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GNT
09-09-2012, 09:33 PM
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Here's another thread in the "What Should Hasbro do" series, this time we'll look at Darth Vader. While Darth Vader has been done to death over the years have we seen every possible Vader released so far? Anything missing? Since we all no doubt have enough of him in the collection and no doubt we'll see more in the coming years what possible Vader releases would you like to see or/needs upgrading?

Discuss....

CadBane
09-09-2012, 11:47 PM
Dagobah Cave Vader(w/removable face plate that reveals Luke's face)

Trooper31
09-10-2012, 01:07 AM
I guess at this point the VC93 Vader has to be the deafult Vader for any release. Besides the Dagobah Vader, there isn't really anything left unless you make one that can specifically strangle and hold Capt. Antilles at the same time.

trandoshanhunter
09-10-2012, 03:56 PM
Dagobah Vader is really the only one that needs upgrading.

CadBane
09-10-2012, 09:54 PM
I guess at this point the VC93 Vader has to be the deafult Vader for any release. Besides the Dagobah Vader, there isn't really anything left unless you make one that can specifically strangle and hold Capt. Antilles at the same time.
I would like that vintage card to read Darth Vader(multi tasking homicidal).

Michael_Knight
09-11-2012, 02:56 AM
One like the SA Vader we just got but in ESB attire.

Spassvogel
09-11-2012, 03:41 AM
I just want a Star Wars (1977) accurate Vader. With a cape that's not made out of transparent cloth, able to drape over his shoulders, and a right hand that can tightly hold is saber. I don't think I'm asking too much.

Trooper31
09-11-2012, 05:27 AM
I just want a Star Wars (1977) accurate Vader. With a cape that's not made out of transparent cloth, able to drape over his shoulders, and a right hand that can tightly hold is saber. I don't think I'm asking too much.


Well, the first two were ok, but asking for a right hand that can actually hold the lightsaber is just going to far!!!

DarthJefe
09-11-2012, 09:11 PM
The Dagobah Spirit version is really the only one that needs an upgrade. Other than that, they can just keep bringing out VC93 when the mood suits them.

ZX3
09-11-2012, 09:11 PM
They should do an electronic sound effects version that does this:
Instant No Button! Star Wars funnies FTW! (http://nooooooooooooooo.com/)

DarkArtist
09-12-2012, 02:49 PM
Well let's see:

Recent Vader in Vintage collection is the best ANH Vader
Saga Hoth Vader was done (Vader with snow flecks on his armor)
POTJ gave us Dagobah Spirit (while not named Vader still it's Vader)
Vintage 2010 gave us Vader from ROTJ (offscreen moment)
Vintage 2007 gave us Vader from ROTJ (3 part mask)
2012/2013 gave us Lightsaber light up Vader
2012 Bespin Battlepack Vader (with beckoning action lol)
2005 gave us Build a Vader for ROTS
2008 gave us Vader gets the smack down from his apprentic Starkiller
2008 gave us vader the White in comic book form as well as strange concept Infinties Vader
2007 gave us McQuarrie Vader with nifty gun and coin to battle our McQuarrie Skywalker
and let's not forget the various vaders from all of the rest of the run by Hasbro (wha we are up to 25 + vaders at the moment I believe)

so with that being said unless they make an extremely accurate, superbly detailed, 100% spot on likeness of Vader with actually James Earl Jones voice dialogue from all 4 movies as well as realistic Vader breathing sounds etc.... then I think I'm good on Vader figures for awhile...

darthsatan
09-12-2012, 03:14 PM
Darth Vader - What Should They Do?
My answer? Never make another again. Ever.

Given that this is unrealistic as long as the line lasts for, the second choice would be to GET RID OF THE GODAWFUL SEE-THROUGH CAPES.

tanksmasher
09-12-2012, 05:30 PM
Dagobah Vader is the only one I'd care to see next.

Masterfett
09-13-2012, 10:25 PM
Darth Vader - What Should They Do?


My answer? Never make another again. Ever.

Given that this is unrealistic as long as the line lasts for, the second choice would be to GET RID OF THE GODAWFUL SEE-THROUGH CAPES.

I couldn't agree more!

