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DarthRavenger
11-30-2010, 08:33 PM
Im looking for 2 signed Kershner index cards and the official pix sunburst tesb shot with him and a color
behind the scene shot as well.

epsilonjedi
11-30-2010, 11:46 PM
I have a feeling everyone's going to be hoarding Kersh items for awhile...

JonPeck
11-30-2010, 11:57 PM
I have a feeling everyone's going to be hoarding Kersh items for awhile...


Yup. As soon as he died, Cool Waters pulled every photo off their site.

Cperry06
12-01-2010, 05:17 PM
I was just going to post the same thing. I went to the Coolwaters site on Friday for their "Black Friday" sale and they had a TON of Kershner items for sale. I went back on Tuesday and everything was pulled that had anything to do with Kersh. Interesting . . .






I have a feeling everyone's going to be hoarding Kersh items for awhile...


Yup. As soon as he died, Cool Waters pulled every photo off their site.

theotherbruce
12-01-2010, 05:39 PM
i was on the coolwaters site early on monday morning and everything was pulled...all i wanted was to get an 8x10 of the 11x14 i was sending in for the signing, but no luck...

hopefully everything was pulled out of respect for the man and we'll see those items again at some point without a huge pricetag bump...

fanboy
12-02-2010, 12:08 PM
i definitely hope they put everything back up eventually. i also tried to order one of the signed lithos monday morning.

kaidoy021
12-21-2010, 05:09 PM
anyone know if Coolwaters is going to put back up their Kershner autograph pics? They have a bunch of him before he passed away.

Joshua_B
12-21-2010, 05:22 PM
sure they will put them back up, but they have to add way higher prices first. at least until they realize that he is still only worth $50. funny to see people charging $400 for them on ebay, just laughable.

kaidoy021
12-21-2010, 08:06 PM
Yea, these sellers are just trying to drive up the prices. But I'll totally understand when Coolwaters adjust accordingly. thanks

_Lee_
12-22-2010, 03:23 PM
I personally think its disgusting that people are hiking prices up upon Irvins passing.There were even a few on here that had prices raised almost the same day and some even offered Kershners for sale in the same week too-that to me is sick,and proves that some people will use sad events like this to make that extra buck.They just see it as a way of making an extra profit on something that was much cheaper the day before.

Shame on anyone who does that.I mean both on Ebay and on here. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

And personally,i would like to see Coolwaters do something special with the pics they have-such as a memorial presentation with plaque etc,now that would be unique and a privilage to own-without having to justify a highly inflated price.I would assume CW would also make sure that Irvins family could be helped out financially with the sale of these too.

theotherbruce
12-23-2010, 02:49 PM
the only good thing regarding the ebay jacked up prices is that most of the pieces don't seem to be selling...

as long as nobody foolishly supports those prices we'll see them drop again...

kaidoy021
12-25-2010, 02:55 AM
Coolwaters put back in stock a 8x10 Autograph with vader and IG-88 if anyone is interested. I picked one up for my collection.

jedibill
12-25-2010, 03:26 AM
I agree with Bendu, unfortunately this can be a morbid hobby. There is a familiar seller on ebay right now that wants outrageous prices for a Kersh graph.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/thumbs/102_3649.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/imagepopup.php?imagename=http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/102_3649.JPG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/thumbs/102_3652.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/imagepopup.php?imagename=http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/102_3652.JPG)

These are two of my favorite pieces and always will be.

jedimasterc
12-25-2010, 10:42 AM
I met him back in 2007 in Knoxville.Very nice guy.I got an 8X10 post card I ordered from a poster website.I did get is sig authenitcated and the sig was personalize to me.I have no plans to sell mine at all in respect of Kershner.I agree that there are some people who will capitalize on someones death.

zoid2323
12-25-2010, 12:17 PM
Coolwaters has a lot of those signed pics up on ebay now between $350 - $500. Hope the Kershners get a cut of the profit.

kaidoy021
12-25-2010, 12:44 PM
Coolwaters has a lot of those signed pics up on ebay now between $350 - $500. Hope the Kershners get a cut of the profit.



are you sure its Coolwaters and not individuals selling them?

DarthPotts1975
12-25-2010, 01:04 PM
Coolwaters has a lot of those signed pics up on ebay now between $350 - $500. Hope the Kershners get a cut of the profit.



are you sure its Coolwaters and not individuals selling them?



Most of the ridiculously priced auctions ($450-$500) are from K9graphs

Good deal!.......Better get them while you can!

zoid2323
12-25-2010, 01:27 PM
You guys may be right looks like they are from other sellers that bought from Coolwaters. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Holla300
12-25-2010, 10:25 PM
Coolwaters has a lot of those signed pics up on ebay now between $350 - $500. Hope the Kershners get a cut of the profit.



are you sure its Coolwaters and not individuals selling them?



