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  1. 06-02-2012, 06:21 AM #211
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbowars View Post
    That it was released so much earlier there, but I know that's how it works these days.
    I have no idea why it came out sooner here. Sometimes films have the same release date as in the US, and sometimes they come out much later. Before it got pushed back to 2013, GI Joe Retaliation for example was supposed to come out in mid-August here while the US release date was planned for June 29.

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterfett View Post
    How exactly can it do that.
    Plus I didn't think the first one was that bad really, could have been better yeah but the second one was dreadfully awful.
    Because... (huge spoiler alert)

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    ... the xenomorphs as we know them apparently don't yet exist in 2093 (when the movie takes place). Xenomorphs are the result of biological experiments carried out by the Engineers (formerly known as Space Jockeys) to get rid of their former creation: the human race.
    It's therefore impossible to have predators fighting aliens in 2004, especially when the first AvP film states that they have been fighting each other for centuries. Unless new elements concerning this storyline are revealed in the sequel, I guess the AvP films should now be considered as non-canonical.


    The first AvP film was an ok action film, I guess... but I'm still having a hard time accepting it's part of the Alien universe.

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    I legitimately have no idea why AvP is being mentioned and why it matters in the Prometheus universe. To an extent it doesn't even have anything to do with Alien. This is Scott wanting to dive deeper into the creature that introduced the xenomorph.
    And to an extent it does have a lot to do with Alien. The Prometheus universe and the Alien universe are one and the same thing. I'm just glad the AvP films apparently aren't part of that universe.
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  2. 06-02-2012, 07:08 AM #212
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterfett View Post
    How exactly can it do that.
    Plus I didn't think the first one was that bad really, could have been better yeah but the second one was dreadfully awful.
    Pretty easily. Those movies are no more canon than the "Superman Vs. Alien" comics. In the canon, there were never xenos on Earth and the predators don't exist.


    EDIT: Okay...so I just found out the movie is not at all directly leading to Alien. I don't get that. What's the point of having the SHIP from Alien, the same company, similar plot elements, the space jockey, etc if it's not? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'll love the hell out of the movie anyway, but that's VERY disappointing.
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  3. 06-03-2012, 05:35 PM #213
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    I'd be more readily to except that Alien 4 isn't canon, or that it was totally removed from film history.
    And to some extent Alien 3.

    Quote Originally Posted by DagMarus View Post
    In the canon, there were never xenos on Earth and the predators don't exist.
    Who says, who exactly dictated there was canon for these movies anyways?
    And what's wrong with any of those events happening"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DagMarus View Post
    EDIT: Okay...so I just found out the movie is not at all directly leading to Alien. I don't get that. What's the point of having the SHIP from Alien, the same company, similar plot elements, the space jockey, etc if it's not? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'll love the hell out of the movie anyway, but that's VERY disappointing.
    The sequels (if they make more) should lead into the Aliens franchise but for now it's about setting it all up and expanding the "Alien" universe which is extremely neat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterfett View Post
    Who says, who exactly dictated there was canon for these movies anyways?
    And what's wrong with any of those events happening"
    ...The guy who started it? Ridley Scott not taking AVP into account is why. What's wrong is that it's incredibly stupid. The Aliens were actually somewhat on earth for centuries? Lame.
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    He's right, and the Mayans/Incas/Aztecs worshipped the Predator? Lame.
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    Decided to read the spoilers...the very last scene is cool.
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    Me too, but the details themselves are still vague and I CAN'T FRICKING WAIT!
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    I'm actually going to go to the midnight release, my very first one!
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  10. 06-06-2012, 05:33 PM #220
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    Just got back from seeing it.

    Don't want to spoil it. In two minds about it.

    The good: Visually stunning, Fassbender is amazing, great art direction and some other good performances from lesser characters.

    The bad: Plotholes galore, bad acting from other main characters, too many story threads, bad script.



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