Lt__Brenn_Tantor
09-13-2012, 11:48 PM
http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc06/sdcc06-HasbroQA/IMG_8188.JPG

They have been joking with the idea since 2006, then they show a prototype in 2009, last year they ask us: Should we make it? Let us know what you think.

http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc09/hasbro-sw/IMG_2707.JPG http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc09/hasbro-sw2/IMG_3812.JPG http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc09/hasbro-sw2/IMG_3813.JPG

http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/news/images2009b/FuneralDarthVaderNote.jpg
SDCC 2009 Hasbro Concept Darth Vader Funeral Pyre - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvzETlybgzw)

So if you ask me, this is what I want :).

medic62812
09-14-2012, 12:12 AM
http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc06/sdcc06-HasbroQA/IMG_8188.JPG

They have been joking with the idea since 2006, then they show a prototype in 2009, last year they ask us: Should we make it? Let us know what you think.

http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc09/hasbro-sw/IMG_2707.JPG http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc09/hasbro-sw2/IMG_3812.JPG http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc09/hasbro-sw2/IMG_3813.JPG

http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/news/images2009b/FuneralDarthVaderNote.jpg
SDCC 2009 Hasbro Concept Darth Vader Funeral Pyre - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvzETlybgzw)

So if you ask me, this is what I want :).


wait a minute, sounds???
is it gonna sizzle or something?


if they really make that, then they need to make "Uncle Owen, Aunt Beru, the extra crispy version"
and knowing Hasbro, we would get that before we get an updated ANH Owen&Beru.

Masterfett
09-15-2012, 03:54 PM
As cool as that looks, and would look in a dio.
I just have no interest in this item.

Waggy
09-15-2012, 05:42 PM
Have they made a Darth Vader with removable pieces reminiscent of his construction/incarnation in ROTS? This could include removable chest plates, legs, arms to reveal a charred/scarred flesh effect.

darthsatan
09-15-2012, 06:29 PM
^So you are new here? :grin:

Rebelscum.com: Photo Archive (http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS05dlxvader.asp)

darthsatan
09-15-2012, 06:30 PM
Damn you, no-edit feature!!!!

Rebelscum.com: Photo Archive (http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS0550anakin.asp)

Waggy
09-16-2012, 08:06 AM
Thanks for that. I don't think an updated version is necessary. Unless you try to source something from the EU. Remember that white Darth Vader? Unless they come up with new gimmicks, we might be seeing repacks.

DarkArtist
09-21-2012, 02:04 PM
would totally buy the Funeral Pyre Vader with the electronic Lights and sounds just to have one and hear the cracking and popping hissing flames.

Revanfan1
09-21-2012, 02:09 PM
This one's for you, FDOIRex!

Clone Vader. ;)

Waggy
09-21-2012, 03:46 PM
would totally buy the Funeral Pyre Vader with the electronic Lights and sounds just to have one and hear the cracking and popping hissing flames.

Why don't you just burn a real one? There's plenty of Vader figures to go around.

roto2
09-21-2012, 04:21 PM
I would like a Darth Vader with snow on the armour like he has been on Hoth, wouldnt it be great?

GNT
09-21-2012, 11:51 PM
would totally buy the Funeral Pyre Vader with the electronic Lights and sounds just to have one and hear the cracking and popping hissing flames.

I hope they make it one day, maybe for the 30th Anniversary of ROTJ perhaps? :p

roto2
09-22-2012, 06:30 AM
Why don't you just burn a real one? There's plenty of Vader figures to go around.

:disgusted: are you nuts?

DarkArtist
09-22-2012, 01:38 PM
I would like a Darth Vader with snow on the armour like he has been on Hoth, wouldnt it be great?

They released a Vader with white specs on his armor in the holo figures saga waves. It was awful!

Waggy
09-22-2012, 03:32 PM
I would like a Darth Vader with snow on the armour like he has been on Hoth, wouldnt it be great?

OR it could be that some birds loyal to the rebellion decided to **** on him.

GNT
09-23-2012, 02:13 AM
They released a Vader with white specs on his armor in the holo figures saga waves. It was awful!

Sounds like a very exciting figure - Vader with specs of white on his suit, seems very bottom of the barrel to me :p

Caas_Sandhri
09-23-2012, 06:34 AM
I would actually buy a Funeral Pyre Vader - I may also buy an upgraded just-before-operation crisp-Vader. If they set their mind on it, I would perhaps even buy a Vader-without-armor (just like the crisp one, but with healed skin and all limbs done as robotic protheses), even if that is really far out.

What I really don't want is another black armor Vader, no matter what scene it is from. The Dagobah one may be outdated but I don't exactly burn with the desire to get a new one, and all the others are done to death, up to the point where they try to sell a new one to us by virtue of a modified hand gesture. Gah!