Most of the ridiculously priced auctions ($450-$500) are from K9graphs

Good deal!.......Better get them while you can!

Least they are real.

theotherbruce
12-25-2010, 11:24 PM
looking forward to picking something up from coolwaters as they release more shots...$100 is not even remotely a bad markup for something that was $53 dollars before his passing, especially if a portion goes to charity or his family...

_Lee_
12-26-2010, 06:28 AM
I agree with Bendu, unfortunately this can be a morbid hobby. There is a familiar seller on ebay right now that wants outrageous prices for a Kersh graph.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/thumbs/102_3649.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/imagepopup.php?imagename=http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/102_3649.JPG) http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/thumbs/102_3652.JPG (http://forum.rebelscum.com/imagepopup.php?imagename=http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/102_3652.JPG)

These are two of my favorite pieces and always will be.



Just out of interest-where did Pete comment on this thread? Morbib eh? But its really sick a few hours after the guy passes away.Thats disgusting.

FWIW,regarding these autographs-this is one of the sick things that makes me want to get out of this hobby.Ive been slowly backing off anyway,but this just takes the [censored].K9 is just capitalizing on someones death,quite sick really-shows another side of the guy to me.Money hungry profiteering http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Bendu
12-26-2010, 06:51 AM
Everyone has something to say about everyone else's prices. I might point out that the majority of stuff that K9 has listed on ebay right now, has all been up since before Kersh passed, and the prices have not changed much.
It's all about supply and demand, he has items that people want and that he is willing to sell, but he isn't going to let them go unless he is happy with the price.

I won't knock the prices, I have items that I am willing to sell at the right price, but otherwise ....I am quite fine holding on to these items. K9 is the exact same way.

I don't see the rush of 11x14 Kersh pieces in the market, and rest assured if anyone does have some .....they can price them at whatever they like, the customers have the final say.

As for the morbid comment, yes it was indeed something I have said in the past both in threads here and PM. The passing of any celebrity will indeed cause our hobby to scramble. This thread wouldn't exist if people took advantage of buying Kersh items thru Coolwaters months ago, or got Kersh at any of the shows he attended.
For some people, they only realize they want a specific celeb after it is too late.

_Lee_
12-26-2010, 07:02 AM
Pete,

Im not having a pop at you bud,and as we are all entitled to our opinions thats fair enough.I understand price hikes etc,but not straight after the guy passed away.Everyone always talks away about how he made 'THE' best SW film ever(which is my personal opinion too)and then the next they are showing zero respect by making money on his passing.

Honestly buddy,it just doesnt sit right with me.I received a PM from someone here about my comment the other day,and the PM title was'LOL'-says a lot really.Then he went on about how he paid this,he has two blah blah blah and TBH i didnt even reply,because i dont want to associate with people like that.Its just funny that people always have doubles etc etc,when something happens.

I dont know.maybe i just think differently to some people.

Master_M_M
12-26-2010, 08:17 AM
Coolwaters put back in stock a 8x10 Autograph with vader and IG-88 if anyone is interested. I picked one up for my collection.



For me,US$99 for a signed trading is too pricey http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Bendu
12-26-2010, 10:09 AM
Lee,
Your opinion is quite valid, and believe me....no offense was taken at all. The only point I was making is that K9 had these images up before Kersh passed, and they were all priced right in this range.
We here on the boards, and "in the know" could have easily taken advantage of all the Coolwaters signings etc. Plenty of people out there in this hobby don't follow the happenings that we know about. Kersh's graph jumped in value the moment he canceled SDCC last summer and I believe that was when the K9 stuff hit ebay.

I have seen it happen time and again, going back to 2000 when Alec passed, one ebay seller had 30 pieces list the day he died, each and every piece was signed for free TTM, yet he sold out within a day at $250 a pop, because Alec's passing was in the news.

Even if K9 listed these items the day Kersh passed, considering the $50+ for the signing, another $15-20 for the photo and shipping, and knowing that 11x14 items were very limited ....I just don't see $300 - $400 as any different than reality based pricing, especially with trading cards and 8x10 seeing $100-$200 price tags.

I had extra Heath Ledger items when he passed and I offered them for sale right here on the boards.....is it morbid? Maybe...somewhat, but striking when the iron is hot and the person is in the news .....isn't very different than selling Sandra Bullock graphs after her marriage fell apart and she won the Oscar.

Good news or bad news, people tend to search for celeb items that they want when a celeb is getting coverage in the press....for whatever reason.

Coolwaters may have 100's of 11x14 items that will hit the market soon enough ....if that happens Kersh's signed material will level out and settle at a price.....the unfortunate part is we don't know any of this for sure.

Our hobby is part of a big business, no way around that. If I were to sell a Kersh graph I can tell you, I certainly wouldn't be letting it go cheap..... I respect the man and all he gave to the SW community, far too much to give the graph away.

