DARTH_RAGE
10-19-2013, 03:37 PM
"Keep customers happy"???? Are you kidding me! Forget about tooling costs or license cost etc etc , they sell a regular 12" figure for $79 and make a handsome profit or they would have raised the price already. Now they are making an 18" figure in the same line produced the same way and charging five time the price. It's BS

Mighty_Jabba
10-19-2013, 03:44 PM
I think we've debunked the idea that licensing fees account for these price increases. Of course they're a part of the bigger puzzle. But if Gentle Giant is being crushed by licensing fees so much, why haven't all of the prices jumped like the wampa's? How come other licensees are capable of making Star Wars toys and collectibles so cheaply? Again, compare the Jakks Pacific 31" Vader for $30-$40 to the (smaller, simpler) Wampa. The main difference I can see is the number of units produced. I'm sure Jakks Pacific is making a lot more of these Vaders than GG will make Wampas, but still that doesn't explain why the Wampa is 10x the price.

Glitch
10-19-2013, 04:12 PM
Some of the damage control over the price in this topic is...amazing.

I can't speak for everyone, but it's not that those of us that have been collecting this line can't afford $400, we can. This isn't a cheap line to collect, but that's another issue altogether. This is more of a, "Oh, so that's how we are going to play" thing.

Personally, I would not have even purchased the Wampa at $200 because I don't really have any kind of emotional attachment to the piece like I do the standard carded figures, but I guess it's the thought that counts.

I was really down on this line with the oversized Blue Snaggletooth, but the beauty of the Death Star Droid and the Gamorrean pulled me back in. After this and the Bossk re-imagining within the span of a week....

Yeah.

xphillips
10-19-2013, 04:15 PM
As we go around and around in this discussion, I'd like to mention that through the years my ONE main complaint is that Gentle Giant doesn't communicate well with their fans/customers about these issues. MANY companies communicate very well with their customers through blogs, discussion boards, emails, etc. GG hasn't come on these Boards and said ANYTHING... We all know they are reading this stuff/complaints/frustrations/etc.

If a Gentle Giant rep came on this discussion board to at least HELP us understand their position toward the price of the Wampa (no they don't need to reveal all their financials, but just help us understand) I would have so much respect for them addressing concerns. BUT THEY DON'T... and never have given STRAIGHT answers. They are shrouded in mystery. Their business is making fewer and fewer items at higher and higher costs, with less and less communication. Come on GG, just answer some of our questions and concerns. Silence is killing you.

Kaneda_01
10-19-2013, 04:30 PM
my ONE main complaint is that Gentle Giant doesn't communicate well with their fans/customers about these issues.

Agreed... a little communication goes a long way. But, to your point... this has been a systemic problem with GG for a very long time. One of the reason I got out of collecting GG mini busts 7+ years ago. :(

Kevin_Lentz
10-20-2013, 07:51 PM
I'm not as tore up about this as some. As I think I mentioned above, the too-high price makes it an easy pass. Simple as that. I'm not losing any sleep. Gentle Giant's not getting my $400. Chances are, they're not losing any sleep either.

DarthMickeyMoose
10-20-2013, 09:46 PM
As we go around and around in this discussion, I'd like to mention that through the years my ONE main complaint is that Gentle Giant doesn't communicate well with their fans/customers about these issues. MANY companies communicate very well with their customers through blogs, discussion boards, emails, etc. GG hasn't come on these Boards and said ANYTHING... We all know they are reading this stuff/complaints/frustrations/etc.

If a Gentle Giant rep came on this discussion board to at least HELP us understand their position toward the price of the Wampa (no they don't need to reveal all their financials, but just help us understand) I would have so much respect for them addressing concerns. BUT THEY DON'T... and never have given STRAIGHT answers. They are shrouded in mystery. Their business is making fewer and fewer items at higher and higher costs, with less and less communication. Come on GG, just answer some of our questions and concerns. Silence is killing you.



They due show up on these boards but usually to say how Rare and limited something will be.(Funny but that's all!) The changing of the limited editions to no limits started with the Yoda. That and the yoda fiasco has never been explained by anyone. But for me they didn't have to. I figured it out on my own. It was easy. These Jumbo's were a neat idea , to bad they were handled all wrong.

ramy
10-21-2013, 08:25 AM
I'm not as tore up about this as some. As I think I mentioned above, the too-high price makes it an easy pass. Simple as that. I'm not losing any sleep. Gentle Giant's not getting my $400. Chances are, they're not losing any sleep either.

That's the way I feel. If it is too much then I don't buy it.

AaylaSecurasMan
10-21-2013, 09:14 PM
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMSESBVJGnPokqmlLdki7qX67SxgXgh 9DkA_tdbxu-x2qrzNM2qw = $40


How much is that Wampa???


You can actually get that Vader for $30 some places.


Yep, at Wally and Costco


You can actually get Vader for $25 now on sale at TRU. $400 for that rotocast chunk of plastic is outrageous. I will buy Chewie, T2, or Red Sonja PF from sideshow and will still have change left for that Vader.
They can keep it.


Totally. On top of this, its a unique sculpt, a more complicated paint job, has a more time consuming assembly (VERY important) and is injection molded (which requires VASTLY more expensive tooling.). Yes, I understand the Wampa is limited and the Vader is for mass production, but tooling for rotocast vinyl is extremely cheap and it's literally pennies for each casting.

I really wish someone other than GG was in charge of this line. They are really exploiting people's love for the vintage line. The price of the standard figures is bad enough, but this one is a real slap in the face.

You can get it for $15 now at wally :P

http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1097962/#post19258825

Mighty_Jabba
10-22-2013, 12:17 PM
Damn, I'd pick one up for $15. :) Walmart clearances are very YMMV though.

Ackbar254
10-22-2013, 12:43 PM
You can get it for $15 now at wally :P

http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1097962/#post19258825

Yeah, look at how fast they're selling too. Why should a company produce something at a loss?

Mighty_Jabba
10-22-2013, 04:36 PM
Good point. They should've priced them at $400...

Ackbar254
10-22-2013, 04:44 PM
Good point. They should've priced them at $400...

LMAO, that made my day. I don't have a dog in this fight but I'm not gonna knock GG for trying a higher price point.

GNT
10-23-2013, 06:07 AM
I'm not as tore up about this as some. As I think I mentioned above, the too-high price makes it an easy pass. Simple as that. I'm not losing any sleep. Gentle Giant's not getting my $400. Chances are, they're not losing any sleep either.

I'm thinking the best way forward is to collect all the figures that are individually carded, that rules out the Wampa and everyone can sleep at night :p