I do believe that Vader sells best to the kiddies, as they claim. I have no problem with that. But they can easily re-release existing Vaders in that Movie Heroes series (or whatever their rehash line will be called) and not bother me with it in the main collectors oriented series. Or perhaps the 5-point articulation Vader, without wasting sculpting resources on new ones. I really can do for the rest of my life without ever buying another black armor Vader.

Waggy
09-23-2012, 07:37 AM
Actually, the funeral pyre figure would not be 'Darth Vader' at all but rather Anakin Skywalker as he had at that point redeemed himself and regained his humanity.

Discuss.

Caas_Sandhri
09-23-2012, 09:26 AM
Actually, the funeral pyre figure would not be 'Darth Vader' at all but rather Anakin Skywalker as he had at that point redeemed himself and regained his humanity.

Discuss.

Rather not :whistling:

Let's call it "The burning corpse of the guy that was known as Darth Vader while he was the Emperor's apprentice and who was born as Anakin Skywalker". I'll unpack it anyway.

Waggy
09-23-2012, 11:14 AM
Rather not :whistling:

Let's call it "The burning corpse of the guy that was known as Darth Vader while he was the Emperor's apprentice and who was born as Anakin Skywalker". I'll unpack it anyway.

A sort of 'born again' Jedi then?

Anyway, I think I am correct on technical grounds. When did Darth Vader stop becoming Darth Vader? When he threw the Emperor down the pit and the janitor had to mop him up.

In fact, Anakin returns as the 'ghost' on Endor as a farewell to Luke. Thus, signifying that Darth became a Jedi again.

DarkArtist
09-24-2012, 01:21 PM
Regardless of whether Vader was Vader at the time or Anakin.... how about we just call it Funeral Pyre for a Jedi and include the pyre and Vintage DS II Luke Skywalker, torch, electronic flames and sounds and include a figure that looks like Vader but really isn't Vader according to the film at this time in the picture but can be used as Vader if the person who buys the set so decides.... :P

Waggy
09-24-2012, 02:48 PM
Regardless of whether Vader was Vader at the time or Anakin.... how about we just call it Funeral Pyre for a Jedi and include the pyre and Vintage DS II Luke Skywalker, torch, electronic flames and sounds and include a figure that looks like Vader but really isn't Vader according to the film at this time in the picture but can be used as Vader if the person who buys the set so decides.... :P

Done and dusted! :D

Obi_Wan_Kaboozie
09-26-2012, 02:55 AM
For anyone who thinks Vader is done, I would urge that person to act out the climactic moment in RoTJ where Vader has his right hand, clutching lightsaber, chopped off.

Unless I'm overlooking something, not since freakin' Power of the Force.

Tyranusspotting
09-26-2012, 05:59 AM
There's one version of Darth Vader they've never given the SA treatment:

Revenge of the Sith
http://www.ncsx.com/2006/020606/Friday/darth_vader_ros_w.jpg


The helmet and armour looks unlike any of the other versions of the suit. The ROTS helmet was based on either the Empire or Jedi version, but they made the face symmetrical for the first time, which was a huge undertaking.

Not to mention, and this is probably the most unique thing about that movie's suit, is the solid shoulder armour.
If they someday finally make this figure, I really hope they will stay true to the design and sculpt it as a solid piece, as preventing as that may be for some duel poses. It's just about getting the look right.

The most iconic pose he took in that movie was when he crossed his arms aboard on the command bridge, looking at the Death Star being constructed. The wrists would have to be ball-hinged to pull that off, which would in return increase the saber holding possibilities to make up for the somewhat restricted shoulder movements.

Ideally, the figure would come with two heads, like TCW Obi Wan. One solid helmet, one Anakin Skywalker head with freshly burnt skin and Sith eyes. All those things would attribute to a never before done version of the character, with brand new features no less.

Tyranusspotting
09-26-2012, 06:07 AM
I forgot to add another version I'd really like to see someday:
An electronic version of either the TESB or ROTJ suit, with a light-up chest control panel, that can not only play his iconic breathing sound effect, memorable pieces of dialogue as well as a couple of Lightsaber igniting and swinging sound effects. Seeing how the recent R2 was capable of playing around 30 short soundbites, surely they can put at least 15 longer ones in him.

He'd easily sell like hot cakes and could be kept in constant rotation for years to come.

Maynard
09-26-2012, 07:02 AM
Only one Vader left to make I would ever buy. A TVC #93 sculpt, with ball-jointed torso, and a hole for the saber hilt to hang.
Also---someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but in almost all the old publicity photos I've seen of Vader, I would always notice that it stood out to me that he was the only person w/a saber (that I know of), that had his saber hilt hanging upside down from his belt----meaning that the blade emitter end was facing up rather than towards the ground (very dangerous, I would think, but that has always been in the back of my mind). Does anybody else remember this, or have any pics(I can't find any at the time)? If this is in fact true, I would love to see a Vader with not only the peg hole, but the peg on the upper end of the hilt in order to carry it that way.

Any thoughts, pics, or anyone else recall this?

Maynard
09-26-2012, 07:10 AM
Sorry for the back to to back posts, but here ya go!! Found exactly what I was talking about. Take a peek at the hilt hanging:

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/thumbs/darthvader_detail.png (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/darthvader_detail.png)

Maynard
09-26-2012, 07:21 AM
Ugh, curse this inability to to be able to edit our own posts!! But anyhow......

Yeah TVC#93 Vader, along with a ball-jointed so, the hole for the hilt along with the peg at opposite end of the hilt(up by wher the blade comes out), and almost forgot, would love to ball-hinged wrists on it to. That would be the only Vader left that Hasbro cold conceivably make that I would drop $10 bucks on.

I would also purchase a funeral pyre Vader, but I consider that more of a Battlepack/diorama type thing than just a simple $10 figure, thus I'm not counting that.

Any other type of Vader, I either already bought, already made, or can make of needed. That's the end of my Vader story.

Maynard
09-26-2012, 07:23 AM
Ugh, curse this inability to not be able to edit our own posts!! But anyhow......

Yeah TVC#93 Vader, along with a ball-jointed torso, the hole for the hilt along with the peg at opposite end of the hilt(up by where the blade comes out), and almost forgot, would love to ball-hinged wrists on it too. That would be the only Vader left that Hasbro cold conceivably make that I would drop $10 bucks on.

I would also purchase a funeral pyre Vader, but I consider that more of a Battlepack/diorama type thing than just a simple $10 figure, thus I'm not counting that.

Any other type of Vader, I either already bought, already made, or can make of needed. That's the end of my Vader story.

Evergrey
09-27-2012, 12:38 AM
what should they do ... use that Emperors Wrath Figure
Vader Helmet on all their upcoming Vader figures :p ...

Tyranusspotting
09-27-2012, 07:30 AM
^ So are you definitely sure by now they used your sculpt?
If yes, awesome! I've been hoping a customizer would have painted that translucent, lightning-struck helmet by now, just to see how the detail would look in regular solid black. But seeing how I'm already familiar with your uploaded pictures kind of showed me that, way before Hasbro showed off their figure.

DarkArtist
09-27-2012, 02:28 PM
ok so this might sound kinda lame and may even get alot of flak but here goes:

if they were to give us yet another Vader figure I think I would kinda like to see perhaps a vader figure where you pull the helmet off and you get perhaps a head sculpt of James Earl Jones. and in the cardback are different heads like Sebastian Shaw, Hayden Christianson, and David Prowse. this way you can display you Vader action figure with whatever head you wanted.

GAdmiralThrawn
09-27-2012, 02:46 PM
Do we need another Vader?

AaylaSecurasMan
09-27-2012, 03:40 PM
Repack lipstick Vader!! :disgusted: :wtf:

http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC/OTCholidayVadercard_front.jpg

Waggy
09-27-2012, 03:57 PM
Do we need another Vader?

say whaaaaaaaaaaat???????????? :disgusted:

Jedi_073
09-27-2012, 04:13 PM
What shold they do? Don't do anymore Vaders for a good while.

DarkArtist
09-28-2012, 09:21 AM
Repack lipstick Vader!! :disgusted: :wtf:

http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC/OTCholidayVadercard_front.jpg

haha.... :) this is the only Holiday figure that I didn't get as it was insanly ridiculous. i really wish that they just gave us a Vader with a Santa hat holding a present for Luke. that would have been awesome. I think this Vader and the Target exclusive Lava Reflection Vader are the only 2 I'm actually missing from my Vader collection.

DagMarus
09-28-2012, 12:31 PM
I just want to see them get the helmet right. That hasn't really happened yet. It always looks a little off..

VintijDroidGutzz
09-28-2012, 01:01 PM
Among the other obvious improvements, I think Hasbro's Vaders still need more girth to their build.

Tyranusspotting
09-28-2012, 04:19 PM
True.

And ball-hinged wrists would make for a nice and useful standard feature on him as well.
Those usually blend in pretty well on gloved/ amor wearing characters.