It's all a matter of where your opinion sits, people invest in autographs to resell, some collectors buy graphs because they love them....others do both. It's just making the stuff available fo people who might want it....it's up to the buyer to make the final call if he is willing to pay the heavy price of missing out earlier.

Happy Holidays everyone.

coachk28
12-26-2010, 10:40 AM
Hope you guys don't mind me chiming in on the topic with a similar story....


In regards to the pricing of the Kershner items... everyone has valid points on both sides.

Here in the Chicago area, we are seeing something similar happen with memorabilia from 2 Chicago Cub icons that passed away within the past month.... Ron Santo and Phil Cavaretta.


The prices on signed items from these guys has doubled and tripled!!!


I don't agree with it either.... but whether you like it or not, it's just basic economics.... supply and demand.

The supply of autographed items from these guys is no longer infinite, so of course the price is going to go up.

coachk28
12-26-2010, 10:41 AM
I'm sure Zoid can back me up on this one!

zoid2323
12-26-2010, 11:06 AM
Yep, I agree 100% James. I have signed Harry Caray and Ron Santo baseballs that I could sell for big $$ but being a Cubbie fan wont. http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Bendu
12-26-2010, 11:15 AM
It's certainly not just a local thing, as anyone with a touch of celebrity passes ....material signed by them is going to go up in value. If you happen to have items signed by that celeb, you can ask what you want for it. Buyers who feel that they must have it immediately will be the people paying heavily for it. As the news of the passing fades so will the interest of the common collector, but as Coach mentioned supply and demand will balance out over time, and we will then see where the values settle.

Kersh was great to his fans TTM, and later at conventions and private signings. If you just want something signed by him, it won't be an issue finding that material...it's the specialized items that will hold a higher premium.

Mickey Mantle's passing left behind literal tons of signed baseballs and 8x10 photos, but if you want a bat, Jersey, 11x14 or 16x20......you will pay far more for them.

Guinness signed for decades and you will easily find an index card or an 8x10 ......what do you think you will pay for a 11x14, 16x20 or a poster?

Cushing signed everything sent to him for his fans, and you will be able to snag just about anything you want for a couple hundred dollars, but when you want an uninscribed Star Wars 8x10 you will be paying 10-15 times as much.

I guess I am agreeing with the opinion that selling items signed by deceased celebrities can bother some....but at the same time, if you have items of a limited nature autographed by those deceased celebs...it is a business, and the prices will be what the prices will be.... no sense in complaining about it.

zhamlau
12-26-2010, 12:08 PM
Its just the way of things, it always has been and always will be. Artists , the joke goes, finally have their dreams fulfilled after they pass away and people can start collecting their work. It holds true for autographs. I have no issue with someone charging more for an autograph they acquired after someone passed away. If your buying/selling items, when they become more finite and limited , the prices are just going to go up, thats all there is to it. There is no "right" or "wrong" in my opinion on this issue.

ClintonMills
12-26-2010, 12:26 PM
I have to agree here that it is a shame that prices are being hiked at his death but that is just the way it is. If you watch ebay it happens at the death of every celeb. Mr. Kershner was a pretty common signer so I think the prices will come down with time but in the meantime people are trying to make a quick buck. While most of us may not agree with this, it is just the workings of supply and demand.

jedibill
12-26-2010, 02:43 PM
Hey guys I didn't mean a thing about the morbid comment. It is an unfortunate truth in our hobby. All I was saying is something everyone on here already knows. The second an actor dies, Star Wars or not, sellers jack up the prices on autographs. Captain Phil Harris of the Deadliest Catch is a prime example. Before he passed you could buy his graph all day long for $15-$20, as soon as he was gone you couldn't touch one for less than $60-$70. It is the nature of the beast in a capitalist economy.

Oh and I meant to say Lee, not Bendu, in the previous post, sorry Pete!

Bendu
12-26-2010, 04:10 PM
No worries bud, I have said it many times in the past and it is an unfortunate fact.

inferior10
12-29-2010, 05:44 PM
Coolwaters put back in stock a 8x10 Autograph with vader and IG-88 if anyone is interested. I picked one up for my collection.



Just picked up one of these myself.

kaidoy021
12-30-2010, 12:20 PM
If anyone is interested, they added a more Kershner items at CW. A portion of the sale goes to charities.

theotherbruce
01-02-2011, 11:13 PM
round 3 of more kersh items up at cw with the carrie/kersh photo added...the prices on the 8x10's are now $130...

hopefully the extra 30 bucks added to the 8x10 prices since the first round is all for the charities...

Joshua_B
01-02-2011, 11:52 PM
hopefully the extra 30 bucks added to the 8x10 prices since the first round is all for the charities...



heh, thats funny. I bet $10 or so is going to charity.

theotherbruce
01-03-2011, 12:03 AM
you think they'd jack the prices up again for any other reason besides charity? http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif