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Trooper31
12-06-2011, 04:56 AM
Very true. I'd buy most of them though.

Rune_Haako
12-06-2011, 12:30 PM
Trouble is they hate some of the top five figures *cough*Jocasta Nu*cough* ;)

Yeah, I think it actually should be called Hasbro's Choice.

padmesghost
12-06-2011, 02:05 PM
I have a friend in the publishing world and all I can say is that I am building a diorama of the Jedi Archives.

theforcemonkey
12-06-2011, 07:28 PM
Same. I am not interested in Cadeus or Jaxxon but I would buy both if it meant Jocasta and Plagueis.

Fixed that for you. Of course, I voted Jocasta.

bigbarada
12-06-2011, 08:18 PM
Fixed that for you. Of course, I voted Jocasta.

Why would you change his post? So he doesn't want a Jocasta Nu action figure, what business is that of yours and why does it give you the right to put words in his mouth? It's about as logical as me doing this:


Of course, I voted for the Nikto Guard.

And then following it up with:

"Fixed that for you."

But I guess Jocasta Nu fans are accustomed to using shady and dishonest tactics to get her to place highly in these polls. It's really the only explanation for why she placed second in the last Fans' Choice poll.

darth_sidious
12-06-2011, 08:35 PM
But I guess Jocasta Nu fans are accustomed to using shady and dishonest tactics to get her to place highly in these polls. It's really the only explanation for why she placed second in the last Fans' Choice poll.

Its complete BS to make an unfounded statement like that - you should know better. There has never been proof of anyone doing anything of the sort. Thats a baseless accusation against an entire group of fans. If you have some proof, by all means show us - otherwise this is trolling.

GNT
12-06-2011, 08:52 PM
But I guess Jocasta Nu fans are accustomed to using shady and dishonest tactics to get her to place highly in these polls. It's really the only explanation for why she placed second in the last Fans' Choice poll.

The only reason fans want her is because she's a Jedi, had a speaking role in the actual film and played a small action role in the clone wars show and lastly because Hasbro continues to deny us the right to seeing her in plastic form. I'd also like to have all Australians in AOTC and ROTS in plastic form as well.

Agen_Kolar
12-06-2011, 09:08 PM
But I guess Jocasta Nu fans are accustomed to using shady and dishonest tactics to get her to place highly in these polls. It's really the only explanation for why she placed second in the last Fans' Choice poll.

Anytime Hasbro says they will not make a character in action figure form, the fans rally against them and ensure they eat their words. That's exactly what happened here.

bigbarada
12-06-2011, 09:32 PM
Its complete BS to make an unfounded statement like that - you should know better. There has never been proof of anyone doing anything of the sort. Thats a baseless accusation against an entire group of fans. If you have some proof, by all means show us - otherwise this is trolling.

Just my opinion on what happened based on what I've seen on other forums. Primarily new accounts popping up out of nowhere, voicing their unanimous support for Jocasta Nu, then disappearing and never posting again once the nominations process was over. I have a hard time believing that was NOT people logging on with multiple accounts in order to stuff the ballot box in favor of Jocasta Nu.

Anyways, it wasn't meant to be a accusation of ALL Jocasta Nu fans. I thought that would be clear. I was simply annoyed at theforcemonkey's tactic of changing krabkin's post to make it look like he supported Jocasta when he clearly didn't. But I guess that's okay since that "trolling" was in favor of Jocasta Nu, huh?

bigbarada
12-06-2011, 09:34 PM
Anytime Hasbro says they will not make a character in action figure form, the fans rally against them and ensure they eat their words. That's exactly what happened here.

I get that, but I still don't think it accounts for her placing 2nd in that poll. Plus, there was no way to prevent multiple votes using multiple email addresses, so it's not a truly accurate assessment of fans' interests.

darth_sidious
12-06-2011, 10:00 PM
Just my opinion on what happened based on what I've seen on other forums. Primarily new accounts popping up out of nowhere, voicing their unanimous support for Jocasta Nu, then disappearing and never posting again once the nominations process was over. I have a hard time believing that was NOT people logging on with multiple accounts in order to stuff the ballot box in favor of Jocasta Nu.

Anyways, it wasn't meant to be a accusation of ALL Jocasta Nu fans. I thought that would be clear. I was simply annoyed at theforcemonkey's tactic of changing krabkin's post to make it look like he supported Jocasta when he clearly didn't. But I guess that's okay since that "trolling" was in favor of Jocasta Nu, huh?

Like I mentioned to you already, an opinion is fine, they are encouraged - making accusations of wrongdoing is not. You accused a whole group of people of using "shady and dishonest tactics to get her to place highly" - unless you have proof, you are defaming an entire group of people. Its not my personal opinion or unfair treatment of you - had anyone else made that statement or one with baseless accusations, I'd call them out in a second...

I actually sent you a PM so that you'd hopefully realize what a big error this was on your part. I have nothing against you or people that dont like a certain character, that would be pointless and petty - I enforce the rules whenever I see them broken. As a matter of fact - I also already contacted the user that altered the quote, because that shouldnt be done either. Trolling from anyone is a violation of the rules - but its even worse when making accusations like that - hopefully you see that now.

theforcemonkey
12-06-2011, 11:31 PM
Just my opinion on what happened based on what I've seen on other forums. Primarily new accounts popping up out of nowhere, voicing their unanimous support for Jocasta Nu, then disappearing and never posting again once the nominations process was over. I have a hard time believing that was NOT people logging on with multiple accounts in order to stuff the ballot box in favor of Jocasta Nu.

Anyways, it wasn't meant to be a accusation of ALL Jocasta Nu fans. I thought that would be clear. I was simply annoyed at theforcemonkey's tactic of changing krabkin's post to make it look like he supported Jocasta when he clearly didn't. But I guess that's okay since that "trolling" was in favor of Jocasta Nu, huh?

Dude, obviously a joke. While I will grant your post count is higher than mine, I've been here longer. Chill, man. Chill.

quinlanvos21
12-07-2011, 11:04 AM
Seeing that there were three episode 2 characters in the mix I don't see why hasbro just cant make them next year for the episode 2 release. It makes perfect sense and would be smart but god we know they aren't smart by any means this past year so knowing them they will probably have no new characters and only repacks and retools. They already hinted in one of the q and as this week that there may not even be any new ships for episode 2 next year.

bigbarada
12-07-2011, 11:16 AM
Like I mentioned to you already, an opinion is fine, they are encouraged - making accusations of wrongdoing is not. You accused a whole group of people of using "shady and dishonest tactics to get her to place highly" - unless you have proof, you are defaming an entire group of people. Its not my personal opinion or unfair treatment of you - had anyone else made that statement or one with baseless accusations, I'd call them out in a second...

I actually sent you a PM so that you'd hopefully realize what a big error this was on your part. I have nothing against you or people that dont like a certain character, that would be pointless and petty - I enforce the rules whenever I see them broken. As a matter of fact - I also already contacted the user that altered the quote, because that shouldnt be done either. Trolling from anyone is a violation of the rules - but its even worse when making accusations like that - hopefully you see that now.

Fair enough, I assumed that you were singling me out and obviously I was wrong. So I apologize to anyone who might have been offended by my remarks. It was an unwarranted blanket statement and I should know better.

bigbarada
12-07-2011, 11:17 AM
Dude, obviously a joke. While I will grant your post count is higher than mine, I've been here longer. Chill, man. Chill.

What does post count have to do with anything? I could care less if you have 10,000 posts and I have only one, I still think it is a messed up thing to do.

darth_sidious
12-07-2011, 11:51 AM
Fair enough, I assumed that you were singling me out and obviously I was wrong. So I apologize to anyone who might have been offended by my remarks. It was an unwarranted blanket statement and I should know better.

Its big of you to say that - I hope that anyone that was offended accepts the apology. Likewise, from this point on, I think we all can have civil discussions about these topics without attacking a specific group or any individual's opinions.

Daigo_Bah
12-07-2011, 11:58 AM
I don't have high hopes that Mosep will be the winner- that's who I voted for- but I would be thrilled. We'd get a familiar, though obscure, cantina patron (a second one with the same outfit but slightly different facial hair could be used in cantina dios too), and is custom fodder with the red-colored Imperial DS Trooper outfit on the streets of Mos Eisley. Maybe he'll place high enough to get on the production radar...

krabkin
12-07-2011, 01:09 PM
I would love to see Mosep too! Didn't get my vote, but would be awesome.

ReverendStrone
12-07-2011, 03:00 PM
I think there could be quite a split vote among some of the similar OT candidates, considering there are so many, so it wouldn't surprise me if someone like Plagueis or even Jocasta wins as they could rise above their fellows by sheer virtue of campaign exposure and novelty drawing votes to them. In any case, I'd be curious to see if Hasbro actually posts the numbers and rankings when they do their reveal at TF.

theforcemonkey
12-07-2011, 03:45 PM
What does post count have to do with anything? I could care less if you have 10,000 posts and I have only one, I still think it is a messed up thing to do.

Your evidence for your accusation was new accounts popping up only to spread their love of a figure - I was pointing out that my account is obviously not new. It was a joke, and the messed up thing is that it got so blown out of proportion.

krabkin
12-07-2011, 04:04 PM
That's definitely possible. I also wonder if some people figure some of the figures will be made regardless and therefore don't vote for them. I'm a little worried Throne Emperor will win since I assume Hasbro would make him anyway for the ROTJ 30th or when the ROTJ 3D movie is released, thus robbing us of a chance to get a different figure created.

StarWarsMonsters
12-07-2011, 04:38 PM
Oh God, voting's over? Where did I get the idea it ran till next year? http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd14/sergeant_ook/Icons/confused.gif I forgot to vote. http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd14/sergeant_ook/Icons/blue_sad.gif

Null_11
12-08-2011, 11:44 AM
Next Fan choice figure I'm gonna vote for the Granny Rebel Pilot in the deleted scenes from the ROTJ BR. :D

GarvenDreis
12-08-2011, 12:46 PM
Next Fan choice figure I'm gonna vote for the Granny Rebel Pilot in the deleted scenes from the ROTJ BR. :D
Any pictures? :p

Nute
12-08-2011, 07:30 PM
I hope Hasbro can hear the passion about our fan favorites. Perhaps, if Hasbro's GI Joe's Subscription service goes well, they might consider a Star Wars version? This would be a great venue for Madame Nu.