Maynard
09-28-2012, 06:19 PM
True.

And ball-hinged wrists would make for a nice and useful standard feature on him as well.
Those usually blend in pretty well on gloved/ amor wearing characters.


I agree. And how about the ball-jointed torso and proper hilt placement, as shown above?

Vorax
09-30-2012, 03:40 PM
No more Vader's, Luke's, Han's, Kenobi's, Palpatine's ect. They need to concentrate on un-made characters, wont happen though,lol.

CadBane
09-30-2012, 09:14 PM
An updated burnt Darth Vader would be cool.

Krayt
10-01-2012, 12:03 PM
updated burnt but also update the operating table one as well
I have both and think they could do a better job

DarkArtist
10-02-2012, 02:31 PM
No more Vader's, Luke's, Han's, Kenobi's, Palpatine's ect. They need to concentrate on un-made characters, wont happen though,lol.

sadly will never happen. Hasbro needs to constantly release core characters in order to ensure that the line will continue to sell... most kids do not read EU and would not know the few seconds of screen time characters.


updated burnt but also update the operating table one as well
I have both and think they could do a better job

would love to see Hasbro tackle the ROTS Burnt Annie / Vader with Operating Table again. while i loved the first version I would drop $$ for an updated version. I remember being so excited when my wife found the single carded Burnt Vader figure at Walmart. she got me 2 so that i could display him both as Vader and crispy Vader.....

CaptainC
10-04-2012, 09:41 PM
ROTJ dying unmasked Vader with proper scars on his face and head along with a detachable hand.

nyknight1313
10-04-2012, 10:39 PM
How about a deluxe figure of Darth Vader with Medical Capsule from Episode III?

Krayt
10-04-2012, 10:50 PM
Ummm Vader has a nice run in the movies and all, but I think it's time they killed off his character

nyknight1313
10-05-2012, 12:10 AM
They did kill off his character, didn't you see Return of the Jedi?

Krayt
10-05-2012, 10:57 AM
They did kill off his character, didn't you see Return of the Jedi?

Huh, really.. I always thought Vader lived on.. :P

Waggy
10-05-2012, 01:03 PM
Huh, really.. I always thought Vader lived on.. :P

As a Jedi Spirit and in plastic form (thanks Hasbro).

VintijDroidGutzz
10-05-2012, 01:45 PM
Ummm Vader has a nice run in the movies and all, but I think it's time they killed off his character
I think it's time you went & stood in the corner.

Krayt
10-05-2012, 01:56 PM
I think it's time you went & stood in the corner.

Oh come on.. it's no fun in the corner, I just got out of it

VintijDroidGutzz
10-05-2012, 02:26 PM
Haha.. just kidding dude. ;)

CadBane
10-05-2012, 03:44 PM
I want Darth Vader with light up chest panel and has a motion sensor that whenever anything gets close to him he starts to breathe.

Oh and he should come with an interchangeable hand that can choke Captain Antilles.

Waggy
10-05-2012, 05:46 PM
Did they ever re-release the telescoping Darth Vader?

Masterfett
10-06-2012, 02:42 PM
Give it a few ore years and GL will probably change ROTJ so that Vader lives, and ends up training his Grandkids.

PizzatheHut
10-06-2012, 02:56 PM
I would like to see Vader from end of ROTJ, removable helmet, Sebastian Shaw head, & severed right hand. That figure has never been produced, so far.

GNT
10-07-2012, 04:32 AM
I would like to see Vader from end of ROTJ, removable helmet, Sebastian Shaw head, & severed right hand. That figure has never been produced, so far.

Strange, I thought they had released that version at least once (http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2vaderremhelmet.asp) unless I'm missing something.

PizzatheHut
10-07-2012, 08:16 AM
You're right, but I have forgotton about most POTF2 figures. So I'll be more specific.

I wold like to see a Darth Vader with double cloth cape, three-piece removeable helmet and severed right hand with exposed wires. Maybe I'll just customize one for myself.

Waggy
10-07-2012, 08:59 AM
Darth Vader Halloween Edition! Oh, wait a minute...:weeabooface:

Krayt
10-07-2012, 10:47 AM
I would like to see Vader from end of ROTJ, removable helmet, Sebastian Shaw head, & severed right hand. That figure has never been produced, so far.

The latest Vader has the severed right hand and is a great figure, they just need to make the helmet removable.
I am actually surprised how much I like that figure. Just wish there was more skull showing the helmet effect they were trying to do

DarkArtist
10-15-2012, 11:03 AM
Darth Vader Halloween Edition! Oh, wait a minute...:weeabooface:


haha lol... they could paint him with Orange highlights and give him a candy corn colored lightsaber, and perhaps a pumpkin trick or treat pale..... or better yet perhaps make a Darth Vader with a classic Rubies plastic Luke Skywalker costume on over his armor ! that would be too much... lol

DarkArtist
10-15-2012, 11:06 AM
Give it a few ore years and GL will probably change ROTJ so that Vader lives, and ends up training his Grandkids.


i actually had an idea for something along these lines but rather instead of the end of Jedi I made it where perhaps Anakin never turned to the Dark Side and actually stood with the Jedi and battled Palpatine. I actually can see Anakin training a young Luke and Leia while Padme and Obi Wan look on. almost like a what if type of image.

CadBane
10-15-2012, 06:59 PM
Re-make the Holiday Darth Vader. Maybe re-release White Vader.

DarkArtist
10-16-2012, 09:55 AM
Re-make the Holiday Darth Vader. Maybe re-release White Vader.


complete redo of Holiday Vader I would love to see.... I can pass on the White vader though. the only other Vader I can possible see wanting Hasbro to make would be a Splinter of the Mind's Eye Vader as i believe either Luke or Leia actually severe Vader's right arm completely off.

Richard_Grayson
10-23-2012, 03:44 PM
I want the 3-stage helmeted Sebastian Shaw head with swivel/hinge hips. And throw in a swappable severed right forearm for good measure!

DarkArtist
10-25-2012, 07:43 AM
I want the 3-stage helmeted Sebastian Shaw head with swivel/hinge hips. And throw in a swappable severed right forearm for good measure!


this is almost a reality already if you take the 2010 Vintage Vader which has the 3 stage helmet. i mean the head sculpt is clearly Christianson but the helmet is at least 3 stages. i don't think we will ever see a Shaw head sculpt due to Lucas changing ROTJ.

Tyranusspotting
10-25-2012, 08:55 AM
this is almost a reality already if you take the 2010 Vintage Vader which has the 3 stage helmet. i mean the head sculpt is clearly Christianson but the helmet is at least 3 stages. i don't think we will ever see a Shaw head sculpt due to Lucas changing ROTJ.

What are you and Richard_Grason talking about? The last two removable helmet Vaders had Shaw's likeness.
In fact, only the TAC ANH Vader had Christensen's out of all the OT versions to date.

Richard_Grayson
10-25-2012, 09:40 AM
What are you and Richard_Grason talking about? The last two removable helmet Vaders had Shaw's likeness.
In fact, only the TAC ANH Vader had Christensen's out of all the OT versions to date.

Yeah, the 2010 TVC 3-stage helmet Vader was Shaw underneath. Now if they'd marry that to swivel-hinge legs (like from TVC ANH Vader from this year, assuming they can attach without looking kit-bashed) then I'd pick that up.

DarkArtist
10-26-2012, 08:40 AM
What are you and Richard_Grason talking about? The last two removable helmet Vaders had Shaw's likeness.
In fact, only the TAC ANH Vader had Christensen's out of all the OT versions to date.

i'd have to check but I could have sworn that all the head sculpts were that of Hayden and not Shaw. I've been wrong before so I have no problem admitting it if I am.

Choi
10-26-2012, 08:49 AM
What are you and Richard_Grason talking about? The last two removable helmet Vaders had Shaw's likeness.
In fact, only the TAC ANH Vader had Christensen's out of all the OT versions to date.
-Personally, I don't care as much about which head is under the helmet, just that we get a proper Shaw Anakin. They could even do it with swappable heads, or as a varient (though Hasbro isn't to fond of SW varients at the moment)

Richard_Grayson
10-26-2012, 09:14 AM
i'd have to check but I could have sworn that all the head sculpts were that of Hayden and not Shaw. I've been wrong before so I have no problem admitting it if I am.

You are, sorry.o-o Tyranusspotting is right, only the TAC Vader that came with the base made of Obi-Wan's robes had Christensen underneath.

DarthJefe
10-26-2012, 10:22 PM
The only Vader still left to update is the Dagobah spirit version.

Nicklab
10-28-2012, 05:26 AM
An updated Dagobah Force spirit Vader is a natural to get updated.

A holographic Darth Vader would be different. We did see Vader as a hologram during the Battle of Hoth as General Veers was giving him a tactical update.

But I'd also offer that a decent version of Vader from the operating table in REVENGE OF THE SITH seems due. We got the Deluxe ROTS Vader & operating table in 2005, but that figure was kind of weak. A more accurate face sculpt would be the starting point. But this also deserves to be a well done figure. ROTS Vader is a little bit different from OT Vader, as the mask & armor aren't quite as dinged up.

JediMerc
10-28-2012, 04:13 PM
It would be nice to see Hasbro do a Vader with swappable forearms so that one set can be used to "stand and grip his belt" like in the scenes on the Star Destroyers/Executor in EpV. The other set of forearms should be some cool force-push/light saber grip/etc. hands.

This is the best I can come up with that isn't some attempt at EU (not that any EU version would be much different).

Oddball_Fett
10-28-2012, 05:19 PM
I would just like an SA Vader, with ball-joint neck, hips, and wrists a-la deleted scene Luke. The wrists shouldn't look too bad with them being black. Soft goods would hide the hips while retaining articulation. Soft goods on the chest armour instead of the moulded versions, this has been done before. And has there ever been a ball-jointed Vader head before? To keep the helmet accurate, forget about removable helmet pieces. Just make three heads.

VornJithco
10-28-2012, 08:52 PM
as far as I'm concerned, I think Vader is DONE!!

VC93 is as close to perfection as I could hope for A New Hope edition.

VC08... really damn good for a ROTJ Vader... could be tweaked a bit (parts of his chest plate were mistakingly painted red)

VC115... the helmet effect and chopped off hand... nicely done

and the forthcoming Bespin arrival Vader

the 04 VOTC Vader had a ball jointed head... really well done too... the rest of the figure has certainly been improved upon, but the ball jointed head still looks really good

Lord_Atmo
10-31-2012, 01:29 PM
VC93 raised the bar for the other Vaders. I'd love to see ESB and ROTJ Vaders with BH hips too

Michael_Knight
10-31-2012, 03:42 PM
^Totally agree!

Richard_Grayson
11-01-2012, 08:51 PM
VC93 raised the bar for the other Vaders. I'd love to see ESB and ROTJ Vaders with BH hips too

Yes!!! :grin: With a 3-stage removable helmet with a peg-hole sized so I can switch the heads back and forth with my new VC115!!!

Lord_Atmo
11-04-2012, 11:54 AM
definitely agreed on that!

Richard_Grayson
08-26-2013, 03:26 PM
Yes!!! :grin: With a 3-stage removable helmet with a peg-hole sized so I can switch the heads back and forth with my new VC115!!!

Nine months later.. I still want this.

Droidworld
08-26-2013, 05:18 PM
I would like to see Vader painted. In the films, his mask is actually two-toned. Dark metallic gray and gloss black. It was done so the details would read on camera, but I'd still like a figure with ANH paint scheme.

Anh Vader face paint scheme (http://www.therpf.com/f9/anh-vader-face-paint-scheme-52841/)

Maynard
09-08-2013, 10:25 AM
I want to apologize in advance, as this isn't necessarily a "What should they do w/Vader" response, but more of a "What should they do with any/all figures in the future?" . I hope no one minds too much. If so, please accept my apologies once again.

1)WRISTS: I can't wait till Hasbro grows out of this whole awkward wrist articulation phase--where they have one wrist go up&down and the other wrist go left&right. Either tht, or we just get a plain old swivel wrist.
How about what they do w/Yoda's wrists sometimes, where its just a ball joint (like head on the neck-ball)? I think they may have done that on a Clone Wars figure or 2 but I forget. Does it just not look right or.......what?
Even w/out using just a ball-joint, there has got to be a way that Hasbro engineers can figure out a solution to this issue, no?

2)FEET: Ive always been a proponent of having "mid-foot articulation". I've seen it on some other lines(can't recall which), but it looks great for running poses, especially with clones, Jedi, Sith, etc. Also, it seems extremely easy to keep very well hidden(especially on the boots of clones, Imperial Troops, etc)

3)Hands/Fingers: I believe Sideshow has done this with some of their larger scaled figures(or not, I could be dreaming or thinking of something else I saw), but it would be really cool to see a figure's hands be able to turn into a clenched fist from the generic open-hand pose that most figures come with. They could do maybe just a mid-hand joint(similar to the mid-foot, but much smaller and with much more range of flexibility so that it could close fully into a fist). Besides that, I thought maybe the solo trigger finger could be articulated, somehow? Or is this too small a scale to make that happen?

4)WAISTS: Lastly, and actually the least of my "wants". Truthfully, this is actually an idea/question/whatever more than a "should be done", but anyhow..........
I was always curious as to whether its possible to use BOTH a swivel waist and a b-j torso on a 3-3/4" figure. I just think that may add a little more pose ability to the figures. Or is it simply not possible on this small of a scale with all the parts etc?


Thoughts on any of these? I'd love to hear people's opinions on these, whether it be for or against.



PS---TO ANY MODS READING THIS: In actuality, I think that this may be a pretty darn good topic to start a totally separate post on of it's own. It could be titled something like "Where Does Articulation In The 3-3/4" Line Go From Here?", or "Have We Hit The End Of The Articulation Evolution?", etc etc, or something of that sort.

Richard_Grayson
09-09-2013, 09:43 AM
I want to apologize in advance, as this isn't necessarily a "What should they do w/Vader" response, but more of a "What should they do with any/all figures in the future?" . I hope no one minds too much. If so, please accept my apologies once again.

1)WRISTS: I can't wait till Hasbro grows out of this whole awkward wrist articulation phase--where they have one wrist go up&down and the other wrist go left&right. Either tht, or we just get a plain old swivel wrist.
How about what they do w/Yoda's wrists sometimes, where its just a ball joint (like head on the neck-ball)? I think they may have done that on a Clone Wars figure or 2 but I forget. Does it just not look right or.......what?
Even w/out using just a ball-joint, there has got to be a way that Hasbro engineers can figure out a solution to this issue, no?

2)FEET: Ive always been a proponent of having "mid-foot articulation". I've seen it on some other lines(can't recall which), but it looks great for running poses, especially with clones, Jedi, Sith, etc. Also, it seems extremely easy to keep very well hidden(especially on the boots of clones, Imperial Troops, etc)

3)Hands/Fingers: I believe Sideshow has done this with some of their larger scaled figures(or not, I could be dreaming or thinking of something else I saw), but it would be really cool to see a figure's hands be able to turn into a clenched fist from the generic open-hand pose that most figures come with. They could do maybe just a mid-hand joint(similar to the mid-foot, but much smaller and with much more range of flexibility so that it could close fully into a fist). Besides that, I thought maybe the solo trigger finger could be articulated, somehow? Or is this too small a scale to make that happen?

4)WAISTS: Lastly, and actually the least of my "wants". Truthfully, this is actually an idea/question/whatever more than a "should be done", but anyhow..........
I was always curious as to whether its possible to use BOTH a swivel waist and a b-j torso on a 3-3/4" figure. I just think that may add a little more pose ability to the figures. Or is it simply not possible on this small of a scale with all the parts etc?


Thoughts on any of these? I'd love to hear people's opinions on these, whether it be for or against.



PS---TO ANY MODS READING THIS: In actuality, I think that this may be a pretty darn good topic to start a totally separate post on of it's own. It could be titled something like "Where Does Articulation In The 3-3/4" Line Go From Here?", or "Have We Hit The End Of The Articulation Evolution?", etc etc, or something of that sort.

Regarding #4, several of the 3.75" Marvel Universe figures do indeed have both a swivel waist and a balljoint torso, so it's possible at this scale, I'm just not sure it's necessary. And actually, Star Wars figs are a little smaller than MU ones, so that might make a difference.

I don't see the fingers or mid-foot happening at this scale though, the joints would be just too tiny.

Masterfett
09-09-2013, 12:41 PM
I want to apologize in advance, as this isn't necessarily a "What should they do w/Vader" response, but more of a "What should they do with any/all figures in the future?"
Personally I wouldn't mind if he went on Hiatus! Both him and Anakin!:grin:


That aside, if they do tackle Vader again. He should at least have a BH wrist on his Saber hand!
I dislike mid foot articulation, it looks odd and out of place. I also feel swivel waist is just fine, there's no need to have BH torso joint IMO.

These figures have a tooling budget, and unless you want then to increase in price to accommodate the added SA/extra accessories. They are pretty much at their limit.

Doop
10-06-2013, 03:19 PM
Personally I wouldn't mind if he went on Hiatus! Both him and Anakin!:grin:


That aside, if they do tackle Vader again. He should at least have a BH wrist on his Saber hand!
I dislike mid foot articulation, it looks odd and out of place. I also feel swivel waist is just fine, there's no need to have BH torso joint IMO.

These figures have a tooling budget, and unless you want then to increase in price to accommodate the added SA/extra accessories. They are pretty much at their limit.
Don't forget ROTS Obi-Wan, he should go on hiatus too.