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    Ideas for Hasbro that could please both Collectors and Kids

    OK, so this is my list of ideas for Hasbro. Anyone want to add to it, feel free. This is NOT meant to be a forum for posting every figure that has ever appeared in any media and stating how much you want it. I want Jaxxon too... but he ain't happening unless a Brian's Toys or EE or convention exclusive can get done.

    Idea 1:

    SIMPLIFY!!!

    1 big vehicle per year - or per medium. Put it in the $200 range and take a lower profit from it with the idea that people will buy figures to go with it. That used to be the general idea with vehicles. I don't need a crappy looking pilot figure, but put a decent one on a card and I'll buy that too. Hide some play features in there, make sure it makes sense, and make sure the outside looks good.
    **Millenium Falcon - Tantive - Ghost - U-Wing - Shuttle (several varieties) - Gunship - AT-AT - Turbo Tank - Slave I - etc.


    2-4 decent size vehicles/environment pieces per year. I don't know if you have molds to reuse or not, but whatever you have to do to get a couple in the $50 range would be great. There is a TON of vehicles past and un-made that could go in this line. And again.... don't give me a crappy pilot. Put one on a card!!! {base is my way of saying any piece of environment with which to display/play with my figures}
    ** X-Wing - TIE Fighter - TIE Interceptor - TIE Defender - Snowspeeder - AT-ST - Hovertank - Landspeeder w/Moisture Vaporators - Hoth base - Yavin base - Takodana base - Starkiller base - Death Star base - Scariff base - Endor base - etc.

    Line of Ultra figures. Looking at the $25 range. The big figures or figures with big accessories. These are also too numerous to name, but think Wampa and ice cave or Rieekan and Tactical Screen. I'd say any of these with wanted accessories should come with a figure that might not get made otherwise.
    ** Grumgar and chair - Mon Mothma and Holotable - Fozec and Jabba's BBQ pit - HURID-327 - Roodown - Baba Jo - Lava Flea - etc.

    More ideas to come:::::::::::::::::::::
    "The Marvel and Transformers team must share a lunch table.
    Star Wars must have sat with GI Joe team." ~ indysolo007


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    Quote Originally Posted by keknivek View Post
    OK, so this is my list of ideas for Hasbro. Anyone want to add to it, feel free. This is NOT meant to be a forum for posting every figure that has ever appeared in any media and stating how much you want it. I want Jaxxon too... but he ain't happening unless a Brian's Toys or EE or convention exclusive can get done.

    Idea 1:

    SIMPLIFY!!!

    1 big vehicle per year - or per medium. Put it in the $200 range and take a lower profit from it with the idea that people will buy figures to go with it. That used to be the general idea with vehicles. I don't need a crappy looking pilot figure, but put a decent one on a card and I'll buy that too. Hide some play features in there, make sure it makes sense, and make sure the outside looks good.
    **Millenium Falcon - Tantive - Ghost - U-Wing - Shuttle (several varieties) - Gunship - AT-AT - Turbo Tank - Slave I - etc.


    2-4 decent size vehicles/environment pieces per year. I don't know if you have molds to reuse or not, but whatever you have to do to get a couple in the $50 range would be great. There is a TON of vehicles past and un-made that could go in this line. And again.... don't give me a crappy pilot. Put one on a card!!! {base is my way of saying any piece of environment with which to display/play with my figures}
    ** X-Wing - TIE Fighter - TIE Interceptor - TIE Defender - Snowspeeder - AT-ST - Hovertank - Landspeeder w/Moisture Vaporators - Hoth base - Yavin base - Takodana base - Starkiller base - Death Star base - Scariff base - Endor base - etc.

    Line of Ultra figures. Looking at the $25 range. The big figures or figures with big accessories. These are also too numerous to name, but think Wampa and ice cave or Rieekan and Tactical Screen. I'd say any of these with wanted accessories should come with a figure that might not get made otherwise.
    ** Grumgar and chair - Mon Mothma and Holotable - Fozec and Jabba's BBQ pit - HURID-327 - Roodown - Baba Jo - Lava Flea - etc.

    More ideas to come:::::::::::::::::::::
    I like your thought process on this but the Ultra figures price might be a tad too high and doom the line from the start. $25 for 1 action figure and an accessory is too much. I'd go with $17.00 for those at the most. Parents are not going to drop $25 for Mon Mothma and a holo display... collectors might but that figure needs to be spot on amazing for the price range with super articulation and spot on likeness to the actor or actress.

    I like the idea of the $50 ships and environments as well and would love to see a return to the old model ships like the TIE Fighter, X-Wing, Y-Wing etc. I mean as cool as the large wing TIE is (and yes I have 4 of them myself) it's too big for display and I've seen kids struggle with holding it and another ship like an x-wing for play. I love the scale of the original Kenner molds.. you could have dogfights with the ships. you can't do this with the new FX Scale X-Wing and Large Wing TIE.

    I'd also love to see a nice detailed playset/environment system be developed by Hasbro... they don't have to be big and they can be something simple like hallways of Starships or bases. I think these would perform well but I think they need to be an army building concept with figures. for instance a Tantive IV hallway playset which included 2 Stormtroopers and 2 Rebel Fleet Troopers would be great but no main characters that are only available in the set. these figures could be repaints/kitbashed figures.