BUT as for an EPIII Nute Gunray, we need him!

StarWarsMonsters
12-09-2011, 06:35 AM
I want this dancer.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110312001761/slaveleia/images/thumb/f/fe/Jess_close21.jpg/370px-Jess_close21.jpg

http://slaveleia.wikia.com/wiki/Jess

I wonder if she signed a release...?

theforcemonkey
12-09-2011, 08:19 AM
Wow, I have never noticed that character ever. Which is odd - she's totally hot.

StarWarsMonsters
12-09-2011, 08:26 AM
Wow, I have never noticed that character ever. Which is odd - she's totally hot.
Yeah, I don't think I've seen her till recently (http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1069050-2/#post18657673). There's always something new to find in Star Wars! Evidently she also played the below character [wrong; see correction below] and wrote the lyrics for Lapti Nek.

http://red6.home.insightbb.com/Aliens/Jabba/laudica.jpg

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Laudica

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110305195332/slaveleia/images/0/0d/Jess2.jpg

'Jess (http://slaveleia.wikia.com/wiki/Jess)' needs a figure ASAP! :excitement:

Michele Gruska - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0344706/)

I guess this is her: http://www.myspace.com/michelegruska


PS

I've started a Dear Hasbro thread (http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1075366/) requesting this character appear on the next ballot. Let them know if you're interested!


EDIT: Oops. Laudica was NOT played by Gruska. They were two different people. Thanks to bigbarada for posting confirmation. This 'Return of the Ewok' footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-itVa17ps40&feature=youtu.be) shows Gruska and another performer dancing together at 00:56.

GrandAdmiralFel
12-09-2011, 05:22 PM
[/URL]

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110305195332/slaveleia/images/0/0d/Jess2.jpg

'[URL="http://slaveleia.wikia.com/wiki/Jess"]Jess (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Laudica)' needs a figure ASAP! :excitement:

Michele Gruska - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0344706/)

I guess this is her: Michele Gruska (Michele) on Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/michelegruska)


PS

I've started a Dear Hasbro thread (http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1075366/) requesting this character appear on the next ballot. Let them know if you're interested!

I guess I know who I'm putting on my ballot next year. The Imperial Commando.

And Jess, too.

(Nice bit of myspace archaeology there, SWM)

StarWarsMonsters
12-09-2011, 05:38 PM
I guess I know who I'm putting on my ballot next year. The Imperial Commando.

And Jess, too.

(Nice bit of myspace archaeology there, SWM)
She's all over the place.

http://www.myspace.com/michelegruska

http://www.facebook.com/michele.gruska

http://twitter.com/freeatlast18

I'd contact her to mention she's being discussed here and ask if she signed a release for merch, but I'm not on any of those sites. I wonder if she would like a Jess figure? :topsy_turvy:

GarvenDreis
12-10-2011, 02:00 AM
I'd contact her to mention she's being discussed here and ask if she signed a release for merch, but I'm not on any of those sites. I wonder if she would like a Jess figure? :topsy_turvy:
I just did that for you. I'll let you know if I hear anything back.

StarWarsMonsters
12-10-2011, 10:47 AM
I just did that for you. I'll let you know if I hear anything back.
Excellent! http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd14/sergeant_ook/Icons/tipofthehat.gif

Droidworld
12-10-2011, 11:52 AM
Looks like they may need to get likeness rights from Lady Gaga! :witless:

Calo_Nord
12-10-2011, 12:45 PM
I think we might see a pegwarmer that will break Yarna's record :D

StarWarsMonsters
12-10-2011, 12:49 PM
I think we might see a pegwarmer that will break Yarna's record :D
You mean Jess? Seriously?! She's hot! And New Wave!!1 :love-struck:

Calo_Nord
12-10-2011, 12:54 PM
You mean Jess? Seriously?! She's hot! And New Wave!!1 :love-struck:

Be that as it may, somehow, I don't think parents will be lining up to buy this figure for their kids :D

StarWarsMonsters
12-10-2011, 01:00 PM
Be that as it may, somehow, I don't think parents will be lining up to buy this figure for their kids :D
But she only has two ****...

GarvenDreis
12-10-2011, 05:52 PM
Nothing beats Oola under the robes! :D

Who seriously thought that was a good idea?

trandoshanhunter
12-10-2011, 05:53 PM
Nothing beats Oola under the robes! :D

Who seriously thought that was a good idea?

Peeping Tom.

GarvenDreis
12-10-2011, 05:54 PM
Peeping Tom.
He works for Hasbro now?

I guess he works on all female figures? :stupid:

trandoshanhunter
12-10-2011, 07:50 PM
He works for Hasbro now?

I guess he works on all female figures? :stupid:

Well, he works on all the slave Leia's and other half naked figures I presume....

GarvenDreis
12-10-2011, 08:13 PM
Well, he works on all the slave Leia's and other half naked figures I presume....
Well whoever sculpted that can't keep his testosterone under control. :p

Jcc2224Cody
12-10-2011, 08:17 PM
Garven, I honestly don't know why someone would design a child's toy like that. The sculptor must've been a horny middle-aged man going through a divorce and still had some "memories" in his mind...

trandoshanhunter
12-10-2011, 08:21 PM
Garven, I honestly don't know why someone would design a child's toy like that. The sculptor must've been a horny middle-aged man going through a divorce and still had some "memories" in his mind...

Uhh, great description.....

Jcc2224Cody
12-10-2011, 08:27 PM
Why thank you, god sir. :)

I bet the sculptor(s) of most female figures are middle-aged men, too. Considering many of them (Like the Slaves, Bariss) have pretty defined "features". Excuse me, but when the TLC Leia's shirt accidentally flipped up when I was moving it, I then understood why the RS archive didn't want to take a picture of it...

GarvenDreis
12-10-2011, 08:31 PM
Garven, I honestly don't know why someone would design a child's toy like that. The sculptor must've been a horny middle-aged man going through a divorce and still had some "memories" in his mind...

Over the

Line




:05.18-flustered:

trandoshanhunter
12-10-2011, 08:33 PM
Why thank you, god sir. :)

I bet the sculptor(s) of most female figures are middle-aged men, too. Considering many of them (Like the Slaves, Bariss) have pretty defined "features". Excuse me, but when the TLC Leia's shirt accidentally flipped up when I was moving it, I then understood why the RS archive didn't want to take a picture of it...

Alright, thats, uhh, good.

R5_D2
12-11-2011, 01:33 AM
As long as the figure is new, I don't care what it is, I'll buy it. But it bums me out when the Fans Choice Winner is a repack/resculpt, unless the resculpt is really good.

GNT
12-11-2011, 04:24 AM
I think we might see a pegwarmer that will break Yarna's record :D

Doubt she'll be replaced anytime soon ;p

AlrikFassbauer
12-11-2011, 08:24 AM
Why thank you, god sir. :)I bet the sculptor(s) of most female figures are middle-aged men, too. Considering many of them (Like the Slaves, Bariss) have pretty defined "features". Excuse me, but when the TLC Leia's shirt accidentally flipped up when I was moving it, I then understood why the RS archive didn't want to take a picture of it... What I notice since several years now re :- some figures have s tendency towards one side- several droids (and a few oher figures as well, like the newest Dengar, for example) - and especially the BAD Death Star Droid - suffer from a HUGE lordosis !!! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LordosisYou can tell the Lordosis from the back - the point where the upper torso and the lower torso are jointed. Try to let a BAD Death Star Droid stand upright in a "healthy" position ... And try that with the Cinema 3-pack Arvel Crynyd, too : Rebelscum.com; Star Wars Toy News Archive (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/toys/potfarvelright.jpg)

AlrikFassbauer
12-11-2011, 08:26 AM
Why am I not able to edit my posts anymore ? Klicking on the "save" button just doesn't work anymore ...

R5_D2
12-12-2011, 01:25 AM
..several droids - and especially the BAD Death Star Droid - suffer from a HUGE lordosis !!! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lordosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LordosisYou)
Just an opinion on this, especially in the case of any sort of protocol droid... I've seen a LOT of shots where C-3PO is standing in such a way. I think that has translated into what we see in the figures. Granted it may be a little exaggerated, but shots like the one below show 3PO in a similar stance:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091201142261/starwars/images/thumb/c/c0/Threepio-19bby.jpg/584px-Threepio-19bby.jpg
Just by looking at the gap between the upper and lower torso parts, you can tell 3PO here is standing in a sort of arched-back position, which is then probably exaggerated in figure form, resulting in a droid with Lordosis.

padmesghost
12-12-2011, 05:03 PM
I want this dancer.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110312001761/slaveleia/images/thumb/f/fe/Jess_close21.jpg/370px-Jess_close21.jpg

Jess - Slave Leia Wiki (http://slaveleia.wikia.com/wiki/Jess)

I wonder if she signed a release...?

I like to support female action figures being made but this one isn't too memorable for me. I don't actually remember seeing her in ROTJ. I wouldn't think she has any chance of winning a fan's choice poll but maybe Hasbro can put her in a multipack.

StarWarsMonsters
12-12-2011, 07:57 PM
I like to support female action figures being made but this one isn't too memorable for me. I don't actually remember seeing her in ROTJ. I wouldn't think she has any chance of winning a fan's choice poll but maybe Hasbro can put her in a multipack.
I don't think anybody remembers her. I wasn't aware of her at all until a few days ago. But I think the coolest thing about her, besides the New Wave hairdo, is that she seems to be Bib's personal slave girl. She appears only to be present in the film hanging on his coattails. And her blue hair and outfit look like the the ol' http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd14/sergeant_ook/Icons/p-i-m-p.gif has branded her with his colors. I'd bet her costume was cut from the same bolt of fabric as his.

homer_sapien
12-13-2011, 11:11 AM
I don't remember her either. Was she in it originally or is she one of the special edition add ins?

bigbarada
12-13-2011, 11:23 AM
I don't remember her either. Was she in it originally or is she one of the special edition add ins?

She's always been in the movie, the actress who played her actually wrote the lyrics to Lapti Nek (the original Rebo Band song). You can see her at the 00:56 mark of this video, which was a mockumentary shot during the filming of ROTJ:
Extremley rare Star Wars footage - Return of the Ewok PT.2 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/-itVa17ps40)

GarvenDreis
12-13-2011, 09:50 PM
He wouldn't be fussing over her if she was just an SE addition. :D

DarkArtist
12-14-2011, 09:17 AM
so when do we get the results of the poll?

i voted for the ROTJ Emperor with Throne as I've been waiting for a nice detailed sculpted ROTJ Emperor Palpatine with DSII Throne... hoping it's gets made.

GarvenDreis
12-14-2011, 09:23 AM
so when do we get the results of the poll?

i voted for the ROTJ Emperor with Throne as I've been waiting for a nice detailed sculpted ROTJ Emperor Palpatine with DSII Throne... hoping it's gets made.
Toy Fair 2012 in Feburary.

Revanfan1
12-14-2011, 05:34 PM
Plagueis fans, checkit.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111214192143/starwars/images/5/5d/Darth_Plagueis.jpg

Calo_Nord
12-14-2011, 06:38 PM
Really? That's what he looks like?

StarWarsMonsters
12-14-2011, 06:42 PM
Really? That's what he looks like?
I think that species was a really poor choice for this character, at least if he's supposed to be a scary-looking Sith guy. Those Banking Clan mooks look ridiculous.

krabkin
12-14-2011, 06:49 PM
Is it too late to change my vote given that image?

ReverendStrone
12-14-2011, 06:52 PM
Throwing a hood over him will make a big difference, but yeah, that sure is a weak, weak, weak design.

bigbarada
12-14-2011, 06:59 PM
Plagueis fans, checkit.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111214192143/starwars/images/5/5d/Darth_Plagueis.jpg

Horrible. Absolutely horrible.

He doesn't look scary, or intimidating, or even dignified at all. Which are all qualities that were brought to my mind when I listened to Palpatine's story about him in ROTS. I still firmly believe that we should have NEVER seen this character, because it totally ruins the mystery and the intrigue.

StarWarsMonsters
12-14-2011, 07:09 PM
Is this the first released image of him? I thought I saw one weeks ago...? Maybe I just envisioned it having heard that he was Muun?

Anyway, I could kill this loser in his sleep. :sleeping:

darth_sidious
12-14-2011, 07:40 PM
He is a Muun actually, and they dont have human noses like that - is this even an official picture? It looks like fan art.

SnTrooper
12-14-2011, 08:26 PM
is this even an official picture?It's from the latest Insider. Illustration for a short story about his master.

ReverendStrone
12-14-2011, 08:51 PM
Given to a good designer, even as a muun (not the strongest looking PT design), he could be made to look very cool. Unfortunately, Lucas doesn't hire designers to visualise their EU creations the way they have conceptual artists workshop their movie designs and this is why I think often the EU material can fell like it falls outside the SW aesthetic. Most of it hasn't been through a design pipeline and vetting process the way movie stuff does. That's not to say some lame designs don't come from the movies or that some EU designs aren't good, but the problem is that most EU stuff is first visualized by a freelance illustrator working at home on whatever comic, book or magazine image just happens to first depict that character. As much respect as I have for illustrators, most would be the first to admit they might not be designers, just as many designers don't consider themselves polished art illustrators. I really wish LFL would hire a small team of designers who have movie experience to conceptualise basic visuals for their main EU inventions that could then be p****d out to illustrators as reference when they send out book or comic assignments. They shepard their movie designs so thoroughly, it blows me away that they don't look after their EU materials anywhere near as well. I guarantee we'd get stronger looking EU offerings that way, and we sure as heck wouldn't get something like this awful Plagueis fail.

darth_sidious
12-14-2011, 09:07 PM
It's from the latest Insider. Illustration for a short story about his master.

I wonder if the artist used any reference material before he made the drawing - that nose is hideous and it doesnt even represent the species. If we ever get a figure of this character, I hope he doesnt sport that schnoz.

bigbarada
12-14-2011, 09:34 PM
He is a Muun actually, and they dont have human noses like that - is this even an official picture? It looks like fan art.

It looks like the artist used images from the Clone Wars micro-series as reference:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080211072641/starwars/images/thumb/b/ba/IGBCMuunilinst.jpg/687px-IGBCMuunilinst.jpg

I guess now we'll be treated to some EU explanation of how certain species of Muun developed noses while others didn't. Ugh.


Given to a good designer, even as a muun (not the strongest looking PT design), he could be made to look very cool. Unfortunately, Lucas doesn't hire designers to visualise their EU creations the way they have conceptual artists workshop their movie designs and this is why I think often the EU material can fell like it falls outside the SW aesthetic. Most of it hasn't been through a design pipeline and vetting process the way movie stuff does. That's not to say some lame designs don't come from the movies or that some EU designs aren't good, but the problem is that most EU stuff is first visualized by a freelance illustrator working at home on whatever comic, book or magazine image just happens to first depict that character. As much respect as I have for illustrators, most would be the first to admit they might not be designers, just as many designers don't consider themselves polished art illustrators. I really wish LFL would hire a small team of designers who have movie experience to conceptualise basic visuals for their main EU inventions that could then be p****d out to illustrators as reference when they send out book or comic assignments. They shepard their movie designs so thoroughly, it blows me away that they don't look after their EU materials anywhere near as well. I guarantee we'd get stronger looking EU offerings that way, and we sure as heck wouldn't get something like this awful Plagueis fail.

I totally agree, this is the biggest problem I have with EU designs. They simply don't look as complete or as polished as film designs. You can tell that the film designers have months or even years to revise and rework their designs. Most EU characters look like they were approved in a matter of days after just one or two concept sketches.

Calo_Nord
12-15-2011, 09:22 AM
I kind of feel like how I did when I was told there was no such thing as Santa Claus as a kid.

I've looked at this image a bunch of times and I'm trying to force myself to like this. What a horrible, bland, lackluster and boring looking character. THIS is Darth Plagueis the WISE? He looks like Larry Plagueis this Galactic Accountant.

I had no regrets about voting for vintage Nikto before, but now I feel bad for fans who voted for Plagueis without seeing that picture first. How anti-climactic and overall, disappointing.

StarWarsMonsters
12-15-2011, 09:44 AM
I want this dancer.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110312001761/slaveleia/images/thumb/f/fe/Jess_close21.jpg/370px-Jess_close21.jpg

Jess - Slave Leia Wiki (http://slaveleia.wikia.com/wiki/Jess)

I wonder if she signed a release...?
I think it important I post a disclaimer lest I spread misinformation on the forum: It is not confirmed that Michele Gruska (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0344706/) (listed on IMDb as having wrote the lyrics for 'Lapti Nek') is the above pictured dancer/slave girl. There is a discussion about the subject in Mr Gerald_Home (http://forum.rebelscum.com/users/19126/)'s ROTJ thread here (http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1069050-2/#post18664677). Gerald played Squid Head and the Mon Cal officer in ROTJ. If you haven't already, go say hello to a classic SW actor! :encouragement:

Michael_Knight
12-15-2011, 02:14 PM
^Interesting read. Thanks for posting that.

Revanfan1
12-15-2011, 06:41 PM
I kind of feel like how I did when I was told there was no such thing as Santa Claus as a kid.

I've looked at this image a bunch of times and I'm trying to force myself to like this. What a horrible, bland, lackluster and boring looking character. THIS is Darth Plagueis the WISE? He looks like Larry Plagueis this Galactic Accountant.

I had no regrets about voting for vintage Nikto before, but now I feel bad for fans who voted for Plagueis without seeing that picture first. How anti-climactic and overall, disappointing.

I like this image better:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071201060435/starwars/images/4/4a/Plagueis_head.jpg

ReverendStrone
12-15-2011, 07:40 PM
...because you can't see him. It's kinda hard to sculpt darkness in a toy.

It shows what throwing a deep hood does for a character.

Revanfan1
12-15-2011, 08:22 PM
...because you can't see him. It's kinda hard to sculpt darkness in a toy.

It shows what throwing a deep hood does for a character.

Well, if you don't like the new Plagueis image, blame the artist...and just say the nose was a mess-up. I dunno.

ReverendStrone
12-15-2011, 08:52 PM
I do. I totally do. It's a crumby design. Anyhow, if he ever makes it to plastic here's hoping Hasbro reinterprets him well. They want a strong seller after all. Their track record is mixed. They seem to think adding a frown or grimace might enhance appeal sometimes (Ben Quadinaros, Clegg Holdfast).

Choi
12-16-2011, 05:35 PM
I think I would actually prefer his master, Darth Tenebrous.

Revanfan1
12-16-2011, 06:41 PM
I think I would actually prefer his master, Darth Tenebrous.

Yes. Bith Sith FTW.

Scarrviper
12-16-2011, 08:03 PM
I'd love to see Jess get made, she is in the film, and is just as visible/obscure as BG-J38.

As for Plagueis, blech. I really hope he doesn't win, especially now.

Rune_Haako
12-17-2011, 05:21 PM
I'm glad I didn't vote for Plagueis if Hasbro were to use that likeness.

He doesn't even look like a Muun anymore.

grievous444
12-17-2011, 07:34 PM
Don't like that picture of him to. Now I think off, it would have been far better if Plagueis wasn't a Muun, but a Cerean, like Ki-Adi Mundi.

Oddball_Fett
12-17-2011, 09:06 PM
Yes. Bith Sith FTW.

And give him a saxophone-saber!

GarvenDreis
12-18-2011, 04:14 AM
I wish the picture would have come out BEFORE voting took place. People should have been able to see what exactly they were voting for.

I call subterfuge on who ever was in charge of releasing that picture. They wanted to make sure Pagueis supports didn't change their minds due to that horrid picture! Sure they may have love it but it's crap!

Here are some better ideas...

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNXrKzTblvrj_f9sLPnuv32Lm2IrMZD 6kVVS4WQNJS3qP-iWyuhttps://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR21DERKxuaA_jvBiG0N_HFTixaIrY06 yP4bH-BJz1KOEJ4_Mp6https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwr5N2q5oj2DsQjeJCAMfpiI9_k-T2hdH3mGhv4UI0fo_q-9uP


Oh, I forgot to mention.
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyBCC-0UUXZcV4lC5rjTJW2s43lHxMHrYGOX6llFFws_ptuVLudg

He only needs one saber! Don't try to add another saber to try to "improve" on your design.

Masterfett
12-18-2011, 11:32 PM
No disrespect to anyone who is a fan or voted, but that is one of the most lamest lackluster character designs I have ever seen.

trandoshanhunter
12-19-2011, 04:55 PM
No disrespect to anyone who is a fan or voted, but that is one of the most lamest lackluster character designs I have ever seen.

I concur....

krabkin
12-19-2011, 05:55 PM
Not a huge fan of muuns in general but I think these pics make him look ALOT better (all are interpretations):

http://forums.mtgnews.com/album.php?albumid=4&pictureid=31]ZBrushCentral (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?47302-Darth-Plagueis-WIP

[URL="http://forums.mtgnews.com/album.php?albumid=4&pictureid=31")[/URL]

Spike13205
12-19-2011, 08:07 PM
throw a hood on him and he doesnt look so bad.

...although, that image posted on the last page kinda looks more like Darth Butthead...(beavis and butthead)

palps45895
12-22-2011, 07:40 AM
Apparently, Yakface.com is reporting Yoda will be the theme of 2013 packaging, similar to Maul this year... which makes sense is AOTC 3D is coming 2013.

Hadn't seen this reported yet here unless I missed it.

Choi
12-22-2011, 07:44 AM
Apparently, Yakface.com is reporting Yoda will be the theme of 2013 packaging, similar to Maul this year... which makes sense is AOTC 3D is coming 2013.

Hadn't seen this reported yet here unless I missed it.

No, it means that somehow Hasbro has skipped over Attack of the Clones or Yakface just never "intercepted that transmission". They were rather adament about the films being one a year, which would make Yoda be for Revenge of the Sith.

HothHan
12-22-2011, 08:01 AM
No, it means that somehow Hasbro has skipped over Attack of the Clones or Yakface just never "intercepted that transmission". They were rather adament about the films being one a year, which would make Yoda be for Revenge of the Sith.

Huh? What did Hasbro skip...?

2013 AOTC 3D is scheduled to come out. Yoda was in it and had a significant role.

trandoshanhunter
12-22-2011, 12:07 PM
2013 AOTC 3D is scheduled to come out. Yoda was in it and had a significant role.

I'd rather have a clone trooper than Yoda on the packaging.

DarthPaxis
12-22-2011, 12:59 PM
I saw that pic pf Plagius, and I keep in mind that this pic was done of him right after he killed his master, so he hasn't aged gracefully into 'Darth Plageius the Wise' yet. Add about a decade onto him and he'd look much better.

In any case the style also doesn't do him justice, the pic from the Essential Guide was done in a much more realistic style and I consider a true interpretation of him.

homer_sapien
12-23-2011, 12:47 PM
I'd rather have a clone trooper than Yoda on the packaging.

I like Yoda better just because he was in the OT and Prequels so to me he makes sense on Prequel and OT products.

trandoshanhunter
12-23-2011, 12:50 PM
I like Yoda better just because he was in the OT and Prequels so to me he makes sense on Prequel and OT products.

It would make more sense to have a clone trooper, though.

grievous444
12-23-2011, 04:03 PM
It would even make more sense if they would stick with the vintage style.

eyewreck
12-23-2011, 04:36 PM
I know kids like action and all, but I would prefer the docile, OT version of Yoda rather than the Force-ball wielding crazy-frog with the "I KEEL YOU" face.

GarvenDreis
12-23-2011, 04:40 PM
It would make more sense to have a clone trooper, though.
We've been getting those jokers too long now.

my_kind_of_scum
12-24-2011, 01:42 AM
He is a Muun actually, and they dont have human noses like that - is this even an official picture? It looks like fan art.

Exactly. Ugh. Looks awful.

Trooper31
12-24-2011, 07:02 AM
Yoda packaging would be refreshing. I'm all for it.

homer_sapien
12-24-2011, 11:30 AM
It would make more sense to have a clone trooper, though.

I'd be OK with them on the Prequel stuff, but not on the OT stuff. They'd have to put Stormtroopers on them.

trandoshanhunter
12-24-2011, 02:54 PM
I'd be OK with them on the Prequel stuff, but not on the OT stuff. They'd have to put Stormtroopers on them.

Yeah, I meant prequal stuff. I think strom troopers would look great for OT packaging, although I'd rather have the Vintage cards for OT figures.

Choi
12-24-2011, 04:59 PM
I'd be OK with them on the Prequel stuff, but not on the OT stuff. They'd have to put Stormtroopers on them.

That would not be likely. They didn't do anything like that for 2012, so thay probably won't for 2013.

homer_sapien
12-25-2011, 11:47 AM
That would not be likely. They didn't do anything like that for 2012, so thay probably won't for 2013.

Oh I know they like to use one image for everything. That's why I suggested Yoda. The Stormtroopers on OT stuff was just an idea for if they were going to seperate the two era and use the Clone Troopers again for the PT stuff.

Choi
01-09-2012, 05:56 PM
Well, it's only a month untill we see the results.

Deathbymonkeys
01-10-2012, 12:46 AM
I think they'll go jango for ep2 and vader if they get to 3.

darthbishop71
02-11-2012, 11:32 AM
Oh my;-((( Fans choice winner begins with J as per Yakface on facebook. Looks like Jaxon or Jocasta... I'm gonna quit as all these polls reflect EU and not OT winners!!!!

my_kind_of_scum
02-11-2012, 11:34 AM
I think it will be Jocasta, but I hope jaxxon is coming soon as well. (maybe a celebration exclusive?)

StarWarsMonsters
02-11-2012, 11:35 AM
Oh my;-((( Fans choice winner begins with J as per Yakface on facebook. Looks like Jaxon or Jocasta... I'm gonna quit as all these polls reflect EU and not OT winners!!!!

May I vote now? I'll take Jaxxon. :P

trandoshanhunter
02-11-2012, 11:37 AM
Oh my;-((( Fans choice winner begins with J as per Yakface on facebook. Looks like Jaxon or Jocasta... I'm gonna quit as all these polls reflect EU and not OT winners!!!!

(crosses fingers it's Jaxxon.)

GNT
02-11-2012, 03:01 PM
it's mara jade!

trandoshanhunter
02-11-2012, 03:03 PM
Awesome! Better than an old librarian anyday!

Agen_Kolar
02-11-2012, 03:07 PM
This is the biggest disappointment from the Fans' Choice Poll in a long time. I absolutely will not purchase this.

Tikkes
02-11-2012, 03:14 PM
I'm rather happy about this selection, Mara is an awesome EU character that I actually care about!

Internets
02-11-2012, 03:15 PM
I think it'll be a great figure but Mara's had a bunch of figures already. I would've liked someone all new.

Revanfan1
02-11-2012, 03:17 PM
I voted for Mara and she won! Unlike 2005 (or was it 03 or 04?) when I voted for a SW Battlefront jetpack clone trooper...but anyway. B)

GKinCT
02-11-2012, 03:20 PM
Cool! If I can find her I'll definately pick her up.

Ashy_Larry
02-11-2012, 03:22 PM
Missed importunity for something new. :mad:

VornJithco
02-11-2012, 03:23 PM
gladly will take Mara Jade over a dopey six foot green bunny or an old lady

AnthonyP
02-11-2012, 03:36 PM
Glad to hear Mara Jade won. I'll be picking her up .

Tikkes
02-11-2012, 03:38 PM
I think it'll be a great figure but Mara's had a bunch of figures already. I would've liked someone all new.

2 figures isn't exactly "a bunch".

ladydevourer
02-11-2012, 03:47 PM
I think hasbro needs to rename this fan choices poll and call it the "eu fans choice" or the "video game poll from ex wizard magazine/gamepro readers really not starwars toy collector fans poll" since thats the only thing that ever wins anymore. They might as well remove ot/pt brand new characters from the nominations because hasbro tries their best to avoid making these types of figures whose fans have waited over 30+ and 13 years for and they will never win because of this new breed of sw fan who wants his 1000000 clone design,game jedi and generic hack artist design. There are other types of collectors like OT/PT obscure fans that dont care about video game/eu things. There actually are fans who appreciate movie designs over dark horse designs and like to build and create diaramas. Where the heck are the return of cinema scenes with 3 obscure figures and unique accessories? Where are the playsets? This line is sooooo predictable with its noseturn to the old school fans. How about ANYTHING NEW? Hello?

Who cares if there have been 2 mara jades and they arent up your standards. Thats better than the ot/pt fans who have waited years with abolutely NO versions at all of brand new certain characters. Some people would be happy just to get "A" figure of certain characters. Thats better than nothing at all. Seriously this line is dying a quick death with these kinds of decisions, no new aliens/movie background humans,cw tv animated and now realistic crap,the 1000000th rehash,no diaramas,over expensive prices and the worst toy distribution in the history of toys. Its become a boring,expensive,predictable and pain in the **** activity.

Yodaminch
02-11-2012, 03:53 PM
Ellors Maddak, the Duro one the very first Fan's Choice poll. Amanaman was second. Ephant Mon was third. Then it was Concept Stormtrooper. Then Captain Antilles.

And the three EU fan's choice winners: Revan, Bastilla and now Mara.

We could also examine the sale of Basic EU figures vs. Basic 'Fan Fan favorite' releases but that's silly.

This year is actually one of the more evenly balanced in terms of the line. There is PT, OT and EU. A little for everyone. And as everyone helps put their $ to this line, it's good that all groups get a little something to make it worth their money.

Darth_Starkiller
02-11-2012, 03:55 PM
I don't think Mara Jade was really needed, we have already some decent versions, as far I remember. I'd prefer Jocasta, just to see Hasbro with a big Okay...

tanksmasher
02-11-2012, 04:00 PM
Well, she's ok. Would have preferred something really different, like Jaxxon maybe.

Carnor_Jax
02-11-2012, 04:02 PM
I think hasbro needs to rename this fan choices poll and call it the "eu fans choice" or the "video game poll from ex wizard magazine/gamepro readers really not starwars toy collector fans poll" since thats the only thing that ever wins anymore. They might as well remove ot/pt brand new characters from the nominations because hasbro tries their best to avoid making these types of figures whose fans have waited over 30+ and 13 years for and they will never win because of this new breed of sw fan who wants his 1000000 clone design,game jedi and generic hack artist design. There are other types of collectors like OT/PT obscure fans that dont care about video game/eu things. There actually are fans who appreciate movie designs over dark horse designs and like to build and create diaramas. Where the heck are the return of cinema scenes with 3 obscure figures and unique accessories? Where are the playsets? This line is sooooo predictable with its noseturn to the old school fans. How about ANYTHING NEW? Hello?

Who cares if there have been 2 mara jades and they arent up your standards. Thats better than the ot/pt fans who have waited years with abolutely NO versions at all of brand new certain characters. Some people would be happy just to get "A" figure of certain characters. Thats better than nothing at all. Seriously this line is dying a quick death with these kinds of decisions, no new aliens/movie background humans,cw tv animated and now realistic crap,the 1000000th rehash,no diaramas,over expensive prices and the worst toy distribution in the history of toys. Its become a boring,expensive,predictable and pain in the **** activity.

All the EU hate....:wtf: People you still don't get it EU is tha Expanded Universe which means 99.9% the movie figures will be made down the road alot of the EU maybe not so this is good!

Meesa_Mike
02-11-2012, 04:07 PM
Barf. Easy pass.

Revanfan1
02-11-2012, 04:08 PM
I think you forget, ladydevourer, that the fans picked Mara, not Hasbro.

SWDave
02-11-2012, 04:08 PM
Bah! I wanted the Grey Death Squad Commander!! Stupid EU.:disgusted:

QuiGonJohn
02-11-2012, 04:09 PM
Jebus save us....the whining about not making totally unsellable Grain-of-Sand #43 from the left outside right of the Cantina floor is getting so tedious it's actually funny. Yeah, stupid Hasbro actually listening to what might....you know....SELL.

There's still 5-odd years for Hasbro to get around to the bottom of the barrel, and scrape their way through it rounding out the more and more ridiculous background fillers. You're not Getting the Star-*****s so about all that's really needed are decent re-dos of Mamaw and Snagglepuss .

Mara was always one of the less pointless EU characters so if she's finally getting a decent upgrade I'm fine with that. And I might even buy it if it's articulated to current standards with no cheap-outs......

Jedi_Eeth_Koth
02-11-2012, 04:11 PM
Mara Jade is needed and deserved an update (the comic pack one is weak). I'll take two, thank you.

PizzatheHut
02-11-2012, 04:26 PM
Barf. Easy pass.
Quoted for truth.

DagMarus
02-11-2012, 04:37 PM
Please actually give her a good likeness. Every single Mara figure so far has just been...fug.

GrandAdmiralJSK
02-11-2012, 04:39 PM
Completely thrilled about this! Outside of Cadeus, Anakin Solo, and Ben Skywalker this was a top pick of mine. With all the OT stuff I didnt think she had a chance. The old figures were both terribad. As I mentioned before they could easily do a Emperors Hand version and a Jedi version all in one as she wore similar outfits. Just give her the lavender ( or maybe its red) saber, her Jedi Saber and a good cloak, a utility belt and she could be awesome.

Ill be buying two or three of these, which should help balance out a few of the haters. :) Carded, loose and one for custom fodder.

Easily one of my most anticipated figures planned already.

Nactous
02-11-2012, 04:40 PM
Hahahaha EU strikes again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Melonballer
02-11-2012, 04:44 PM
I just hope she will be easier to find than Bastila is.

Masterfett
02-11-2012, 05:09 PM
I'll pass, already have two of her and she's not the most compelling character to me to warrant a third figure.
They're so out of Ideas that we have to get three Vos figures as well, plenty of stuff out there that hasn't gotten a figure yet!

Yodaminch
02-11-2012, 05:16 PM
Don't blame me. I voted for Plagueis ;)

Seriously though, in the early voting Mara was on my list and she remains on my list. She's one of my favorite characters and she's also one of the figures I paid more than most for when she first came out. When the Comic Pack was announced, I was excited. Then I had the figure in hand and I was disappointed. The head was off. The body was disproportional and corners were cut because of the two pack. As the most notable Expanded Universe character and one of the oldest, she absolutely does deserve a definitive figure. And I can't wait to pick her up.

darthwalls
02-11-2012, 05:42 PM
I just hope she will be easier to find than Bastila is.

Same here. I have yet to even see one in a store.

darth_sidious
02-11-2012, 05:46 PM
Plagueis and Jocasta were leading the poll and Mara Jade won? Haha - did Hasbro actually count the votes or did they pick this character themselves? I honestly dont believe the results.

SWDave
02-11-2012, 06:05 PM
Recount! Recount! I think there were some hanging chads on this one!

SGT_A
02-11-2012, 06:11 PM
I wonder if they tallied the results in Florida?

grievous444
02-11-2012, 06:25 PM
Plagueis and Jocasta were leading the poll and Mara Jade won? Haha - did Hasbro actually count the votes or did they pick this character themselves? I honestly dont believe the results.

I was thinking the same. But didn't dare to write it. I think Jocasta Nu had won, but we all know how Hasbro thinks about her.

darthsatan
02-11-2012, 06:27 PM
Safely installed into the ignore list with this one too.

I am a "fan" and I sure as Hell would NEVER "choose" this!

GNT
02-11-2012, 06:28 PM
Plagueis and Jocasta were leading the poll and Mara Jade won? Haha - did Hasbro actually count the votes or did they pick this character themselves? I honestly dont believe the results.

Let's put it this way even if Jocasta was first, Hasbro would pick whoever was next in line. They simply dont want to make her, yet we can get a Jar Jar figure in Carbonite...what gives?

Scarrviper
02-11-2012, 06:53 PM
Well this was unexpected. A massive letdown to be sure. I wish it had been someone from the OT, but I'll take Mara over Plagueis and Jocasta any day. I've become less of an EU fan every day, but I'll be curious to see how she turns out. The last version was awful.

echo1441
02-11-2012, 07:01 PM
I am a fan of Mara Jade in the novels. That being said, what a huge letdown this pick is. I hope they decide to make a couple more form the list at the same time as Jade like they have done previously.

Billy_Ray
02-11-2012, 09:16 PM
Yeah, I dig Mara Jade too, and am happy to be getting a new version of her but would have really, really loved Jaxxon! I know he is pretty dorky, but for many of us "old" guys whose EU was the original Marvel comics that followed the movie adaptation, he would have been an awesome figure.

So many untapped resources in those old comics...

Alas, the fan's choice poll is pretty much our only hope of ever getting any of them made.

SGT_A
02-11-2012, 09:22 PM
I'm not a big EU fan (I do like the NJO via the Yuuzhan Vong conflict), but since they are doing this figure, I hope they will go with her while via the Emperor's Hand days, but I doubt it.

darth_sidious
02-11-2012, 09:35 PM
According to JTA Jocasta Nu was 'runner up' once again haha - she probably won both years. But here is some possible good news:

Q: If Jocasta Nu doesn't win the current fan choice poll and comes in 2nd place again, will you just make her figure for next years AOTC release ?? It's the perfect time for her. She always ranks high in the polls. Use some of the money you make from all the simple clone repaints and get her done.

Hasbro: (Editor's Note: Hasbro let it slip to us that Jocasta Nu did indeed come in second place for the Fans' Choice poll this year.) If we did tool and release a Jocasta Nu figure, January 2013 would make the most sense to do that. (Smirks)

GrandAdmiralJSK
02-11-2012, 10:44 PM
I'm not a big EU fan (I do like the NJO via the Yuuzhan Vong conflict), but since they are doing this figure, I hope they will go with her while via the Emperor's Hand days, but I doubt it.

Well its Mara Jade Skywalker, so that means its the Jedi days. My thoughts were that they could do both in the same figure pretty easily though. This outfit (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070701201023/starwars/images/thumb/d/d8/Mara_insidercover.jpg/491px-Mara_insidercover.jpg), with a soft Jedi robe, and she could easily double as both "versions".

GarvenDreis
02-11-2012, 10:48 PM
This is a disappointment along with all the fans choice winners. Jaxxon, really? :\

GrandAdmiralJSK
02-11-2012, 11:05 PM
I get that people on "more EU" in the fan's choice poll but the reality is they certainly don't pegwarm like the OT/PT fan's choice figures did.

SGT_A
02-11-2012, 11:12 PM
I get that people on "more EU" in the fan's choice poll but the reality is they certainly don't pegwarm like the OT/PT fan's choice figures did.

Good point, look at Bastilia I've only ever seen 3 in stores and I own all 3 of them. I'll be very interested to see what they come up with. And on another note, being that she's coming in 2013, that gives affirmation that TVC will continue to live on ;)

pohatu771
02-11-2012, 11:26 PM
And on another note, being that she's coming in 2013, that gives affirmation that TVC will continue to live on ;)
No it doesn't. It only confirms that the 3 3/4" line will continue, which has never been questioned.

SGT_A
02-11-2012, 11:34 PM
No it doesn't. It only confirms that the 3 3/4" line will continue, which has never been questioned.

Well, you might be right, but it gives me hope at least :p

Krayt
02-12-2012, 01:46 AM
Wasn't my first choice, but really looking forward to an upgraded figure of what they have released in the past. Was never really thrilled with the other versions so this will be a good one to get, I am hoping. Also, good news that Jocasta could be coming next year. That would be amazing as well.

Goldbug
02-12-2012, 02:31 AM
Well I voted for Bastila. She won.
Then I voted for Mara. She won.
My next vote is for sale. :sneaky:
The only EU figures I like are from the video games. Now I can pit Mara Jade against Jodo Kast. Her previous figures were pathetic & that's why I voted for her. I demand the newest articulation! :D

GarvenDreis
02-12-2012, 02:46 AM
Good point, look at Bastilia I've only ever seen 3 in stores and I own all 3 of them. I'll be very interested to see what they come up with. And on another note, being that she's coming in 2013, that gives affirmation that TVC will continue to live on ;)
Well that whole wave was rare in all fairness.

Masterfett
02-12-2012, 02:57 AM
Good point, look at Bastilia I've only ever seen 3 in stores and I own all 3 of them. I'll be very interested to see what they come up with. And on another note, being that she's coming in 2013, that gives affirmation that TVC will continue to live on ;)
I've never once Seen Bastila in any stores.

I will say if Jocasta isn't in AOTC line somewhere I'll be severely miffed, maybe even hang up my collecting hat until she is made.

Deathbymonkeys
02-12-2012, 04:39 AM
I never saw Bastilla in person either. Saw the rest of the wave twice.

I believe I voted for Mara so I'm stoked she won. There was only one or two from that poll I would have bought. I really, really hope there are still vintage cards when she hits.

matt292
02-12-2012, 07:34 AM
Eh, can't get excited about Mara Jade as I have one - if it's significantly better, then ok - would be nice if they used the photos they had on SW.com of the woman posing as her - would make a good cardback

grievous444
02-12-2012, 08:11 AM
I never saw Bastilla in person either. Saw the rest of the wave twice.

I believe I voted for Mara so I'm stoked she won. There was only one or two from that poll I would have bought. I really, really hope there are still vintage cards when she hits.


I concur. I also hope there still Vintage cards when they release her. And they better make Jocasta Nu when AOTC comes again in theaters.

HothHan
02-12-2012, 09:21 AM
Blah...I wanted Plagueis.

So anyone in the Whitehouse Station, NJ area won't have any competition from me when searching for this one.

Krayt
02-12-2012, 11:13 AM
Eh, can't get excited about Mara Jade as I have one - if it's significantly better, then ok - would be nice if they used the photos they had on SW.com of the woman posing as her - would make a good cardback

Matt looking at the previous versions of Mara, I don't see how a new can't be significantly better. There is so many problems with the previous versions that it should be easy to make something better. They could fall flat on their face and fail, but with what Hasbro has been putting out in the last couple years and understanding they want to "upgrade" her, I am sure we will get a better version. I am definitely looking forward to seeing pics of her later on.

palps45895
02-12-2012, 11:35 AM
Plagueis and Jocasta were leading the poll and Mara Jade won? Haha - did Hasbro actually count the votes or did they pick this character themselves? I honestly dont believe the results.

Per jeditemplearchives, a question to Hasbro about Jocasta accompanying next year's AOTC 3D release elicited a response of "if she's ever made, next January would be the time" and a smirk, or something to that effect...

Toonimator
02-12-2012, 11:46 AM
Well its Mara Jade Skywalker, so that means its the Jedi days. My thoughts were that they could do both in the same figure pretty easily though. This outfit (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070701201023/starwars/images/thumb/d/d8/Mara_insidercover.jpg/491px-Mara_insidercover.jpg), with a soft Jedi robe, and she could easily double as both "versions".
THAT outfit is the same outfit BOTH previous Mara figures had on. The stupid sleeveless catsuit. It was just sculpted slightly differently, and never colored that way, but it's meant to be that same outfit she's been saddled with in most visual media since that damn Decipher card was released.

Now, the Japanese NJO cover image associated with this poll, showing the same sleeveless catsuit but opened in the front, with a long-sleeve white shirt underneath isn't exactly 'great', but it's a slight improvement. A far better one would be coming up with an awesome OT Jedi-y outfit, similar to Luke's ROTJ, but perhaps in some deep greens. Or jumpsuit-style, since she tended towards jumpsuit/'smuggler' type gear in most EU descriptions from Thrawn & beyond (her Mysteries of the Sith video game outfit's along these lines), but I think when described as wearing Jedi robes, sort of a mix of Luke's ROTJ (with vest) and PT-style Jedi attire. Probably lacking billowy sleeves.

Anyway, I'm thrilled with this choice, and I hope they do it justice and don't just revamp the previous figures, or straight-up repack/repaint the problem-filled Comic Pack figure with painted-on white sleeves. Ugh.

And it'd be fun if she has Luke's old lightsaber, tho I know most of us have a hundred of them to spare if she doesn't ;)

Scarrviper
02-12-2012, 12:00 PM
The more I think about this one, the more baffling it is. This was a golden opportunity to get an unmade character from the OT, but instead we get another EU character. Not only that, but it is one we have had twice now. Granted, the first one is outdated, and the second one sucked. She needs a definitive version, but the fans choice winner doesn't seem right.

Yodaminch
02-12-2012, 12:05 PM
The more I think about this one, the more baffling it is. This was a golden opportunity to get an unmade character from the OT, but instead we get another EU character. Not only that, but it is one we have had twice now. Granted, the first one is outdated, and the second one sucked. She needs a definitive version, but the fans choice winner doesn't seem right.

Well, if it wasn't her, it was to be Jocasta Nu. And if not her, Jaxxon. And somehow, I'd wager Plagueis hit 4th. I just don't think the OT had much of a shot this time. The choices, while good, were not many that excited a lot of fans. I mean really, having to put the Emperor on a Fan's choice poll was just depressing. That should be a no brainer for Hasbro. And part of me wonders if some of the other nominees that were from ROTJ are already planned for the 30th anniversary.

I still think Jocasta won but that she's likely on deck for AOTC 3D. I applaud Mara for her surprise win. But based on the past polls, Bastila went from second place in one fan's choice poll to first in the next. And Jocasta went from second to second while Mara shot ahead to win. As long as we do get Jocasta for AOTC 3D, I'll be happy. And with Nom Anor coming this Spring (FINALLY!!!!), I will be most pleased to have a Mara Jade Skywalker to skewer him with. Comic Pack Mara will hold her place until 2013.

Toonimator
02-12-2012, 12:46 PM
The more I think about this one, the more baffling it is. This was a golden opportunity to get an unmade character from the OT, but instead we get another EU character. Not only that, but it is one we have had twice now. Granted, the first one is outdated, and the second one sucked. She needs a definitive version, but the fans choice winner doesn't seem right.
OT has golden opportunities to get unmade characters just about EVERY year, several times over! Most years have featured unmade OT characters. This is a new Mara from a new era (as Luke's wife, not as 'smuggler who was recently Emperor's Hand' like the other two) in what will hopefully be an all-new outfit. If Comic Pack Mara hadn't been such a disappointment, I doubt MJ Skywalker would've won here. Most of us would've been happy with SA Smuggler Mara w/ a saber & pistol back then, which was totally doable based on other figures Hasbro had released... instead we got lower articulation, a crappy rendition of an overexposed outfit she never should've had, a gigantic forehead, and a ridiculously-POTF2-sized blaster. And a rubber hilt with a removable blade. Blech!

Masterfett
02-12-2012, 01:24 PM
I know right, I don't see why so many people feel FC Poll should go to OT, that's their go to media and can be made anytime.
It's obscure non movie stuff that needs the extra help, I even feel that Jocasta shouldn't need the poll But Hasbro forced our hand with that one.

My biggest problem with Mara winning is we do already have two figure regardless of the faults with them, and just making a new SA Mara isn't needed IMO.
Plus they should have posted a pic of the actual winning outfit so we know what we are getting.

Heck I'd rather Jaxxon won instead.

Internets
02-12-2012, 01:29 PM
SA Smuggler Mara
How is that even possible?

Neo_242
02-12-2012, 02:00 PM
I'm tired of all these EU characters in the toy line...

ReverendStrone
02-12-2012, 03:02 PM
Mara - good choice. Here's hoping they really pay attention to nailing her outfit as per what fans have requested this time. And if they know what's good for them they'll find a way to get Jocasta and the bunny done too, so folks who have been clamouring can finally get their hearts' desire and be done with it. Jocasta has her best ever chance next year, so it's now or never I reckon.

Toonimator
02-12-2012, 03:31 PM
How is that even possible?
Not sure I understand the question... the previous 2 Mara figures are both of her in her smuggler days, when she worked for Talon Karrde. Not the same thing at all to Jedi "Mrs Skywalker" Mara, but it probably would've sated a lot of Mara fans so they wouldn't throw so much support behind Jedi Mara in the polls. Instead, we got a crappy update of the '98 Smuggler figure, and while it's lacking in many ways, the naysayers would be in an even bigger uproar over Smuggler Mara winning a poll because it'd mean it's the THIRD figure of the SAME character in the SAME outfit. Like if they went from TuRD Luke to TLC DS2 Luke to VC DS2 Luke in the space of a year. Yeah, it's been a dozen years, but it's an EU character so she's already got a gigantic uphill battle with some fans just for that fact.

homer_sapien
02-12-2012, 05:21 PM
gladly will take Mara Jade over a dopey six foot green bunny or an old lady

Pretty much what I was thinking. Yesterday when people were arguing about whether the J was for Jocasta or Jaxxon I was thinking "I don't care, I'm not interested in either one of them". At least Jade I'll actually get.

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Also sorry if its mentioned in the pages I havn't read yet, but did they just announce Jade was the winner or was there a list of what order the 20 came in?

homer_sapien
02-12-2012, 05:32 PM
I've never once Seen Bastila in any stores.

I will say if Jocasta isn't in AOTC line somewhere I'll be severely miffed, maybe even hang up my collecting hat until she is made.

Aside from a single sighting of wave 7 my main Target had nothing after wave 5 until TPM stuff hit last month.

GrandAdmiralJSK
02-12-2012, 05:32 PM
Pretty much what I was thinking. Yesterday when people were arguing about whether the J was for Jocasta or Jaxxon I was thinking "I don't care, I'm not interested in either one of them". At least Jade I'll actually get.

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Also sorry if its mentioned in the pages I havn't read yet, but did they just announce Jade was the winner or was there a list of what order the 20 came in?

All they gave us was Jade, Jocasta, Jaxxon as far as rankings.

homer_sapien
02-12-2012, 05:38 PM
All they gave us was Jade, Jocasta, Jaxxon as far as rankings.

No wonder they made the J comment.

Goldbug
02-12-2012, 07:06 PM
I'm tired of all these EU characters in the toy line...

You are one of those that voted for Yarna Rebelscum.com: Photo Archive (http://rebelscum.com/TLC06Yarna.asp) weren't you?

5thFleetSecurity
02-12-2012, 07:09 PM
Great result for the FC poll. A character essential to the OT era and beyond, can't wait to see her on a Vintage card. I am pleased.

GNT
02-12-2012, 07:29 PM
I'm tired of all these EU characters in the toy line...

Show your support and don't buy any! EU figures help keep the line nice and fresh since we get heaps of resculpts these days.

Jedi_Eeth_Koth
02-12-2012, 07:34 PM
It's a long shot, but I would be totally thrilled if they used the Shannon McRandle pic for the TVC card. Despite previous artist rendering, that Decipher CCG card has been my mental picture for Mara Jade since it came out.

Granted, it's Decipher's pic and Hasbro would probably have to pay them to use it...

TilltheEnd
02-12-2012, 07:39 PM
It's a long shot, but I would be totally thrilled if they used the Shannon McRandle pic for the TVC card. Despite previous artist rendering, that Decipher CCG card has been my mental picture for Mara Jade since it came out.

Granted, it's Decipher's pic and Hasbro would probably have to pay them to use it...

I'm pretty sure that LucasFilm owns all rights to images and what not. So it is possible that that image could be used if they wanted to, that is if TVC is still being used next year.

Toonimator
02-12-2012, 09:41 PM
I hope not... McRandle's hair looks weird in that pic, and they'd have to alter the photo anyway to put her in a different outfit. A lot of the book covers (mostly Japanese) have MUCH better renderings on non-McRandle Mara, so that'd be a better jumping-off point. There was a 'cool!' factor to McRandle being Mara back in the day, because it was the first EU character to have person portraying 'em in a photo I think (Dark Forces 2 actors aside, if the game was even out when that Decipher card hit that is), but she never felt quite like Mara to me. And that was just cemented when I saw the card with Mara, Corran Horn, and Talon Karrde sitting around a table, with Corran played by Stackpole and Karrde by Zahn, both looking all kinds of 'wrong' for the parts.

But the book covers? Many of those looked great overall. I'd rather the artists take a cue from those and do up some awesome card-art ala Revan's 2007 card.

Galactic_Emperor
02-13-2012, 11:31 AM
Although I agree Mara needs a new sculpt, I'm a bit disappointed she won the poll. I feel like we missed an opportunity to get a new character (like Plagueis or C'boath).


On the other hand, I'm happy yet another EU character won. Hopefully, and regardless of what EU bashers believe, Hasbro gets the message.

padmesghost
02-14-2012, 08:34 AM
i am happy a female won like last time! girl power! i would have rather had Jocasta though.

CaptainJack
02-14-2012, 09:43 AM
I'd say there's still a 50/50 chance they base this figure on the terrible art from the HTTE comic.

Krayt
02-14-2012, 11:50 AM
When I think Mara Jade Skywalker I think the cover of Sacrifice
That is how I want to see her look...

Sorry couldn't get the image to work

StarWarsMonsters
02-15-2012, 09:48 PM
When I think Mara Jade Skywalker I think the cover of Sacrifice
That is how I want to see her look...

Sorry couldn't get the image to work
This one?

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070705140123/starwars/images/6/63/Mara-sacrifice.jpg

Michael_Knight
02-15-2012, 09:57 PM
^ Yes, she is smokin there and I agree an image like that should be Hasbro's basis.

Krayt
02-15-2012, 10:04 PM
Yeah that is definitely the image I was referring to. I absolutely love that pic, looks amazing... I really do hope that is the basis for the figure. I could be wrong, but is that not Anakin's lightsaber too?

Deathbymonkeys
02-16-2012, 04:59 AM
That's exactly the figure I want as well.

Toonimator
02-16-2012, 01:43 PM
o-o

Don't you guys realize that the Sacrifice cover Mara is EXACTLY THE MARA WE ALREADY HAVE! That's Sleeveless Catsuit Mara from the HTTE comic, which both the '98 and Comic Pack figures were based on. I've been disappointed for years that the cover artist chose THAT outfit to go with for Mara's featured LOTF cover. Not only that, her face doesn't really match her pose... it looks like her neck's broken, what with how her body's turned and all.

But the bottom line is it's the wrong outfit. It's WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, which is NOT what most of us who voted for Mara Skywalker were voting for. The only things 'right' in that image are Anakin & Luke's old saber, and a face not based on Shannon. But even the saber hilt looks too fat and doesn't look like it's actually in her hand, more like an afterthought.

padmesghost
02-16-2012, 01:49 PM
the new mara should be pretty like the picture the old one was sorta ugly on so many levels.

Krayt
02-16-2012, 01:56 PM
Toon
So what outfit should she be wearing?

TilltheEnd
02-16-2012, 01:57 PM
As Mrs. Skywalker wouldn't a more Jedi looking outfit be a better choice? In all honesty the outfit on the cover of Sacrifice isn't much different than the two versions of her that we already have.

Krayt
02-16-2012, 02:01 PM
Mara was never one for Jedi outfits though...
She wore a lot of outfits like the one in the picture or flight suits

ReverendStrone
02-16-2012, 02:19 PM
the new mara should be pretty like the picture the old one was sorta ugly on so many levels.

Yeah, but that picture depicts also a 19 year old woman. Mara was 57 in the book which featured that image on the cover. Does that work for anyone?

padmesghost
02-16-2012, 02:27 PM
oh they are making the older version of her?

Toonimator
02-16-2012, 03:15 PM
Mara was never one for Jedi outfits though...
She wore a lot of outfits like the one in the picture or flight suits
She wore flight suits, jumpsuits, shirts & pants sometimes with coats similar to Bespin Han/Yavin Luke/MOTS Mara (just without the midriff thing), and...

...Jedi robes.

Not exactly PT-style, necessarily; I prefer the idea that Luke's ROTJ outfit, in cut if not color, is the basis for NJO-era Jedi attire (going back to the old '80s idea--supposedly from George himself, and known by Hamill & others on the crew of ROTJ--that Luke's ROTJ outfit is "the uniform of a Jedi Knight"), tho it's up to personal preference what each Jedi wears day-to-day and how their formal robes look; some could wear 'em more PT-style, some Luke-style, many different cuts & colors. Corran Horn's been depicted in art wearing a black & green version of Ki-Adi-Mundi's robes, basically, for instance.

Early in NJO, Mara's described as wearing Jedi robes, I believe.

What she is NEVER, to my knowledge, described as wearing, is that outfit from the above book cover, or HTTE comic, or anything. Sleeveless leather suits? No. In the Thrawn Trilogy books, Mara's defining weapon is her holdout blaster, worn up her SLEEVE on her forearm in a special quick-draw harness. Can't very well hide a blaster up your sleeve if you don't have sleeves. That's the comic's fault, or Decipher's/Lucas Licensing/whoever-made-the-call when costuming Shannon McRandle. Survivor's Quest describes a couple outfits when she & Luke are meeting with the Chiss; one is more functional ala jumpsuit w/ coat type thing, and later she wears a gown to a formal dinner I think.

But not the sleeveless suit. That's been wrong for over 15 years, yet because it's what she wore in all the early licensed visuals of her (aside from artwork on the cover of The Last Command, which was terrible, and whatever may have been in the WEG RPG Sourcebooks for each Thrawn Trilogy book (I only have the HTTE one, and I think she's only depicted as wearing a billowy shirt & tight pants in there; it's been years since I read HTTE, but I recall jumpsuit/flightsuit descriptions for her attire, whenever Zahn mentioned it).

What I'd like to see Mara wearing is maybe a green & brown version of Luke's ROTJ suit. No billowy sleeves, just a vest & sash & belt over a shirt & pants or jumpsuit. I'm not sure if those colors are what was described early in NJO for her, or if they mentioned colors at all... the main problem is that not much official art, if any, depicts her that way, because they're mostly stuck on the sleeveless suit as if that's all she ever wears for decades.

Vorax
02-16-2012, 04:20 PM
The last Mara Jade was real ugly, looked like Sissy Spacek or Ron Howard with a wig.

ReverendStrone
02-16-2012, 04:57 PM
oh they are making the older version of her?

Folks have voted for her in her Jedi outfit, whatever that looks like. Honestly, I'd be just as happy to have a better version of her black leather duds but I appreciate that's not what everyone is asking for or thought they were voting for.

However, with respect to that cover image, my point was that she was 57 in that book, but the cover does not depict that so it's a strange point of reference. Does she look like someone with a teenage son? She looks more like she's 19 herself, at least to me.

As far as the figure goes, I doubt Hasbro will base her appearance on a 57 year old lady in Jedi robes (unless she happens to have anti aging properties akin to Madonna) and to be honest I suspect most fans want her looking young and smoking hot, regardless of their preferred clothing choice, so that's probably the right call on Hasbro's part. I'm just anticipating the fan boy rage when they put her in the black leather again, though few will have any issue with her looking thirty to forty years too young. ;)

Krayt
02-16-2012, 05:16 PM
properties akin to Madonna.. So you mean tonnes of plastic surgery?

JediMerc
02-16-2012, 05:23 PM
The last Mara Jade was real ugly, looked like Sissy Spacek or Ron Howard with a wig.

LMAO!

Perfect: that means that we'll get an older version of Sissy Spacek or Ron Howard with this Mara fig (especially if she's an "older" Jedi)...

JediMerc
02-16-2012, 05:25 PM
Folks have voted for her in her Jedi outfit, whatever that looks like. Honestly, I'd be just as happy to have a better version of her black leather duds...

Or some sort of combat suit, at least. I'm just not into the dull-looking Jedi robes. I want to see warrior-type clothing; Buddhist monk robes? Pass.

GNT
02-16-2012, 05:29 PM
On the other hand, I'm happy yet another EU character won. Hopefully, and regardless of what EU bashers believe, Hasbro gets the message.

EU figures seem to do well in the polls, obviously it's a sign there is demand for them.

ReverendStrone
02-16-2012, 05:59 PM
properties akin to Madonna.. So you mean tonnes of plastic surgery?

Well, I guess she will be made of plastic, so yeah. :D

Deathbymonkeys
02-17-2012, 02:33 AM
Folks have voted for her in her Jedi outfit, whatever that looks like. Honestly, I'd be just as happy to have a better version of her black leather duds but I appreciate that's not what everyone is asking for or thought they were voting for.

However, with respect to that cover image, my point was that she was 57 in that book, but the cover does not depict that so it's a strange point of reference. Does she look like someone with a teenage son? She looks more like she's 19 herself, at least to me.

As far as the figure goes, I doubt Hasbro will base her appearance on a 57 year old lady in Jedi robes (unless she happens to have anti aging properties akin to Madonna) and to be honest I suspect most fans want her looking young and smoking hot, regardless of their preferred clothing choice, so that's probably the right call on Hasbro's part. I'm just anticipating the fan boy rage when they put her in the black leather again, though few will have any issue with her looking thirty to forty years too young. ;)

Problem is both the instances you mentioned don't matter. The isn't Mara Jade Skywalker in those books. They are still before that time. The cover of sacrifice takes place what 10-15 years later than you are mentioning. No one WANTS a figure from the thrawn trilogy. They want the older jedi master wife of luke skywalker figure.