    I'd also love to see a return of the Battlepack concept (3-5 figures depending) and the Evolutions series (so many great choices that can be done there... Stormtrooper Evolution (OT-ST) )

    as far as the big vehicles (200+) range.... they have been hit or miss in the last few years.. the BMF was a great toy (I have 2 myself) but it takes up too much room, the BAT-AT was an amazing update to the Kenner Mold, The Republic Shuttle was cool but again was put on clearance way to soon ( I think I picked one up for $25), The trench run 2 pack (cool concept but nothing to really get excited over), The RO AT-ACT (I have one and love it) is a great concept but the price is insane (luckily I bought mine for $150 shipped) I'd rather Hasbro concentrate on the playsets, $50 price range ships and environments, the ultra figures and make those lines work first before trying to bring back large ships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkArtist View Post
    I like your thought process on this but the Ultra figures price might be a tad too high and doom the line from the start. $25 for 1 action figure and an accessory is too much. I'd go with $17.00 for those at the most. Parents are not going to drop $25 for Mon Mothma and a holo display... collectors might but that figure needs to be spot on amazing for the price range with super articulation and spot on likeness to the actor or actress.

    I like the idea of the $50 ships and environments as well and would love to see a return to the old model ships like the TIE Fighter, X-Wing, Y-Wing etc. I mean as cool as the large wing TIE is (and yes I have 4 of them myself) it's too big for display and I've seen kids struggle with holding it and another ship like an x-wing for play. I love the scale of the original Kenner molds.. you could have dogfights with the ships. you can't do this with the new FX Scale X-Wing and Large Wing TIE.

    I'd also love to see a nice detailed playset/environment system be developed by Hasbro... they don't have to be big and they can be something simple like hallways of Starships or bases. I think these would perform well but I think they need to be an army building concept with figures. for instance a Tantive IV hallway playset which included 2 Stormtroopers and 2 Rebel Fleet Troopers would be great but no main characters that are only available in the set. these figures could be repaints/kitbashed figures.

    I'd also love to see a return of the Battlepack concept (3-5 figures depending) and the Evolutions series (so many great choices that can be done there... Stormtrooper Evolution (OT-ST) )

    as far as the big vehicles (200+) range.... they have been hit or miss in the last few years.. the BMF was a great toy (I have 2 myself) but it takes up too much room, the BAT-AT was an amazing update to the Kenner Mold, The Republic Shuttle was cool but again was put on clearance way to soon ( I think I picked one up for $25), The trench run 2 pack (cool concept but nothing to really get excited over), The RO AT-ACT (I have one and love it) is a great concept but the price is insane (luckily I bought mine for $150 shipped) I'd rather Hasbro concentrate on the playsets, $50 price range ships and environments, the ultra figures and make those lines work first before trying to bring back large ships.

    I agree with pretty much all of this.

    I put $25 as a max range, but that is probably too high. I know I would be very hesitant to pay that for Mon Mothma and a holotable. I think using the same box for an Ultra Line where the prices range from $17 to $20 could work. I'd believe I'd pay the $20 for for Grummgar or some of the other large figures if they were done right with articulation, etc.

    I didn't like the $50 pricepoint a lot for average size ships or bases either, but gave it a general $50 max. I'd love to have some sort of BUILD-A-SCENE happen. I've promoted that idea several times in different forums, but it never seems to catch a lot of interest. The Battlepack was a big favorite of mine. I loved getting multiple figures from one particular scene together.

    When I started this thread the idea was to get some creative minds spitballing. It's so disappointing what has come out lately.
    "The Marvel and Transformers team must share a lunch table.
    Star Wars must have sat with GI Joe team." ~ indysolo007


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    Idea 2:

    KITBASH!!!!!


    1) We've heard before that Star Wars is more difficult than what Marvel does because of how they can reuse parts more easily.
    OK... so reuse parts where you can. You can cut the cost of a figure by changing up the paint or just creating new parts. Heads would be the best place to start as there are tons of figures that could be created with new heads. This has been done many times in the past for everything from backgrounders (Pax Bonkik), to Clones, etc.

    A) Figures that could be created with nothing but new paint.
    * Lars Homestead GNK droid
    * Death Squad Commander (gray)
    * Spirit Yoda - similar to the Ben and Anakin ones with translucent plastic and some color

    Figures that could be done with simple kitbash (possibly some retooling to fit heads
    * Banniss Keeg - Ellors Madak head and jedi body
    * Lirin Carn - Bith head and jedi body
    * Salporin - Likely just needs new accessories

    C) Figures that could be done with new heads.
    * Lt. Sheckil - new head on Imperial body
    * Lt. Daine Jir - new head on Imperial body
    * Pello Scramblas - new head on Tantive Rebel body
    * Theron Nett - new head on Pilot body
    * Nic Sant - new head on kitbashed Endor Rebel body
    * Sar Labooda - new head on female jedi body
    * Geezum - Takeel head on kitbashed body (possible new accessories)
    * Herat - juat add a fan and include any droid repainted

    I realize some of these wouldn't be well recognized, so single carded might be a stretch, but like the Battle of Geonosis: Jedi Knights packs, could easily be done in a multipack. I could easily see a couple of the following multipacks.

    Cantina pack 1:
    Banniss Keeg, Lirin Carn, Sai'tor Kal Fas, Takeel --- all either rereleased, repainted or slightly kitbashed

    Rebel pack 1:
    Nic Sant, Pello Scramblas, Theron Nett, Hoth Rebel (new head OR reuse one and repaint) --- all either repainted or kitbashed with new heads

    Imperial pack 1:
    Lt. Daine Jir, Lt. Sheckil, Death Squad Commander, Admiral Piett --- a few of the many Imperials that could be done with a littel paint and some new heads.
    "The Marvel and Transformers team must share a lunch table.
    Star Wars must have sat with GI Joe team." ~ indysolo007


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