Where she wears sleeveless jumpsuits. Like above.

Choi
02-17-2012, 07:19 AM
EU figures seem to do well in the polls, obviously it's a sign there is demand for them.

I think that's largely because they have the lowest chances of getting made. Most movie charachters will eventually get around to being made, but the only hope for older EU figures and extreme backgrounders need to be brought to Hasbro's attention through polls.

Krayt
02-17-2012, 10:44 AM
I definitely use the polls to bring EU characters to light.. Aside from recently supporting Jocasta because Hasbro said they would never make her, but since she might come next year now, I will switch back to EU characters. Plageius maybe next time around ;)

As for Mara, I don't know what outfit they will but her in this time around. I am just hoping it's a really well made figure that does a lot better job than the previous versions. Plus having Anakin's lightsaber

Masterfett
02-17-2012, 09:26 PM
So I guess we'll be getting Mara's head sculpt on this body...
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC/ComicPacks/15LukeDeena/TLC-1438.jpg

Michael_Knight
02-17-2012, 09:44 PM
^Um, that would be considerably lame and I doubt that would happen. If it did somebody's teeth will surely be kicked inward.

Krayt
02-17-2012, 10:27 PM
Hated that sculpt before, and I still hate it!!!!

JediMerc
02-19-2012, 09:19 AM
Hated that sculpt before, and I still hate it!!!!

I always thought that sculpt was actually a pretty good one; I would, however, have a real problem if Hasbro tried to reuse it for Mara...

Krayt
02-19-2012, 11:38 AM
I just really want to know what Hasbro is using as their reference point for this figure

Notorious_Boba
02-20-2012, 07:51 PM
I just really want to know what Hasbro is using as their reference point for this figureMaybe Darth Talon:)

Krayt
02-27-2012, 10:11 PM
Looking at the slideshow from ToyFair. Pictures of Mara Jade Skywalker are from her time as Emperor's hand. So what is Hasbro using as the basis for Jedi Mara Jade Skywalker?

Billy_Ray
02-28-2012, 12:20 AM
I just really want to know what Hasbro is using as their reference point for this figure

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/6789950118_c1ed0474e6_b.jpg

**EDIT** Posted this before reading your last post

Choi
02-28-2012, 07:15 AM
-Isn't it a bit odd that they used pictures of her as the Emperor's Hand, while claiming the Jedi version won? I hope they fix that.

Krayt
02-28-2012, 12:31 PM
That is what I was wondering about. Could they not find a Jedi version of Mara when she is Mrs. Skywalker? I am really hoping those pictures they showed are the reference since that is not what supposedly won. Besides, we have those version of her already and we wanted a better version to begin with

CaptainJack
02-28-2012, 01:03 PM
That is what I was wondering about. Could they not find a Jedi version of Mara when she is Mrs. Skywalker? I am really hoping those pictures they showed are the reference since that is not what supposedly won. Besides, we have those version of her already and we wanted a better version to begin with
They have no idea. They'll use whichever reference LFL gives them.

ReverendStrone
02-28-2012, 06:16 PM
Right. So unless someone at LFL or Hasbro makes it their mission to get that straight, what we get is probably up for grabs.

Personally, I don't much mind. I'll take whatever, but appreciate there are many for whom this was a big deal and the reason they voted the way they did.

GrandAdmiralJSK
02-28-2012, 09:39 PM
I pm'd Curto and will post it in the Q&A thread in case those return as I definitely want to see the Jedi version.

Krayt
02-28-2012, 10:14 PM
I personally would like to see a Jedi version.. Not sure what they will use as the reference but Jedi robe and not black suit :P

Masterfett
02-28-2012, 11:46 PM
Well if it isn't a Jedi Robe version Ill pass, I already have one of the first version and two of the CP figure.
I have no need of a third figure in the same looking outfit!

Hadrien_Solo
02-29-2012, 11:51 AM
There are a few official references they could use. This one would be really nice:File:Mara8.jpg - Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Mara8.jpg)
I really they base the face on Japanese covers because she looks much more beautiful than Shannon McRandle on them.

Or this one, with correct hair color:
File:Hands.jpg - Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Hands.jpg)

I'm pretty sure this is fan art but that would be great:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2725/4259849763_8015ef2f9e_o.jpg

To be honest, I'm fine with any outfit other than the one they've done.

ouibacca
02-29-2012, 12:09 PM
-Isn't it a bit odd that they used pictures of her as the Emperor's Hand, while claiming the Jedi version won? I hope they fix that.

Nope, giving the fans what they want, in a way they don't want it.

Krayt
02-29-2012, 05:15 PM
I think the fan art picture gives the best example of Jedi Mara Jade Skywalker of the choices shown

Toonimator
02-29-2012, 05:48 PM
The fan art's not too bad... the green-outfit one, tho, isn't so great. It's based on how she looked on the cover of Vision of the Future, and doesn't match anything she wore in it (not that Zahn's big on physical descriptions). Mara's role in it makes that outfit particularly impractical, not to mention she's not even a full Jedi Knight yet by that point, so that wouldn't work as her "Jedi outfit" (the outfit looks okay on the Japanese cover too, but still seems 'wrong' for her role in the book).

As for why Hasbro didn't use any Jedi Mara art for the slideshow, that's because most book covers (aside from Vision of the Future and the Japanese Spectre of the Past cover, and maybe a couple NJOs) show her in the black/blue sleeveless suit, and Adam Hughes hasn't drawn her as a Jedi yet :P

Masterfett
02-29-2012, 09:43 PM
Yeah I'd definitely buy that fan art Jedi version.

Krayt
02-29-2012, 10:51 PM
Ok can we send the fan art to Hasbro with a note saying "This is Jedi Mara Jade Skywalker"

GNT
03-01-2012, 06:41 AM
Personally I don't mind what costume she comes in as long as it's a decent figure. That's all I'm after.

Toonimator
03-01-2012, 02:43 PM
I want a decent figure, too... I just really don't want A.) the black/blue sleeveless suit we've already had twice, or B.) a new head slapped on a repainted Jaina Solo, Jedi Leia, Bultar Swan, or Stass Allie body. Particularly since "B" would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too lazy for a Fan's Choice figure.

I sketched a Mara in an ROTJ-Luke-style outfit last week, but it's pretty rough and not in color... maybe I'll scan & post it soon.

Masterfett
03-02-2012, 12:16 AM
I want a decent figure, too... I just really don't want a new head slapped on a repainted Jaina Solo, Jedi Leia, Bultar Swan, or Stass Allie body. Particularly since "B" would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too lazy for a Fan's Choice figure.
I agree, I can do that on my own!

Krayt
03-02-2012, 11:19 AM
I don't think Hasbro will cheap out on her. Well I am hoping they don't. If they bang out a really good figure this time around for Mara, then I will be content finally and say I don't need another version of her. I am just really looking forward to prototype version to see what they have in mind. If the body does suck though, if they give us a good head then I might end swapping it with Stass Allie and going that way myself for her figure.

Toonimator
03-02-2012, 02:58 PM
Bastila Shan looks really good for a Fan's Choice figure, but Hasbro's cheaped out on 'em before (Revan and Quinlan Vos both come to mind, lacking the fairly-standard-for-the-time knees & ankles, and Revan not even using good reference for the headsculpt)

Krayt
03-02-2012, 05:09 PM
Fair enough Toon, I will agree with you on that. I just think the way the line has good, Hasbro has really put a great effort into some figures since the Revan and Vos figures. So I would hope that Hasbro takes the time and does a good job for her. They could have a lapse in judgement but I would think since she won the fan poll that Hasbro would take the time to do her well. That is what I am hoping anyways...

JVM
03-02-2012, 05:14 PM
When I was younger I passed over the Mara Jade EU figures and the Heir to the Empire comic set was a secondary priority at the time - but since I've read the book I have wanted a Mara Jade like crazy, so it's nice to see we'll be getting a new one.

Hopefully they'll do her Jedi outfit because that's what everyone seems to want, but if they half-*** it, I'll buy it anyway, because I need a Mara.

urbnns69
03-02-2012, 10:10 PM
The only Mara that I have is the original POTF2 version. They haven't made an SA version yet, so there's been no need to "upgrade." If this one is SA with all 14 points, then I'm definitely in. This is, after all, Luke's wife.

"C'mon Hasbro ol' buddy, don't let me down!"

Krayt
03-03-2012, 12:42 PM
Has to be 14 points of SA otherwise it's a no go?
Surprising, I would just be happy with an upgraded sculpt since I haven't been overly happy with any of those of her yet

TimArt
03-07-2012, 12:49 PM
I have just put these together, mostly for my own amusement and possibly because I'm a very strange person.

These are the best references Hasbro have of a Jedi-Mara (assuming they are not just planning on making something up):

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/timart88/MaraTan-outfit.jpg
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/timart88/MaraJedi-outfits.jpg

& these are how I'd do it:
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/timart88/MaraJediFigureOptionsSmallcopy.jpg

Michael_Knight
03-07-2012, 01:58 PM
I wonder what the far right Nagano version is doing with that right hand?

drod26
03-07-2012, 07:11 PM
I like the compromise Mara out of all of them. I have never been a fan of the elf look... thanks for putting these together TimArt, they are great reference material..

Michael_Knight
03-07-2012, 07:37 PM
^ I agree. I think that version of her looks good myself.

ReverendStrone
03-07-2012, 07:37 PM
Nice work Tim. You have a great design sense and illustration style too. :)

Krayt
03-07-2012, 08:09 PM
Actually I think I like Jedi Mara better than Compromise Mara. To me, compromise Mara reminds me too much of Mara from the comic pack Mara that came with Karrde.

Jerjerrod
03-07-2012, 08:47 PM
If we get the compromise Mara, Hasbro can also give us alternate boots and sleeveless arms so we get 2 figures in 1! They can include the scarf and goggles as a separate piece to go with the sleeved arms.

Its still beyond me how a boring guy like Luke got a hot girl like Mara Jade. Lol

Masterfett
03-07-2012, 10:30 PM
I think we should get pregnant Mara!:grin:

I actually prefer the center outfit more, if the new figure shares any elements with the previous one then I have no need to buy it.